Kirsten Student Development, Inc. (KSDI)

The UK has great opportunities for professionals from the medical industry. It has a high demand of medical workers and has started admitting medical professionals from other countries. Some foreigners even study medical courses from there and work there at the same time after graduation. This opportunity has caught the attention of many Filipinos and it has given them hope to earn a high paying job and strive harder amd hasten their skills in medicine and caregiving. Some schools and agencies in the UK has partnered with Philippine agencies in order to help spread the word and help those professionals who would want to study, enahce their skills and land a job in the medical profession in the country.

One of these agencies is Kirsten Student Development, Inc. (KSDI). KSDI is a student agency helping individuals who are interested to study in the UK. Kirsten cleared it though that they are not a recruitment agency. The agency only assists all those individuals who are interested to study in the United Kingdom. They assist candidates in the acquisition of their student visa to the United Kingdom. The study schedule of the students gives them enough time to work part time and earn enough to support their education.

In the said program, the students study in the UK for 2 years through the National Vocational Qualification (NVQ) program. While studying, a student can work and earn at the same time. A student can earn up to 900 pounds a month, which can help him pay for his tuition, living and personal expenses. The applicant has to be graduates of nursing, caregiving, practical nursing, nursing aide and other medical courses. Those who have caregiving work experience are also qualified to apply.  

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The NVQ Program is the fastest way to process one's visa to the UK. Once the required documents are completed and the corresponding fees are paid, an applicant can be flying to the UK in as fast as 3 months. An applicant who completed the 2 year course becomes a qualified senior carer, supervisor or manager in a care institute.

Kirsten requires that the applicant currently lives and is a bonafide resident of the Philippines. The program has no age limit and all those ineterested with relevant medical degree or training can apply.

Sources:

Kirsten Website - you may visit this site to get more information about the program.

Kirsten Welcome Page

Related References:

ImmigrationMatters.co.uk - UK's leading free online immigration resource.

Department for Innovation, Universities & Skills - UK's registry of education and training providers.

UK Border Agency - information on how to apply a working visa for the UK and other relevant information.

Discussion Boards:

Board Discussion 1

Board Discussion 2 - Message boards about experiences of other Filipino applicants in trying to secure a student visa with the help of Kirsten Student Development, Inc.

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ehtel 7 years ago

i have applied there and my visa is denied not because of the requirements but the answer they had put in the application form... you must be willing to wait im waiting for almost a year now and still nothing happens... if your lucky enough you will get your visa within 3 mos. if not more than 6 mos.


aj 7 years ago

Hi I was a previous applicant before, but for some reasons I withdrawn the said application.. Is it still possible for me to reapply again?


mars 7 years ago

thank to kirsten student development inc. my visa was approved and also for helping me pursuing my dreams. I know they did their best to help us Filipinos to explore more and be globally competitive. And As long as you did your part too to comply all of those requirements needed.Aside from that PRAYERS is the most indispensable matter to do first, throught with that.... ---everything is possible to happen.thank you to kirsten!


Yoyier 7 years ago

I decided to withdraw my application because I have waited for so long for the said date or expeccted date that I would be studying at UK, Kirsten's staff told me that it would only take 3 months maximum to wait for the decisions made by UK Care homes, but 3 months had passed, still no calls from the staff, so I phone called them and started to monitor any progress every week, stil no progress, then I decided to withdraw, for that reason I am still now waiting for my refund of the 70% of the total that I had paid from the Agency...


robert from ilo ilo 7 years ago

hi i was an applicant from kirsten and i was waiting for almost a year my visa was released but until now nothings happened kirsten is not good theyjust want money to earn fromus but not through helping us its been 3 months since my visa was released and utill now im still waiting for my home care address they said that our visa will be releases 2 to 3 months but you know it was released by 6 months and then they said ill just be waiting for a week or two weeks but until nw theres nothing happen so if i where you dont apply to kirsten


yanni 7 years ago

hello, i have heard of this agency just recently through a friend saying this agency is good but then there's an article about a probem they encountered regarding NVQ. i would like to know what's the real score of kirsten in helping deploy nurses for the UK.thanks.


yanni 7 years ago

hello, i have heard of this agency just recently through a friend saying this agency is good but then there's an article about a probem they encountered regarding NVQ. i would like to know what's the real score of kirsten in helping deploy nurses for the UK.thanks.


nigel balanza 6 years ago

whre are you located in the phillipines


ngd 6 years ago

am already in the uk for more than 4 months on a three-year student visa. so far, kirstin is alright although i've waited for a little more than a year since applying. my only comment is that our arrival here in the uk was not properly coordinated between kirstin and the school. but so far, everything's fine to date. just try your luck and be patient.


Len  6 years ago

Hi! I'm also an applicant from kirsten, it took 6 months before I was issued a student visa... and mind you guys its almost a year now since I applied in this agency and until now I'm still waiting for the accommodation and the nursing home... almost everyday I'm calling the agency to follow-up and check but all they can say is "maghintay"... "Ala pa name mo sa groupings, pagkasama ka tatawagan ka namin".... Hay!!! But guess what? during the orientation they would tell you upon approval of your visa, it would only take 2-3months waiting time for the accommodation and the nursing home then fly ka na UK... Its almost five months now that I already received my visa... still, wait lang din ang sasabihin syo?!? 6 months to get a visa plus 5 months of waiting for the accommodation... how long have I've been waiting? Till now, ala parin accommodation and nursing home? hope there would be a good samaritan who can help us applicants of kirsten in legal ways... Legal pa ba itong ginagawa nila sa amin? Is there any government agency na pwede naming malapitan pra ma-aksyonan lahat ng ito?


lyn 6 years ago

helo sa aplicants ng kirsten..balak ko rin kasing mgaply s kirsten..pls.giv me sum info's and guidelines how to aply..pagpnta b sa agency lgng me orientation dun?.


nel 6 years ago

Im planning to apply at kirsten but I still have doubts. based sa mga comments nyo I think its not a good agency, yet i found out that they lowest processing rate and show money rate.. and they have good offers too.. sana lang totoo yun. @ lyn punta ka lang dun everyday my orientation..


ukstudent1010 6 years ago

Len, your school is probably suspended kaya its been awhile na hindi kapa pinapaalis kahit may visa ka na... verify with the embassy or kung saan man registered if suspended or not kasi from what i hear if suspended ang school mo u wont be able to enter uk anyway... in which case kung nagpumilit kang umalis baka pauwiin ka din pagdating dito sa immigration... kaya if suspended wait for them para ma-lift ang suspension before u could travel.

another thing kaya di ka rin pinapaalis is baka naubusan ka ng slot sa school mo...kasi sabi sa school ko may number of student lang ang pwdi nila iaccept...kaya yung sa school namin, yung mga nagre renew for nvq3or4 hindi na pwdi dahil wala na daw slot.

And another thing, think again if gusto mo pa talaga tumuloy dito... because if u are to follow the work hours of a student u wont be able to survive... A care assistants rate is 5.93to6/hour, u are only allowed 20hours/week during term time, thats around 130 sterling pounds, less deductions of 25% to 27%, net pay is around 98. Accomodation per week is around 50to 60, food mga 20t030, transpo 10to20. so its either nakasobra kang ng 20 or mag-abono kapa. So imagine kung nagbayad ka ng placemnt fee, isipin mo kung mababawi mo ba yun during your study...

Then u are required to attend the 15hours of organized classroom study...what if country side ka nilagay for your placement, gastos nanaman sa pasahe papunta school.I got here last december 09, pagdating ko dito sabi kailangan na mag report sa school every week pero nung nasa pinas ako sabi nila no need pro pagdating dito iba ang sinasabi... nung nasa pinas ako sabi maka trabaho ng 40hour, pagdating dito bawal yon, 20hour/week lang...pwdi naman mag 40 din pero pag nahuli ka sa immigration pwdi kanselahan ang visa mo at pauwiin ka...so its up to u...Very strict ang immigration ngayon kaya ang hirap ng buhay dito...its aLL LIEs when they say u can earn 900pounds per month... They misled us..

Anyway, sa ibang school ako and at this time suspended din ang school namin.


ukstudent1010 6 years ago

Advise ko lang base on my own personal experience and situation as a student carer here in uk... Huwag na po kayong pupunta dito... dusa lang kung student visa lang ang hawak nyo... ang yumayaman lang ang agency at school na babayaran mo... ikaw bilang estudyante, magpapakapagod ka lang para mabayaran sila at pag-uwi mo its either break even ka lang sa nagastos mo sa kanila or baka may utang ka pa


jasmine 6 years ago

don't apply in this agency kung ayaw mo masira lahat ng plans mo.. I attended their orientation last feb.2009 they offered me a working permit and ask me to take IELTS after passing the exam. d pa pla sila pwede magoffer working permit. Sobrah gastos at abala sa tym!!!

pero wala ako magawa kc bayad ko na ang lahat and so bumalik me sa offer nilang student visa.A month after our appearance to embassy almost all of the applicats of kirsten was refused!!!

they suggested na mag reapply nalang and another visa fee again.. But we don't have the choice kaya go pa rin.. and after 3 months ng paghihintay we are still waiting sa hindi namin alam kung meron pa. I wanted to apply sa iba pero wala nasa embassy ang lahat ng original documents nmin..and sobrang malas lang na i resigned from my work dahil sa pagaakalang 3months maximum processing ng kirsten. don't apply!!! I'm planning to pull out my application kahit na 70% lng marefund.


lynsky 6 years ago

may bagong rules sila ....kailangan na ng English Exam. so lahat ng applicant stranded dahil hanggang ngayon kung anong English exam : IElts ba o Toefl. Hay naku i decided to pull out na lang after reading mga comments nyo d2.


mel 6 years ago

haay ako rin mag pull out na rin ako


king son 6 years ago

so meaning kawawa lang tayo pag pumunta. pero pano pag may tutulong din sayo magka work at mag lead sayo dun


lovely27 6 years ago

hi im from bulacan... im planning to apply in kirsten, peo sa mga nababasa ko now parang naghehesitate n ko.. peo i want to work in UK., give some advice naman po...d po b talaga 3 months ang prosessing and yung salary po..kamusta...hope may mag coment din na nandyan n sa uk please


lucky 6 years ago

ang pag abroad swerte lang ka c nung nag apply ako sa kirsten last 2007 la naman problema at naka pag work naman ako ng 40 hours at above minimum pa ang rate ko,nabayaran ko na nga mga utang ko dati...for me la dapat sisihin swerte swerte lang at tyaga.googluck nalang sa lahat.


jie 6 years ago

ung cuzin ko nkapunta n s UK last sept,student visa din ang hwak nya..once xang nadeny pero ng apply ulit..balak ko din sna mgapply kaso s mga coment ninyo,im starting to doubt d capabilty of kirsten..hai,wla n bng ibng agency n ngooffer ng student visa..??


gurli 6 years ago

im planning to apply,,but because of the negative feedbacks ive read,i've decided not to pursue it anymore!


