I Found A Painting By My Dumpster Today...

....And Grabbed It.

There is a certain truth to the phrase: "every man's trash is another man's treasure." I do believed I learned this truth today.

After a dreary, rainy day of feeling sorry for myself (warranted, but still unacceptable), I discovered a painting that had been laid up against my apartment complex's dumpster as I threw away some of my own trash. At first, I paid it no attention as I am not in the habit of recovering other peoples' disposed of items. But upon further investigation, I changed my mind.

As is visible in the picture, the painting is of a young girl in a red dress playing the piano. She is quite alone in this activity, which is perhaps why the discarded painting attracted me in the first place- she is in fact alone in a large room, but doesn't seem to care. Instead, she appears lost in her activity, and seems without thought as she sits at her piano. Her beautiful and vibrant solitude inspired me. But if you compare the two paintings- the one with the girl in the red dress, and the one with the girl in the blue dress below- this painting is quite dark. In fact, the print is so dark that several of the shapes are indiscernible. There isn't any damage that would cause this darkening of colors, but maybe the age of the print has had more of an effect that what was initially observable.

Needless to say, I took this painting from the dumpster and ran back to my apartment so that my neighbors wouldn't see me carrying someone else's trash. Once inside and out of the rain, I proceeded to research the painting's origins in hopes that I would learn more about its subject. I was surprised to discover that not much is known about this painting, nor its painter. Several sites featured people who had either stumbled upon the work in a consignment shop or had inherited it after the death of a relative. In addition, there were scores of people who were desperately searching for this painting due to its sentimental value.

About "Sonata"

The painting I have recovered from its intended final resting place is in fact quite old, and unfortunately in very poor condition. I believe that the painting had been hiding in one of my neighbor's apartments and was discarded with the remainder of the spring cleaning trash. The frame is not in decent shape, and parts of it actually crumbled to the touch. But the print itself seemed relatively well preserved with the exception of some newly-sustained water damage due to the rainy weather of that afternoon.

Which brings me to my next point- how could someone just toss a beautiful work of art such as this? As I said before, the painting itself is in less than ideal condition, however I can only imagine that the beauty of its elements remain the same as they were when they were first committed to canvas. Such a travesty!

For those art fanatics out there, or for anyone is simply more intelligent than I in the manner of artwork, the artist's name is signed at the bottom, a "M. Ditlef". The painting itself is titled "Sonata" and is the sister of several other works illustrated in the same Victorian style. And because I was unable to discover any information whatsoever about its origins, I have ceased investigating this painting for now.

.....what I DID discover, however, is that the picture is worth over $300.00, even in very poor shape.

Needless to say, my find brightened my day and I do intend on keeping the painting; I quite admire the young lady that it features. My question is who the subjects of these exquisite works actually are; I don't doubt in the least that they were real people. But who were they, and what was it about them that inspired this mysterious artist to feature them front and center? Judging from their clothing, I can only assume that these ladies were royalty of some sort, but from which lineage, I am unsure.

According to the minimum amount of information available about this painting, the artist (see the paragraph below) was responsible for creating a similar work of art involving another striking young woman playing the piano. The quality of these pieces is high, and the originals as well as preserved prints of those originals are highly sought after, as is the case with the painting seen below.

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A Mystery

Very little is known about the artist who created the painting from which this print- and many others- originated. According to the link below, only two of his works have ever been recovered. It is uncertain who exactly this individual was, if he used a pseudonym for any of his works, or if the reason for the lack of information was an untimely end to the artist's life. One possible theory includes that "M. Ditlef" is actually the same person as Antoni Ditlef, who signed his works as "Allegro, M. Ditlef". There is a strong possibility that he changed his signature, or that over the course of time damage to the original paintings caused his signings to appear as though his name was "M. Ditlef". However- according to the image at right- they are, in fact, two different people. Overall, there is a noticeable lack of solid information on either of these two people, the paintings that were signed with their common last name, or the subjects that inspired these creations.

What a mystery to ponder on a lonely, rainy day!

Whatever the case may be, it is certainly a mystery to anyone who enjoys musing over these beautiful Victorian works of art, as featured in the video below.

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Artist-For-Hire 5 years ago from Western Australia

Ohh, and how beautiful it is. (Welcome to HubPages btw.)

Don't these people know how much time and effort we invest in our work? Grr, it's SO frustrating. Work like that takes weeks if not months to paint...don't they realise the bond we form with our work after that length of time is comparable to the bond we have with our children?

