Which new or used car suits you?

New or used which is best for you?

For some car buyers the choice has always been clear in the past......

They will buy a new car.

Why?

  • They have bought the same make of new car every year or two regardless and have been happy with their choice so far. (This may need a re-think.)
  • They trade up to the latest model through a buy back contract with the same dealership where they get a fixed trade in price for their car at a set time or mileage.
  • They have been buying the same make of car for years now, they are happy with it, they enjoy driving it and the new one has something more to offer than the old model.
  • They have used the same dealership for years and are comfortable with the service and make no matter what they sell.

New car buyers beware! Things have changed.

  1. Many big well respected brands are no longer being made by the original manufacturer and are being outsourced entirely.
  2. the quality of warranty and service has often dropped off as a result of the mechanics working on and servicing unfamiliar "branded" vehicles. Vehicles now manufactured in another country and not understood or respected by your local service mechanics often get second rate service.
  3. A financier or banker is deciding the next model to be made, and some guys in a third world country is then assembling it to cut costs further.

The other question remains for me ........., were these one brand new car buyers getting a great car and service every time after the smaller companies got swallowed up? ... or are they as green as grass and being shredded for thousands of dollars yearly?

Do they put it down to a run of bad luck when they suddenly need a new motor for their Renault because the dealer lied about changing the timing belt at the appropriate mileage because it is near impossible to get to it and change it?

Is it OK to expect the valves to get embedded in the pistons with under 100,000 on the clock because of bad new car service or pay extra for an inherent stupid design like in the case of one European maker who uses motors in many of their cars where the cam belt is buried behind two casings?

Up to $1200 dollars to change a timing belt on one of these !

With a propensity to dump the cam chain tensioner at 30,000klms, it probably needs the cam-belt replaced every three years or 30,000 klms to be assured of not destroying the motor when the cam chain tensioner dies. That is ......... if you don't lose a motor through running it dry because of poor re-assembly by the mechanic taking shortcuts. Happens all the time.

The idea is to avoid buying one of these puppies in the first place!

Some people will accept almost any level of service or new car problem but with knowledge you don't have to accept poor design or servicing is what I'm saying here.

VW Bug and babe

SS100 Jaguar (Swallow)

The very early Jaguar Then called a Swallow SS100
The very early Jaguar Then called a Swallow SS100

The motor industry now.

Personally I don't believe in the tooth fairy, and the above scenario mostly fits people who would not know a piston from a piss-tin and think their kids will never try alcohol.

Look it happens, there are good dealerships who fully support their customer when the new car they bought has serious problems, but bloody rarely since they are now servicing far too many "branded" vehicles!

A bit of slack can be cut for some of them, I can't recall any make of car that has not made some mistakes, but so many are dead set lemons for one of a dozen reasons in today's ever changing automotive industry.

I have a few things I reckon are worth pondering before you part with all that money for a new car today.

Firstly you should be aware by now that the motor industry has been torn to shreds, with old brand names like Jaguar and so many others being manufactured by companies in countries that are pretty new to making quality high end cars.

Jaguar which was all hand crafted back when it was the transport of well healed Englishmen is now in the hands of the world's largest auto maker Tata in India.

I do not expect to see Jaguar become a legend again soon, and suspect the name will die along with all the others that have fallen by the wayside, or have come to represent something entirely out of step with their origins.

Honda Accord Euro

The Honda Accord Euro is a very well made economical mid sized car. Seats 5
The Honda Accord Euro is a very well made economical mid sized car. Seats 5

Which new car to buy in today's market?

Honda.

Anyone who knows my background will know that I have owned quite a few Honda cars and bikes, and worked on many, building and rebuilding their motors for racing motorcycles and doing countless services and preventative maintenance on their cars.

Two major factors I consider to be good reasons for buying a new Honda ...... Reliability and minimal design faults.

Honda mechanical design and layout is good for long term ownership too, with easy servicing and high quality components. Plastic covers and wiring layouts are superbly designed, which means much easier re-assembly without plastic breakage and frustration in the workshop.

Used Honda resale values are very high for this reason amongst others. Brakes, exhaust and other major consumables are easy to service and long lasting as well.

The company is in stable ownership and spare parts are seldom a problem.

I have to say Honda have made a couple of poor design decisions like the rear hatch lock on the "breeze", the arm rests on the early "City Pro T", or "Life" as it was marketed in America, the fuel pumps on some early accords come to mind as well, but there have been others.

