Ginger The Pit Bull Back On Death Row

Ginger-On Death Row Because Of Breed Specific Legislation

Ginger, a pit bull, is now back on death row.
Ginger, a pit bull, is now back on death row. | Source
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Ginger and her attorney Clayton Ruby
Ginger and her attorney Clayton Ruby

Ginger Back On Death Row

This is a very sad week in the lives of those who fight for the right for pit bulls to live. The highest court in Ontario, Canada has reinstated the execution order of Ginger the pit bull, who has made the news since 2005 when she bit another dog and it's owner.

During a walk in the park, Buddy, a 12 year old shepherd-collie, and his owner Jody MacDonald, were bitten by Ginger and an order was issued by the justice of the peace in 2007 to put Ginger down. This occurred during a walk in which Ginger, an unknown mix, was on leash and muzzled because of the BSL laws(see Whitney05 link below for info on BSL). Ginger's owner's mother and the dog encountered Buddy, an unleashed dog, and an altercation occurred. Buddy tore the muzzle off of Ginger and inflicted permanent damage under one eye.

Buddy's owner got into the fight toward the end and was bitten but didn't require hospital attention.

The muzzle was taken in as evidence and "lost" before the court date.

Then the city of Toronto was granted an application under the Dog Owners' Liability Act in 2007. Luckily her owner, Philip Huggins, won an appeal when Ontario Court Justice Mary Hogan decided the Breed Specific Legislation (BSL), primarily the Dog Owner's Liability Act, was ambiguously worded.

The city seized and impounded Ginger for 3 1/2 years, only releasing her to Phillip Huggins last year. The fact that his dog was illegally held for almost 4 years is a subject the city doesn't feel the need to address.

Now Ginger is back on death row.

Clayton Ruby, attorney for Ginger and her owner, stated during an interview on Thursday that no further challenges will be made against the case. He does not believe in the way pit bulls are handled legally in Canada.

Can someone please explain to me why a law can allow this? Ginger didn't do anything wrong. She would have had her muzzle on if not for Buddy. Buddy was NOT on the leash and attacked her. And the muzzle conveniently disappeared. NONE of this should be blamed on this poor dog.

Here's a good hub page link by Whitney05. This article states how BSL works and the harm it is doing the pit bull breeds. What is Breed Specific Legislation? Will it Stop all Pit Bull Dog Attacks?

The Canadian BSL is really backwards in how the law works. Any pit bull breed who bites is automatically placed under a euthanasia order. It doesn't matter whether the dog was playing, or defending it's owner. Once a bite has occurred, the dog is scheduled for execution.

What if a dog is defending an owner? I hope the general public can understand why I defend these dogs. This whole case, along with the BSL law, is insanity in it's highest form.

The method of determining what is a pit bull and what isn't is also totally ridiculous. It's up to the owner to prove their dog involved ISN'T a pit, not the other way around. Think about it readers. It's virtually impossible to prove a mutt doesn't have pit in it. The owner is required to prove what the dogs' mother, father, grandmother and grandfather are.

So any dog the government decides doesn't have the right to live anymore will fall under the pit category unless the owner can show proof otherwise.

I'd really love to know why pit bulls have such a bad reputation when the temperament of the dog is determined by the owner and methods the dog is trained. We've all heard it before. There are no bad dogs-just bad owners. The trouble is we don't seem to be doing enough about the bad owners.

In the near future I'm going to write a hub page about an attack on me by a golden retriever, whom I'd owner for six years when he turned on me and cost me the feeling in my right arm. ANY dog can be mean. Pit bulls have gotten a bad rap from all of the dog fighting rings in which they are the dog of choice.

We all need to do anything we can to help these dogs. Any dog who bites should be evaluated on a case by case basis, regardless of breed. We need to overthrow these laws on BSL and put the blame where it belongs-BAD OWNERS!

I won't go into a long lesson on how many dogs have been affected by these laws. I'm not sure I want to know. This is just one more way the government is telling us what kind of pet we may choose to have.

One thing I'd like to mention before closing is the BSL laws in Ontario are affecting Dog Whisper Ceasar Millan and his pet pit bull Junior. Because it's illegal to bring a pit bull into the province, Millan must tether his pit bull at home while he is on an 11 city tour of Canada.

Canada, and other countries involved in BSL, you are not only embarrassing yourselves with acts like this, you're not doing anything to tackle the problem. You only think you are.

If Canada would do it's homework, they'd find BSL legislation has NOT worked in countries where it's enforced.

I'd like to hear from readers living under these moronic laws. Also from pit bull owners about any issue you feel the readers hear should know about. I always encourage comments and post 99% of them as I believe in the freedom of speech.

Elisa

Elisa Black-Taylor is a regular contributor to www.pictures-of-cats.org

UPDATE AT GINGER THE PIT BULL MAY BE SAVED BY CALGARY

My related Hubpages hubs

Changing The Image Of The Pit Bull Breeds

Rehabilitating Dogs After Abuse

Corrupt Government and Animal Abuse (I'm not sure how this hubpage is related but feel sure the government will stick it's nose in there somewhere so I listed it as a reference)

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/ontario/ontario-bans-dog-whisperers-pet-pooch/article1784108/
http://brindlestick.blogspot.com/
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/885767--ginger-back-on-death-row
http://www.globaltoronto.com/Ginger+bull+must+Appeal+Court+says+clear+unambiguous+breed/3783178/story.html

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Comments 89 comments

Liz 6 years ago

Thanks for this informative article. We need to make the public aware of the injustice and lack of personal rights bestowed to Ontario's citizens. All those in Ontario can go to www.stopk9profiling.com to send a letter to their MPPs that the slaughter of gentle family dogs based on looks alone is not acceptable at any time. It's clear that its not just humans that need to worry about ignorance, bigotry and prejudice.


