Photographers and the law – What can you do when they tell you “No cameras!!!”

We hear this stuff all too often

It happens every day. It happens every place in the country. It happens to everyone who points a camera at something worth photographing. It probably happened to you. I know that it has happened to me.

“You cannot take pictures here.”

“It's illegal to make photographs of that building.”

“It's against the law to photograph children who are not your own.”

“You need a permit to use your camera here.”

"Hand over your camera or that roll of film.”

“Erase the picture images from the camera's memory chip.”

What do you do when someone tells you something like those things listed above? Do you stop making photos? Do you apply for a picture-taking permit? Do you give up your camera or erase the contents of the camera's flash card? Do you think, “adults only?” What do you do?


Sufficient law enforcers to take care of any stray or disobedient photographer
Sufficient law enforcers to take care of any stray or disobedient photographer | Source
Hand over that camera
Hand over that camera | Source
Parent and child
Parent and child | Source
Privacy - a shower room
Privacy - a shower room | Source
Private house in view of the public
Private house in view of the public
PlazAmericas - a panoramic photo made from the safety of the sidewalk outside the shopping mall
PlazAmericas - a panoramic photo made from the safety of the sidewalk outside the shopping mall
Part of a nuclear power plant
Part of a nuclear power plant | Source
A public building paid for by taxpayers
A public building paid for by taxpayers

It depends

Telling things like they really are, the truth is that what you do “depends.” That is, your reactions to being commanded to stop your photography or to hand over your belongings or to limit your imaging subjects by not including children are all judgment calls on your part. The chances are very high that there is no federal, state, or local law that, under most circumstances, says “no photography here.” There is no law that I know of that allows someone to demand that you hand over your camera, hand over your film roll or flash memory card, or erase any images you have already recorded unless they are a law enforcement officer who has placed you under arrest or is acting under the authority of a valid court order.

I am not an attorney. I am not in law enforcement. I am not a professional photographer. I am, like most of you, just a private individual who likes to make photographs and to show them around. At the same time, however, I have been told (on many occasions) that I am not allowed to make photographs here, of that, now, in this place, of me, of these people, and so forth.

It happened to me some time ago

The first time it happened to me was back a few years when I was driving back to the military base on which I was then stationed. About midway of that drive I spotted a car partly sticking out of the roadside ditch. I recognized it as a car belonging to one of my friends. I stopped on the roadside and went over to the wrecked car, thinking to help my buddy if he were injured. The car was empty. A short distance up a driveway nearby, there was a state highway patrol car. I thought it somewhat strange that there were no flashing lights blinking away, but I went up to the patrol car to inquire about the accident. Inside the patrol car were my friend and a highway patrolman. Without a “Hello – what's going on here?” I pointed my camera at the pair and snapped a flashlight photograph.

It turns out that I should have used better judgment than to shoot first and ask later. The patrolman told me to hand over my camera. That camera, being the only one I owned, was not going to be handed over to anyone, not even an angry policeman. I meekly suggested that he take my roll of film instead of my camera. He agreed. I suggested to him that he be very careful of that roll of film and not open it up to the light, for I intended to retrieve the film from his supervisor “in the morning.”

The next day I telephoned the state police office and explained what had happened. While I was at it, it seemed likely to be productive to also inquire about the health and welfare of the patrolman. That done, the state police office promised to return my roll of film as soon as they could – unopened. And that is the way it happened. I was at work one morning when the Air Police commander telephoned and told me to come to his office where the regional boss of the state police was waiting to give me my roll of film – and “What, sergeant, is on that roll of film of such importance that the state police boss is here in person to give it to you?”

You learn when bitten

What are the lessons to be learned from that experience?

First, it is acceptable to make photographs of accident scenes as long as you do so without interfering with the situation or getting in the way of investigators or emergency personnel. Second, it is wise to ask permission of people singled out to be photographed before taking their pictures, particularly so when those people may not particularly want to be memorialized in photos.

Since that time, my rule has been to ask first and shoot later. To my knowledge, there is no law that says I must follow that sequence, but my head tells me that it would be smart to do things in that order.