The same design fault list for many other brands is exhaustive, and I may write another hub about that too!

Tough, well built.

The amazing Imprezza
The amazing Imprezza

Subaru

Subaru are owned by Fuji Heavy Engineering company, and what many may not know, is that they built high quality motor scooters back in the 1960's as well as machinery and other vehicles.

Their scooter was called a "Rabbit" and the 250cc "Rollermatic" .. (terrible name) had the best automatic transmission on any motor scooter available in the world in my view. The machine was beautifully designed and very comfortable and fast.

Like the Rabbit, the boxer or flat four cylinder motor design that Subaru decided on for their cars, and ran for so many years got better with time, but was always remarkably reliable.

The early air-cooled Volkswagen and Porche had boxer motors too and they were good also. The Porsche having superior crankcases, proven by VW's cases misaligning after one too many rebuilds.

The Subaru engine is very well engineered. I believe up to the standard of the famous "Goldwing" Honda motor in their touring bike range. I have owned two of these bikes, and the motor is near indestructible and beautifully supported and aligned crankcases is the secret to longevity in both the Honda and Subaru motors.

Works of art both of them. Not just likeable engineering, Lick-able engineering! Some metal is just so beautifully treated it makes me want to lick it!

I got to love so many alloys in my youth from my fathers love of melding metals. This was heavily re-enforced by my motorcycle experience, especially moto cross bikes when all the magnesium alloys and dural components got their start in motorcycle racing.

Subaru's earliest model cars still keep going, and their standard of engineering has always been exemplary as demonstrated by the longevity of their products and the associated reputation the company enjoys world-wide and especially in Japan.

The company has stable ownership and few spare parts problems.

The current line up are well designed, well proven products with a strong resale value and long life.

Their "Forester" is a fine vehicle, and the other models including the super fast WRX are now very strong. There were some weaknesses in the drive train of the WRX, but they are sorted now. As for their sedans? I like them very much.

Nicer ride than many other cars in their class too.

BMW Mini

BMW

BMW have been very innovative of late getting great fuel economy and low emissions from their petrol and diesel engines.

The 5 series has been a favourite car of mine since being presented with one the first time in Malaysia, where I used a top of the range with the little 2 litre motor allowed in Malaysia.

It went very well despite the small motor size, and I later drove the same car with a 4 litre V8. It was very sweet, with a great engine management system that provided an idle Rolls Royce would have been proud of.

The company is stable, makes the excellent BMW Mini replica and their flagship sedan is probably one of the worlds best. BMW parts can be expensive, and sometimes delays are experienced with drive shaft components and other technical parts that are not commonly replaced otherwise spare parts are fine.

The complex computer reporting is very good and also provides an accurate history of the cars past problems when purchased used. Sensors servos and electronics are reliable and well integrated, well made and long-lasting.

I would not buy a top of the range BMW new. If you are cautious you can save 30- 50k on new price for a current series with little mileage.

The smaller BMW sedans, rag tops and coupes have strong proven drive trains and are well sorted. I would not be so keen on their Z4 as it has a history of drive train problems, mainly a weak clutch and some gearbox problems only reported by people who tried to drive them hard, but not a good sign.

R8 Audi behind the wheel

Driving position is superb in the R8.The seats are supportive yet soft, almost wrapping around you. The seating comfort is just superb, with good lumber support. The position and seat height very good. Side support is excellent allowing you to pull s
Driving position is superb in the R8.The seats are supportive yet soft, almost wrapping around you. The seating comfort is just superb, with good lumber support. The position and seat height very good. Side support is excellent allowing you to pull s

Audi R8

Audi

If you can afford an Audi you probably won't be disappointed. I do not like their little 2 door "TT" much as it looks better than it delivers, I first drove the early model which sounded great but was downright gutless!

The bigger donk helps, but it is no more exciting to drive than a Renault sports car, which I find dead boring.

The rest of the range is very nice, the 8 is absolutely first class to drive, if a little firmer than you might expect in the suspension. The power is awesome as are brakes and handling.

The company is owned by VW, (not a bad thing necessarily,) but too much movement in the camp for me to be confident in this brand's future.

The cockpit in the 8 is a drivers dream of placement... up to a point.

Looking ahead through the beautifully sculptured steering wheel, the vital information is right where it should be, but the fine dials although classy are too hard to take in at a glance compared to some much cheaper rides, not great in my book, more readable dials would help.

