Smoke In a Can, Snus

Well Ex-Snnnuuuuusssss ME!!!

I have recently discovered a new store in my neighborhood. This store sells tobacco products at discount prices, and I have household members who indulge in tobacco products.

Now, before you break out the sermon and the Nicorette, hear me out. I could just as easily get on my own soapbox about the filthy, disgusting, unhealthy, expensive habit that is smoking. Trust me, there is no one more militant about smoking than a former smoker.

But my attitude is this: If my guys insist on smoking tobacco products (which currently they do), we might as well buy them in bulk. I'm very big on buying in bulk.

Now the first time I entered this store I felt like a cross between Alice in Wonderland and Cheech and Chong. Lining the aisle on both sides are display cases and shelves jam-packed full of pipes. Not the kind Ward Cleaver smoked. No, no. These pipes are multicolored, exotic and metal. Some are marbly looking stone. There's one at the store's entrance that's gotta be 3 feet tall. I'm not kidding!

As you progress toward the back of the store where the "mainstream commercial tobacco products" are kept you pass a veritable smokasbord of accoutrements and accessories. Rolling papers and blunt wrappers in every conceivable size, color and flavor.

Now I admit, I haven't been in a bona fide "head shop" for decades. The pot-pourri emporiums we frequented as teens bore little resemblance to this modern market. Except for the merchandise itself, this store looks like the deli where we buy our lottery tickets.

You won't see any black lights or Grateful Dea posters on the walls. The cloyingly sweet odor of patchouli is nowhere to be sniffed (thank God). Nope. This is your basic strip mall storefront that just happens to trade in all things --- smoke.

And also things smoke-less. Which is what I went in to purchase tonight. I had been asked to purchase a product called "Snus" made by Camel. Snus is supposed to be a neater, cleaner type of smokeless tobacco product that you don't chew and doesn't make you spit.

Snus sounded like a reasonable idea to me. Any product that eliminates, or even cuts down on the harmful chemical in cigarettes is a step in the right direction, I say.

SNUS in the News

SNUS (rhymes with loose) is a moist ground tobacco that a user tucks between the cheek and the gum. Unlike chewing tobacco and moist smokeless tobacco — commonly known as dip — snus requires no spitting. Thanks partly to its popularity here, Sweden has the lowest smoking rates in Europe. It also has fewer incidences than its neighbors of smoking-related diseases, including lung and oral cancer.

What've you been smoking, sir?

I asked the young gentleman behind the counter for a can of "Snus." He was not familiar with the product, so he called the store owner over.

And here's where the exchange really became Wonderland-esque.

When I mentioned the word "Snus" he made a horrible face. He explained that he did not want to sell me Snus because he knew a man who used it and he'd gotten cancer. He told me the man's face had been cut away from the cancer and he looked like a monster.

I tried to assure him that this product is actually better for you (ok, that's a bit of a stretch, but at least less lethal) than other tobacco products, including regular snuff.

Well, he was having none of it. He kept going back to the man who'd gotten cancer. He flat out insisted that Snus leads to cancer. Not other tobacco products, just Snus.

Ok, ok, you're the expert here. I'm sure you know more about this than I do.

But I could not stop myself from pointing out what I know to be true. Pure, unadulterated tobacco is far less harmful to the body than cigarette smoke.

And yet, time and again this gentleman insisted otherwise. Here he was. Swearing up and down that cigarettes don't cause cancer, but this Snus stuff does.

I thought about it for a minute. "Why is he so adament?"

I decided to put myself in his shoes. How would I justify being in the business of selling a product that is so toxic and addicting and dangerous that legally it must carry a warning to that effect? How could I justify selling paraphernalia used almost exclusively for smoking an illegal weed? I would have to live in a state of suspended disbelief. Which, of course, would be easy to do, given the products so readily available to me in my own shop!

You Snus You Lose?

In the end we compromised. In lieu of Snus I took two tins of a mint flavored chew tobacco. The store owner promised to look into ordering some Snus for me the next time I come in.

He even followed me out to my car, still ranting and raving about the man whose face came off from cancer. In the end, though, it came down to this:

The tobacco shop owner was not so noble as to refuse to sell a paying customer something she really wants. What he really wanted was absolution for doing so. He wanted my word that I snused at my own risk. That is, if he sold me the Snus, and it did turn out to be cancer-inducing, that I wouldn't turn around and sue him.