Again – and just last week

Bringing history up from past times to the present, my most recent experience with “You cannot make photographs here...” came about just a week ago. I was about ready to snap some photographs of the buildings comprising a recently renovated shopping mall when I was approached by a security guard and his companion, a uniformed law enforcement officer. I was in the front part of the shopping mall's parking lot, a good spot from which to make photographs of all of the mall buildings. From those individual photos I was going to construct a wide screen panorama of the entire complex, and, being close in would provide each of the photos with a great deal of detail.

The security guard asked me what I was doing. I explained to him that I was getting ready to make some photographs of the mall buildings. He then asked me why I was planning on doing that. My explanation was simply that the photography was, more or less, for the practice of it. He asked me for whom was I working. I told him that I was not working for anyone or any company, but that I was making photos for myself. It was then that he told me that I could not photograph anything on the shopping mall unless I had authorization to do so from the mall's management.

After a little more conversation, I used his cell phone and began conversing with the management office about my desire to make photos of the mall and their seeming requirement that I get their permission to do so. Our conversation was interrupted when the security guard and his uniformed constable companion were called away to quell some sort of disturbance inside the mall buildings. Without permission to do my photography while within the mall grounds, I told the guard that I would leave the parking lot and do my photography from the city sidewalk about a quarter of a mile away from the mall. That's what I did.

Why did I “retreat” with no argument?

Think about it for a moment. If you are inside the yard of my house and I tell you that I do not want you to make closeup photos of my rose bushes, do I not have the right to refuse you permission to do so? Of course I do. I had no difficulty understanding that the shopping mall owners were within their rights to tell me not to make photos of their mall from within its bounds.

Had I refused to cease my photography, the security guard could have asked his law enforcement companion to arrest me for trespassing – simple as that. When I relocated to the city sidewalk outside of mall property, I could make as many photographs as I wanted to make.

Further, had the guard followed me to the sidewalk and, there, harassed me about my making of photographs of the shopping mall, I could have called the police and asked them to take charge of the fellow. He (and his mall manager bosses) had no authority they could exert outside of their own property - other than as private citizens, of course. As I expected, no one came out from the shopping mall to bother me as I snapped all of the photographs of the mall that I wanted to make.

Because I want to return to the shopping mall and make some more photos while closer to the buildings, I have contacted the management office to request their permission to do so. With my request went a copy of the panoramic photograph already completed, with the explanation that I desired to produce more detailed photographs “the next time.” I did not offer to provide them with any copies, but I did tell them that it was my intent to have the photos published in various places on the Internet. Fair enough, right?

What I now believe to be the way the photography laws really are

My understanding of whatever may be the formal laws, rules, and regulations related to when, where, and how a person can make photographs is that of a non-attorney. I have studied what others say about these things. Some of those information sources were attorneys and the like. Most of the information I found essentially told me the following:

1.There are very few national, state, or local laws that forbid making photographs of anything that exists in or on public property.

2. City streets, sidewalks, parks, beaches, and government buildings, monuments,and the like are examples of public properties.

3. Retail establishments, or any place that invites the public to enter, are considered to be “public places.”

4. Owners and managers of privately owned land and buildings generally have the right to dictate how visitors to their properties must comport themselves and as to what the rules are for behavior (and photography) while on or within the premises.

5. Military establishments almost always have complete control of photography within their boundaries and, sometimes, in the vicinity as well.

6. Some places restrict photography, whether or not they are public places. Some examples are power plants, vital transportation facilities, naval vessels, hospitals, churches, courthouses, and courtrooms.

7. “Sidewalk photography” can include anything visible to the photographer, but singling out one or a few individuals without their permission is probably legal but unwise. In addition, production of photographs of scenes of privacy-deserving subjects is against the rules. For example, using a telephoto lens to make photos of the inside of someone's private bedroom, or of some lady picking her nose after parking her car are photos you should not be making without permission, preferably written permission, from the subjects.

8. Children may be photographed just as adults may be photographed, whether or not they are your own children. However, if possible, it is a very good idea to first get permission from the parents or those in charge of the children. Think about it and you will see why this is so.