You got me...I'm very curious now. These old paintings can be difficult to find. You can try askart.com - you can search artists alphabetically. To complicate matters there was an A.Ditlef as well as M.Ditlef = there is a thought that they may be one & the same.

Reproductions prints of this ilk flourished early last century as the tech took off. Sadly, this was pre-internet so unless the artist was a "somebody"...the knowledge will have been lost.

Good luck on your quest.


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jjackson786 5 years ago from Pennsylvania Author

Nice to see you again, Artist!

It is a very lovely print despite its age. It most needs some touching-up and restoration. You're correct about the two names; at first, I believed them to be siblings, but their works are too extremely similar. Others have suggested that M. Ditlef is actually a woman who changed her name for some reason on another, perhaps marriage. It is all very interesting...and mildly frustrating!


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Trish_M 5 years ago from The English Midlands

What a beautiful picture!

Someone else's deliberate loss was your gain ~ and you appreciate it ~ brilliant :)


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Matt in Jax 5 years ago from Jacksonville, FL

Who would ever toss a painting in the trash? What a #$&%. Nice find and great Hub.


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jjackson786 5 years ago from Pennsylvania Author

No clue. Thank goodness that I have no issues with dumpster-diving or that thing (which is now hanging in my living room) would have been long gone!


Phillygirl 5 years ago

My Grandparents had this hanging in their living room until they both passed away. My aunt bought the house and I don't know what happened to the painting ( family fueds, won't talk to us, sad)I loved this painting as a child and have been looking everywhere for it!! So excited to finally see it, have been searching for months on web! I agree it is a beautiful painting, wish I had my grandparents!


prinhap 5 years ago

I HAVE THE SONATA PAINTING AND LOOKING TO SELL IT. ANYBODY INTERESTED???? PRINHAP@GMAIL.COM


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jjackson786 5 years ago from Pennsylvania Author

Sorry for the late response, Phillygirl, but thanks for the memory! My "Sonata" has since been reframed and displayed in my hallway. It is still wonderful to look at, even after all of those days hanging out by the dumpster!


Shana 5 years ago

Hello. I have a beautifully framed painting of "Sonata" by M Ditlef in flawless condition. I would entertain any offers to sell it.

Thank you!

919-832-1189


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starstream 4 years ago from Northern California

Remember just because it is a treasure to one person another may not even see the beauty. thanks! Arts are my favorite endeavor!


Debbie 4 years ago

I have a print of M. Ditlef that is Song of Love that is in the same frame as your photo. It hung for I don't know how many years in a log cabin up in Dutch Flat. The cabin was built by my friends grandparents well over 50 years ago. Not sure how long it hung there but in excellent condition. I didn't find anything for a long time on it. It is more on loan to me as it still belongs to my girlfriend. I do however enjoy looking at it every day.


Bob 4 years ago

I happen to have the exact same painting. Mine happed to have been my Grand parents and it hung in their parlor from the time I was born. I am now 50YO and have the painting in my didning room now and LOVE it. I just wish I know more about the artist and value. To me priceless.


Crabbypants 4 years ago

I bought my painting at a second hand store and never dreamed to even check the value of it. It is very nice. The price I paid was next to nothing


Karen Mercier 4 years ago

My sister just picked up a copy of "Sonata" by Antoni Ditlef for $25 from a resale shop. The reason she bought it is because her and I grew up with this picture hanging on our livingroom wall. Sadly, our mother passed away when I was 10 and she was 6 so this painting has sentimental and nostalgic value to us. So I looked into the whole thing and well...you can look it up yourself. Go to WWW.Ditlef.com to see all the "Victorian Musicals" paintings and to see their reproductive values. I am still looking for information on the original and if it is still available. I love your article by the way and posted it on Facebook. Thank you for sharing. Hope my reply was helpful. God bless you!


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Better Yourself 4 years ago from North Carolina

Very interesting story! Thanks for sharing :) Hope you were able to find more info on the artist!


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grinnin1 4 years ago from st louis,mo

Good save! Wonderful hub and beautiful painting-


Tammy 4 years ago

I also love this painting. It hung over my grandmother's piano in her house. I have no idea where it ended up, but I always loved it as a child. I bought a piano a few years ago and have wanted to find that painting to hang over it. My sister just found it for $25 at a second-hand store! I'm so thrilled!


JOANNE 4 years ago

I have the painting as well I found it at a flea market and I have had it for 3 years I am finally going to hang it in my apt. It is so soothing to the site. LOVE IT.


JR 4 years ago

Artist-for-Hire. If the bond between the painting and the artist is that strong, it should never leave the artist's home.