Celeste 6 years ago

It's because of a--holes in the media that make pitbulls appear more vicious than they really are.


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Elisa Taylor 6 years ago Author

It's just inconceivable that a dog can be called a pit just because the government says it's a pit. To me personally Ginger doesn't look like the pits I know, but it doesn't matter whether she is or not. The government always seems to get what they want.

And the thought of typecasting a dog is just stupid. Just wait until I find the photo of my arm after a golden retriever almost tore it off and write that story. I was terrified of dogs for over 10 years after that happened.

There are good dogs and there are bad dogs. I'd love to have a pit. They're always smiling.


Paula Amos 6 years ago

Wtf!!! is wrong with these people ginger did nothing wrong she was attacked first!! if it was may dog i would hide her!!!thanks for the story!!!


Adam Giguere 6 years ago

More proof that the lawmakers in Ontario are dumbasses


Adam Giguere 6 years ago

the other dog should be put down too, bsl is a huge waste of money and does no good, it's been proven again and again.


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K9keystrokes 6 years ago from Northern, California

Breed profiling has got to be managed much better or completely discontinued. Whitney05, a hubber here on hubPages, has written many very good hubs about Pit Bulls that should not be missed. I recommend anyone who has feelings one way or another about Pits read them. Ginger sounds delightful and a beast I would like to hug. It's just a shame that humans continue to judge a book by its cover. Possibly if they were to read the reviews they would fine the sweet family K9 that resides within rather than the fear based monster this family pet has been labeled as. Ginger, you are in my prayers.

K9


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Elisa Taylor 6 years ago Author

I sent Whitney05 a message that I linked a hub. The information on that link saved me a lot of explaining time and I'm glad it was there to share. I had several friends on Facebook asking me to write Gingers story as they are in Ontario.


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druidana 6 years ago from southern indiana

keeping u in my thoughts n prayers, Ginger...i think it's very sad that YOU were attacked yet it it YOU that is paying for it......bless u, beautiful girl

dru


NikiiLeeReyes 6 years ago

I've linked your article to mine; this is very sad. It breaks my heart. My heart goes out to the dog-owner and his family. Pit Bulls are extremely loyal and will never do anything to hurt anyone. Poor Ginger. Power to you; and your courageousness posting this Hub. Check mine out I think you may agree and like it. Blessed be--Nikki.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Leave-My-Pit-Bull-Alone


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Elisa Taylor 6 years ago Author

See, we're all working together to change things. I write because I know there are people out there who can spread the word.


Fran C. 6 years ago

Ginger has her Canine Good Neighour certificate and passed with flying colours. I have personally met her many times and since she was released, she has attended more than a few protests. NEVER has she shown any aggression toward other dogs and is a real sweetheart with any and ALL people she meets.

This law wrong is SO wrong on SO many levels. Buddy, the dog that was off leash, and attacked, has since passed away but rumour has it that was not the last time he ran off leash and attacked. He was never taken in to animal control nor was HIS owner ticketed for even having a dog off leash.

There is SOMETHING really wrong with this and sadly we have seen what happens when discrimination and profiling is legalized. By putting in breed specific language in Ontario the Dangerous Dog Act was neutered. The act has not lowered bites and instead has made it SO EASY to go after targeted dogs, while NOT holding ALL owners of ALL dogs responsible to the kind of standard it was initially meant to.

Any dog deemed to be "substantually similar" to a pit bull, no matter how docile, well trained, well loved or well socialized falls under this darconian law and THAT means ANY medium sized short haired MUTT.

WHAT were our legislators thinking?


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Elisa Taylor 6 years ago Author

Just a stupid question, but can anyone "kidnap" her?

People need to realize that if one area thinks they are succeeding with BSL, YOUR part of the world may think it's a great program and pass it into law. Dog ownership as it should be is quickly disappearing through misinformation and stupidity.


NikiiLeeReyes 6 years ago

I would have no problem kidnapping her; shes innocent. She defended herself. Why is it the other dog is not on death row; who provoked the fight to begin with. With enough petitions; we can fight this. I dare anyone try to kill my dog; I dare em'. Poor Ginger.


KATHLEEN 6 years ago

WELL MY AMERICAN STAFFORDSHIRE WAS ATTACKED AND MUTILATE , TOP OR HER HEAD RIPPRD OFF BY A GREAYHOUND AND ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THE GREYHOUND HAD NO , I REPEAT NO INJURIES BUT MY AM STAFF HAD ALL THE TOP OF HER HEAD RIPPED OPEN AND THE RIGHT HEAR RIPPED WHICH COST ME A FORTUNE , HAVE ALL THE VET VILLS , PICS AND FRIENDS AFTER TO HELP ME CARE FOR HER BUT THE PERSON WHO OWNED THE GREYHOUND DID NOT OR WAS NOT EVEN BROUGHT TO JUSTICE....WHY CAUSE I HAD A BULLY BREED....................HOW IS THAT FOR FAIR JUSTICE..............I WILL NEVER FORGET OR FORGIVE ANY OF THEM...........BUT WILL NEVER BLAME THE BREED.....