9. Photos of people who are in private situations or in areas where privacy is to be expected, such as showers, bathrooms, and so forth, are not to be produced.

10. The photographer should use good judgment when aiming the camera and mashing down on the exposure button. If it doesn't feel right, it probably isn't.

11. If a civilian, a security guard, or other employee or owner of some establishment tells you to stop making photographs while on “their” property you should be polite and listen to what they have to tell you. The chances are good that they are within their rights to request that you cease making photos from where you stand. To not cease photographing could make you liable to be charged with trespass. You could be arrested for that and brought to the jailhouse.

12. If a civilian, a security guard, or other employee or owner of some establishment tells you to hand over your camera, film, or the camera's little flash memory card, or to erase your already-recorded photos, you do not have to do so. The camera belongs to you. The photos within your camera belong to you. Those people do not have the authority to take anything away from you. That includes your camera, your tripod, your camera case, your films, your memory cards, and, of course, your underpants or your left shoe.

13. If a law enforcement officer asks you for any of those things, and if they are placing you under arrest, they can relieve you of whatever it is that you may have with you. Conversely, if you are not being arrested, they may take things from you only if they have a valid court order that tells them to do so.

14. In the event that a non-law-enforcement person is harassing you about your photography and threatens you with arrest, bodily harm, detention, or some equally bad form of misery, they may be making themselves liable for prosecution or for court suit themselves. You have need to remain calm, polite, and understanding of your rights. As one advisor suggested, take names, get the names and locations of the employer, if any, and ask if you might leave the premises – in peace, that is. If not, then ask what they are going to do to keep you from leaving. Record the answers by one method or another

Winning and losing – Do you make big wars out of little battles?

There is little need to make mountains out of molehills when it comes to where and when a person can pursue the making of photographs. Photographers do have more rights to produce their images than many people believe. Most of the time it will be enough to calmly explain what you are doing to those who may not want you to be photographing things. When that is not enough, often the “taking of names” will be enough win the day for the photographer. If not, it may be best to simply cease the camera work and leave the area.

It is possible that your presence in that place for purposes of photography is a once in a lifetime sort of affair. If the person doing the objecting is harassing, coercing, threatening, or being truly obnoxious, it would not be very greatly amiss to whip out a cell phone and dial up the law yourself. Two can make complaints as well as can one.

But, before doing that, you should truly know that you are in the right to do so. In other words, there is little profit for you to know that you are in the right while you lie there on the ground with a broken nose and a smashed camera. Worse yet, if you are in the wrong, you might not be hauled off to the emergency room at the hospital for a nose job, but to the local jail for a night on the town.

Just a few of many more photography references

Here are some information sources for those who want to learn more than I did. Have fun reading. Make beautiful photographs. Don't tell anyone that I told you what to do. It would be acceptable, however, that you tell folks what I told you not to do. Yes. That would be all right.

I recommend that you “cut and paste” these photography law references in order to enter them into your computer. Some are quite lengthy, making it easy to miss a letter or a punctuation mark, etc. The first reference is one from which you can download a handy printout of a few of the more important photography rules and practices. It is big enough to give you plenty of information, but short enough to be good for making a printout to carry with you in your photographic journeys.

www.krages.com/phoright.htm

http://photographybay.com/photography-laws

http://content.photojojo.com/tips/legal-rights-of-photographers

www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how-to/computer-security/taking-photos-in-public-places-is-not-a-crime


http://lifehacker.com/5688057/know-your-rights-ten-misconceptions-about-photography-law

www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20111125-editorial-know-photography-laws-when-security-is-an-issue-ece

http://communications-media.lawyers.com/privacy-law/Child-Photography-or-Videotaping-Consent-Laws-Are-Changing.html
(watch the upper case letters on some words)

www.prosphotos.com/Photography_Laws/page-1.html?s=H
(watch the upper case letters and the underline between Photography and Laws)

This article does not enter into discussions of dissemination of the photographs produced by you as a photographer. Publication (any showing) of your photographs, copywriting of them, public and private displays, and so forth, are not involved in the right of the photographer to actually produce his or her photos other than possible intent. For that reason, what the photographer does with any photographs generated would be a subject for articles other than this one.

