Amway System: History, Money, Points, Court Cases & Information

History of Amway

Amway was started by Rich DeVos & Jay Van Andel in 1959 in Michigan. Originally the company sold little more than soap powder (SA8) and LOC cleaning liquids.

The Old Amway

The older generation would probably remember Amway better as a group that sold cleaning supplies and forced you to buy large amounts of stock and sell them from your garage. There wasn't a lot of organization or system and if you didn't sell your stock you were left with a lifetime supply of cleaning products, not much money and often, few friends.

The New Amway

In the year 2000, Amway came under new management from the younger generation. Amway officially became an online business. Instead of forcing Amway members to buy stock wholesale then sell it on, often leaving them out of pocket, Amway now allows members and customers to simply order online, with delivery straight to your door.

Amway review - this is not an Amway plug.
Amway review - this is not an Amway plug.

Glossary

Customer - Someone who buys from Amway at retail rates only and is not eligible for any discounts or earnings. Usually a customer is linked to an IBO and the IBO pockets the difference between wholesale and retail.

IBO - Independent Business Owner. Someone who is part of the Amway business, buys at wholesale rates and is able to promote it to other people as well as earning discounts and money.

The Plan - The demonstration of exactly how Amway works and why people should join - shown to potential members.

Upline - People who are above you in the pipeline and usually have had more experience in the business than you.

The Business - The Amway business is often referred to like this to make it appear enigmatic and avoid the associations with Amway.

Amway Access

There are quite a few different self help style programs that allow you to access Amway - these include ones such as Network 21 and Dream Builders.

These programs are the backbone of Amway access - they provide organization as well as promotional materials and self help materials which is intended to help build your self confidence and self esteem as well as make you a better sales person of Amway items.

There are countless programs of this sort around today - most will show people the plan without actually mentioning Amway till the last minute. They try to convince people of how they can make money through this system without mentioning the "A" word since Amway still has a bad history with a lot of people.

Amway Court Cases

There have been quite a few court cases brought against Amway including a recent court case involving Amway UK and a group of Emerald level members. The members claimed that they weren't getting close to the amount of money that they'd been promised and also that they'd been cut out of receiving money from sales of promotional self help items. They claimed that this was never discussed, but an unwritten understanding was that a lot of money was made by selling these self help items, and they'd receive part of that money, on top of the small earnings they were getting from selling amway items.

The Point System

There is a basic point system within Amway which allows you to earn various bonuses and rewards. To receive anything through this system you generally need to spend in excess of "100 points" per month. Recently Amway announced that unless you bought the minimum of 100 points per month, you would not be eligible for any earnings through the system and any bonuses would be passed on to your upline.

How much is a point worth? Amway claims that 100 points is about equal to $200 - however what they don't mention is that you get more points for buying Amway exclusive items. That means that if you only use Amway to buy your storable groceries you may only earn 10 points for spending $150. To get the 100 points you have to buy exclusive items such as cleaning products, Emma Page jewelry or their exclusive line of energy drinks.

How Amway Works

Amway revolves around a pipeline system. When you become a paying member, you are placed into an already growing pipeline. If you don't wish to invite other members you can simply buy products at wholesale prices and not participate in any other way.

While you do nothing more than shop, members of your upline continue to add members below you. Based on the amount of money going through your pipeline, you can earn extra discounts (up to 21%) on top of the wholesale prices you are already paying.

You can only earn discounts through the first pipeline - you need to begin another pipeline before you can start earning a percentage of sales. Your upline will decide when you're ready to begin your own pipeline based on how many people you've signed up so far.

There is a basic system involving gems. For instance a member with three pipelines is called an Emerald while seven pipelines gives you the title of Diamond.

You can't simply build pipelines at random, however. You need to build each pipeline at the same time. This means that if you wish to place two people in the third pipeline you'll need to place two in pipeline one and two.

Is Amway a pyramid scheme?

Legally - no. Since in the first pipeline, people are joined below you, if you received money from this it would be classed as a pyramid scheme - instead the most you can earn from the first pipeline is up to 21% discount. This is why you have to start a second pipeline before you can earn any money - because starting a second pipeline means you've actively been working in the Amway system.

Of course, according to the majority's definition of a pyramid scheme, many people would still say it is, but uses a loophole to continue doing business.

Amway stories online

There are thousands of websites claiming supreme knowledge and total truth about Amway. However I'd warn you to beware which ones you believe. Of course, like all websites on a controversial topic, some are true and many are not.