Fair enough, I guess. I shook my head in bemusement, but I did promise.

Snusing for Dummies

Tobacco or Not Tobacco?

Do you use tobacco products?

  • Yes. Cigarettes.
  • Yes. Cigars.
  • Yes. Pipe.
  • Yes. Chew.
  • Yes. Snus.
  • No. I use the vaporette.
  • No. I quit.
  • No. Never did, never will.
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Laughing Mom 7 years ago

I have two kids with asthma that is triggered by second hand smoke. We steer clear of it at all costs.

Although I've never smoked a cigarette, in high school and college, I dated several baseball players and a couple of bull riders who chewed. NASTY! Always carrying around that gross McDonald's spit cup. I learned to always check my cup before taking a drink. My Grandaddy chewed RedMan tobacco for as long as I could remember. I loved the smell because it reminded me of him. Once when I was very young, he gave me a pinch. I didn't know i was supposed to just hold in my mouth and then spit. I mean really, what's the point:? So I swallowed it. Then I threw up. For days!! Yuck!

But I'm confused about this snus. If you don't chew it and you don't spit it. What exactly do you do with it?


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hi Laughing Mom, from what I was able to find out, Snus is in a little packet like a teabag. You just hold it between your lip and your gum. It does have nicotine in it, so delivers the "punch." I can't imagine it takes the full place of a grit (my Hubby's term for cigarette) if you're a real smoker, tho.

I have had only one experience with a boyfriend who chewed. I didn't even know about his habit -- he kept it hidden from me, he was so ashamed of it.Your experience sounds GHASTLY. I can just imagine how awful it must have tasted going down and coming back up. Yuck!


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shamelabboush 7 years ago

I've been smoking since the beginning of time and trying nowadays to quit! This is a bittersweet habbit but it's filthy like you said. Thanks dear.


ralwus 7 years ago

My eldest son rubs snuff, and he's married to a nurse who allows it and condones the spitting cup in the house. He started when a boy playing baseball. gross, my Mom's parents both chewed tobacco and used an old coffeee can for a spitoon. gross


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California

Interesting story. I am a smoker and fully understand the bad effects. You are inhaling smoke, anyway you look at that can't be good. So these new products might be a good thing but in the end, they will cause other problems.

The only solution is to quit or stop blaming others.

Good hub.


pgrundy 7 years ago

Bill uses those when we have to go somewhere he can't smoke. He had finally quit and was doing great when they shut down his workplace and offered him a buyout or a transfer in December. (Merry Freakin' Christmas!) He took the transfer and started smoking again. He will try to quit again, eventually, but I realize I can't do anything about his decision to smoke. I worry, sure, but.... well you know the rest of the script.

I'm a little puzzled by the current attitudes toward smoking. I know it's horrible and dangerous and blah blah blah and I'm not trying to minimize that, but Prohibition went really well, huh? So why not go there again? It's all so nuts. It's like, well, the world is melting down around our ears but at least we can make people stop smoking.

Not true but it seems to cheer people up somehow. I guess I'm rambling. I hope any of that made sense. Great hub, as usual.


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Sufidreamer 7 years ago from Sparti, Greece

Good old snus - i used it al the time when I lived in Sweden - less anti-social than smoking or chewing. I must try to order some!


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Cris A 7 years ago from Manila, Philippines

I'm happy with my Marlboro. And make that Lights - it does lessen the fear and the guilt :D

Btw, do you have an ashtray stashed somewhere here?


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Thanks, friends, for stopping in to Mighty Mom's Smoke Emporium. Sufi -- yes, I should have mentioned that Snus has been popular in Sweden for years. And judging by the amount of info available on the Internet, it's become popular globally, also.

I totally understand how people under stress (like your Bill, Pam) revert to smoking. It's a crutch. And a darned good one. That's Hubby's story, too. He used to do only cigars, but has taken up Djarums. At least they smell nice (clove). Not good enough to make me want to go back to smoking. I just can't.

Sounds like the popular opinion here is that chewing tobacco is at least as gross as smoking. Certainly less glamorous!

Cris -- you can have your pick of ashtrays at my house! Which would you prefer, the abalone shell or the glass number lifted from a Greek cafe or ....


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R. Blue 7 years ago from Right here

I pnly smoked the "Wacky" brand in College....gave it up long ago....but did chew occasionally with my Dad when we went fishing.