Some of the photographs I stuck in with this article have somewhat of a passing bit to do with the contents of the article – but one – the panoramic photo of the PlazAmerica shopping mall is the photo I made last week from the sidewalk around the shopping mall. The rest of the images are here to bolster up a point or two and to brighten the article with some splashes of bright color.

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David Campeau Jr profile image

David Campeau Jr 3 years ago from Pennsylvania

This is a very well written Hub with good common sense tips for any photographer. Personally, I am a little bit more bullheaded and would have continued to take pictures of the mall unless it had been clearly posted in the parking lot that photography is prohibited. I wouldn't be worried about getting arrested because if it was a wrongful arrest, I could sue, get some compensation, and teach the officer a lesson about his job.

By the way, the panoramic photo is very cool!


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

David (David Campeau Jr ) - Thanks for those very kind comments. I understand that there maybe should have been signs posted around telling folks that no photography was allowed without authorization, but I did not know that there were or were not such signs. Suppose there were bunches of signs like those, but I had not seen any - my problem. Then to disobey the guard and to continue making pictures, he had the constable right there and the constable could have arrested me for trespassing then and there. I'm to old to enjoy incarceration, preferring celebration instead. :-)

Thanks for enjoying the article. "Peggy W" as she is known to those on HubPages, put me up to sticking the thing together. That is why I like the hub, too.

Merry Christmas.

Gus :-)))


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UnnamedHarald 3 years ago from Cedar Rapids, Iowa

This is an awesome hub. You are so right about things not being black and white, but my understanding is: what you've stated is pretty accurate. But the BEST advice you give is to STAY COOL. An angry individidual, policeman, security guard, etc may not be within their rights but you may have to deal with the consequences of illegal or simply mistaken behavior. Everyone taking pictures should read this.


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

David (UnnamedHarald) - Thank you very much for your kind comments. I am reminded of a GI slang expression that we used a lot back in days of t he military - "Keep a cool tool in the motor pool." that seemed to work OK back then and probably would do well today, too.

Keep warm and have fun today...

Gus :-)))


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epigramman 3 years ago

oh my goodness Sir Gus you are such a marvelous writer and you always inspire me with your unique stylings of wit and truth.

I so do wish my dad were alive to have read your writing -he would have loved your work as his son surely does.

This piece has inspired to write one about Area 52 - called Hotel Area 53: where you go for a holiday but never come back. lol

Sending you sincere warm wishes for your continued health, happiness and prosperity in the new year and a Merry Christmas from Colin and his cats at lake erie time 4:09pm canada


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

"epi" - May the Grinch of the holidays never visit you, at home or in Area 52/53. As to your Dad reading stuff, it is my thought that he might have, despite his wisdom of having a son and his attempts to bring the kid up appropriately, taken a board to your nether region in light of some of your racier reading stuff. We may enjoy it, but I believe your Dad to have been of a different era than his less elegant son and me, his son's friend of Internet inelegance.

Wit and truth is it? One might come to wonder if those two things could ever meet. I believe that the resulting explosion would mimic that which occurs when an electron meets up with a positron. In physics, the reaction is termed "disintegration." Wit and truth - most often incompatible forces, just like electrons and positrons.

Merry Christmas Good Buddy !!!!!

Gus :-)))


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epigramman 3 years ago

...and the record, Sir Gus, my dad was a total gentleman but he would have loved my racier stuff - he was a veteran in World War II as a Canadian soldier for six years - and he's seen a lot - lol

I will check back in with you later on in the week - have a nice holiday time yourself - Mister C/lake erie time 7:31pm


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

"epi" - Rest assured that it is my belief that your Dad had a full complement of Daytona-bones in his well-traveled body. A writer he was, too, from all that you reported. I think you mentioned his production of 70 or so novels. The only bone that I would possibly pick with your Dad relates to those Canadian Air Force "10BX" exercises that we had to do and to qualify with all the time. They were not the easiest of them all...