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maldita04 6 years ago

22o poh ang lahat ng mga cnabi nyo..?? kse balak nmin ng classmate ku na magapplY dto sa kirsteN.. .sa mga nkapag apply. magkno poh ang nagastos nYO lahat2x..??


xyejay 6 years ago

nagastos? mejo mdami... mga 3500dollars. tapos 45k n visa application. tapos 5k n medical n expired n kc ang tagl n nming ngaantay.

waiting and waiting....

hindi ko alm kung ano b tlaga, kung cno ang my problema kirsten? wave? o ukba?


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maldita04 6 years ago

ganUn poh ba..?? so gang ngayon poh di prin kyo nkaka alis..? ahhhmmnn. ..nakaka takot na mag apply=[ ito poNG genesis assessment Inc kya try nyo poh.. nka post kse yan sa skuL nmin.. try poh inquire=]


amethyst14 6 years ago

eager ako na makarating sa UK... really wanted na mag-apply din sana pero sa mga comments na nabasa ko parang nanghina ako

at nawalang ng hope... >>>to kirsten: bakit naman kayo nagkaganyan?! ang daming umaasa sa tulong nyo, wag nyo naman sanang hayaan na masira ang mga dreams ng katulad kong gustong makarating at makapag-trabaho sa UK for our family...!!!


ginseng 6 years ago

to jasmine,..... parang mali ata ang comment mo??? working visa??? bakit hindi naman recruitment agency ang KIRSTEN a bakit working visa??? nakinig ka ba sa orientation??? ayan kasi dapat makinig sa orientation.... at sa mga negative comments talgang hindi para sa inyo ang pagpunta sa UK... I am from KIRSTEN nasa Scotland ako ngayon and I am a Senior Carer na applying for my working visa as a Nurse Supervisor of my Nursing care home... in fairness sa Kirsten malaki ang naitulong nila sa akin. Be optimistic lang kasi wag kayong susuko pero kung sa start pa lang ng application nyo nega na kagad kayo well wag na lang kayo talaga mag apply kasi cgurado yan nega din ang magiging result ninyo....You have to be emotionally and financially ready.... remember that the only way to gain success is sacrifice... like wat i did.... Thank you KIRSTEN...


rene 6 years ago

to ginseng.. i do have problems s present agency k due to changes of fees halos every month ngbabago un fees na kun tutuusin nbayaran k na. I plan to withdraw all my money and transfer to another agency un nga un Kirsten. nag inquire k s kirsten at cnbe nga nila na my pending na 405 applicants s embassy ang kirsten at my 200 CAS na ibibigay until june 30, 2010. Kya napapaisip k, my frnd k na nsa uk under kirsten at ok nmn xa. Pro s dme ng applicants na nka pending ngaun npapaisip tlg k. If ever s kirsten k lumipat ayaw k na mgkmali ulit dhil galing n k s ibng agency.


AJ 6 years ago

hi there... its my 3rd month here in UK.. and kami ang last batch ng NVQ...

eto kasi nangyari.. nag apply ako sa Kirsten February 2009,, refused agad ako nung march 2009... SWERTE.. kasi libre ang Appeal... and magaling mahandle ang Kirsten sa Appeal.. kaya na overturned yung decision.. and got my VISA September 2009.. hayun.. at after nun.. nagiba na ang regulations ng UKBA.. wala na ang NVQ.. pinalitian ng PBS.. which is medyo ayos pa.. na may 40 hours din sila yun nga lang need nilang pumunta sa WAVE TRAINING (which is the school) para magaral... naku.. pamasahe palang patay kana!!!

so from september 2009 na nagkavisa ako.. hintay daw ako din ng maximum 2mos.. hintay naman ako... and.. guess what..??? siempre.. walang nangyari... naabutan ko ang Pasko, New Year, Fiesta sa amin... 6 mos ank naghintay until nalaman ko nalang na may meeting or may good news sa Care Home ko.. NOTE: ako ang tumawag sa office at kung di ako tumawag di ko malalaman na may good news pala... at di ako naka attend ng meeeting daw na kinontak lahat ng may VISA na naghihintay ng tawag nila... ang dami nilang palusot or dahilan... wow naman... buti daw pala 6mos lang ako nghintay.. 7mos pa nga daw yung iba.. hala! at ipinagmalaki pa nila na may 7mos nang naghihintay ng care home at accomodation para makaalis...

pero hayun.. ayos lang.. that was March 8.. nung pumunta ako ng Kirsten.. knowing ang dami pala namin.. 150 plus daw... at everything was smooth na after that.. maliban lang sa mga payments na sobrang mahal...

Re Medical Php. 3,500

Courier Fee Php. 5,000 (unexpected na gastos to)

PLane Ticket USD 1,500 ($1,200 lang daw dapat)

tapos sabi nila ang pocket money ay $750.. pero nung bago kami umalis sa briefing nmin $1000 pala or more.. dhil kailangan ang pera pagdating ng UK... dahil lahat ay babayaran mo dito.. nastay kami sa hostel for 4days at kami ang nagbabayad dun per night is 15pounds.. wala pang pagkain yun.. at naghintay pa kami ng mga kabatch ko ng 3weeks before tawagan ng CareHome namin...

pero salamat din at 40hours parin an work namin.. and yung 900pounds a month ay nakukuha din at minsan ay sobra pa.. 1200 ang pinakamalaki na sahod ko..dami ng deductions at school fee..

eto ang mga gastos sa UK..

bahay 160

food 40

Tax 105

National Insurance 60

fare 50

kuryente at tubig, gas 20

Monthly fee (school) 108

543 pounds lahat yun... kung may 1000 pounds ka bale mahigit 400pounds nalang ang matitira sayo.. which is ayos na rin..

basta kung pupunta kayo ditto.. ang pagaaral dapat ang priority.. second prize nalang ang work..

lahat ng pagtitiyga ay meron ding kaakibat na magandang bunga.. basta lahat depende sa RULES ng UKBA, ang mga PAPERS mo, ang PERAng pambayad mo, ang SCHOOL mo dito.. ang RULES ng HOME OFFICE ng UK... at TIYAGA sa PAGHIHINTAY sa KIRSTEN...

inabot ako ng halos 400thousand pesos... isat kalahating taon.. at di mabilang bilang na DASAL...

sabi nga ng IMMIGRATION MATTERS... dont go here (UK)... its HELL now here!!! (due to tight rules they are implementing) http://www.immigrationmatters.co.uk/


kuth 6 years ago

walng kwenta ang kirsten student developmnt inc.ang bilis maningil pero pg pull out mo na aabutin kpa ng taon!!hndi sila naawa sa mga client nila,,di ba nila iniisip na hnram lng nmin ang pera tas gnun ggwn samin!!!....


frank 6 years ago

hahahaha wala ba kwenta e di sa iba mag apply para malaman din natin kung ganu sila ka walang kwenta hahahaha... first timer ka kuth ano??? weather weather lang yan... kirsten is my 3rd agency and so far kirsten lang ang may maayos na system mura pa.... malas lang ng hindi makahintay....


ginseng 6 years ago

to rene.... i called kirsten yesterday yong 400 plus nila na naiwan na files daw ay lumalabas na...yang 200 slots na yan ay ang unang batch na ipapasok nila sa embassy by the end of july... bakit ka naman nagdadalawang isip??? baka hindi nila ma accommodate??? kami dati sobra 300plus sa isang buwan hinati nila in to 4 batches at nakaalis din kami within 2 months lang... ask ka ulit sa kirsten para sa lahat ng details....


curious 6 years ago

Hi may itatanong lang sana ako sa nga bagong alis lang, meron din ba kayong CAS(CONFIRMATION ACCEPTANCE OF STUDY) na hinintay? Refused kasi ang application ng kapatid ko, so ng KIRSTEN ay dapat hintayin ung CAS na yan bago pwede sila magre-apply ng visa. sino ba sa inyo ang may CAS na natanggap? at talagang sure ba ang pagpapaalis ng KIRSTEN sa taon na ito, kasi balita namin ay medyo mahigpit na daw ung embassy, at may nagsasabi din na hindi na tumatanggap ang UK mga student, which is true? please more experiences regarding this... salamat..


rose 6 years ago

i widraw my application last april. Sabi nila ibalik ang pera after 2 months but until now wait ako nang wait walang balita. Ano pa ba hinihintay nila? kailangan pa ba eh call attention ni Pres. noy? Madam ibalik mo na and pera namin. Bumabayad kami ng malaking interest. Ano pa ba ang hinihintay mo?


curious 6 years ago

hay naku parang gusto ko na nga din i withdraw ung pera sa kapatid ko... malaki ang mababawas. sayang ang pera tapos ngayon sa withdrawal eh matagal pa bago nila ibalik? talagang hindi na sila naawa sa mga taong nag-apply na karamihan eh inutang lamang.

@ROSE- ano ba sabi bat matagal ang pagrelease ng pera? at magkono ang marerefund mo?


problematic too 6 years ago

70% lang ang marerefund, but i doubt kung maibibigay nilang buo yan, baka sequestered pa, lokohan na to. di nga sila nagpapasweldo sa tamang oras sa mga tauhan nila, so most likely na matatagalan pa talaga na maibabalik ang pera. baka naghihintay si madam na ipaimbestigador siya.


vince zennah torralba 6 years ago

swerte-swertehan lng yan, i arrived here in uk march 2009, so far so good. ok namn ang kirsten na agency pag dating ko dto my work kaagad mg hintay lang nang crb un lng tapos work kana. ngayon talaga mahigpit na ang immigration.