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Interesting the positive associations people have with parents or grandparents and chewing. R Blue, chew when fishing with your dad? Good Lord. Conjures up a memory for me of being on a dive boat in the Caribbean and some selfish prick was smoking a cigar. Normally cigar smoke doesn't bother me, but with the rocking of the small boat and me no doubt being somewhat hung over... green city.


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blondepoet 7 years ago from australia

Wow MM next time you go into the shop can you whisper into the guy's ear, "Open one of these in Toowoomba Australia and I will make it worth your while hahah"


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Sufidreamer 7 years ago from Sparti, Greece

I know the cafe, MM - that ashtray had better be in the post tomorrow, or I will be informing Interpol.


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

BP -- I'll mention it to him. In terms of making it worth his while, that's up to you, my dear. I have complete faith in you that you can and will make such a business a success!

Sufi -- If I send the ashtray c/o Sufidreamer can I trust it will make its way back to the source? I do not want to have Interpol after me:-).


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RGraf 7 years ago from Wisconsin

Yuk! I remember the spit cup of my father's. it was always SOOOOOO gross! (Yet, I'll admit that I miss the smell. SHHHH)


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puppascott 7 years ago from Michigan (As far as you know...)

I love the taste of a good cigarette (filterless, if you please) or fine cigar, however, I am in the process of quitting. Not because I want to, but because I have to. I just cannot make an economically sound argument for the habit. Sadly, I say good-bye to a faithful companion, and sidekick, for almost 25 years. Keep your gums, your patches, your SNUS, and electronic cigarettes; there has never been, nor will there ever be a suitable substitute for the sweet taste of tobacco. Maybe I'll take up drinking.


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fortunerep 7 years ago from North Carolina

Sounds like the shop owner was smoking something himself.


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hey Puppascott. Nice job romancing the cancer stick! But I totally get where you're coming from. When we finally decide to kick a habit that we've cultivated over decades, it's like mourning the loss of a companion! The trick (I have found) to not living on the pity pot is to substitute positive things for the old habit. I know you're joking about taking up drinking. Economically speaking, it's gonna be at least as expensive as smoking -- not to mention that smoking and drinking go hand-in-hand. The bottle will lead you right back to the pack.

How about taking up running or a sport instead? Get those tarred up lungs out in the fresh air!!!

Fortunerep --That's what I thought, too. I haven't been back in yet. I wonder if he will be true to his word. LOL. I'll report back! Thanks for visiting, MM


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puppascott 7 years ago from Michigan (As far as you know...)

"The trick (I have found) to not living on the pity pot is to substitute positive things for the old habit."

I've taken up writing. Sitting in front of a computer has a way of making a day dissapear in a hurry.


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goldentoad 7 years ago from Free and running....

I'm no fan of tobacco.


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Puppascott -- ain't that the truth! Remember that old Eddie Rabbitt song, "Driving my life away"? Well my new theme song is "Hubbing my life away" Not really but some days it does seem impossible to ignore the siren call of HP:-).

GT -- Thank God you're here!!! I was thinking I should take you in with me as a bodyguard/tourguide the next time I go into that store. Not for the tobacco products, but for ... everything else:-).


JGibb25 7 years ago

There is a thing i do notice in this hub/comments. No one has metioned a dip (which can be confused as a chew or snus). I am a baseball player and i do dip. I have tried snus (SPITless tobacco) before and loved the flavor but it is a very week substance. And chew, which is the tobacco leaves in a larger form ( red man, levi garrett to name a few) i do enjoy but do not get a great buzz from this either, although it does smell like raisins and taste somewhat good and the spits are veryyy large. A dip on the other hand it what most people refer to as chewing. It is a type of chew but not the common word for it. I dip copenhagen because of the strength of the buzz i get, but also do the cheaper stuff like grizzly. A dip is a long cut, or very fine cut (snuFF) tobacco that you but the spits are much smaller than a chew. Good hub though i enjoy the topic :)


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hi JGibb25. Well, you sure know a heck of a lot more about tobacco products than I do! Baseball players seem to gravitate to things they can put in their mouth and spit out. I hear the dugout is covered in sunflower seed shells -- among other "stuff."