A good example of this is the Sidney Schwartz site "Amway: The Untold Story". This site generally ranks high in any search on the Amway topic and contains literally hundreds of pages of information including many pages of comments from former Amway members.

However upon further research it turns out that Sidney Schwartz was taken to court back in the 90s over this website and was forced to close it. If you look carefully at the site you'll find that it is a mirror - or copy - of the original site. After spending hours on the site I discovered that there was no information that dated from later than 1999 - several months before the new Amway was released.

There are some true stories out there on the internet - however if you plan to research them I'd recommend you do so carefully - whether the information you find is good or bad. Always check the date and what country the story came from. 

The amway price saving

Amway claims that you can save large amounts of money through their system. This isn't entirely untrue - it just depends on how you look at it.

An Amway customer pays retail price for all items while an Amway IBO pays wholesale price. An Amway IBO can also earn up to 21% discount on top of this.

However there is very little difference between the price a customer and an IBO pays for most of the regular items (ones that Amway has to buy in) such as - foods, toiletries etc.

Only items that are Amway exclusive - such as cleaning lines, some makeup lines and jewelry lines receive large amounts off for IBOs.

Basically Amway claims that due to the fact that their exclusive items are cheaper than similar items of different brands, you are saving money. Of course this can be open to interpretation.

For example, Amway washing powder (SA8) is quite expensive - but you use much less than normal washing powder and many people claim that it is one of the best quality washing powders on the market. However, it's still very pricey compared to most washing powders.

However don't get your hopes up about the 21% discount just yet - it takes about $30,000 going through your pipeline before you're eligible for this discount.

Amway Products

After hours researching Amway online, being a member for a short time and talking to plenty of other members or ex members, this is one area I cannot fault Amway on.

They have some exclusive products, including cleaning and weight loss products. Every person I've talked to, and I myself agree, that Amway products are of very good quality and do a great job of whatever they promise.

The only problem? Since selling Amway exclusive products is the best way to earn large amounts from Amway, you need plenty of customers. Why? Because 1. Nearly all Amway exclusive products are sold in concentrated forms, meaning that customers won't need to buy more for quite awhile and 2. They are good quality but very expensive, in particular things like the laundry powder (think ~$50+ for a small box which will last you 6-12 months.) These two things stop people buying regularly and sometimes discourage them from buying more.

So... can you get rich through Amway?

The simple answer - Yes. But when is an answer ever simple? Like all legitimate and scam businesses out there, someone always makes a profit at some stage - if they didn't no one would be willing to encourage others to join.

The best way to describe Amway is working as a sales person without a retainer - you'll be working on commission. Of course if you put in enough hours you can make money, but unless you have either:

  1. Plenty of luck (or fantastic sales skills) for getting new members and customers or
  2. The willingness to try over and over and over and over again till you finally through hard work get some money

You may not ever make more than $50 from joining. And remember you have member fees, fees for joining their training programs, buying their books and CDs and more.

When in training for bringing other people into the business, you'll likely be told that only about 1-5 people out of every 100 you show the plan to, will actually join. So to get 10-50 new members, you'll have to show the plan to 1,000 people.

So yes, you can make money through Amway but there are definitely easier ways. Sure you could be one of the 2% of Amway members who manage to quit their day jobs and make enough money to live off Amway. However chances are more likely you'll be in the 98% who keep those 2% rich by joining then leaving in disgust when it's a lot harder than you expected.

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Comments 24 comments

vikram singh 23 months ago

Amway forbes magazine list and rank worldwide 26 america's largest private company


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fpherj48 2 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

wrylit...."Fool me once, shame on yo.....fool me twice, shame on me." I've had to learn that the hard way. Not once, twice but THREE times, I allowed myself to get sucked in with MLM "scams"....Yes, people out there....I said, "Scams."

Wrylit, your hub is accurate, well-written and fair. Amway, Market America and oh so many others, work on the same basic principle.....The first few people in, make it big. Afterwards (if seen on a graph) I'm afraid you would see a steady decline.

Been there, done that.....once too often. Never again. I may be stubborn, but I'm not stupid! Thanks for this article. I HOPE people get the message.


sree 3 years ago

may i know what exactly the points i need to do if i want to earn around $400 in a month


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WryLilt 3 years ago from Toowoomba, Australia Author

Nikita,

Thank you for your comment. However I have watched many pyramid, MLM and direct marketing schemes in action. Although a small percentage of people succeed, the majority do not.

I have found my niche - writing online. Luckily I don't need to annoy my friends to do that!