Joy 6 years ago

Kirsten Student Development grabeeehh at first sobrang good nila. Pag nag attend ka nang orientation talagang maganda. So ayon nag bayad ako, at first $500 so after few days may nag txt na this is from kirsten remind ko lang po kayo for the 2nd payment which is $1250 deadline you eto... so bayad ulit ako, after a few days again may nag txt na naman na remind for the 3rd payment so nag bayad ako nang $1,250, tapos may 46,800 pesos for the medical and visa fee. I paid everything in 1 month para hindi ko ma abotan yong oct. which is may new rule yong UK. By Aug. tapos nang lahat payment ko at naka submit na ako nang lahat nang requirements so i was expecting na im waiting na for my visa letter, so when i called up para follow up sana nalaman ko na may new rule daw yong WAVE web cam interview which is wlang kwenta kasi hindi naman nila e sinali pag submit sa embassy. So ayon nag antay ako hangang dec. bago may visa letter. So after my appearance nag hantay ako nang 6 months bago yong result which is refused. So i decided na mag pa refund ako, 2 months in waiting pero kahit isa wlang nag attempt na mag contact sa akin. Siguro naman dapat silang maging mabuti sa mga applicant kasi hindi basta2x yong ginastos namin. Nag bayad ako lahat sa isang buwan, tapos pag refund ang tagal. Siguro nag aantay yong kirsten na mabalita sa TV (Imbestigador o di kaya sa XXX) Madam isauli nyo na pera namin, ikaw ang nag papaka sawa sa pero namin sana ma awa naman kayo. Hindi bero yong ginastos namin....sana sa oras nang bayaran dapat mabilis din kayo, at saka yong mga contact numbers nila sa website nila wlang kwenta hindi na ma contact.


problematic too 6 years ago

@ joy mabilis silang sumingil pag refund ayan na, mukhang walang balak isoli ang pera, i also keep on contacting their numbers, puro answering machine. regarding sa pagrefund ng money, seek legal help na.


joy 6 years ago

@problematic too : balak ko talaga yan. Pero may gagawin muna ako bago yan. Kung alam lang sana nila yong mga utang na binabayaran ko. Sana isa uli na sana nila yong pera. Total in good faith na nag request ako na mag pa refund. Kung maka singil nga sila eh updated tagala. Pero pag katapos mo nang mag bayad, wla kanang update na matatangap sa kanila. Kung may kailangan ka dapat ikaw mag tanong at ikaw ang tumawag. pag hindi mo yan ginawa wla kang update tungol sa application nyo. Siguro dapat na siguro ma stop yong mga ginagawa nila. Tanggap ko na naman na hindi para sa akin ang UK kaya nga gusto ko nang mag pa refund para maka pag move on na ako at magamit ang pero sa ibang kabuluhan. So if ever may mga taga kirsten na maka basa nito gumising kayo at ibigay agad ang refund. mukha kayong pera.


joy 6 years ago

salahat nang nag apply nang kirsten at nag pa refund na but hindi tayo magkasundo para maghanap tayo nang lawyer para ma pa bilis yong refund natin. wla naman tayong ginawa sa kanila bat tayo pinapahirapan nila. yang si madam akala mo kung sinong ma bait yon pala demonyo din pala. may araw karin madam, yang tiyan mo lalaki payan...


problematic too 6 years ago

@joy demonyo talaga yang si madam, busted pala ang wave training, check nyo sa immigration matters, website yan, they even advised na yung mga hindi pa nakarating sa uk na irefund na kagad ang pera before its too late, malamang me mga tauhan yang demonyita na nagmomonitor sa mga hinaing natin dito sa site, sila pa me lakas loob na kesyo kausapin ang abogado nila, andami nilang mga anomalya eh. isa na dun yung photocopy receipt (kuno) worth 300, eh yung photocopy na ibinigay satin hindi nga siguro magkasya 50 pesos dun. yung receipt, hindi yun yung acceptable sa bir.


problematic too 6 years ago

@joy, sa immigration matters, me year kasi na 2008, yung 2010 ang hanapin mo, mababasa mo dun ang pinakalatest.


loko 6 years ago

grabe na to last apearance ko jan 26, 2010 hangang ngayon wala parin? anu ba ang nangyayari bakit walang masagot ang KIRSTEN? lage nalang sabi hintay ka lang??


yaku 6 years ago

magaling lang ang kirsten sa una,pero ngun nakuha na nla pera ntin kya wala na update galing sa knila gang sa mgwithdraw aqo..Mg 3 mos na ko ngwithdraw sa knila,pero gang ngun di pa binibigay ung pera na napakadali at napakabilis nakuha stin..di man lng iniisip ni madam na ngbabayad aqo or ung iba ng npkalaking interest...nababaon na ko sa utang...ok lng sna kung si madam ung mgbayad ng utang,pero ndi e...pahirapan tlaga.

wag na sna sila mghintay pa ng mgi2mbestiga para ndi lumabas at malaman ng madla ang panloloko ginagawa nla..madam ibigay nyo na pera nmin para mka move on na kme!!!!

sa mga gusto umapply ng student visa,wag nyo na ituloy o balakin pa... sa mga nka apply na at di inaapdate ng kirsten withdraw na!!!


joy 6 years ago

Oo nga eh sana may taga kirsten na maka basa nito para naman malaman nila. OO nakita ko yong kirsten sa isang web site sa immigration tungkol sa kanila. hay nako dapat na talaga nilang ibalik yong pera natin hindi basta2x ang pag hahanap natin sa pera na yon tapos kukunin lang nila nang basta2x. sana naman si madam ma.awa sa atin kasi in our part napaka bigat nang decision nato na mag withdraw sa laki nang atong na gastos. Kaya nga gusto naming mag pa refund para maka move on na kami at para ma stop na rin yong mga interest na binabayaran namin. Sana naman madam kung naniwala ka sa karma, matakot ka at ibalik na sa amin ang pera namin. Sa mga applicant nang kirsten na kasalukuyang nag process wag na kayong tumuloy at mag withdraw na kasi sa simula maganda ang pakikitungo nila pero pag tapos kanang mag bayad, gagawin nila ang lahat para ma delayed yong mga submission ng papers nyo. MadaM para wla nang gulo ibalik nyo na pera namin.


problematic too 6 years ago

i have a strong feeling that kirsten's staffs are monitoring this site, minomonitor nila tayo especially sa pwede nating gawin in the near future, especially sa gagawin natin against them. tuso sila kaya it is more likely na nagsesearch din sila ng katulad ng site na to para malaman nila ang mga sentiments ng mga aplikante nila, lalo na pag negative feedbacks para mapaghandaan ang pwede nilang ipanglaban sa atin, tusong unggoy si madam..


rachel 6 years ago

Madam, yung pera namin ibalik mo na, sige ka lalong lalaki yang ilong at tyan mo.


joy 6 years ago

@rachel: hehehe ilong lang at tiyan??? sa dami nang karma na aabutin niya iwan kulang kung anong sakit ang papunta sa kanya.

@problematic too: buti nga at mabasa nila para naman at least may idea na sila kung dapat na niba nilang isa uli yong pera natin. nag puta ako sa kirsten sabi nilang wla pa daw time fram ang refund. If mabuti sila hindi na agency, dapat esauli yong pera natin kasi sa laban na ito tayo ang kawawa.

@Madam: Sana kilabutan ka sa mga binagsasabi mo, esinasali mo pa and dyos sana naman madam ibalik nyo na po ang pera namin kasi yong utang namin palaki nang palaki. cge ka pag lumaki ang utang namin lalaki din yang ilong at tyan mo. so the more na matagalan palaki2x nang palaki din yan. warning lang madam wag mong antayin na marami ang magalit sayo baka pupulutin kayo sa kulungan


problematic too 6 years ago

@joy, me laban tayo kahit under sec pa sila, kasi it involves money, especially money natin yun. can i contact you personally, but how? gusto ko talaga makausap ka for details, kahit chat lang sana.


rachel 6 years ago

time frame ba? sino pinagloloko nila? hindi tayo tanga, hello. pera natin yun. ano to me time deposit? lahat ng dahilan ibabato nila para madelay pagrelease ng pera, delaying tactics nila yun. na kesyo ganito ganun. naku madam na malaki ang ilong at tiyan, wag mo nang hintayin na ipakulam kita, baka isang gabi, magigising ka na lang na me lalabas na insekto at uod sa lahat ng butas ng katawan mo, at magsusuka ka ng sariling dumi mo.. maling tao ang kinalaban mo, sumugal kami ng tama, pero ang pagtrato mo samin, parang ignorante kami.


joy 6 years ago

@problematic too: ano ba email ad mo para ma add kita sa ym ko...

@rachel: heheh tama yan pwede hindi lang si madam silang lahat. Ako nga eh sabi nang mama ko may lola daw ako from the mangkukulam island. hehehe May pa time frame pa silang nalalaman sa pag sauli sa pera natin. Sila yong nag papakasawa sa pera natin tayo naman nagpapaka sawa sa pag bayad nang utang... taga saan kayo? anong branch nang kirsten kayo nag apply?


problematic too 6 years ago

@joy, helen_tiples@yahoo.com

anytime online ako, dahil no work, sa bwisit na kirsten na yan


curious 6 years ago

sa lahat ng mga nagrefund, kasa na ako doon bat ayaw na natin humingi ng tulong like Tilfo, or XXX para mabulabog ang mga panloloko ng Kirsten na yan? magtulungan nalang tayo sa pagrereklamo para maipasara pati ang ageny na yan sa dami na nilang naloko... kawawa naman tayo...


curious 6 years ago

eto po ang mga hotline ng XXX( EXLUSIBONG EXLUSIBONG EXPOSE) 414-4539 at ang email ay xxx.abs.cbn.com

at ang isa naman ay sa

TUTOK TULFO action lines 0919-99TUTOK(88865)

email - tutoktulfo@tv5.com.ph

dito po tayo maaring hmingi ng tulong para maireklamo ang manlolokong agency na KIRSTEN, para mabigyan po tayo kaagad ng action ukol sa pag-refund ng pera natin...


joy 6 years ago

I am okay kung tayo lahat mag kaisa para ma solve na yong problema natin at para maka move on na tayo..


just call me.... mamamatay ako ng tao 4 only ksdi  6 years ago

to all stuff of ksdi mag umpisa na kayong magdsal isa isahin ko kayong lahat na patayin.... marami kyong kasalanan sa amain ang daming tao ang niloko nyo.... kaya dapat sa inyo mawala na ddi2 sa ibabaw ng lupa.... sa lahat ng stuff at unang una syo madam mandarambong.... pag wla pang fidbak sa lahat ng aming hinain wid in diz end of sept. 2010.... isa isa kayong maibabalita sa mga tv net. naging pawala ang buhay ko dahil sa inyo nawalan ako ng oras, panahon, lupa na mana ng aking magulang bago sumakabilang buhay ng dhil sa inyo at pera.... kya buhay ang mga kapalit ng lahat ng nawala sa akin


problematic too 6 years ago

consult a lawyer/counsel para makapagrefund kayo ng 100%, wag kayong pumayag na 70% lang, hindi pwede yun.


joy 6 years ago

i agree on that we demand 100% refund. In fact nag email ako sa wave ang sabi nila hindi pa daw sakop nila yong mga student na hindi pa naka punta doon. So that means we need to ask for the refund sa kirsten at wla nang iba. delaying tactics lang yan ni madam para sila ang makinabang sa pera natin. Ako din malaking pera ang nawala sa akin, at nag ka utang2x na nga ako. kaya dapat ibalik na nila pera natin para maka pag move on tayo. hayop talaga itong si madam wlang puso, ang bagay jan ipakulang.. to all kirsten student na nag ask for refund why not we make a group to file a case agiast this agency para naman malakas ang laban natin. just tell me what you think and lets plan for that.


problematic too 6 years ago

madam insisted na mahirap daw ang pagrefund kasi sa wave pa daw nila kukunin ang refund, kitam, napakasinungaling. na tayo pa daw dapat makiusap na tulungan niya tayo, manloloko itong malaking ilong na to. pag hindi niya naibalik ang pera natin na 100% humanda siya


joy 6 years ago

I send email to Wave at nag tanong ako sa kanila regarding sa refund ang sabi nila na sa kirsten tayo mag tanong for that matters kasi hindi pa daw sakop nila ang mga student na hindi pa naka punta sa UK.


problematic too 6 years ago

ang kapal talaga ng mukha ng babaeng yan. kung ano kinalaki ng ilong at tyan ganun din kalaki ng kasalanan nya.