To your side are a jumble of controls as messy as any of the other top priced cars, so no win there. But to drive? Beautiful!

The 8 is throaty, fast, smooth and quiet. It reeks of class, but the interior although great in some ways with superb seats, just is not what it should be. The interior design looks modern but the layout feels a bit dated to me.

Hyundai Genesis coupe

Hyundai have come a long way with the genesis coupe showing the opposition some sassy styling..
Hyundai have come a long way with the genesis coupe showing the opposition some sassy styling..

Hyundai.

Yep! A Korean in here! The Hyundai range was basically the old Mitsubishi drive train originally and was a bit weak. The drive train on many models inherited weaknesses from their designers and they were not something you wanted to keep too long!

Their small car named the "excel" in Australia has always been fairly good. Not flash but good basic transport.

Their Sonata 4 was a dog in my view. I bought a new one and sold it at 35,000 klms as I could feel both the motor and transmission were no longer crisp. First signs of a "soft" car.

The transmission gave trouble from day one, and continued to miss-change all the time I owned it.

I sorted it before I sold it, but got nowhere until I spoke to the CEO for Australasia and they sorted it in one day.

I had been telling them for over a year. Throw the bloody valve assemblies away and fit real ones!

The newer Hyundai is another matter, challenging Japan with good assembly and quality materials they have come a long way. Although very good and getting better, they are not a Honda, no where near it. You get what you pay for if you're lucky, and you can get lucky with one of their vehicles by getting a lot for your dollar.

Good for the money.

I would buy a new one, and have even bought one of their KIA Carnival people carriers for my daughter. I reckon it is no Honda either, not by a long stroke!

It feels soft. It is like the Hyundai used to be. Average build quality, OK interior, noisy overworked little motor, soft transmission.

Dead in 5 years I reckon. It was cheap though and it was a stop gap!


Toyota Volta

Toyota.

I would not buy a Toyota at this time despite their great track record and some great cars, they are in so much trouble over safety, and I would suggest quality control could be a problem.

It has always been my belief that the current jamming accelerator problems are electronic and may be near impossible to trace. I do not trust the explanations made by the company, but watch this space. At some time they will have to solve the problem of stuck accelerators and we may find out the truth.

To be honest I am not a fan of either the new Corolla or the Camry either for that matter!

I hate the way the Corolla feels under hard acceleration! It has far too much throttle steer. Much more than most of it's other front wheel drive competitors and the motor performance is ordinary as well. It feels too heavy and lifeless to me.

The Camry I have issues with the exhaust rotting out too soon and some niggling design faults, but mostly it is just dead boring!

2011 RX7 Mazda

Mazda.

Since I first drove a Mazda in 1967 I have had a love hate relationship with their idiosyncrasies. I am not a Mazda offionada because of this bias, and have only worked on a half dozen or so of their vehicles.

Their little 1500 was very pretty with a body design by Bertone, the same people who designed the beautiful Alfa Romeo Veloce and the beautiful "boat tail" spider.

The Mazda 1500 had those same  lovely soft lines, so modern at the time. The look aged well, the motors not so well. They had a habit of needing a lot of valve clearance adjustment for a single overhead camshaft motor, and piston oil ring life was a bit short.

Mazda made some great innovations like oscillating air vents, and interior niceties, but usually were relatively low in power output and fairly heavy for their engine performance.

Very early Mazdas always felt like they needed another half a litre of engine size to me.

Some of the early 2.4L coupes had ignition problems mainly caused by the combination of a high powered coil and a weak black-box on the distributor, otherwise a strong well made coupe.

The RX4, R100 rotarys were an interesting idea though, and very fast! The RX7 was a legend in it's time, but the rotary has never been sorted since it's introduction by Wenkel in the ugliest of cars ever seen in this country the NSU RO80. They died enmasse from oil seal failure until Mazda purchased the licence to use the design and solve the problem...... to a degree. They still had problems with engine life, and were far too thirsty,

The new Mazda although not my choice, would seem to be well sorted out in general and well made. They have some great concept cars including a 3 cylinder turbo of one litre that should get close to 100mpg. They are doing great things, I just suspect that others are doing it better.

I have fallen out with the body styling on Mazdas from time to time. They have made some ugly mothers again lately, sorry Mazda lovers, I just am not a huge fan.