Thanks for readign and commenting. You should write a hub about dip -- you know so much about it! MM


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Kebennett1 7 years ago from San Bernardino County, California

It's all bad for your health! And bad habits to pass down to the next generation! It is great for the various "tobacco" companies that get rich off of people who eventually suffer the consequences of addictive practices. I personally wish it was all banned. I am tired of losing friends and family members to cancer. (Yes, they were all tobacco users) (No I can't prove the tobacco caused it--but I am sure it did not help!) Second hand smoke at least has been cut down since laws have been passed cutting its use down in public. I am thankful for that! My father WAS a smoker and now has advanced COPD and lives on 24 hr a day oxygen and weighs only 95 pounds at 5'5". My mother also no longer smokes, and has mid range COPD and is on oxygen, has heart disease, and has had several major strokes. What a way to live. A lot of illnesses can be avoided, by lifestyle changes. Limit the intake of alcohol. Red wine in small amounts is good for you, as long as it is not mixed with medications! Do not smoke, and eat a low fat, low cholesterol diet! Consume plenty of fresh fruits and vegies!

Yes I know my comment will probably not be popular! But hey, it is healthy! Try it and you may live longer!


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hi kebennett1, Thank you for your very wise comment. I don't know how old you are, but I imagine that your parents are of a generation that started smoking early, before the dangers were known. My mother died of emphysema/COPD. She simply could not put the cigarettes down. We all grew up in a house, and in the car, inhaling my parents' second-hand smoke.

You are so right about lifestyle. We are in control of our own bodies and it's up to us to take care of them or get ourselves sick. MM


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Moonchild60 7 years ago

My nephew recently got annoyed with me because he went outside to smoke a cigarette. "Thats disgusting" I said to him (a former smoker who quit 21 years ago). "What?" he said genuinelly surprised "You know ***** smokes pot and you never give him any crap"... I said "Because pot won't kill him. It's illegal for b.s. reasons and I know the positive uses for it and there are literally hundreds perhaps thousands. Scientists have absolutely no scientific proof pot does anything to harm you. They just make the assumption that it will lead to stronger drugs. There are much more dangerous things out there sweetie, like your cigarette, that they are certain will kill you one day". He shrugged. Oh well. Maybe someday he will quit smoking those cancer sticks...gee, in the meantime I hope he doesn't pick up a bong just because of his little conversation with auntie...


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hi Moonchild, There is no division like the smokers vs. the ex-smokers. Not even the non-smokers are as vehemently opposed to smoking -- we who used to engage in that filthy habit become zealots in our intolerance.

It is true that there is NO doubt that cigarettes kill.

But if you are talking to a nephew who is in those formative years when people feel invincible (teens, early 20s) then give it up. He won't hear it.

Although I know that pot has many medicinal uses and is essential to the quality of life of people with certain chronic conditions, I have to disagree about its downside.

Current addiction thinking does show marijuana to be addicting. It causes brain changes, especially in developing brains (teens again). I read recently that it is linked to lung cancer. Makes sense, since you inhale it into your lungs...

I feel very ambivalent about pot. I see its good side and believe it should not be illegal, as the majority of people who enjoy it do so without moving onto harder drugs.

However, having lived through my own son's addiction to weed -- that WAS his gateway drug, I cannot sit back while people talk about how completely harmless it is.

It's like nails on a chalkboard. For me, same thing when people talk about alcoholics being weak willpowered. Arrrgh.

But anyway, thank you for visiting my hubs! It's a pleasure ggetting to know you. MM


Sidney Rayne 7 years ago

I quit smoking about a year ago....actually by accident when I discovered Snus by Camel. Since then I searched the internet up and down and found a great shop here in the states that offers actual Swedish Snus instead of the chemically enhanced Camel variety.

Granted there are definitely some health risks involved in Snus...I can actually run a few miles without seeing my lung jogging alongside of me and I don't stink like an ashtray. Beyond that I went from spending $4.50 a day to around $3.00 a week...sometimes less.

Sure nicotine is a habit...but that and caffeine is not so horrid at the end of the day....and while using Snus may be simply switching seats on the Titanic...I have come to enjoy it and it instantly obliterated a 14 year smoking habit (smoked almost half my life!).


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BrianFanslau 7 years ago from Eagan, MN

Great Hubb! Have you ever tried Hookah? It is very interesting and is available at most smoke shops. VERY LOW TAR and it is a sweet and tasty smoke with lots of fun flavors. I used to live with friends who smoked it but I haven't for quite some time. Very relaxing and fun to blow smoke rings with.