Gus :-)))


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drbj 3 years ago from south Florida

Excellent and very complete information, Gus, for any photographer on how to stay cool (and not jailed) while taking photos. I remember once getting ready to take pictures of some very picturesque folks living in a small village - I think it was in Greece - and was informed it would be a gross misjudgment. Those particular folks believed that a photograph could capture their soul. Certainly would not want to be responsible for that! Since then, like you, I always ask for permission if I want to take a photo of a person(s).

Hope you had a merry Christmas. Know you will have a very happy New Year. I have spoken!


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rebeccamealey 3 years ago from Northeastern Georgia, USA

This is very good stuff to know. Thanks for your explanation of a public place. Very helpful Hub. Voted useful!


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

Good Doctor bj - Thanks for the great comments. You had a fine experience in Greece - "photo," of course, is a word of Greek origin, so that was fitting as to the place of your visitation, but possibly contrary to the reaction of those native Greeks. Maybe they did not know of their own etymological "invention. :-)

You know what really surprises me about this photography and the law stuff? It is that there is such an amount of fuss over picture-snapping while, at the same time, there is so little an amount of actual law (other than the 1st Amendment to the Constitution) covering it. Interesting.

Gus :-)))


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

Howdy Rebecca (rebeccamealey) - Just think, Rebecca - now you and I can go around and tell everyone that we are "know-it-alls." :-)

(Don't we wish that were true - or even possible?)

I hope that this article is of help to lots of people, particularly writers with cameras.

Gus :-)))


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Fossillady 3 years ago from Saugatuck Michigan

Hi Gus, I take a lot of photographs of nature and rarely of buildings and the such so haven't come across these issues. Nevertheless, it's probably a good thing to know the laws about what you can or should not photograph. Thanks for this interesting article! I learnt someth'n there partner! Hee


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

Hi Kathi (Fossillady) - Learning stuff is always useful to a body - and, thus, I am pleased to perhaps have been a bit of help to you and to others, too. I guess that making pix of nature is just really fine as long as you do so OF nature that sits on public land, etc., but only by permission when you are standing on someone's "personal" nature. Things can be a wee bit confusing from time to time. Kinda makes me wonder if a person can "own" a view of nature seen from their front yard (or the like). Think about that one. Ouch.

Gus :-)))


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B. Leekley 3 years ago from Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA

Up, Useful, Interesting, and shared with followers. This is a very interesting article.

Several years ago I was the text editor of a church website and helped decide policy on photos. My research indicated that while taking photos of people in public places and at public events is generally legal, it is prudent and considerate to ask permission before posting close-on shots of individuals, particularly children.

I had a camera that swiveled, so that I could look down at the viewfinder. People didn't realize I was taking pictures. Unfortunately the rechargeable battery is worn out and not made any more.

Chicago has a ridiculous law about photographing cops, with a 15 year penalty. Google on Chicago photography laws.


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

Good Morning Brother Leekley (B. Leekley) - Your "looking down" into your camera's viewfinder is an interesting aspect of making photos without the subjects realizing what you are up to. That is much as folks do with their cell phone cameras today - they make photos while seeming to converse on the little cell phones.

As to that Chicago ordinance versus cop photographing - from what I read, such a law is directly counter to the freedoms preserved by the U.S. constitution's 1st Amendment. Maybe it pertains to not interfering with police activities. Worth a look. Thanks.

Gus :-)))


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

A followup to B.Leekley's above comment -

Here is what i found by a Google for: "Photography ordinances Chicago" (which gave more links than did "...laws chicago") -

*** [[[" We usually have little tolerance for the press. They and police are constantly at odds. Here’s what we are disturbed by:

“Anzaldi was charged with obstruction against a peace officer after he refused to stop filming an investigation of an incident involving an off-duty police officer who shot and killed a man trying to rob him Tuesday night.

But the initial order for him to stop filming came from a civilian, a police spokesperson named Monique Bond who is not even a police officer. A flack without a badge.”

Um, it would seem that this political hack just put a sergeant, a detective and two PO’s in the trick bag. Ordering a photographer arrested? On private property? We foresee a large payout from the taxpayers based on Monique’s interpretation of law.