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Randy Godwin 6 years ago from Southern Georgia

This article just hit home, Earnest! My wife, the judge, (when she became a judge I realized there WAS a chance for me to become president) just spent a bundle because her timing belt broke on her Miata.

Yep, bent valves was the result of the breakage. I wouldn't have that little piss-ant car. But the women all think they look good in a convertible with their hair blowin' in the breeze!

Ah women, can't live without em, can't kill em!


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creativeone59 6 years ago from Gold Canyon, Arizona

Thank you ErnestShub fo giving us the heads up on new and used cars. I appreciate you and your efforts. Godspeed. creativeone59


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Hi Randy! Still not allowed to kill em there too eh?

It will get harder for people to make good choices going forward if someone doesn't spill the beans and let the public know who is who in the industry now. Some are gonna buy the wrong car otherwise, and wind up with pistons and valves being far too intimate!


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agvulpes 6 years ago from Australia

Wow earnestshub seeing all of this information in the one place certainly hits home the 'badging' that goes on in the motor industry. Great Hub and definitely worth a thumbs up!


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Candie V 6 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

I love your hubs when your sense of humor shines through!

I would agree with the Subaru analysis. I've owned 3 and want another. The last one I had was 7 years old and had 260,000 miles on it. I commuted 75 miles each way to work, in the snow it was incredible!

I had a fair understanding of who makes who, but you gave me a couple of new ones - didn't know who owned Mini! Thanks Earn!


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Hello, hello, 6 years ago from London, UK

I couldn't believe some of the information of who built which car. It just shows. Thank you for a well put together hub.


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thanks agvulpes, I can see more of the older now less famous names disappearing and it will not just be badges that go, so will some of the manufacturers eventually.


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agvulpes 6 years ago from Australia

earnesthub, you got me thinking what new car I would buy, I don't mind the Honda Jazz and I've been turned right off Toyota. So my thinking at the moment is to have a good hard look at the Hyundai i30, it is a small car with great features like 6 airbags, great economy, comes with a 5 year unlimited Km warranty and is selling here in Melbourne at sub $20k drive away. What more could you want?


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qwark 6 years ago

Hey Earn:

I've never owned a new car or truck.

What a waste of $!

I own a '97 dodge 1500 ram with the 360 engine....got 0ver 300 grand on it.

I love my truck!

If the motor dies I'll probably buy a Jasper long block and continue on...:-)

Good info tho for the "sucker" new car buyer.

You know yer stuff.


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Obscurely Diverse 6 years ago from Tennessee, U.S., Earth, Milky Way via Cosmos

I think the best deal overall, is to buy a vehicle that is 2 years of age or older. The market value significantly drops during the first year, so you'd either have to be stupid, spoiled, a sucker, or 'have the money to spend' to want to buy new. Personally, I like to just patch up the old models...ya know, the ones you can still work on. They have complicated so many of the new models in such a way, you can barely change a spark plug! Good hub... :)


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Candie you are a smart young lady aren't you?

The Subaru was a great choice, especially with your climate.

Plenty of traction, plenty of room inside, economical.

With a good driver they will go almost anywhere!


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mintinfo 6 years ago

Very informative hub Earnest. I have owned several different makes of cars over the years, some new ,some used. I have a 07 Nissan now and it's the best car I have owned. It was almost 2yrs old when I bought it and have had it almost 2yrs now. I maintain the basic service and have not had any trouble with it (yet).


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Quark, those old 360 blocks last a long time. The only way you will kill it is to overheat it.

You need to convert the thirsty old girl to gas though, You need a gas fitters license to fit it up, but the job itself is dead easy.


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thanks mintinfo, I run an old 05 2.4L 12 valve Nissan ute. The little motor goes well, and it has a tall overdrive for the highway.

It is rated at one tonne carrying capacity and the 2.4 works hard when loaded. I used it for moving garage equipment, but have stripped the lifting gear and panels off it to use as a spare vehicle. It has been ultra reliable.


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qwark 6 years ago

Hey Earn:

it is gas and it's hard to believe, but on the road in overdrive, not pullin' anything I'm gettin' 18 - 19 mpg on the long hauls!

Yer right about the engine. That block is "bulletproof."

My old 350 chevy engine was also "hard to kill." Wonderful engine!

Were, or are ya an auto mech?


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Hey agvulpes! That is hard to argue with, especially the price.


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Yep love the 350 and the 327 was common here, also bullet proof.