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hi Brian, Thanks for visiting! No, I have not tried hookah. I do shop in a store that has every shape and flavor of tobacco product (and accoutrements) in the universe. My smoke-ring-blowing days ended quite a while ago. I'm the only tobacco-free person in my family. Luckily they are courteous and only go outside.


Urufuzu 7 years ago

Smoking cigarettes is a horrible habit, started 5 years ago. I won't tell my actual age, but SNUS is a good way to make it through a day in high school without sneaking around for a smoke break. I am not a fan of smoking or dipping, but it's easy to become addicted. I grew up with everyone around me smoking and it becomes extremely hard to resist getting into that habit under that circumstance. I repeatedly tell every smoker i meet to stop smoking, you wouldn't imagine how many F bombs i get per day. You may call me a hypocrite all you want, but i look out for other people, not really myself. I keep fit while still smoking, it's hard but not impossible. I am perfectly healthy, just stuck with a bad habit. Anyone who reads this, let me tell you one thing, DON'T DIP, CHEW, OR SMOKE. That is all...


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hi Urufuzu. Sounds like you came to your senses quickly on the subject of tobacco. It is a habit that takes you nowhere, but like other "grownup" things teens feel they need to check it out. With all that is known about it today, I'm glad to see the number of users going down.

Keep up your crusade and eventually I hope you are able to quit the habit entirely. Meantime, STAY HEALTHY! MM


Urufuzu 7 years ago

MM, it is true that the habit takes people nowhere. I do not consider myself a "grownup" teen, but i will keep up the crusade and i will continue to stay healthy. Thank you for your input.


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hi again Urufuzu! Thanks for coming back for another visit! I beg to differ with you. Your attitude shows you to be a very, very grownup teen! Stay healthy and keep on hubbing! MM


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tobacco lover 7 years ago

Let me see.... I smoke cigarettes, cigars, a pipe, snort snuff up my nose, and grow my own tobacco. But I can't stand snus. I tried a tin when it fist came out and found it just too nasty for me. Yesterday they sent me two coupons in the mail to buy one and get one free! Wish they would do that with my pipe tobacco.


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Tobacco Lover -- my goodness, you do enjoy smoking in all its forms (not sure what substance you snort up your nose. Certainly hope it's NOT tobacco!). I've heard complaints that snus is nasty. Not anything I could consider trying. My tobacco days are over...

Do love the smell of a nice pipe tho, as well as cigars.

Hey -- maybe you can take the coupons in and ask for the cash value to be applied toward your pipe tobacco! MM


Urufuzu 7 years ago

Hi MM, back again, it's nice to know what's going on. Bookmarked this page, otherwise i would forget to come back every few days... You're not the only one who likes the smell of a pipe or a nice cigar. I'm still continuing the crusade even though it's not going well right now... Nothing will convince my peers to quit, they are even stupid enough to start smoking on school grounds. They are truly addicted, any tips on how to help convince them to quit? (other than ratting them out, it never works...)


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hi Urufuzu, Health crusades rarely work. If you're talking about counseling teen peers, your efforts are falling on willfully ignorant ears. I know becuz I was a teen once (many moons ago) and no one would have been able to convince me to not smoke (or drink). It's a rite of passage that many teenagers just have to go through.

My teen son also smokes. I don't like it, but I know the louder I voice my concern, the less he will listen. So I am waiting patiently for it to run its course. Which I know it will, as soon as he decides his health is important.

You are doing the best thing for YOU by not smoking.

In my experience, the best thing you can do for your friends is to lead by example. Tell them that if they continue to smoke -- esp. on school grounds -- that you will simply not be able to be around them. And stick to it.

If your friendship is important to them, they may think twice. In the meantime, if they only value you as a friend as long as you are going along with the pack (no pun intended), then are they truly friends? What kind of friends want you to risk your lungs to cancer and your heart to heart disease?

I can guarantee you there are plenty of nice kids in your school who do not smoke. Now's you chance to seek them out and discover what's really important to YOU.

Good luck! MM


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javanx3d 7 years ago from Memphis, TN

Great hub!


Urufuzu 7 years ago

Good point MM, they aren't true friends, just some old smoking buddies of mine. I don't really think they'll ever grow up, they really don't think their health is important. I still try, but really you know how it goes, the more you try the less they listen. I've got a few true friends who smoke and even they just blow it off when anyone tries to convince them to quit, unless they get ill from smoking there isn't really a way to convince them to quit. Thank You for your input yet again, even though this one seems kinda grim.