Read more at http://www.pixiq.com/article/chicago-police-blog-s..." ]]]***

Interesting conflict going on here - Gus :-)))


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glassvisage 3 years ago from Northern California

This is a great idea for a Hub. I feel that I encounter this the most when I visit tourist attractions; for instance, in New York when visiting TV studios, we had an orientation prior to the tour of the studio, and I tried to hear if they said anything about photography being prohibited but heard nothing, so I took some photos but was told after being seen by the guide a bit later that I had to erase them. I like that you emphasize a level of responsibility on the photographer. Thanks for sharing!


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

Hello GV (glassvisage) - Thank you very much for the interesting comments about your TV studio experience. It is probably not too unusual for entertainment industry folks to want visitors to not make photos of their studios and of their presentations. They use those things to earn their livings. From what I have read thus far, however, once you record your photos in your camera, they are yours and no one can make you erase them unless by contract or by court order. You may not be able to use them however you would prefer, but you should be able to keep them without any interference. It is, as you believe, a matter for the photographer to handle appropriately.

Thanks for the read and the compliment. Actually, the idea for doing this hub was that of Hubber, Peggy W.

Gus :-)))


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RealHousewife 3 years ago from St. Louis, MO

Hey thanks for this Gus...I like dabbling in photography and I've always asked first if I wasn't sure. I also was in a public place once and I snapped a photo and these guys started chasing me! Telling me I couldn't take their photo ... My husband was sitting in our car thank goodness it was running!

When I got home I looked at my pictures on the big screen, it looked like I caught a drug deal by mistake! OMG!! No wonder they were chasing me huh?


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

Hi Kelly (RealHousewife) -

You are welcome to the info. I found the research for this article to be quite interesting. That's a funny story about shooting pix of an ongoing drug deal. :-) Good thing that you are a good and fast runner !

I can understand why some folks are camera-shy, even when they aren't peddling dope. I'm sorta that way myself, but not to the point where I get vocal about things. Asking is polite, just like your own practice has been, but the fact is that if someone is out in public they are fair game - at least most of the time. Asking is a good thing to do if they are "singled out" for your camera lens.

Have fun snapping pix.

Gus :-)))


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Ralph Deeds 3 years ago

I've taken hundreds of pictures inside our local mall despite being stopped once by a guard and told that pictures weren't allowed in the mall. I've seen a fair number of other people taking pictures also, especially of the elaborate Christmas decorations. I don't stick my camera in people's faces, but I've taken a fair number of pictures of people with a long lens. I ask permission before taking pictures inside a shop. Some say yes, others no. Victoria's Secret does not allow pictures inside their store. That reminds me of when I missed the picture of a lifetime--of three or four Muslim women, all in hijabs, who stopped in front of the Victoria's Secret store and were peering at the racy underwear displayed on near-naked mannequins. They moved on before I could get on the otherside of them to take a picture of them from behind staring at the Victoria's Secret merchandise in the store window. (I've made several hubs of photos taken in the mall at Christmas.)

Anyway, nice hub and good advice.


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

Howdy Ralph (Ralph Deeds) - Not only have you made hundreds of pix inside the local mall, but you have authored a ton of hubs here on HubPages. I am pleased and grateful to you for visiting my hub here and providing us all with so useful a comment. Thanks.

The photos thought of by the Victoria's Secret place would have been quite a study. Too bad the gals moved on before you could get into a good photo-making position.

I think that a problem I made for myself with a mall security guard was due to my attempted use of a tripod for the camera. Probably that spoke to the guy that I was a professional of some sort, and that tasked him to toss my old bones out of the immediate mall area. I got pretty much the results I wanted from off of the premises by simply collecting the scenes I wanted in the first place by using the telephoto lens of the camera. Another red flag for the guy was probably the size of the camera I was wielding - it was really large.

Thanks again for your visit and for your comment.

Gus :-)))


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Christoph Reilly 3 years ago from St. Louis

Exactly right, Gus. I have run up against this many times in my job as a journalist. I would add, strictly as a policy of the news outlets I have worked for, never take pictures of children without parents permission. Especially traveling, particularly in South America, where kidnapping is a more common occurrence.