@joy, iprint mo yung email ng wave sayo for a stronger evidence against kirsten, kasi for sure iiinsist pa rin niya na sa wave pa din kukunin ang pera.


problematic too 6 years ago

to all those who seek a refund, please keep your receipts, photocopy them, plus yung receipt nung photocopy nila sa mga docu's natin bago tayo nag appearance sa vfs.

ang kapal talaga ng mga mukha nila, yung lou din na yun na akala mo kung sino, sige magpakasaya lang kayo dahil bilang na rin ang araw niyo na malaya kayo, we will make sure you will rot in jail, pag nagtago naman kayo, i will make sure, na ang bagsik ng kulam ang hindi niyo matatakasan.


problematic too 6 years ago

i have a lawyer na, to those na gustong kumunsulta sakin, please inform me asap.


Joy 6 years ago

Ano nang balita about sa refund nyo?


problematic too 6 years ago

hindi pa rin nila sinasagot ang letter namin, so me gagawin kami ng lawyer ko which i can not reveal here dahil malamang minomonitor nila tayo.


joy 6 years ago

online po kayo pwede chat tayo?


joy 6 years ago

Good news my tinawagan ako kanina, they suggested me to some govt. agency to handle this matter. Kapag hindi nila binigay ang refund ko within Sept. Talagang gagawin ko talaga ang lahat para ma close na yang agency na yan at para naman ma bigyan nang Justice sa mga taong ang gusto lang ang maka raos sa buhay pero ang ginawa nila kinamkam lang ang pera natin.


problematic too 6 years ago

@joy, wait lang ha, dito kasi ako internet sa labas ng bahay, dahil nagpascan ako. chat tayo later pag uwi ko kagad.


problematic too 6 years ago

whoa!! nagpatawag na naman si madam for a meeting this friday, ano kayang kasinungalingan ang sasabihin na naman nun? napapraning na ba siya dahil sa dami ng reklamo at para huminahon ang mga kliyente eh sandamakmak na namang kasinungalingan at panloloko gagawin niya, go ahead madam, take your time. coz we will make sure you will pay. better go to hell


Joy 6 years ago

kumusta ang meeting yesterday???


problematic too 6 years ago

hindi ako umattend. try ko magtanong tanong kung ano na naman drama ng babaeng yun.


yaku 6 years ago

@joy & problematic: hi... lagi ba kayo ol? pde ba makuha email add nyo? tnx


joy 6 years ago

@yaku bat ask ka? sino po kayo?


problematic too 6 years ago

@yaku, y r u asking?


joy 6 years ago

kumusta na? ano nang result


problematic too 6 years ago

siguro nagtatanga tangahan sila, wala talagang intensyong ibalik ang pera.


joy 6 years ago

ano bang sabi nila? naka submit ka na nang demand letter from your lawyer? gusto talaga ni madam na ma tv siya para sikat.


yaku 6 years ago

@JOY & PROBLEMATIC; applicant din ako ng kirsten,,pero ngwithdraw na rin ako... mei hinihntay ba tau? kelangan cguro,mpg usapan na ntin to para mgawan ntin ng action... from where ba kau? gusto rin ng 1 kakilala ko na mghanap kme ng kasama para mkgawa ng action.


joy 6 years ago

manila applicant ako pero nasa cebu ako ngayon... ikaw taga saan kaba? pwede tayong mag tulungan. ilang buwan kana nag hihintay sa refund mo? anong situation mo?


joy 6 years ago

manila applicant ako pero nasa cebu ako ngayon... ikaw taga saan kaba? pwede tayong mag tulungan. ilang buwan kana nag hihintay sa refund mo? anong situation mo?


joy 6 years ago

please leave your email address para chat tayo...


problematic too 6 years ago

@ yaku, m from manila. so kelan ka ba nagwithdraw? ano ba sabi nila? pera na lang namin hinihintay namin.


joy 6 years ago

oo nga pera lang ang hinihintay namin kaso nga lang pinapahirapan kami nang kirsten andami nilang reason but delay... ma karma din yang malaking ilong na yan.


yaku 6 years ago

@joy & Problematic: 3 mos n ko nghihintay...un nga, wala ngyayari,,kelangan na cguro ntin magtulungan... sa manila lng din aqo... ngconsult kme ng 1 kakilala q din na ngwithdraw din sa 1 lawyer sa poea... kuha nga daw tau ng lawyer en sampahan na ntin ng kaso... kau nu sa palagay nyo? kelangan lng cguro mgkita-kita tau para mpag usapan ntin to... walang mangyayari stin kung di ntin actionan ang mga panloloko gnawa nila stin..

grabeh...ndi ko lubos maicp na kung gaano tau kbilis ngbayad kbaliktara nman ang gnawa ni madam...sobrang pagpapahirap na to...nu guys,magtulungan na tau...

@joy: kelan kb luwas ng manila?


yaku 6 years ago

@joy & prob: eto e add ko yaku10@yahoo.com

please guys,cooperate po para makuha na ntin ung nre2fund ntin...


joy 6 years ago

@yaku tama ka dyan, sa pag bayad natin isang buwan lang pero pag refund na ang pinag usapan ang tagal. tawag2x lang nang tawag pero ang sabi wla daw yong cashier. wla sa contract natin na ilang buwan. anong sabi nang lawyer mo? nag requeset na nga pala ako to add me sa messenger. just let me know when ka mag online para makapag chat tayo.


problematic too 6 years ago

@ yaku,if kukuha ka ng lawyer, would it be too costly? kasi baka mas malaki pa yung babayaran mo sa fees nila pag kinasuhan mo sila kesa sa refund mo. i mean you can get a lawyer to act as your counsel, para maibalik nila ang pera mo, pero pag sa oras na kasuhan mo sila, baka mas malaki pa yung gagastusin mo kesa sa pera na habol mo. ym also online anytime.


applicant/kirsten 6 years ago

kelan kaya magrerelease ang uk ng student visa? help naman, we've been waiting for it a long time na. me mga staff ba ang kirsten dito, do you have any idea kung kelan na kami magkakavisa.


joy 6 years ago

@applicant/kirsten: applicant din ako nang kirsten pero nag pa refund na ako. as for your visa wait ka lang kasi sa embassy yan pero if my problem ang school nang kirsten tiyak matatagalan yan. ako nag antay ako for 6 months bago lumabas ang result pero refused. Good luck nalang sayo.


yaku 6 years ago

@joy: nare2cv mo ba offline mes ko sau sa ym?


mai 6 years ago

lahat pa dito applicants ng kirsten? aprubado na ba visa niyo? kung nagparefund kayo, naibigay na ba nila pera niyo at magkano?


yen 6 years ago

Oh my! Andami palang kalokohan nitong Kirsten na ito, ako Feb pa nag withdraw ng application ko and until now wala pa ung refund ko! Ung attorney and ung Ms Lou na un lagi na lang nde mahagilap, sabi lumabas lang and call ako a few minutes pero after a few calls wala pa rin. They asked me to leave my contact number and namuti na mata ko pero wala naman tumawag!

@joy/yaku - Add ko kayo sa YM.


problematic too 6 years ago

@yen, pwede mo bang iinvite uli ako


yaku 6 years ago

@yen: gnun????? feb kp ng refund? omg! haaaaay.... nu action ba pwede ntin gawen? from wer k yen?


problematic too 6 years ago

@yen and yaku, pwede ba hingi ng email address niyo. need them ASAP


resho 6 years ago

bravoooo to all of you.... CONGRATULATIONS TO KIRSTEN STUDENT DEVELOPMENT INC. for having the approved VISA already...


resho 6 years ago

anyway sa lahat ng dumadakdak sino ba pumilit sa inyo na mag apply sa kirsten para mangutang kayo ng ganun kalaki???

well do whatever you want KIRSTEN will answer.... yong iba jan na bumabalik kasi may VISA na at may CAS na just try to talk to Madam kasi ako bumalik at tinanggap nya rin naman...mga tols wag puro dakdak gawin nyo na lang.kung para sa inyo ang UK talagang para sa inyo yan and swertehan lang yan.

Dapat din wag makitid ang utak kasi yan ang magiging hindrance e. Di ba sinabi sa inyo na ang magdedecide sa VISA ninyo ay ang embassy??? Wala tayong magagawa don kahit si P-Noy pa tawagin nyo.. so it's a matter of waiting lang naman pero malas ka lang kung hiniram mo lang ang pera kasi talagang hihintayin mo ang desisyon ng embassy jan..

You have to think and analyze situation naman minsan kasi minsan napapahiya din tayo sa hindi natin pagiisip. Be calm. Swerte din naman ako kasi nakapaghintay naman ako at may VISA na kahit na nagwithdraw ako pero tinanggap pa rin ako ng sinabi ko na wag na ituloy ang pag withdraw ko.

Kung di ka talaga makapaghintay then withdraw pero 2 months talaga yon. May process yan e kaya sundin mo na lang.Lahat may process hindi yan basta basta.

Kaya kayo wag puro dakdak gawin nyo para malaman natin kung sino ang tama at mali.


Joy 6 years ago

@Resho: Bago karn dumakdak mag basa ka muna. Sabi namin dito na tanggap na namin na ang UK hindi para sa amin, so we decided na mag pa refund na para maka pag move on na kami. So now we are requesting Kirsten to give the refund as soon as possible kasi wla naman sa agreement na we are going to wait for 2 to 3 months para sa refund. Yong pag bayad nga lang namin isang buwan lang pero pag refund bat matagal???

Good for you at my Visa ka na, of course tinanggap ka nila kasi mawawalan sila nang pera pag nag withdraw ka. Imagine they are going to ask you pag may visa na for additional $2000 kasi daw CAS na. Sino bang nag sabi na CAS na? Kung nakinig ka sa meeting if meron madam says the Embassy is requesting for updated Visa Letter for the 270 students. SO bakit naging CAS? Old applicant yon so bat may additional $2000???

Ikaw naman bago ka mag react read muna hindi parang gago na putak2x at daldal nang daldal. We just need our refund at anong paki mo kung hiniram namin ang pera namin? Yon kasi we need to invest for our future pero mali lang yong time at company na namipili namin kaya we ask kirsten to give our money back. Bat kukuha pa sila nang ilang 30% sa tuition fee nakapag aral naba kami sa UK? Ikaw kung wla kang visa anong gagawin mo?