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Elisa Taylor 6 years ago Author

What about the Chow, Rottweiler, Akita, Greyhound, Malamute, Husky, Australian Cattle Dog, Dalmation, Old English Sheepdog, Great Dane, Border Collie, German Shepherds, and Shar-Pei who are on Merritt Cliftons list of most dangerous breeds? Will all of these breeds eventually have similar Breed Specific Legislation placed on them. What will we have left? Sounds like all dogs may someday be illegal to own. This list covers a lot of breeds. I still say it's the individual dog and not a breed itself. Bad owners are the problem.

Just enter dangerous dogs in your search engine and see all of the references to the above breeds that pop up.


Bet Taylor 6 years ago

I never liked Pit bull dogs but I met a friend who had a friendly pit bull dog who ran loose. Her name was Molly. Soft as her name her personality type was. Now after reading the story about GINGER, I am totally shocked at the latest outsome of her situation. Was that muzzle lost by convenience I wonder. Who has it? Why don't someone caugh it up?! If they put Ginger down then an injustice will occur. What about the other dog, the attacker?! Just as I thought...NOTHING HAPPENS!! GET THESE COMMENTS PRINTED OUT AND GIVE TO THE LEGAL SYSTEM. I stand up for GINGER and her owner. Oh if only I could be the one to hear cases such as these I'd set them free, (notice I said, "such as these"). Other cases would vary considering the situation. Pray for this owner and their dog.


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Peter Dickinson 6 years ago from South East Asia

It is all so sad. Way back we rescued a dog in the UK before the legislation came in. We did not know it was a banned dog and neither could the police or RSPCA state for definite that it was, She had to be registered, spayed, tattooed and insured for three million pounds. Then she had to be muzzled and kept on a leash at all times, even in a car. Always free running before and would not hurt a fly (apart from collies which she had a thing about).

I believe that some breeds are instinctively dangerous though. She could have been in certain situations even though she never was. The breeders are to blame and so are the owners. It is never really the dogs fault. They were made that way.


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I am so sorry - but I do know that many pit bulls have turned on loving owners. There is a propensity within their breed of aggression.

Any breeder will tell you to read about the breed before buying the dog to make sure the character and type of dog fits into your lifestyle, especially where babies and children are concerned.

The Dog Whisperer - one of the top experts in dog behavior agrees and warns people about the different types of dogs and what their instincts are in certain situation.

That does not mean there are no exceptions, of course. But I am wary of pit bulls.


occult 6 years ago

I am from india n love animals specially dogs n connected to their welfare n an active member of the PFA[ppl for animals] I dont know the current rules there regarding animal welfare in particular pit bulls. plz keep me informed any further development reg the dog n the strongest force there who can save the dog.This is very inhumane.


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Eiddwen 6 years ago from Wales

This goes on all over the world and it is not fair. Having kept Dobermann and Staffies all over the years I can understand how upsetting this is.

As there are good people and bad in every culture the same goes for these dogs.

A great hub and thank you for sharing.

Take care.


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Wolfenhere 6 years ago from Oregon

Pit bulls were bred for strength and power. Like it or not the dog has been raised and trained to fight and kill. They are good dogs if trained correctly. However, because we humans fear what we can not control we enact laws on animals that make us look like animals. I agree with others if she were my dog I would get her out of there before they kill her, they will do it. Laws are often made to protect the public at large. When the public at large is the problem what law do we make then? Good story. Thank you.


Emily 6 years ago

This is complete racism. I have to deal with this every day as I search to find a new house--people want to meet my mixed breeds NOT to make sure they are friendly, but to make SURE they are NOT pit mixes. I met a Doberman x Pit the other day that looked just like a hound, and no one would ever think to call it a pit mix, yet any dog with a big head and chest is called a pit. In my countless walks over the years, I have been chased, charged, and attacked by countless heelers, Min Pins, French bulldogs, Bullmastiffs, Golden Retrievers, shepherds, mutts, and Jack Russels....only ONCE have I encountered a pit that was up for a battle, and he was chased away easier than all the other breeds. None of those other stories would have ever made it into the news. And I HATE that people think any sort of dog aggression by a pit means it will be people aggressive. There are SO many dogs out there that aren't the best with other dogs, and their owners give excuses for them constantly, but if it is a pit bull or any pit-type, it's aggressive and must be put down. Yet no one publicizes the countless daily stories of pitties who save lives. My friend's pit bull saved a stranger's DOG from drowning a year ago, and no one cared to listen to that. Down the road people will just choose another breed to ban, any breed could be next.


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ELeeH 6 years ago

These are just such stupid laws, and the 'dangerous' breeds seem to change from decade to decade. Like Emily said above, any breed could be the next 'dangerous' breed.

While growing up it was Dobermans and then German Shepards we were told to stay away from. There will always be some 'dangerous' breed, where in reality, the dangerous breed is human and how we raise these dogs.

ANY dog breed can be trained to be a killer! It's up to the owner. To ban one breed is just plain ludicrous.


Tanzi 6 years ago

I have a pitbull cross...she is my world and my little princess. She is the most kindest, loving affectionate animal....a dog is only as good as it's owner.