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Ralph Deeds 3 years ago

Another comment--when I take pictures of other people or children at a mall or at our local farmer's market I try to take pictures that make them look attractive, not like the WalMart shots of wierd people one sees on the Internet. I've never had an objection from anyone about a picture I've taken with or without permission. I do ask permission when the picture is of one individual or a parent and child, and I've never been refused. I did have a request to remove a couple of photos (that weren't mine) from my Hub on Robo Rachel phone calls (Credit Card Services) from a guy and his brother who have been accused but not convicted of violating the law. I complied with his request as I would do if anyone requested I take down their photo.


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

Hi Christoph (Christoph Reilly) - I am so very pleased to again see your friendly name and avatar on one of my several article pages. (Made me most happy...)

Great comment about those policies of the news outlets toward photographing children. I never realized that kidnapping was such a problem in South America, but now I know about that, too.

Isn't it remarkable good fun to keep on learning stuff, like for me, even when the brain is both shrinking and hardening? :-)

Have fun today, Christoph !

Gus :-)))


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

Hello Ralph (Ralph Deeds) -

It is really great to have widely and long-experienced photographers attend my little article here - kinda like a trip to some sort of keyboard paradise. :-)

I read an interesting article the other day that probably fits into your own experiences in photographing kids and other individuals from whom you requested permission to memorialize with your camera. The article related to "giving helps you to get." There was meat in that article that seemed to be worth swallowing, so I tried out a bite of it myself. I had some costly maintenance done on my truck yesterday. The shop is run by some good folks, honest and helpful as can be. I've known them as suppliers and as friends for years - however I get no special pricing on any work they do for me. Anyway - and also some time ago - I put together a CD containing 101 "dumb poems" and the Al Kaeppel illustrations on each page to go with them. I gave the auto repair shop a copy before they started their work on the truck. The price to me was about 2/3 of what it should have been that day. "Give and get" works OK.

I'd bet "give and get" helped you to receive permission to make photos of the individual subjects you singled out. Even giving a smile and maybe a serious business card would do the trick.

Ralph - You have fun today, too, OK?

Gus :-)))


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cclitgirl 3 years ago from Western NC

This is an awesome hub! I take lots of photos, but generally considered them to be public places. I've always been scared of taking pictures of people - I just don't want to go there, lol. I love how you spell everything out. :)


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

Howdy Cyndi (cclitgirl) -

I am happy that you thought well of this article. Hubber "Peggy W." thought that I might make a go of the thing...

Talk about being scared of photographing people around and about... I was in old Mexico once and snapped a photo of a peddler and his donkey cart on the street. He got really angry and began to throw rocks and mud at me. :-)

Thanks for the read. I guess that lots of folks have plenty of questions about what they can and cannot do with their picture-making. My own idea is that if you don't know what to do or not to do, God gave you the ability to ask. Right?

Gus :-)))


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sallybea 3 years ago from Norfolk

I don't think the issue is so much about us taking photos of buildings. It may be that some of the people who own the buildings seem to want exclusive right to images taken of them so they can sell them later! Could taking photos of them be a security risk? Makes one smile when you think that you can go onto Google Earth and even see your car parked outside your own house - so how much can we see of those buildings?

My concern is much more for parents all over the world who are been denied the right to take images of their own children at a school nativity play!

Men in particular are sometimes even afraid to take photos of their own children in a public places, Some even feel uncomfortable to be seen with a little grandchild on their own, especially if the child is kicking and screaming in a public place.!!! The whole world has gone mad.

Perhaps it is time we all stood up to this bureaucracy!!


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GusTheRedneck 3 years ago from USA Author

Hi Sallybea -Your comment here shows that you are not only observant, but that you are very wise. I believe that a combination like that is a rare one, but it makes a person REALLY smile when encountered out there in the rest of the unobservant and unwise world. Betcha you would be a great addition to our Redneck crowd. Welcome !

Gus :-)))


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sallybea 3 years ago from Norfolk

GusTheRedneck - now, that's an interesting one! Thanks for the lovely welcome and the compliments too!!

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