Of course the visa is not in the Hands of kirsten, so now we just need our money back thats all. Sige comment ka pa at may reply ako sayo. Basa ka nang mabuti ha wag karn dak2x nang dakdak...


j-ak 6 years ago

concern lang po sa lahat ng mga nagpaparefund ng pera gawin nu lahat para makuha nu ung 100% na pera nu,sayang un..pag naka time deposit cla talagang matagal e release pera nu ..sabi ni madam pres.ng kirsten lahat ng 2hun.plus na may visa na..makakaalis daw ng madaling panahon,i dont know if its true..para saan kaya ung 2000 us dollar na un na sinisingil d kaya pambayad sa mga nagpaparefund ng pera? saan kaya pwede etanong tong 2000 us dollar na to


mimi 6 years ago

@j-ak, you mean naniningil another 2000 dollars? para saan? 2k is another big money, di kaya yung hinihingi nila eh pambayad sa mga nagpaparefund? the kirsten said para daw sa CAS un, pero bakit me CAS pa?


Joy 6 years ago

@mimi&j-ak: Nag attend po ako nang meeting regarding sa update na may "270" daw na request from the british embassy na updated visa letter. So sana totoo para naman maka alis na yong mga waiting an mga student. And as for the $2000 as for my understanding, kasi daw CAS na at mahal daw yon, pero ang request nang embassy visa letter dba at saka yong CAS bago pa yan at hindi pa sakop yong nag apply or waiting for the result sa kanilang visa application. Sabi ni madam additional sa tuition fee daw which is hindi niya ma explain. Wla naman sa contract yan so hindi dapat sakop yong new applicants.

As for the refund namin which nga namin makuha yong 100% pero hindi ko alam kung paano. Sa $3000 na binayad ko, $2100 ata yong matatanggap ko kasi daw may 30% na kinuha ang school pero hindi nila sinabi para saan. Wla naman sa contract na may 30% na kaltas. Bat aabutin pa nang 2-3 months yong refund sa pag bayad pa nga lang hindi inabot nang isang buwan... Sana ka sa lahat nang nag ma refund makuha natin at sa KIRSTEN STUDENT DEVELOPMENT ibalik na ninyo pera namin para maka pag move on na kami. Kami na ang humingi na sana ma.awa kayo sa amin.


problematic too 6 years ago

@ joy, have you read my offline messages? me lakad ako ngayon baka di ko na masagot mga messages mo.


joy 6 years ago

@problematic too: wla akong na received na offline message mo. Saan?


problematic too 6 years ago

@joy, sa ym mo. can i again ask for your email address para doon na lang kita kokontakin


mimi 6 years ago

VISA/Confirmation of Acceptance for Studies Letters

Please note that there are important changes that will affect all future visa extensions.

With effect from the 22nd February 2010 it will no longer be possible to use a visa letter when applying for a visa extension; instead you will need a Confirmation of Acceptance for Studies number.

Due to these changes, the last day that you can request a visa letter from the University is the 15th February 2010, after that date you will need to request a Confirmation of Acceptance for Studies and use the number given when you apply for a visa.

You will need to pay £10 for the Confirmation of Acceptance for Studies, this is the fee that the UKBA charges for each Confirmation of Acceptance for Studies that the University uses.

got it from this site

https://www.staffs.ac.uk/courses_and_study/student...


mimi 6 years ago

confirmation of acceptance for studies (CAS) is a 'virtual document' similar to a database record. It is assigned to a student when the education provider gives them an unconditional offer of a place on a course.

Each CAS has a unique reference number, and contains information about the course of study and the student's personal details.

Your education provider (also known as your 'Tier 4 sponsor') will provide you with your CAS reference number. They will also need to provide you with some of the information they used (such as the course details, the documents they used to assess your suitability, and the course fees) when they assigned the CAS to you. You will need this information when you apply to us.

A CAS is valid if it:

*

contains the same details as are in your passport; and

*

was assigned no more than six months before you apply to us; and

*

has not been withdrawn or cancelled by your education provider or by us.

If you do not use your CAS to apply to us during the six months after it is assigned to you, it will expire and you will need to get a new CAS from your education provider. If you apply to us using a CAS that has expired, we will refuse your application.

We or your education provider can withdraw or cancel a CAS at any time. You cannot use a withdrawn or cancelled CAS in an application to us.

Visa letters

Until 21 February 2010, migrants could apply to us under Tier 4 using a visa letter issued by their Tier 4 sponsor.

On 22 February 2010, CASs fully replaced visa letters. All Tier 4 applications must now be made using CASs.

got this nman from:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/studyingintheuk/...


joy 6 years ago

See ang mura lang pala nang CAS then why they ask for $2000??? But as for the meeting the embassy requested for the updated visa letter so siguro its not CAS...But as for my concern right now is for my refund. I need my money back as soon as possible


j-ak 6 years ago

nakakaloka yang 2000 us dollar na yan...ano ba talaga yan CAS or TUITION INCREASE...270 visa multiplied by 2000 us dollar magkano na yan....grabe!!!money making ba?????


resho 6 years ago

hahahaha tinawag akong gago...e ikaw ano ka??? pero nevermind di naman ako kasing tanga mo e.ay naku joy nahahalata kang tanga ka talaga...nandon ka ba talaga sa meeting??? mukhang nakikibalita ka lang e...kung nandon ka din bakit di ka nagsalita don???takot ka??? tapos matapang ka dito??? magpakilala ka...cge nga... yang si problematic too kilala na daw yan nila...they are still working para makilala ka joy...then you have to face the consequences of posting here...lahat ng information mo pinost mali...basahin mo nga website ng UKBA para malamn mo...tsaka pag nagapply ka sa uulitin wag kang mangutang para wala kang problema... ambisyosa ka kasi e kaya tingnan mo nangyari sayo... kasi pag tumagal sinisisi mo sa agency..anyway don sa 2thousand na increase hindi nyo na problema yon..poproblemahin na naming may visa yon...kaya mainggit kayo maghanap kayo ng agency na popoblema na naman sa inyo hahahaha....

si j-ak umeepal...bakit may visa ka rin ba??? sa ibang agency ka ano?? inggit ka??? hahahaha problema na namin yon hindi mo problema yon hahahahahaa

joy wag ka namang tanga ha.... tingnan mo sa website ng UKBA at sabi ng KIRSTEN kahit di man daw kayo magpakilala alam na nila kung sino kayo....


joy 6 years ago

@resho: sino kaya ang tanga sa atin?? ang gusto lang namin makuha ang refund namin yon lang. Bakit anong masama kung dito ako nag sasalita?? its our way to express our feelings. Good for you at may visa ka. At anong paki mo kung inutang ko ang pera ko? Lahat tayo may ambisyon akala mo kung sino ka. As for kirsten good for them at nabasa nila to. At least they know kung ano dapat nilang gawin. Hindi na nila dapat pinapatagal ang refund. Yon lang ang concern namin. Kaya nga may mga blogsites para maka post kami kung ano ang nsa puso namin at sa palagay namin na hindi tama. Anyway ayaw ko nang makipagtalo sa mga taong wlang utak. For kirsten congratulation sa mga visa na tanggap nyo. So now may mga visa na mga student may 2000$ na kayo na makukuha so refund na ok....


resho 6 years ago

gusto mo palang makuha refund mo bakit pati ang problema namin pinapakialaman mo??? wag ka kasi dumakdak dito pumunta ka sa kanila at don ka magsabi sa lahat ng hinaing mo...hindi ka pinipigilan na magpost dito pero may nagawa ba to sa palagay mo??? sa lahat ng post mo lalo lang hihintayin ng kirsten na lumapit ka sa kanila...at pede nila gamitin ang lahat ng pinost mo against you kaya lalo ka lang mabubulok sa problema...hindi mo ba na gegets ang ibig kong sabihin??? ako na nga nakiki simpatya at nagtuturo ng tama mong gawin tapos sabihan mo akong gago??? e ikaw ano ka??? at isa pa akala mo sa $2000 para sayo?? e kung tulungan ko kaya ang kirsten na hanapin ka...sa palagay mo di nila natitrace?? kaya mag ingat ka sa mga sinasabi mo baka yong refund mo kulang pa sa LIBEL CASE na isasampa syo... o baka di mo rin alam yon??? ayoko rin makipag usap na sayo kasi sumasagad na pagkatanga mo e....


joy 6 years ago

@resho: just keep your money kasi for sure gagamitin mo yan. yan napakita mo tuloy na taga kirsten ka... Cge mag kita nalang tayo para mas maganda... Met me at robinson malate tomorrow sa may wga office. Kasi gago ka.


resho 6 years ago

@joy bakit don??? takot ka ba?? bakit di tayo magkita sa kirsten??? don mo sabihin ng lahat ng dakdak mo??? they are waiting for you joy..you and your friend problematic hanggat di kayo nagpapakita di nila matutugunan ang refund ninyo...ngayon malaki ang problema na haharapin mo..don ka dumakdak...ooopsss what a term gago??? hahaha di ako papatol sayo joy.. buti nga nag withdraw ka kasi that kind of behavior is not acceptable in UK... kawawa ka naman you are in a big trouble now....i can join kirsten in filing LIBERL CASE against you for calling me GAGO... cge go on we will just print this and bring this in court..see you soon...SA KIRSTEN OFFICE HA!!!


Joy 6 years ago

@resho: Hindi ako takot bakit naman ako matatakot e wla naman akong ginawa. Libel lang ba ang panakot mo sa akin? Kawawa naman kayo para lang matahimik ang mga student na nag request nang refund. Paano kasi pag pupunta kami sa office andaming mga reason why delay yong reply. Parang ginagago nyo lang kami. Sige hanapin mo kami ha, pati ikaw mag sampa ka nang libel takot na takot ako sayo.. Pag tota ang isang tao tota din ang ugali... hahaha kakatawa..... by the way balik ako wed sa office punta ka ha para mag met tayo tapos handa mo nalng yong Libel case mo at ill do mine as well


@joy 6 years ago

ok joy see you soon magpakilala ka ha...at sabihin mo rin na ikaw ang nagsusulat dito tingnan natin ang tapang mo.... i'm really eager to see you...i will do that joy to give you the best lesson you will regret in your entire life...