We try to be responsible pitbull owners, but the media and lack of education about these wonderful breeds is the true death of pitbulls...ignorances kills, ignorance ruins and ignorance is the result of damnation. We must have some kind of petition to keep her alove or petition to pass some kind of law...we have to do something..but where do you start and with whom? and can something be done before it's too late for precious Ginger.


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psychicesmeralda 6 years ago from Las Vegas, NV ~City of Desire~

There is power in numbers! and we can do something to make a change! now and in the future.

I would suggest contacting PETA day or night—at 757-622-7382 and dial 2. for help and suggestions.

Also contact your local government officials for support and let them know that this is cruel and that Ginger has a right to live and given a chance to rehabilitation.

The fact that Ginger was illegally held for almost 4 years has effected this dog mentally & emotionally.

Ginger has life and feelings she can sense fear and suffering and with the proper help she can give love! as seen in the picture above!

Make a difference everyone get involved!


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mikicagle 6 years ago from Oklahoma

I was blessed to have a pitbull shepherd mix for 16 years. His name was Rio and he was a best friend to me, my children, and our other dogs. We used to call him Mother Rio because he was so kind around the other animals. I have owned dogs my entire life and had so called 'vicious' breeds, I've found that it is all about how you raise a dog that shapes his personality. I've been bitten by my neighbors cocker spaniel and lab, but was never even growled at by my pitbull mix or 180lb rottweiler.


Myla Sumabat 6 years ago

Poor Ginger, was attacked and now paying the ultimate price...can the owner surrender her somewhere so she could live????? My heart is bleeding for this poor sweet girl who had done nothing wrong!!!


mamaofpitbulls 6 years ago

to the dude who thinks pits were made to fight they were not. go to history on pit bulls you will find they were aroud before fighting german shepards, akitas, shar pei were also trained for this and they are not held to the same standard as pit bulls. and actually if you ever read anything on pits you would learn that pits actually do really well with kids when properly socialized because they actually like the ruff touches and firm pats and NO dogs should ever be left alone with a child and thats any breeds and all dogs should be properly exposed to children from a young age so kids dont scare them most bite happen with dogs from fear and pain now go look up dog bites and dogs attacks and then look at the percent of those that are pits you will find it to be alot lower then breeds you would figure to be sound breeds but they dont get the media attention that pits get. every media storm has to have a villan and right now its pits next it will be rots or doberman pinchers when does it end when do we hold the owners responsible for their lack of work with their dogs or their lack of keeping their dogs in a pen fence or house. I was always told you can beat a dog and make it stay but its fear that makes that dogs stay not respect and that fear will cost you your arm. I am the proud owner of two balanced pits and a balance rot and i am also the mom of a three yr old, who by the way his bestfriend is my blue pit. a dogs is going to defend itself and comon sense would tell you if you stick your hand in a dog fight your going to get bit its your own fault stupid and can you even say it was that dog who bit you and not your own. my boxer and my springer spaniel got into a disagreement and i stuck my hand in the middle trying to grab collars and I got bit by my own dog MY fault i stuck my hand in it.


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Elisa Taylor 6 years ago Author

I remember one time my boxer and my cocker spaniel got into a food disagreement and turned over the food bowl and spilled dog food all over the kitchen floor. I got mad at them and told them to work it out between themselves and went to bed. When I got up the next morning, the food was gone and the two dogs were curled up together asleep. They worked it out.

It only takes a person 1 time of getting in the middle of a disagreement and you usually won't do it again. He's going on 11 now and is the alpha male. His eating comes first and we've definitely learned that.


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wrhapsody 6 years ago from Renton, WA

As a lover of animals and the best friend of a couple that own two very large, cuddly, and sweet pit bulls, I am shocked at the Canadian BSL on them.

A dog is only as good as it's owner. Pit bulls require an intense amount of "stern training" which involves being very assertive and putting the dog on its back, looking it straight in the eyes, and waiting for him to turn his eyes away. Pit bulls, like most dogs, are best trained using the dominance factor.

Keara (2 years) and Jasper (6 months), a beautiful white female and a stunning red male, are the two softhearted pit bulls my best friend own. When I met these two they barked and growled a bit, but a growl-like warning from their owner calmed them.

Now, after about two months, when I knock on the door the bulls still bark but at the sound of my voice whine and whimper for me to come inside and love on them.

Pit bulls, along with any other "danger" breed, are not in anyway bad. People are bad and people train their pets to be bad. Whether this is intentional though abuse or through lack of knowledge/time/etc for training.

In the case of Ginger, the other dog's owner was out of line because his dog was not on a leash. Had this been the opposite, the lively Shepard mix would not have been able to provoke the gentle pit bull.

STOP PUNISHING ANIMALS FOR HUMANS' MISTAKES.

A person commits the offense of cruelty to animals when he/she causes death or unjustifiable physical pain or suffering to any animal by an act, an omission, or willful neglect.(http://www.humaneassociationofgeorgia.org/animal_c...

There you have it. Animal cruelty is defined as the cause of unjustifiable suffering to any animal. Putting a pit bull to death for biting someone for any and all reasons is unjustifiable and should be stopped.