Nikita 3 years ago

I will suggest people to really look at the big picture, if there is only 2% of people earning enough to quit their job. Amway would not grow big like this day.


Nikita 3 years ago

I feel disappointed after reading through your article. Obviously you are a loser of this environment or yourself, you are afraid of paying hard work, you only prefer instance income and with a very short sight. The most sadness is you encourage people to become same like you. Tell us the true story after you become a diamond, not still nothing in this environment.

If I am your boss, if you are a person to quit the job just because of many of rejections, I will never ask you back. And think clearly, can you force everyone on the street to go into your restaurant. Nothing and no jobs out there is easy. If you want to be comfortable with yourself, do not make other people to, there are people out there they need this opportunity, this might change their life. Please be a good person, no one ask you to pursue people to join, but do not give untrustworthy comments. Please


skt999 3 years ago from Bangalore, India

Amway is a great business to lose your money.

Better to go and buy a lottery ticket than joining Amway which has pretty little success ratio, considering 90% of the IBO's end up losing money, forget about making any profit.

Leave alone the loss of self respect pitching unknown, uninterested people in public places.

Thanks WryLilt for this wonderful article and I recommend everyone to read the below article also,

http://themadeconomy.blogspot.in/2013/06/amway-mos...


kamiroonrahiman 3 years ago

i still haven't seen a catalog yet to know what i really getting into


Haley Warzecha 3 years ago

I would like to point out that the Amway experience is depicted solely by the support team you plug in with. Amway merely supplies the products they do not tell anyone how to run their businesses. Therefore, there are different support groups/ aka hamburger university for mcdonalds that groups plug into. NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GOOD! if you want to pursue amway learn about the support team


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WryLilt 3 years ago from Toowoomba, Australia Author

Satheesh, I might take your comment more seriously if you'd been in Amway longer than 2 months.


satheesh 3 years ago

Dear Madam, thanks for your research, it sounded like discouraging people about Amway, you can see a lot of people out side without jobs, but Amway is giving a great opportunity to make their dreams come true. About hard work, in any job, we need to work hard, nothing is free, no company will pay thousands of dollars as starting salary, just like that, Amway want people spend time to grow their business, not just as said only buying products, i think you don't have idea about their residual income plan, if a silver is made,his upline will get get good amount just on him for 200 hundreds years, is it not a good deal? it is just duplication, nothing much harder, i am really enjoying the business, though i am just 2 months old in this.


Nope 3 years ago

The grammer in this article is about as good as the chances of you making a livable income off Amway.

Notwithstanding, it was a silly, silly business venture for all involved. Apart from the visionaries. 2nd paragraph = my dad.


sameeksha 4 years ago

it is a good way of make life essy and battar for us and other i like amway


Sylvia 4 years ago

Hi

YA IS GOOD TO HEAR THAT , I AM A NEW MEMBER OF AMWAY AN I FEEL SO INTERESTING ON IT! I HOPE I CAN MAKE IT ONE DAY!


matt 4 years ago

been doing it for about one year, its hard but worth it. Ive made about $900.00 every month for the alst 5 months.


sharmila from Bangalore 4 years ago

I have very happy with product and MRP


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WryLilt 4 years ago from Toowoomba, Australia Author

Thank you for your comment, G.

I'm working off an average family use of washing loads. It sounds like you may only be washing for one?


4 years ago

thanks for your website. there were a couple of points that are not quite spot on but very very close. For example. THe laundry powder SA8 3kg now costs about $58 wholesale i got 1 1/2 years out of it. that is 188 washes that is 0.31 cents per wash. studies have been done on other 3kg boxes and their cost came out more expensive per wash. But not only that my machine is so clean because there are no fillers in SA8 unlike other powders.

THanks again for you unbiased opinion.


Jay 4 years ago

Thanks! this has help in my search to find out on a fair level, if Amway is legit money making company or not.

I have a greater understanding , thanks a lot


Sooni 5 years ago

Thanx, best info for ppl thinking about joining in on Amway iv seen by far... Thanx again!


Contrice 6 years ago

I really appreicate the info on the Sidney Schwartz site.


Dale 6 years ago

Well done on this article. I have been looking at various articles on this topic for over an hour and this is the first article that attempts to be unbiased. I found it very informative. I wish I had come to it in the first instance.

Cheers, Dale


Rick Zepeda 6 years ago

Amway has been around for a very long time and they are huge. Personally, I like big opportunities and only go for the big commission days.


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barryrutherford 6 years ago from Queensland Australia

I had a try at it 10 years ago and your description is highly accurate !

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