I was a motor mechanic, and went ton to run my own workshops and retail outlets for 30 years.

Lots of racing experience. Cylinder head and manifold/exhaust design/ building racing motors, designing chassis and suspension, lot's more. Long story!


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Candie V 6 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

Ernest! It's great to see your score jump up! Wonderful!


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thank you lovely lady! I keep adding to it, soon it will be 3 hubs!


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Obscurely Diverse, thank you for your comment. I must admit I would rather replace a needle and seat in a carburettor than track down a sensor malfunction or computer error!


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qwark 6 years ago

Earn:

I'm convinced! you know yer stuff...:-)


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blondepoet 6 years ago from australia

You pack a great hub Earnest. This was so well explained even I understood the whole lot. Thumbs up baby!!!


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thank you BP I needed the approval of a non petrol head. I am so glad it was readable.


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Springboard 6 years ago from Wisconsin

There is a fair amount of confusion these days with who makes who, and how much they really can bring to the table with a brand that used to be owned by someone else. Jaguar is a very good example of that. Ford basically turned it into a nothing special car (and I'm a big Ford fan), and now that Tata owns it I think it's even less special. Tata is know for something else besides buying Jag from Ford...they are the maker of the world's cheapest car. lol That's quite a stretch from that to Jag.

Not sure how it is in Australia—mainly because I don't think you guys have an auto manufacturer—but in America there is some interest in how much of our car is built in our own country.

Ford, Chrysler and GM are about 73% US made parts and manufacturing. Nissan is around 46-47%. Toyota 48%. And Honda is around 59%. Not sure about the others, but my guess is that they are considerably smaller percentages US made parts and manufacturing.

As for my typical buying habits, I like buying used vs. new. Partly because I drive my cars to the bolts, and because I like the front-end savings you get when you buy a model that's even just 12 months old.


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Nice informed comment! Thanks for that Springboard. We have 2 manufacturers here and export the V6 3.8 and the new 3 litre local motors and several of our Ford and GM Holden cars around the world. We have a huge motor industry here per capita, as our cities and towns are so far apart, and it is still cheaper to put 5 people in a car than pay 5 airfares I guess. I mentioned Tata's involvement in the "Compressed air Car" fiasco in another of my automotive hubs. It is a bit hard to imagine what a Tata/Jaguar will look like!

I buy cars as you do, and for the same reason, but you do need to know what you are doing.


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agvulpes 6 years ago from Australia

earnestshub, so it is 'ta-ta to Jaguar' Why would anyone in their right mind buy a Jaguar these days.

A few years back I did buy a GMH brand 'Apollo' (rebadged Camry) it was a really nice car but the service we got from GMH was appalling so I vowed never to buy another rebadged car. This is a great discussion on 'new or used car' you have got going on this Hub :-)


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Yep, Jag is gone with more to follow agvulpes. I agree with your view on the Appolo rebadged Camry from GMH the car was ok, but the service department did not seem to know the car well at all.


lyricsingray 6 years ago

earnest, I'll take any car, will you buy me one pleas!!!!!!!!!!!

btw great hub my love

thanks

kimberly


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Hello sweet Kimberly! Thanks for dropping by. Would you like a Candy pink VW BUG? The dream car of one of my girls! :)


AARON99 6 years ago

A very informative hub on cars. Keep writing.


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Springboard 6 years ago from Wisconsin

Yes, you still have to do your homework. Not sure about in the Outback, but here in the States the last couple years with all the incentives and even the "cash for clunkers" deal, prices between used and new were sometimes comparable, and in that case buying new vs. used would have been the better choice.

Rare, but it happens from time to time.


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thank you AARON99 I most certainly will.


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Hi Springboard, Yep we had the same deal here for the local product, big sales tax savings, same deal, the used car lots had to take a dump, and they sold heaps of new vehicles.!


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agvulpes 6 years ago from Australia

G'day earnestshub just a thought on your 'which new or used ' precis. Last night I looked at a nice little 4 wheel drive, it was called a 'Kruze' or 'Kruse'? , put out by GMH, it has got to be a re-badge of something else surely! Do you have any ideas ?


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Hi agvulpes! The new Cruze is made in Korea.

It was engineered by General Motors' European affiliate, Opel, in Germany and developed in several countries around the world, including Australia. It effectively replaces the Viva, which Holden sold since 2005 and has now discontinued. The Viva was a low-cost import, also from Korea, that sold alongside the classy, premium-priced, European-sourced Astra.