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Urufuzu, There is a self-righteousness that ex-smokers (and ex-drinkers, addicts, etc.) can acquire that is very, very annoying. It's so tempting to try to preach religion to our former partners in unhealthy habits. But they just don't want to hear it. And actually, unless we notice some justifiable reason (they're coughing up blood for example) it's really "outside of our hula hoop." Your attitude is perfect and I'm sure eventually your friends will get with the program. Probably just as soon as you back off:-). MM


Jamie 7 years ago

This store employee doesn't know what hes talking about. snus is not dangerous at all. snus originated in sweden, and it is a form of chewing tobacco. but unlike american chewing tobacco, in which the leaves are burned and fermented, snus dries its tobacco leaves by steam-treating and pasteurizing, which ELIMINATES NEARLY ALL CARCINOGENS. Sweden has the highest per capita snus chewing population, and the lowest incidence of oral disease. there are many other facts out there, do your own research.

In sweden, snus is so safe that they are not required to put a warning on it.

I have chewed for a year and a half and have now changed to strictly snus for almost a year. It is spitless, safe, and tasty. I highly recommend it. by the way, the camel snus sucks, i get mine online straight from sweden, its much better quality, stronger, and cheaper.

http://theunloadingzone.blogspot.com/2008/06/index...

www.snuscentral.com


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hi Jamie,

Sounds like you know your snus. I appreciate the intel. While I myself don't use any tobacco products, I have two males in my life who do. I would really prefer that they not pollute their lungs with the chemicals in cigarettes.

And yeah, I knew the guy in the smoke shop was wacky the minute he said what he said. Maybe he had been smoking too much of that "other" stuff:-). Thanks for commenting. MM


wsp2469 6 years ago

I quit smoking cold-turkey over ten years ago for sure. I don't really keep track of it that well. Anyway, I just don't understand how we can put a man on the moon but can't make these products safer. I have been saying for years (and mentioned it in another comment somewhere)that we should just put the industry under the FDA. That way we make the product safer and no one loses a job. . .except maybe guys at the top who should have already saved enough money to retire. (I see you changed your avatar again. I guess I have beaten the Super-girl thing to death, haven't I? I'm sorry. I'll stop if you want . . .


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Mighty Mom 6 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

silly billy,

I agree about cigarettes. I think people do want to smoke and probably could more safely if they took all those nasty chemicals out (which I believe is probably possible).

I also quit smoking cold turkey. I think 11 years ago but who counts.

I did change my avatar. Onward and upward to Thanksgiving.

You haven't beaten the MM/supergirl thing to death at all! If I knew how to work Photoshop I would add a witch hat or a turkey or a candy cane or whatever prop I'm gonna need for the next holiday.Alas, I don't have those skills.

So for right now I'm in holiday avatar mode.

Worry not. The old MM will reappear. Perhaps botoxed and lipo'd. Maybe not till 2010 tho. I haven't thought that far ahead.

WHy. Don't you like my new purple coiffure? I think it's bitching!


Snus-erer 6 years ago

Snus is nothing like cigarettes and contains only a fraction of the carcinagens (spelling) of cigarettes. This is one reason why the Swedish (where Snus is used more than cigarettes) have fewer problems with cancer and smoking-deaths.

You swallow the snus fluid, it burns going down, as any tobacco burns. I don't swallow it since it COULD cause mouth cancer (I really don't want to risk stomach cancer), I just spit it in a black Rock Star bottle.

You do get a nicotine buzz from it and many smokers have told me that Snus has helped them quit smoking, or using tobacco products all together. Snus is easy to quit, you just reduce the number of times a day you use it and you can easily get off of it in a matter of months.

And yes cigarettes could be made so they aren't dangerous. All of the added chemicals are what makes them dangerous. Centuries ago, tobacco was actually used as a medical remedy, which it is, but only without the chemicals.

You could grow your own tobacco and roll your own cigarettes. The paper would actually be more dangerous than the actual tobacco.

Hopes this helps a little bit, even though this thread is old.