Look at the pleasure this find is bringing. Is it better to have our work gathering dust, or enjoyed. I say, the latter, and I plan on putting work out by a dumpster.


cierra 4 years ago

i have an orginal "sonata" painting in the orginal frame and you can see that it is very old it has nails holding in the painting on the wooded frame, est, value $50,000. is what i was told at an antique show


Bethette 4 years ago from south jersey

Hi.I stumbled upon this site and am so happy I did. I can't stop reading, etc. Anyway I got here searching myself for imformation about a framed print my grandmother left, me also called SONATA, but the artist is Jane Freeman.It also has a girl playing piano in blue dress. I wonder if anyone here could tell me anything.

Again it's been great and I will follow the "hub" Beth:)


natalie 4 years ago

you are not going to beliecve this, but I found the same exact painting in a Chicago alley, leaning next to a dumpster, rescued it, and its been hanging in my home for five years. Mine is in good condition, where did you find how much it is worth?


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jjackson786 4 years ago from Pennsylvania Author

Wow....$50,000? No way! I don't think mine is in the original frame, and it's only a print, but it's still quite a catch! Natalie, I haven't been able to find any information about how much a print is worth exactly, but feel free to update me if you stumble across something!


geo 4 years ago

does anyone have a date for the original prints?


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Perry the Cat 4 years ago from Mouskin, Texas

Is this a painting or a print? The prints seem to be common, but if yours is a painting, then it is likely to be one of a kind. Ditlef did Victorian musical artwork and seemed to have a penchant for young women at pianos.

My little bit of research has shown that Antoni Ditlef was the name of the painter. If he was French, M. is the abbreviation for Monsieur, or Mister. The paintings listed as those of Antoni Ditlef are quite similar in subject matter to your painting, so I suspect there is a connection there. http://www.ditlef.com/antoniditlefteal.html


Karan Kieffer Boree 4 years ago

I bought a very very old print of this painting in it's origonal wood frame at an estate sale $5. The colors are so faded you can barely tell the dress is red but the beauty of the painting is still there. I just love it.


LEA S 3 years ago

I have a painting somewhat the same BUT the lady is wearing a Green dress / playing the piano ... I found it about 30 years ago at a yard sale , paid 20 $ for it .. FOr many year I have wondered who painted it .... I just love it :)


pixeygone 3 years ago

I have this painting in the original frame in pretty good condition i like it i just have know were to put it up so it has been stored for awhile.


Teresa 3 years ago

I've had this painting for years now. Found it at a yard sale. My daughter fell in love with it. Bought it for $3.00. It is in great shape.


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jjackson786 3 years ago from Pennsylvania Author

It is a beautiful painting, albeit a tad on the dark side, almost somber. Thanks for all your comments!


Deborah Kaluzny 3 years ago

I also have this painting hanging on the wall in my guest bedroom. I was so hoping it was an original, because you can see and feel the brush strokes. However, I wasn't too sad that it wasn't. It's still very beautiful and appreciated. I believe I've found an original Maude Eggemeyer watercolor. I don't think it's a print because after running a small cloth over some of the red in it, the red came off on the cloth. But who knows, maybe that happens with prints too.

Best regards,

Deborah


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jjackson786 3 years ago from Pennsylvania Author

Hi Deborah! I'm not too much of an art expert, but it seems like if the color is coming off of the painting you have then it might be authentic. The print that I have was made on a cardboard-type medium and the colors certainly do not bleed. You might have something of value there! If you decide to get it assessed, please update us!


Deborah Kaluzny 3 years ago

I will most definitely keep you posted. I sent pictures to a sight that likes to buy work. I'm waiting to hear what they say. I don't like taking it out of the frame, but had to do it to photograph it. I think it may be Maude Eggemeyer's early work. I'm always finding pictures with a chance of them being a treasure just from look and feel. Talk to you soon.

Best regards,

Deborah


maglet 3 years ago

Oh my gosh, I'm so glad I came across your story, I just bought a painting similar but my gal is in a blue dress and I've been trying to figure out the artist, I didn't want to take it out of its frame or further damage the painting but I knew it ended with a ilef, at first I thought it was nilet or something . Like yours there is some damage but it is beautiful and in what appears to be the original frame. :) Now I have a place to start! Thank you!!!