Source carsales.com.au


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TheMMAZone 6 years ago from Kansas

great hub very informative! I like the VW Bug


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thank you! The VW Bug is my granddaughters dream car by the way.


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prasetio30 6 years ago from malang-indonesia

If we want good performance and something new, the new car is the best choice. But is we have limited cost the used car is also good. We have to know the condition of the car before buying used car, ask the history of the user first. thank you very much.


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thanks prasetio30. I cover that in my other car buying hub as well!


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Faybe Bay 6 years ago from Florida

Yeah, definitely no Toyota. I have a Chevy Malubu hatchback and I love my car. Everyone says to trade in two years, I want to drive it till it drops.


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

No reason to move up yet Faybe, I would stick with the Malibu till things settle down at least. If you run it till it drops, you will save one more car from being added to the 600 million already out there!


mtsi1098 6 years ago

Very informative...I know you enjoy cars and this quality hub demonstrates that...Now I bought a Chrysler Jeep last year and they never make the quality lists but I enjoy it anyway...thanks


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thank you mtsi1098. I hope the Jeep works out well for you.

Chrysler vehicles do have some endearing qualities, plenty of horsepower is one of them.


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Stan200 6 years ago from blog

toyota super car


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Yes I admit Toyota have made some of the best vehicles I have driven but not in all categories. Their Landcruiser was always a good machine, and the ones built in the 90's were superb.

They also made one of the finest people movers on the market in the "Tarago" or "Previa". Better handling than many sports cars and good power to boot.

I still find many models of the Camry and Corolla utilitarian and boring.


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Dale Mazurek 6 years ago from Canada

You cant even find reviews and articles this well written in magazines.

Anyone looking at figuring things out when it comes to new or used needs to come and visit this hub.

You are a great writer.

I am glad to have your hub listed on my blog

Cheers

Dale


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Richard Armen 6 years ago

I change my mind on this myself all of the time because I have always bought used but then the idea of knowing that I bought a new car to keep forever and only I drove it also appeals to me.


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thank you Dale that means a lot to me. I have written a couple of articles for a couple of motoring magazines in my time, but they were not happy with my criticism of their sponsors! :) Thank goodness for hubpages eh?


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dohn121 6 years ago from Hudson Valley, New York

What a great job, Earnest. I too am a big Honda fan. My next "newer" car will be either a Honda or an Acura, period. It's the only brand I trust at this point. Sure, some other cars do come to mind (like a BMW but they're way out of my price range). You were really thorough here and covered all the makes that are worth any salt! Thanks.


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thank you dohn121. I agree, a used Honda or Accura is a good choice in my view too.


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Richard, some of the new cars are probably good for 20 years or more, so I agree, they are worth consideration by long term vehicle buyers.


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Hub Llama 6 years ago from Denver, CO

Wow! That is a TON of information for a single Hub. Most of it (except for who owns what, which for some reason I seem to have mostly kept up with) was new for me, and definitely not something I every thought about.

For now, I'll just keep my 2006 Honda CRV because it has 20,000 miles on it and runs fine, but I'll have to re-think everything next time I go to buy.

BTW, outstanding use of a RELATED hot girl picture in your Hub :)


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thank you Hub Llama. The 2006 model CRV was a good choice in my view, and should do the job for many more years. Naturally I would say that wouldn't I? my love of Honda is well known!

The hub will be updated today because Ford has just sold Volvo to a Chinese company!

The pic of the VW bug with the girl in it may be responsible at least in part, for all the slideshow views I have had.


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rebepa333 6 years ago from New York State : )

Great thoughts


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SomewayOuttaHere 6 years ago from TheGreatGigInTheSky

...hmmm....been thinking about what to buy and knew you wrote about vehicles - so will read some more and of course do other research. yea - love the audi; won't be buying one though - too bad!!!! loved the sound of the engine!!! my ex drove an audi - don't ask which one - an expensive one that's all I know - I just liked the sound of it and it moved really nice and hugged the road... but....for me...I'm not sure yet...something that goes with my motorcycle?..LOL!


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earnestshub 6 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Hi Someway, the Audi was probably an R8, very nice.

You can save massive money on a like new BMW these days. A 5 series is nice. The computer has the entire history of the car too!

Any of the Audi are nice to drive, but the BMW is very sweet as well, especially the M5

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