Animals Alone 6 years ago

The BSL is ONLY in Ontario Canada and not the rest of Canada - the only way to fight this, is to collect HAND SIGNED Petitions and send it to Ontario's Legislature - registered mail!!! So many people sign petitions for Canadian fur trade, seals etc and it all goes in the garbage, BECAUSE there is a procedure to follow to make Petitions legal! If this procedure is not followed, it is useless signing online petitions. Here are the procedures that need to be followed...

IF PEOPLE WANT TO HELP GINGER - PLEASE ACT NOW!!!

http://www2.parl.gc.ca/marleaumontpetit/DocumentVi...


Animals Alone 6 years ago

This is a great group in Toronto Ontario, the site has all the help one needs to contact Ontario Government -

http://www.defendingdog.com/

Public Pressure is needed from all over the world - registered snail mail is the only legal way, anywhere in Canada, for letters to be recognized

Please FLOOD them with Public Opinion!!!


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talisa2699 6 years ago from Boston, MA

Sad sad sad. How could you keep a dog away from it's owner for so long? Just Horrible. These laws are ridiculous.


Shirleen Gee 6 years ago

Get rid of all of these kind of animals -- no more pit bulls -- no more problems. These incidents have been escalating since the 1960s and more deaths are in sight -- IT IS THE BREED, IT IS THE OWNER, it is time for them to go!!!


Melissa 6 years ago

Shirleen Gee - You are a sick individual. Would you like us to wipe out the entire human race? Humans kill each other everyday, and for stupid reasons, not in self defense like poor Ginger did. IT IS TIME FOR IGNORANT PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO GO!

I have 2 pit bulls and I am a responsible owner. I have raised my girls to be gentle and loving.

So I am taking your comment personally. SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND GO CRAWL BACK INTO WHATEVER HOLE YOU CRAWLED OUT OF AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE.


aslee 6 years ago

Sad story I'm from Turkey. I also have a american pitbull terrier and a bull terrier. They tried to put my pit to sleep but i put up a fight for it you cant just kill a good mannered dog just because of its breed!! This is stupid. We had everyone who thought it was stupid sign a letter about it and sent it to the government. Now they took a step back but who knows when they will go after them again. This is dumb i dont get it. Rotties goldens and even mix breeds bite and when it goes on the news the breed turns into pits. If you can send ginger here or to the states where they can keep her safe. Dont give her up for no reason. say she died and just take her somewhere safe. why does and innocent dog who gets attacked have to pay the price?!? UUugggg!!


John 6 years ago

I am form Turkey and my government just passed the law ordering all bull breed, Dogo aragantino ,Napolitan mastiff, and toso inu to be collected by police and put in sleep.

Also they fine the owners by owning such breeds... while taking their dogs.. I left my country with my dog and now living in Italy... I can not even explain how i felt and how i fought for this while i was in my country Turkey. I formed a social movement and so forth, appeared on Tvs and News Papers explaining the reality of these breeds and how they are blamed innocently Unfortunately nothing happened.. they still do what they want to do so i had to leave my country....


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jillsama 6 years ago from Gwinnett County Georgia

I completely agree with you. I bet if she had been any other type of dog, Ginger would have been freed. I believe Ginger just acted upon instinct. Poor baby, being away from her family for all those years. She will be in my prayers.


cathy 6 years ago

Why put Ginger on Death Row when it was the other dog that attacked.. Remember Ginger had her muzzle on and she was on a leash where as the other dog wasn't and he wasn't muzzled either. If any dog should be on death row it should be the other dog.


Sandrakay 6 years ago

Shirleen Gee-

People who don't know enough about a subject should SHUT THEIR MOUTHS! I have 2 beautiful dogs, one is a pit-mix, one an American Bulldog- And it's people like you who come up to me on the street that ask if they are the same breed as "Petey" from little rascals- and when I respond yes the little one is a pit bull then they looked shocked that they are letting this viscous dog lick there child's face! But since you are uninformed, maybe you didn't know that the pitbull was once considered the all-American dog? Back when dogs remained outside they were allowed in the house to "babysit" the kids. And maybe you were unaware that the main reason they started to breed Pits for fighting was because of this strong loyalty and need to please attitude towards people... in the wrong hands a scissors can be dangerous but we still let our children use them.

You know it's funny; I could kill someone, and be back on the streets with a good chunk of my life to live, yet this poor dog was the victim and is now facing death. HORRIBLE-Just like you Shirleen, HORRIBLE.


Michaela B 6 years ago from Buffalo, NY

Although pit bulls are regularly prejudiced as a difficult and aggressive breed, they can be really tame as long as their owner puts in the time to train them. Even in that case, dogs will be dogs and will definitely defend themselves if attacked, as will most PEOPLE. This is a case of self-defense; Ginger was attacked by an unleashed dog and defended herself. Just because she's a pit bull doesn't mean she's aggressive, it just means that she's a breed of dog and dogs will defend themselves when attacked. It's so sad that people are so prejudiced.


Laura  6 years ago

The dog with no leash and that was the initiator should be the one that is put down. Not the one defending herself and her owner. Pit-bull's are just a breed (an amazing breed) and people are so ignorant to the fact that any dog can have the same reputation if they are treated and used in the wrong way. Give me a break and get a clue.

......Owner of 2 Pit-bull rescues!


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bodylevive 6 years ago from Loachapoka, Alabama

I am so sorry to hear about Ginger. I am a Pit owner. They are loving and loyal. I don't understand the laws where you live. If you get the time, please visit my hub http://hubpages.com/t/c867d. It is about my Pit Bull, Eragon. I'm very touched about this situation but I don't know what to do to help.