Bessie 6 years ago

Cool lang kayo guys, you should understand din ung feeling nila ,they needed the money and they are frustrated na parang feeling nila pinagtataguan sila, well ako im planning din sana sa agency na to, kaya its helpful to see feedback like this, nasa akin nlang din kung im willing to take the risks involved, kaya this is healthy somehow sa mga gs2ng pumasok sa Uk student visa na tulad ko.. so guys keep posting about Positive/Negative feedback because this will help a lot of people like me..


resho 6 years ago

yeah right Bessy but these people are frustrated.. See all their posts?? I'm not saying na hindi ko sila naiintindihan..actually I tried to understand them but look tinawag pa akong GAGO??? and nagbabanta??? is this healthy?? what do you think??? tsk tsk they can't wait that's why nagkakaganito sila...ngayong mayron na development sa application namin then nag sa sour grapings??? well since sinama nya ako sa kalokohan nya at pagiging ignorante sa consequences ng pagpost dito well sasama ako sa KIRSTEN para mabigyan sya ng lesson nya.These kind of people should not be tolerated because of their ignorance.Hindi ako nagbabanta, sinasabi ko na ang haharapin nya kaya pagdusahan nya. Nagkamali lang sya sa kakataluhin nya.


joy 6 years ago

@resho: ikaw ang na una sa pag pang lait sa amin, e kung natama.an ka sa gago di gago ka... sino ba naman ang maysabi na mag post ka nang reply wla naman dba? May visa ka dba? do just shut up nalang....sa pagsasalita ko na gago ka? complete mo ba sinabi ko? look file ka nang case tingnan ko rin if may maniniwala sayo. At saka bat kaba affected????


Juls 6 years ago

haY nako kirsten talaga, ibigay nyo na kasi hiningi nila. bat pa kasi ang tagal, yan tuloy nag away away na mga student nyo dito. Joy i understand what you feel go for it. And for this stupid resho wag ka nalang maki alam pasipsip pa kasi eh.


Juls 6 years ago

haY nako kirsten talaga, ibigay nyo na kasi hiningi nila. bat pa kasi ang tagal, yan tuloy nag away away na mga student nyo dito. Joy i understand what you feel go for it. And for this stupid resho wag ka nalang maki alam pasipsip pa kasi eh.


resho 6 years ago

hoy juls..this is not the right way to refund...pati ikaw umeepal din??? ano pakialam mo ba?? nag refund ka din ba?? gusto mo rin sumama sa kanila??? inggit lang yan..hahaha tsk tsk go for it nga e pero hanggang ngayon ayaw pa magpakilala ng mga yan... habang di sila lumalapit sa kirsten at magpakilala pano sila rerefund di ba??? naku paganagjin nyo naman utak nyo wag puro dakdak...poor people...


resho 6 years ago

ikaw joy sino nagsabi na tawagin mo akong gago??? wala di ba ikaw lang di ba??? at sa akala mo walang maniniwala, don ka nagkakamali kasi itong post mo ay napabigat na ebidensya..di ka talaga nag iisip ano??? binigay ko opinion ko sumagot ka ng GAGO and that's it.... o ngayon sabi mo punta ka sa KIRSTEN asan ka na kanina pa kita hinihintay don...magpakilala ka na ikaw si joy na nagpopost dito kung matapang ka...or else duwag ka pag hindi ka magpakilala... o di ba nahihirapan ka magrefund ngayon dahil sa pagpopost mo dito kasi akala mo tahimik lang ang kirsten....affected ako dahil ito yong agency na pinagkakatiwalaan namin hindi katulad nyo mga nega kayo kaya ayan nangyari sa inyo..ikaw epal juls ano problema mo?? bakit affected ka??? gusto mo sumama sa kanila??? e ano pakialam mo??? kung wala kang pera wag ka na ring maingay kasi baka pati ikaw maisama din..anong akala nyo hindi monitored mga IP address nyo dito??? sayang future nyo.


JOY 6 years ago

@ resho: sinu ba kasi nag sabi sayo na magsalita ka? Did we ask for your opinion? And do you think "gago" ground for libel? hahaha i was there at kirsten pero hindi ka nag pakita. Next time mag lagay ka nang name mo na ikaw si resho.Alam mo dapat marunong kayong tumanggap ng negative comments hindi parating positive comments. Kaya nga sikat ang kirsten diba kasi marming sumisira sa kanila. Pero like what madam said na tinggnan nyo kung ano ang kirsten ngayon.Bakit ka sobrang affected? Bat ka kahol nang kahol? Aso kaba nang kirsten? Monitored pala ang IP address. So tinatakot nyo kami? At bat naman sayang ang future namin, bakit kayo ba ang may hawak? May visa ka dba e di umalis ka na. Bakit pa kasi nakikisawsaw ka dito kung apektado ka at the end.

Just leave us. Good thing yong kirsten maka basa para naman ma bago nila yong services nila para ang mga pangyayari na naktulad nito hindi na maulit.


Cecil 6 years ago

magkano naba placement fee na hingi ng kirsten ngayon? 3 years pa din ba ang visa na ibinibigay nila?


resho 6 years ago

@ joy hahahahahahahaahhaha alam mo ang hirap mo talaga umintindi nabobobo na talaga ako sayo...this is a waste of time..you know what?you have to study again it is because you luck everything as in everything not only knowledge..hahaha you're so funny ako pa dapat magpakilala ha hahahahaahahhaha laugh out loud ako don ha..........anyway joy the only thing you have to keep in mind is think about yourself and your future...you have to be careful of what you are doing...i'm not threatening you i want you to foresee what will happen if you continue this nonsense thing....MAY NAGAWA BANG PAGBABAGO ANG PAGSULAT NG KUNG ANO ANO DITO??? DI BA HINDI KA PA RIN NAKAPAG REFUND??? hahahaha yan ang sinasabi ko hahahahahaha.....It's non of your business if I react..if you think you have the right to write anything here then I have the right of my own...DON'T YOU GET THE POINT??? POOR GIRL...hahahaha don't you worry everything is monitored and they are waiting for you LOSSER!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

@CEcil yup 3 years pa rin kasi VISA namin is 3 years and 6 months e...punta ka na lang sa ofis nila for orientation para malamn mo lahat lahat...


Ceci 6 years ago

@Resho:thnx for the reply, andito na ako sa UK, dati rin akong applcnt ng kirsten, curious lng ako kng booming pa din ba business nila. Pataas ng pataas yung singil nila, balita ko 500K pesos na dw yung placement? totoo ba toh? Siguraduhin nyo lng na ma'y work na kayo pagdating nyo dito...


AJ 6 years ago

Siguraduhin nyo na may extra money kayo pag pupunta dto... Ok? Dto ako sa UK... and ang alam ko by nov dating nang mga may visa na... Ready nyo agad pang ginaw! Anyway... My brother is still in the philippines and naka apply pa rin siya, Sana makapunta narin siya dto...

Tiyaga lang! Lalo na pagdating nyo dito... Pagdating nyo dito Wave na ang kausap nyo, hindi na ang Kirsten! And isa pa pala galingan nyo pagsagot sa immigration ok? Dapat confident! Mahigpit ang Home Office ngayon sa mga pumapasok dito sa UK...

Smart dapat lagi... Sa mga pupunta dito! Welcome to Great Britain!

And sa mga nagrerefund, siguro darating din yang time na makarefund kayo, lahat may rason.... ang kuya ko hindi ko lam if makakapunta pa siya.. I'm hoping na lahat ay masettle na... Para everybody happy!


resho 6 years ago

@cecil...on monday we will have an interview with the Southern Cross...sila ang employeer namin and others ay pupunta ng Apple Staffing Solution. Medyo tumaas nga and everybody is expecting na tataas talaga. So far ang ganun pa rin sa Kirsten na hindi ka aalis na wala kang Placement at Accomodation.

@ AJ yup Kirsten encourage us to bring more than the pocket money they required us. Talagang dapat smart and im practicing it now... Hehehee thanks AJ for the advices.

sa mga nag rerefund just wait for your time...for sure naman ibabalik nila yan kasi may schedule yan. Ok??? thanks to both of you.


Cecil 6 years ago

@Resho@ wat a coincidence, personal rin ako nag interview sa one of the nursing homes ng southern cross dito sa london, inoferran nga ako ng work permit pero tinanggihan ko kasi hospital ang target ko. Don't get me wrong, hndi ako nagyayabang pero gusto ko lng i.encourage kayo na ma'y hope at opportunity dito, the imprtnt thing is getting here first, den once andito ka na dahan dahan ka na maghanap ng employer na magbigay ng work permit, but for the mean time magtiis ka muna as student...

Natutuwa lng ako sa mga pinost nyo dyan, kasi ganyan din ako dati, hndi ko alam kng ano ang gagawin ko sa galit ko sa kirsten, lahat ng staff nila inaway ko na pati si maam maride... Kami yung batch na nagbankrupt yung school nila dito sa UK yung affinity pa, buti nlng naayos din ang problema... Pagdating mo dito you will just read back all of this and laugh at it...


Cecil 6 years ago

@Resho@ wat a coincidence, personal rin ako nag interview sa one of the nursing homes ng southern cross dito sa london, inoferran nga ako ng work permit pero tinanggihan ko kasi hospital ang target ko. Don't get me wrong, hndi ako nagyayabang pero gusto ko lng i.encourage kayo na ma'y hope at opportunity dito, the imprtnt thing is getting here first, den once andito ka na dahan dahan ka na maghanap ng employer na magbigay ng work permit, but for the mean time magtiis ka muna as student...

Natutuwa lng ako sa mga pinost nyo dyan, kasi ganyan din ako dati, hndi ko alam kng ano ang gagawin ko sa galit ko sa kirsten, lahat ng staff nila inaway ko na pati si maam maride... Kami yung batch na nagbankrupt yung school nila dito sa UK yung affinity pa, buti nlng naayos din ang problema... Pagdating mo dito you will just read back all of this and laugh at it...


AJ 6 years ago

I am a Southern Cross Healthcare employee... And malaki yung company na to... I think one of thr biggest sa care industry dto... Sana ay may mapunta dto sa HOME namin... Majority Filipino kami... And 2 yung uuwi dis november dahil di na sila nagrenew nang Visa nila... I hope may bagong PINOY ang pumunta sa HOME namin... Malaking pagbabago sa buhay ito... Lalo na ang mararanasan dto! May mga PINOY din na Manager... Yung previous HOME ko, PINAY ang manager and deputy manager... I hope makapunta na kayo dto... And isa pa! Stick with your contracted hours! Kung 25, 25 lang! Walang labis walang kulang... Para walang aberya! Ok?

I am AJ from Cambridge, I live with my MUM... if sa Southern Cross kayo, malaking bagay yun... Dahil all over UK may HOME sila.... Dati kasi nasa seaside ako... KENT ang place, then nagrequest ako ng transer dto sa Cambridge... At sa awa ng Diyos na grant naman!

Good Luck and Happy trip sa inyo.. If meron kayong mga tanong... Ask lang kayo, if try namin masagot kaming nandto para magkaidea nakyo... Im sure CECIL and ang iba pang makakabasa nito ay handa din tumulong sa mga papunta palang...

Ingat!