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jjackson786 3 years ago from Pennsylvania Author

You're very welcome! It's interesting because I've seen your painting during my research online, and the two artists share the same last name but they're supposedly not related? Something very strange is going on here. Let me know if you find anything else out!


maglet 3 years ago

In what littlebit that I came up was that M Ditlef is a mystery and 3 paintings can be found, our 2 and a duet all depicting women on the piano.It is very strange and intriguing :) if I come up with anything else I will share :) I'm so glad you found yours and are able to enjoy it!


maglet 3 years ago

I did more digging, some sites say the sonata is by m. ditlef and others say antone ditlef, there are 6 antone ditlef paintings/lithographs : enchantment, duet, allegro, sonata, and interlude. they say that m ditlef paintings are song of love and sonata and duet on some website, like you said definitly something strange is definitly going on...i'm so confused. lol


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jjackson786 3 years ago from Pennsylvania Author

I know! And I'm glad I'm not the only one. They're beautiful paintings- I actually like yours more than mine- but there's nothing to be found about them or their artists online! I've almost been convinced to actually go to the library and look this up in real live books as opposed to using the internet :)


Jodee Aylor 2 years ago

I have this M. Ditlef painting, it was my Grandmothers. However I need to sell it.


a.hernandez 2 years ago

i have the same painting


Fmhall 17 months ago

I have a lithograph of "enchantment" by Antoni Ditlef, I'm trying to find out something about the artist. If anyone knows anything please message me. Thank you.


stella 17 months ago

I have the picture of the girl in red that my father bought back in the early 60's and it hung in my patents' home until my mother left it to me 6 years ago. I love the peace it gives to me. I do wish to clean it but have no desire to ruin it. Does anyone know the correct way to clean?


ayiana 16 months ago

I have the song of love painted by M. Ditlef, I got it at a yard sale for $8. Its a flawless print in a beautiful frame, its from the 1930s and worth as of 2 years ago over $300. There is only 3 paintings that have been found of Ditlef's, if you have an oil painting of this particular print its worth around $1,500 or more..........depending upon the condition of it. This painting originated in the late 1800s......I absolutely love it, its going on my bedroom wall where it will stay.


Misti 14 months ago

The girl in the red dress. She was the first to hang in my Grandparents house, then in my parents, and then in mine. Well in mine until mid-Ninty's when it disappeared during my mothers move. She was holding the picture for me until I could get settles again. Your story of the dumpster really struck a sad note, as we believe her boyfriend didn't like it and tossed it out. And that would have been at a dumpster in an apartment complex but I am sure you have found your much more recently than the mid-ninty's. I am so glad you appreciate it. The girl is almost a perfect spitting image of my Mother in her early 20's. I used to spend hours staring at it as a little girl. That is why my mother had given it to me early in life :)

Thank you for all of your research as I have always wondered who painted it but never really thought to research.


Dolores 14 months ago

I have the same painting I found it in the attic at my parents and was curious who painted it ,and how much its worth


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jjackson786 14 months ago from Pennsylvania Author

Thank you, Misti, for stopping by! This seems to be a fairly popular picture and one that has brought joy to many people.

Dolores, you might want to take your painting to an appraiser. They should be able to determine if it's genuine and how much it might be worth. Please keep us updated!


Liz 12 months ago

My Great Aunt Cecelia had this painting, which was passed down to my godmother, which was passed down to me when she passed away. Which my kids put a lamp through shortly after I brought it home. To say that broke my heart is an understatement! To read someone threw away a painting I've been searching to replace brakes it just a little further. Good thing it's just a thing. = )


Mo Kafka 9 months ago

These are all Turner brand prints. The Turner company operated into the 1980s and owned the original and all reproduction rights to the 'Sonata' painting. Turner made decorative wall pieces including mirrors to be mass marketed for everyday purposes. The only value of these pieces is as d├ęcor and sentimental. As an art historian I can tell you that the painting is meant to evoke the pre-civil war era. The furnishings are American Empire style. The entire composition is very, very close in sentiment to the movie "Gone With the Wind" which is a 1930s look at the 1860s. While the furniture is reasonably well done please notice that the mantelpiece and window do not look like those in real Victorian interiors - but more like the stage sets from the 1930s in the movie. In fact the painter is either painting very ungainly architectural details or is simply not proficient in this area of painting. Note too that the woman's hair and face conform to a softer 20th Century standards of fashion and beauty rather than looking something like a stiff portrait of Queen Victoria - which would have been the norm for a real 1860s painting. This is an evocative piece but is most likely from the 1930s or so. According to the Turner family the original is owned by the family yet and if that is true you find a bonafid painting rather than the print of this it is a copy.


Kaye 6 months ago

I have this picture, my parents bought in the 40s.The picture is in the original frame, and its been hanging in their home, mine now since 1955.It has a brown paper backing. I love it

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