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Jaynie2000 6 years ago

I have heard far more positive stories about pits than negative. Really. I hear that pits are loving and loyal and are actually great dogs to have with children. The pits we read about in the news (Ginger and similar dogs excluded) that go on violent rampages, are those whose owners instill violence in them. There are far too many people who actually choose pits because of their ill-deserved reputations for aggression. Then the owner shape that aggression through poor pet-rearing. In short, they're raised to be aggressive.

This story makes me ill. I am heartbroken for this poor dog. That picture of her with the muzzle (if that is in fact her) is so sad. The Canadian authorities should be ashamed. This is like blaming a rape victim for her assault. Unacceptable! Ginger did what she should have done...she protected herself. Put the other dog on death row and let that owner do time...or at least pay a hefty fine!


ReginaLL 6 years ago

The Pit Bull breed is completely misunderstood. We have a blue nose who is as sweet as can be with everyone. He only wants to play and get all the hugs he can. This poor dog has been mis-judged and something should be done to save her. If indeed she was the victim, the owner of the collie should come forward to clear up the matter and not allow Ginger to be put down. He should own up to his own responsibility to have his dog on a lease. Pit Bulls are loveable and can be the best dogs ever as long as they are loved as well.


Gillian 6 years ago

Ginger was muzzled and on a lead, why is the Ontario government blaming Ginger when his owner was doing what was necessary. The other dog's owner should have had her dog on a leash too and nothing would have happened. Why are you blaming Ginger, during the altercation the other dog ripped off the muzzle. No-one should have that poor animal on death row it should be back with its owner at home where it belongs. Why is the other dog allowed to go free it was the one who was responsible for the altercation because it was not leashed. WAKE UP let Ginger go free it was not his fault.


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Maria Cecilia 6 years ago from Philippines

I am really very sad for this, the fault of a human for not putting his dog on leash is now putting ginger in death row again,,, I mean if it didn't happen, nothing will trigger..please update us on this, I hope ginger still survive this...


juju 6 years ago

personal i think they all should be put down, just sayin


Kay 6 years ago

Is there any way Ginger could be adopted to a family outside the area where she would be safe?


Olive 6 years ago

It's as much the morons who own these dogs that are to blame- I say both breeds, ie; the pit bulls and the morons, should be bred out of existence. It's not a fear of what I don't understand- I have been around professional dog breeders and handlers all my life- we bred Bull Terriers in the 80's- Pit Bulls are just too much to handle for 98% of the population.


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hurdlesgreetings 6 years ago

This sickens me!! This was not Ginger's fault at all, just because she is of pit bull breed, does not make her to be an evil animal. It makes me wonder why the other dog 'Buddy' is not going through the same ordeal. I agree with 'Kay', is there any other family that can adopt him outside of Ontario? I myself live in Canada and I do know a few people that have gone through moving out of Ontario to avoid the whole BSL laws.

I wish Ginger all the luck in beating this ridiculous charge and please keep us updated on what happens!!


katelynn 6 years ago

it is not fair pit bulls are just terriers pit bull terrriers and that are not violte animals it depends on the onwer and i am very big animal lover and pits deserve a better history then they get anyway it sucks how so many ppl hate pits probaly from what others tell them


katelynn 6 years ago

i had a japnesews akida they r trained to chase people down but she is so swett and pits derserve to live and stop being used for dog fightin altogether the a very sweet animals if raised right i makes me want to cry until i cant no more for all the dog fights and animal crultey i just want people to treat animals right god did not make all animals to be beatin negleted and killed i wish all animal crultey would just go away


Gatsby 6 years ago

If ever a canine needed Cesar Millan it's Ginger!


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men are dorks 6 years ago from Namibia

All those ignorant A-holes like juju convicting a dog just because it is a pitt bull, may bee they should be judged beacause they judge a dog.... its not the dog... it's the human behind the dog that created that dog to adapt in that particullar bahaviour.

How many other dogs like shepards or collies have bitten people.... and not a word bout it at all, but just be it a PB and the whole world is up in arms.

Pit Bulls are wonderfull dogs.... just watch Cesar Millans' show and his Daddy.


Tina 6 years ago

How sad that the dog breed is again blamed. All dogs are unpredictable. I had a pit bull from 6 weeks old and finally put him down at the age of 15 years. He was the most special creature = I don't think he can ever be replaced. He was absolutely wonderful with small children, would allow them to prod and pull. I think there can be bad blood - but usually it us humans that cause it. I really think Ginger deserves better.


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monica1125 6 years ago from Earth

I loove animals and I feel so bad for Ginger! She's just a dog, she doesn't know biting is bad!


Anonymous 6 years ago

move away from that jurisdiction


JD 6 years ago

But the question I have is, if these dogs are so safe and gentle and non-aggressive, why is it that every story about dogs killing people (elderly and children in particular) or mauling people or other animals, is related to pit-bulls? If there wasn't a problem with this breed, then I don't think there would be so many stories in connection. You don't hear stories almost monthly about labs or spaniels or german shepards attacking and killing defenseless people or animals.

I've been to the park many times with my dog, leashed and controlled and have had other dogs come by that were not leashed, etc. and provoked my animal, but it never went wild and tried to kill the other animal or bite a human.