Cecil 6 years ago

To all of you der in the philippines na balak pa lng mag.apply dito for UK student visa, dis video might be helpful when deciding wat agency to choose: http://www.philippinechannel.tv/watch/v-237362?tit... ... Sa totoo lng muntik na rin ako nag.apply dyan sa ISA, nag backout lng ako kasi ang sobra ng placement fee nila, so be careful to all of you out there....


sweet 6 years ago

hello.. isa ako sa nag ka visa sa KSD noong sept 2010..

sa nov 1 and 8 ung mga aalis papuntang uk .. isa ako sa mga ito.. sa APLLE STAFFING SOLUTION, maganda ba d2? kasi nabalitaan ko madaming bumagsak sa SOUTHERN CROSS

>ano kadalasan ang mga tanong sa immigration?

> maganda ba sa APPLE STAFFING SOLUTION?

thank you..


sweet 6 years ago

hello.. isa ako sa nag ka visa sa KSD noong sept 2010..

sa nov 1 and 8 ung mga aalis papuntang uk .. isa ako sa mga ito.. sa APLLE STAFFING SOLUTION, maganda ba d2? kasi nabalitaan ko madaming bumagsak sa SOUTHERN CROSS

>ano kadalasan ang mga tanong sa immigration?

> maganda ba sa APPLE STAFFING SOLUTION?

thank you..


Aj 6 years ago

Hi...

Wala akong alamsa Apple solution... But sa immigration naman, ang tanong lang jan ehnu gagawin mosa uK, san ang skul mo, anu course mo, and dapat confident! Kahit mali ang english mo dapat masabi moang dapat masabi.... At kung di mo maintindihan ang tanong, paulit mo... Say "i beg ur pardon" or "sorry"walang masama kung ipapaulit mo, kaysa naman di mo masagot ng tama ang tanong... Ready your papers para kung may itanongman ready kaagad.... Tatanong din sa yo if magtatrabaho ka... Sabihin mo hindi! Kasi mgaaral ka!

Basta wag matakot sa immigration... Madmi lang talaga silang tanong, ang sabi nga ng isa kong colleague dto, nagaral daw nang psycho yangmga yan, kaya alam nila kung may itinatago ka...

Expect the unexpected pagdating dto sa UK... Although mahal ang cost of livng, nasa sa iyo nakung papano ka magtitipid... Kasi need pamagbayad ng monthly fee sa skul (WAVE TRAINING)


mae 6 years ago

is there a way na masara ang agency n2... piniperahan lng nila ang mga ng aapply sa knila...


new 6 years ago

@cecil: nice video, wla na po bang iba? dapat talaga mag ingat


Ms.W 6 years ago

Too good to be true. Beware of this Agency/Consultancy.


whocares 6 years ago

Tama, dapat mag ingat sa mga student consultancy. Dpatlang siguro that the POEA should investigate kasi mostly they are deploying workers palabas lang yong mga student visa. Collecting huge amount of money hakit nasa pinas pa. So to all applicant mag ingat sa mga consultancy. Kasi may good may bad din. Malas nyo pag na punta kayo sa bad. Sayang ang pera.


zah28 6 years ago

pwede bang malaman ang lagay ng mga napaalis na ng taga kirsten agency?ok ba napuntahan nio? anu balita?tnx


whocares 6 years ago

@zah28: If ako sayo, try to look for another agency, kasi they will collect $6000 and it will take a year or more para sa lahat. At pag request ka nang refund half lang yong makukuha mo. Kirsten should be reported to POEA because they are deploying students. Mga mukhang pera mga tao dyan especially the girl na malaki yong ilong at tiyan..hahahaha


zah28 6 years ago

@whocares: My alam ka ba na mas maliit na babayran kesa kirsten but sure na mapapaalis?tnx


whocares 6 years ago

@zah28: may narinig ako pero hindi ko alam kung anong name at saan pero here lang sa manila area. basta wag ka sa kirsten mukhang pera mga tao dyan. magaling kausap at first pero after all the payment you've made ikaw na follow sa status mo.


zah28 6 years ago

Ganun ba, kainis nakapag ielts na ko and may ist payment for reservation pwede pa naman makuha yun wala pa naman sila nastart sa pagprprocess ng papers ko so mababalik nila yun 500$ ko magbibigay lang me ng 1k tama db?


whocares 6 years ago

@zah28: at least hindi mo pa nabigay lahat nang payment. Kasi yong friend ko nag apply dyan, inabot nang more than 1 year para matapos lahat nang papers nya. kesyo ganito, ganyan. Ikaw kung gusto mong sumugal, siguro yong friend ko hindi nya luck yon baka ikaw swete mo. Pero advice ko lang if gusto mo talaga try to inquire other consultancy kasi may ibang consultacy did2 sa manila they will process the papers first you just need to pay a little but when the visa arrived you will pay everything so in that case hindi ka logi.


zah28 6 years ago

@whocares: if makakita naman ng mas mura inform mo naman me? san ka ba nagaaply for uk din tnx?


bob 6 years ago

@zah28: tama si whocares, frm kirsten din ako... it was really a nightmare with them, and dahil nakabayad na ako no choice na ako but to go ahead kasi if mag turn back ako lugi ako.. halos everyday ako tumawag o pupunta ng office nila para na rin akng mabaliw kng ano gawin ko.. in the end natanggap ko rin visa ko pero kahit ma'y visa ka na you still have to wait for a long long time and still mag follow up ka pa rin araw araw kasi ang tagal pa nila makapag deploy sa iyo at hawak nila passport at visa mo so wla kang magagawa and magdudusa ka pa rin kahit ma'y visa ka na...


whocares 6 years ago

@bob: yes tama ka dyan, ang problema lang kasi nang kirsten after you received the payment wla na ikaw na bahala mag follow for your application. And after you got your visa, you wait for 3 to 4 months for deployment plus my add on payment pa. Anyway good luck nlang sa mag apply sa kirsten.


zah28 6 years ago

Anyone po, may alam po ba kau ng ibang agency na nagpapaalis for uk? musta mga nasa uk na napaalis ng kirsten , tama bang 35hours ang oras ng work nio? may kinikita naman ba?tnx


whocares 6 years ago

@zah28: Yes may kita naman yong naka alis na. kaso ka lang yong pinabayaran mong tution fee mo dito na advance parang bali wla na kasi magbabayad ka parin nang tuition fee. Apply ka na lang doon para naman maranasan mo yong na experience nang iba. Ako nakikisimpatya lang ako sa friend ko kasi hindi bero ang ginastos nya. Good luck nalang sa Kirsten may araw din kayo. Bat kaya hindi na pansin na POEA yong pinag gagawa nyo.


Ms. W 6 years ago

Tama lang siguro na ma close yang kirsten na yan. Hayop ang mga tao dyan... beware of this agency


linhchiesz 6 years ago

galing na kami uk on student visa..wag na kau tumuloy kc mamatay kau s stress kung anu mngyayari sa inyo don..sino me alam dyan iba agebcy na papunta canada,australia or new zealand and switzerland kaya..thanks


Ms. W 6 years ago

Kung lang sana kung tumuloy kung hindi lang sana gahaman nang pera yong mga taong tutulong sana pero lalo pa nilang binaon sa untang yong mga student applicant. So be careful nalng to those who are planning to apply for a student visa. Wag kayong mag apply sa kirsten pera nyo lang habol nila.


kaye 5 years ago

@linhchiesz sa kirsten na agency ka dn ba ng apply nung nkapunta ka sa uk? balita ko kc mhirap mkhanap ng work ksi nka hold yung crv ng mga students nla ngayun dun...


HAPPI 5 years ago

hmm my isa pang agency n ganyan HAPPI agency...ngaply ako ng october 2009...nglodge kmi ng february.den lmbas result ko ng may 2010 and sadly denied ako..kc ngsara ung skul n inerolan ng agency nmin ung THE PRACTICAL DEVELOPMENT UNIT (tpdu).ang msama p dto kc wala kming nrefund as in wala miski piso.ang msama pa dto my mga ksabay pla kmi ng october pa nglodge sa agency nmin.den wen i had talked wid my fren n ngaaply din sa uk..e nadeny din pla in the same skul sa (tpdu).so kung magaaply kau ask for the skul n ppsukan nu.bka my background un n ntangalan ng license..


anton 5 years ago

Totoo ba na 35hours ang offer ng kirsten? kala ko anglegal na work na lang if u r student visa is 2ohours? sure ba na 35hours nlang? musta yun nakaalis ng nov 1 and nov8? tnx


uk_stud 5 years ago

madam maridee bayaran mo na tuition namin,wala pa natatanggap ang wave na binayad namin sa in u...mag uumpisa na pasok namin sa january 2011..dont wait na lahat ng pamilya namin puntahan ka dyan........


whocares 5 years ago

@Uk_stud: as expected ganyan talaga yong mangyayari. Kasi sa pagkaka alam ko, pag nasa UK kana your going to start paying your tuition fee. Try to ask wave if they received tuition fee from kirsten and you will know kahit isang peso na natanggap from kirsten ang masama pa nito, if your going to send email to wave they are going to forward it to kirsten. Good luck nalng sa mga applicant, at papa alis. To madam maridee may araw ka rin, karma ay darating din sayo.


@uk_stud 5 years ago

@whocares:walang payment na narereceived ang wave...matakot xa kc madami kami,kahit saan xa lupalop magpunta,d rin xa sasaya karma aabutin ng mga ganyang tao..gnagamit pati ang diyos..tsk!tsk!


whocares 5 years ago

@uk_stud: try to contact the wave to be sure. Yon ang sabi nang friend ko na nasa UK. nagtataka siya dahil wla silang tigil sa pagbabayad ng tuition fee. In fact sabi sa orientation na advance payment yan. Pero pagdating mo doon your going to start paying your tuition fee. Korek ka dyan ginagamit pa nya ang diyos sa kanyang pinagkakagawa. Siguro pag dumating na ang karma sa kanya ewan ko nlang. Pangit pa nang mukha, pangit pa ugali mukhang pera.


uk_stud 5 years ago

actually we met already the wave un nga sabi wala cla natanggap...alam ko nagbabasa c madam maridee d2 at mga empleyado nya..#@%^$#@3@@..@resho magpakilala ka nga kung anong batch ka,nabasa ko kc mga comments mo d2..sa mga nagpaparefund kunin nu mga pera nu kc walang bnayad sa wave,...


joy 5 years ago

Im back and it really nice to be back.

@resho: Olol ka tagalaga, for sure either tota ka nang kirsten or bayaran. Dont pretend na mayaman ka sige ka sample.