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Mighty Mom 6 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hey Snus-er. Thanks for the vote of confidence for Snus. I'm not a user myself,but am a big fan of reducing the carcinogens in tobacco products! Thanks for visiting. And there's no such thing as an "old thread" -- threads can always be revisited! MM


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Petra Vlah 6 years ago from Los Angeles

I never heard of Snus. I am still smoking cigarettes, about two packs a day, and I have done so for about 40 years. It may not be the healthiest thing to do, but is certainly better than other vices, like drinking or taking dugs (thank God for small favors, right?).

A friend of mine quite and she still regrets it. When I asked “why did you quite?” her answer was: “so I can buy myself two more years in a nursing home”. Thank you, but no thank you!


Toby 6 years ago

I learned a lot about snus from an article I read online and it convinced me to make the switch from cigarettes. Everything I have been reading shows me that snus is pretty much harmless because of the way its made. I highly recommend giving the article a read if you want to find out more information about Snus: http://snusauthority.com/blog/about-snus/


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Mighty Mom 6 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hi Toby! Thanks for the link idea. I will add to my hub.

Cheers, MM

P.S. Glad you are saving your lungs!


anders 6 years ago

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Stryker 6 years ago

I love Camel "Frost" Snus. I have used it on and off for over a year now. The up side, I quit smoking on May 31, 2009. I save so much more money now. Plus I don't stink; and can breathe easier. I highly recommend trying Snus if you are trying to quit smoking. Cheaper than nicotine gum.

I have tried mellow and wintermint flavors from Camel too, but do not like them. I'll try Robust soon, but I will probably stay with frost.

I haven't tried any other brands of Snus yet, but that is because there are very few places that carry it where I live.

Like I said, if you are trying to quit smoking, Snus may help you as it did me. I still have a craving (even over a year) when I go to bars, but all I have to do is pop a snus into my mouhth and I'm good. Plus, unlike cigs, I don't get that craving from Snus like I had while smoking.


Stryker 6 years ago

Oh, and FYI. Robust and Winterchill (not wintermint) are 2 new flavors from Camel. But they are also "bigger" pouches (even says large pouch on the tin). I tried the winterchill, but it tastes like wintermint lifesavers. Plus I don't like whatever the new "pouches" are made of. Hopefully they won't change "frost" or I will have to start looking for a new brand.


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Mighty Mom 6 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hello Stryker. You are a walking advertisement for Snus!

I haven't researched the health implications of Snus vs. smoking, but it's gotta be better than inhaling that yucky tar into your lungs.

Congratulates on quitting smoking, btw. I hope you are able to withstand those cravings! MM


pd09d 6 years ago

that dude just sounds like he has a warped sense of reality. but hey, his business is his own. i liked this hub.


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Mighty Mom 6 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Thanks pd09d. Everyone has an opinion. I really don't have one for or against any flavor of snus, since I personally don't use it and gave up smoking over a decade ago:-)!


quit smoking 5 years ago

I used to smoke for 16 years not anymore... it's damn stupid..

I do use snus daily :)


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Mighty Mom 5 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Hey quit smoking! I used to smoke for many many years also. Not cannot stand the smell of cigarettes.

I know others who quit still like the smell.

Not me.

Glad you found snus. It's probably not the "best" thing for your body, but several degrees healthier than the cancer sticks!

Thanks for visiting. MM


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WeNdYpOoPoO 5 years ago from Hudson Valley NY

MM,

I still smoke it is the devil I swear. I tried quitting so many times it is so hard. Chewing is so nasty I would cut my spouses lips off if he chewed.


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Mighty Mom 5 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Smoking is a bear to get off of, that's for sure! I hope you are able to put those damned cancer sticks DOWN! Or how about this -- maybe your spouse should cut YOUR lips off if you don't. LOL. You never, ever fail to crack me frigging up! Merry Xmas and all that good stuff. MM


Caughin Naile 4 years ago

I wonder if cigarettes really are more addictive than cocaine and heroin. Maybe they release some sort of opiate compound, like endorphins or something in addition to the dopamine. It's easy for me to quit, I just can't ever STAY quit. Swedish snus (the real stuff from overseas) works wonders, but the cravings still come. It's just not the same. I am waiting for them to come out with injectable nicotine.


ross 4 years ago

snus is not bad for you if u use the swedish stuff, its regulated by their fda as a food product, proven not to cause oral cancers


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Mighty Mom 4 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA Author

Thank you, Ross.

I trust the Swedish FDA much more than I trust the American FDA!

MM

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