While this legislation may be a little over the top, I think there is a need to look harder and deeper into this breed and control it for the sake of safety. And if it means putting down the ones that are known to have attacked or acted viciously, so be it.


Sandra 6 years ago

I know this is a long shot but has anyone notified the pittboss http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pitt-Boss/2840537366.../topic.php?uid=284053736644&topic=12846 from animal planet or the woman who saves pitts and works with parole's (also from animal planet). I know both have rescued dogs that might were on death row before.. Just my thoughts.. thanks Sandra


karen 6 years ago

It the owner responsibility to train his/her dog appropriately. I have APBT (American Pit Bull Terrier) and she is the sweetish thing, and trained. The owner of this breed should educate themselves and their dog. At the same time advocate for their dogs. I read the Handbook of Joe Stahlkuppe, "The American Pit Bull Terrier" and make to appreciate this breed and respect it too. Do not matter what breed we have, a good dog is train anyway. What happen to Budy, the owner was irresponsible, and the poor Ginger got the blame for her breed. I call this just plain IGNORANCE


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Elisa Taylor 6 years ago Author

This just in: Members of the Daisy Foundation are trying their best to get ahold of Ginger and save her life. Bill Bruce has offered to take her to Calgary. For more see this page

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/201...


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Elisa Taylor 6 years ago Author

This just in: Members of the Daisy Foundation are trying their best to get help for Ginger and save her life. Bill Bruce with animal and bylaws services has offered to take her to Calgary at no expense to taxpayers. This is causing hell for many who don't want him to do this for Ginger. For more see this page

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/201...


Karen Clarke 6 years ago

The laws in Ontario are so stupid. They even state that a banned dog is one of four breeds listed OR any dog with similar chracteristics. I guess this gives them the right to ban any dog that even remotely LOOKS like a Pit Bull. Recent articles state the BSL legislation does not work and is not effective at reducing the number of dog bite incidents!

I currently live in a condo where there are 3 American Bull Dogs whose owners have had to prove that they are not a Pit Bull mix, carry paperwork at all times and have chosen to muzzle their dogs just to be on the safe side. This is insanity considering the dogs look nothing like Pit Bulls.

Way back before BSL was even a thought, I had a Pit Bull growing up and she was the sweetest dog. I am sad that I live and work in a Province that will not allow me to have one of these wonderful dogs in my life again.


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Eternal Evolution 6 years ago from kentucky

It truly is a SAD and messed up world in which we live. Stories like this make me feel as if im fighting a loesing battle against BSL and breed discrmination. In the case, like so many others, a responsible owner is being punished and an innocent dog is going to lose it's life. Ginger was simply defending herself, and the owner of the other dog should not have tried to break up the fight with his bare hands, that's just asking for a bite. BSL kills and does nothing to stop the real problem, irresponsible dog ownership. Very sad indeede...i will pass this story on to pitbullpositive.ning.com


Don 6 years ago

I agree this sounds unfair. I will say I am tending to a pit rescue and she brings out aggression in dogs that my other dog is friendly with. I found that pits are wired differently and require a different hand. I won't let her lead me to another dog leashed or not, I always have to pull her attention towards me. In a situation like this I've pinned her to the ground to let the other dog know I'm in charge. I'm not shy about confronting a dog that's showing aggression with an attitude that it's going to hurt worse than me if it tries anything. This posture seems to have kept me from situations like this so far.

Otherwise my pit Stella is a sweet dog and very well behaved.


Kelsey 6 years ago

WOW. That is horrible! I cannot believe that Buddy and his owner are getting let off the hook. Buddy was off leash, not muzzled and attacked another dog. Plus the only reason the owner got bit was because he was stupid and jumped in... DUH you're going to get bit!

This sickens me, I see it all the time as I work at the Humane Society. Pits always get put down for biting while Chihuahuas get a second chance. I don't understand this logic. IT is wrong, breed-profiling aka in the human world racial profiling! (kind of extreme, but you get the idea)

GINGER I hope you make it out of this mess! The courts are wrong!!!!


Kelsey 6 years ago

WOW. That is horrible! I cannot believe that Buddy and his owner are getting let off the hook. Buddy was off leash, not muzzled and attacked another dog. Plus the only reason the owner got bit was because he was stupid and jumped in... DUH you're going to get bit!

This sickens me, I see it all the time as I work at the Humane Society. Pits always get put down for biting while Chihuahuas get a second chance. I don't understand this logic. IT is wrong, breed-profiling aka in the human world racial profiling! (kind of extreme, but you get the idea)

GINGER I hope you make it out of this mess! The courts are wrong!!!!


lexi 6 years ago

Is it me or is Ginger actualy Black?


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Elisa Taylor 6 years ago Author

Ginger doesn't even look that much like a pit to me. But it's what the government says that matters in BSL. And Ginger does look black.


Susanne 6 years ago

How can people be so stupid? And how can they be so cruel??? This is a bunch of nonsense. Ginger is being punished because of an irresponsible dog owner. This is madness.


Shannon Reed 6 years ago

Hi my name is Shannon I am 12 years old. I own a staffoshire bull terrier (classified as a pitbull)and I could put him my hamster and my baby niece in a room and not have to worry about any of them getting hurt. So sometime this April I will be holding a protest to free the pitbulls. For more info about the protest e-mail me at: havoctheghostdog@hotmail.com


Renata 6 years ago

Punish the deed, not the breed, look at the hand holding the lead.


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men are dorks 5 years ago from Namibia

Breed Specific Legislation????

If the government can implement such legislation when will they outlaw any specific human race too. Just a thought... and this is in Canadaof all places...


steve 5 years ago

Anyone who thinks pits are bad are MORONS.and I personally heard u say it id smack the shit out of u . The best most loyal breed,everyone will be bought to justice for creating and passing bsl..that woodnt. Happen in educacated cities like mine nyc.. it wood be a warzone if they ever tried.anyone touched my dog better run for there fukn lifes...


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Mrs. J. B. 5 years ago from Southern California

POOR GINGER.... I own 4 pitbulls and my heart aches reading this story. Too many people blame pits for everything and anything. Its annoying to say the least.

What I do not understand is how Jody MacDonald is not held responsible for her dog's aggressive behavior. How did they become the VICTIMS????? Also for her to press charges is BS... I am on Ginger's side and hope that somehow the courts throw this case out.


Answersinwriting 5 years ago

Thank you for this article. I was not aware of some of the points you brought up such as the necessity to prove the lineage of a mutt. It does make very sad to see the way pit bulls are being treated. I went into a pound in Seattle a few years ago and it seemed like 60% or so of the dogs were pit bulls. Having had friends with pit bulls, I know that they are very sweet animals. Thank you for writing this.


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Paws For Peace 5 years ago

It breaks your heart to read these stories. I'm waiting for the law to tell every police officer he has to surrender his dog because of the breed predjudges.


Mia Dardar 5 years ago

It's wrong that me and my 10 month old son can't stroll up our street ... b/c of a mean little tea cup dog is trying to bite my sons toes (a let me just say off his leash at that) and go after my ankles. But when my pit slips out of his leash the owner of the tea cup dog is calling the cops and the cops tell me if they find out he's off he will be put down by force(shot) and he would never try to bite anyone... I asked wat about there ankle biters and tell the cops they r always running the streets they say nothing ... It's all bullshit that pitbull are all treated like they are all bad ... nobody looks at the real story anymore they just blame the pitbulls for everything ....


jenelle castillo 5 years ago

Just wanted to say thanx for standing up for the pitbull breed which is my favorite. I have an amazing male pitbull and he's the most affectonate pet and best friend to me and ma 6 month old baby girl. I love pitbulls!!


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Eiddwen 5 years ago from Wales

Another great hub Elisa on the handsome boy Ginger.

I love all animals and this is the first time I have bben without a dog.

My daughter has a rescue staffie called Rocky.He is so gentle and loves the kids and also shares his bed with Sniffy the rabbit.

Again I push all the buttons on this one.

Take care Elisa.

Eiddwen.


ajeet 5 years ago

p/z save it it is not their fault.we make these dogs like this love them they will love all and don't tie them.


Jill 5 years ago

BSL is bull....My family had 3 Airedale Terriers (the largest terrier)..the smallest at 98lbs and the largest at 136lbs.. One we got as a puppy, the other 2 we rescues, the two rescues had been abused, one cowered and the other who was an alpha, did not. He became my dog after we bonded, I could do anything to him and I would have died protecting him as much as he would have for me. Yes, my family rather quickly figured out he was aggressive after he tried to eat our Yorkie, but we hung in there and did everything within our power to keep him and others safe and we did. He lived to 12 1/2 yrs old. This page could never begin to be filled with the stories of what we dealt with, with Murphy, and I wouldn't of traded him for the world....but I will say he had a lighting quick speed for a kill and outside of a cat coming in our yard, we were able to prevent any other harm to another animal, even when my dog was on a leash and the other one wasn't, but there were many close calls because other people let their dogs get loose. Good Luck....if you have a petition to sign to save Ginger, please let me know because I would like to tell the Canadian Government that I will not visit their country until this ban is abolished.


ken smith 5 years ago

my heart soars for you look on youtube lulu' law terrible unjust situation right now for me my family follow the links part pit bull cross wiemer amer


roy 5 years ago

thats not fare what they doing to them they got a life like ous


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Chris Kross 4 years ago from Dallas, TX

It is a shame this kind of thing happens. I saw a video about a guy who owe's the life of his son to his Pit Bull. His son was strangling on the rope from the window blinds next to his crib.

The child was upstairs and the husband and wife were downstairs. The Pit alerted the family that something was wrong, and literally pulled the father up the stairs by his shirt sleve to the childs door.

The father opened the door to find his child standing on his tip toes and blue in the face. The dog jumped into the crib before the father could even make it over there.

He knew something was wrong. He saved that kid's life. My own Pit, Demo, alerted our family when a friend's child was choking on something he picked up off the floor.

These dogs are known as the "nanny dog" for good reason. People who are afraid of the name Pit Bull are ignorant.

Dogs need to be judged on a case by case basis, just like people. There is NO justice in genocide.


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MelChi 3 years ago from Cape Town, South Africa

I can't understand why people in a position of power waste time on something like this when they could be spending it trying to help save other animals, or enforce laws that owners should walk their dogs with leashes (if it doesn't already exist). Poor Ginger. What a cruel way to spend the last few years. I'm beyond shocked.


Larry 14 months ago

My Chihuahua is more aggressive than a pitbull!!!

https://pethelpful.com/dogs/10-Most-Aggressive-Dog...

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