@Uk_stud: si madam wlang takot sa mga planong gagawin nyo. Kapal na kaya nang mukya dyan. Tingnan mo nga lumaki na yong mata at tyan nya tuloy parin sa mga modos nya.


concerned citizen 5 years ago

Naawa na lng ako sa inyo, mahirap talaga buhay dito sa UK. student visa holder din ako from kirsten. if ever na my chance na maghanap ng work sa ibang bansa doon na lng kau. 2 years na ako dito hindi ko pa nabayaran mga utang ko sa pinas....sayang nurse pa naman tau, ginawa lng nila tayong katulong, no choice dito na ako...


concerned citizen 5 years ago

Naawa na lng ako sa inyo, mahirap talaga buhay dito sa UK. student visa holder din ako from kirsten. if ever na my chance na maghanap ng work sa ibang bansa doon na lng kau. 2 years na ako dito hindi ko pa nabayaran mga utang ko sa pinas....sayang nurse pa naman tau, ginawa lng nila tayong katulong, no choice dito na ako...


Wla lang 5 years ago

Tama mahirap talaga ang buhay sa UK, pero bakit may mga taong gaya ni Madam na ginamit itong opportunity na maka kuha ng pera? Marami nang student from kirsten ay naghihirap sa UK. Anyway Karma is coming to Kirsten and to those people behind this scam.


linhchiesz 5 years ago

to kaye..oo kirsten din kmi..mdmi na kmi umuwi phrapan na kc don pg student kasi..takot na ang mga employer mgkuha ng worker if student visa...wan na kau mg spply if student visa..take it from me galing na me don..maghintay nalng tau till mg iba ang rules ng uk...


kaye 5 years ago

@linhchiesz ganun ba? matagal kna ba naka uwi? kaibigan ko kc nasa uk ngayun nung nov. lng nka alis hanggang ngayun daw wala pa cla work


bob 5 years ago

@kaye: ask ko lng, yung friend mo ba na dumating dito lst. nov. ay yun ba yung napunta sa birmingham?


SWEET 5 years ago

ako dumating ako nov8 d2 uk sa kristine laki ng binayad ko .. nag bayad ako to ffg.

>$3,000 TUITION FEE DAW

>P48,000 ADMITION FEE DAW

>P12,000 EMBASSY FILE

>P5,000 repeAT MEDICAL DAW

>$2,000-dagdag bayad daw

>$1,100- ticket

>P500 XEROX DAW

>P300 XEROX DAW

PAG DATING NAMIN D2 NALAMAN NAMIN WALA PALANG BINAYAD ANG KSD SA WAVE KAHIT NA MAG KANU....

ALAM BA NINYO NA ANG EMBASSY AY 10HOURS PER WEEK NA LANG ANG BINIBIGAY SA MAG STUDENT NGAYON... CHECK D NEW RULING.. MAHIGPIT NA NGAYON


rex 5 years ago

@SWEET kau ba yung sa birmingham na assign? naku, ang laki ng ngastos nyo sobra tlga ang KSD!! pgdating nyo me trbho na kau?


SWEET 5 years ago

malaki problema namin kasi napunta kasi sa agency d2 on call kami kaya yun 50 na kinuha sa amin nasa 15 pa lang work tas ung di pa naabot ung 35 a week, eto pa malupit mas malaki probleam ng iba na di work.. pero sabi ng wave underinvestigation daw ung employer so gagawan ng paraan kay lang kasi buwan pa hintay kay tiyaga talaga kami.. walang.. d2 na din may awa na lang diyos..


rex 5 years ago

@SWEET d pala kayo lahat jan me work? bakit daw underinvestagation? me ganun ba na pinaalis kayo ng kirsten tapos pg dating jan balewala lhat ng pangako nla? maawa nman sila d biro ang hirap at gastos


bob 5 years ago

@SWEET nagwork ka na ngayon? naka 35 hrs per wik ka pa ba? try nyo mag.apply sa ibang care home dito sa UK..

yung 20 hrs per wik is for student na below degree level ang course pero if degree level ka you can still do 20 hrs per wik.


kay 5 years ago

@bob hndi sa birmingham.. nasa london ata. nasa uk ka din ba?


linhchiesz 5 years ago

2kaye nung october p kmi umuwi...mdami kmi na umuwi..try nalng luck sa ibang place me alam ba kau pwede aplyan mga kabayan....


cherry 5 years ago

@linhchiesz ntapos mo po b yung visa mo bgo kayo nka uwi?


anton 5 years ago

so ibig sbihin lahat ng sinasabi ng kirsten di totoo/ di totoo na 35 hours pa offer nila?as in wla na tlgang kikitain kundi magbabayad ka lang sa kanila!


bob 5 years ago

@kay: yup, nasa uk rin, wla pa rin work yung frnd ko sa birmingham.. yung frnd mo sa london, nagstart na? nasa uk ka rin?

Try to listen to this from BBC Radio, it might be helpful information for those planning to come here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00xf5dy#synopsis


Joy 5 years ago

Sa wakas marami na yong lumabas para mag salita kung anong nangyari pagdating nila sa UK. So sa lahat na may planong mag apply sa kirsten mag isip kayo kasi hindi pero yong perang gagastosin tapos maghihirap kalang pagdating sa UK. So Ms. Maridee for sure mababasa mo to, mag isip ka kasi hindi lahat nang tao kaya mo. Darating din yong Karma mo at yang mga sinasabi mo na ganito ganyan. Pero iwan ko lang kung may takot ka sa karma kasi sa kapal na nang mukha mo hindi na siguro yan tatablan.


linhchies 5 years ago

yes kaye natapos namin...noong una 22o ung 35 hrs and more pero nung ngchange n ang rules need na umuwi ndi na kami ngrenew wla n kc kwenta if stay ka pa don eh....pg student visa kahit mga nkwork permit n ndi pa candidate for residency tagilid parin...lets wait nlang pg ngchange ang rules..sana... pra makpnta ulit don....


kaye 5 years ago

@bob wala dn wprk yung frend ko na pinangako ng kirsten, apply lng khit na ano me trabaho lng pambayad sa hauz nila. wla ako sa uk plano ko plang pumunta dun.


crazyK 5 years ago

hey guys..nag withdraw din ako more than 3 mos na wala pa din kasi inantay pa nila refund from wave..what should i do?, where can we seek help for this matters,


Joy 5 years ago

@crazyk: it will take longer mga 6 months siguro. How much na pala na bayad mo? Ako naka bayad na ako lahat2x and when i request for my refund $1500 lang ang naibalik. Gahaman sa pera mga tao dyan. Wave did not get any money from us, na sa kirsten lang yong pera pinapatagal lang nila para magamit. Try to ask your lawyer regarding that matter, and maybe if may kilala ka sa POEA, or anong govt. agency na pwede maka tulong lumapit ka para makahanap nang katapat yang kirsten na yan. babagsak rin yan madam na yan.


crazyK 5 years ago

@joy: thanks for the reply...lufeet nila...tagal kaya ng 6 months.sila nag eenjoy sa pera natin tapos tayo kawawa..pina atty mo ba sila bago mo nakuha refund mo?, tuition pa lang ang nabayaran ko pro malaki na din yon eh...


Joy 5 years ago

@crazyk:Oo pero nag isip ako matatagalan. Yong refund ko umabot nang 4 months bago na ibalik, yon nga lang sa $3000 ko $1500 nalang yong nakuha ko. Nasa aggrement kasi pero kung iisipin mo wla silang karapatan na kumuha kasi hindi naman sila nag bayad sa wave. Try to email wave for sure they will reply you that hindi pa sila naka tanggap nang payment mo. When you sign the papers for the refund my naka saad doon na hindi kana pwede mag file nang complaint from them. Mautak talaga sila pagdating sa pera. Pero for sure one day makakahanap din sila nang katapat at pag dumating ang time na yon sana makulong na yong babaeng malaki ang ilong.


vic 5 years ago

guys, any news about sa mga nsa apple staffing solutions? ksi ang sabi aftr 2 months na pghihintay na mbgyan ng work ang masaklap na terminate dw yung contract nla.


bob 5 years ago

@vic: wat u meant ma-terminate contact nila? so meaning wla silang work dito sa UK since pagdating nila? pa.uwiin ba sila balik sa pinas?


kath 5 years ago

Concern lang ako s mga applicants, hindi ko alam kung tama nga itong pinasok ko s kirsten, puro prolema lng binigay nila s mga students n nandito s UK, the painful TRUTH is hindi nila binigay ang downpayment ng tuition fee s school provider at ngayon in 3yrs magbabayad ng monthly, wala ng natitira s kita ng mga namin. Kumita sila ng husto s mag pobreng applicante, at halos lahat naman tayo mag inutang lng ang pera. Sana magroon naman ng KUNSENSYA ang Kirsten. at maawa sa ibang tao...


vic  5 years ago

@bob ang sabi sa kirsten mghntay lng daw ng 4 to 5 months mghahanap dw cla ng ibang home care pra sana nka assign sana sa apple. d ko p alam kung pauuwiin ba cla.


vic  5 years ago

@bob ang sabi sa kirsten mghntay lng daw ng 4 to 5 months mghahanap dw cla ng ibang home care pra sana nka assign sana sa apple. d ko p alam kung pauuwiin ba cla.


Joy 5 years ago

To Madam hope you read all of this, hindi rin magtatagal babagsak karn!


aj 5 years ago

Hi! Balik ako sa site na to... Grabe na pla nangyayari. Try to apply sa ibang care homes... Some of them need nila ng carer asap! 07403 022259 txt me, may alam akong home na need ang carer, i can send you the application form.. Dto sa Cambridge ang Care Home.


andrew 5 years ago

@aj Ask ko lng if ma'y chances ba na magbigay ng work permit ang home na yan sa Cambridge? This year na kasi mag expire visa ko, ayaw ko na mag renew as student, sabi ko sa sarili ko uuwi na ako unless work permit ang offer pag re-new ko.. Totoo talaga yung mga claim nila jan, mahirap ang buhay student dito sa UK, parang biglang naging mababa tingin sa iyo if student visa ka lang..


AJ 5 years ago

@andrew, di sila nagbinigay ng work permit... Mahirap

Ng makakita ng home na nagbibigay ng work permit and sponsorship... Swertihan nalang yun ngayon..


andrew 5 years ago

@AJ sabi ko na nga ba... nag-take advantage din kasi mga employers dito sa dami na nga mga student visa, if magresign ka mabilis lng sila makahanap ng kapalit and they don't care about how long you've worked for them..


kaye 5 years ago

@AJ cn i hav ur email add pls? i hv something to ask lng kung ok lng nmn..


Joy 5 years ago

Nasa.an na kaya si resho, miss ko na yong tota nang kirsten. Sana hindi ka naghirap sa UK, mayaman ka naman dba? pero sayang lang yong pinag aralan mo baliwala din kasi hindi nag bibigay yong UK nang working visa. kawakawa ka naman kasi nag pa oto ka ni madam. yan tuloy. hahahaha reply ka pls


SWEET 5 years ago

ay naku!! nakakatawa baka si RESTO tiguk na din sa KSD.. tuta yun sa ofis nila...

halos lahat ng empleyado ng KSD resign na

>Paul

>Manny

>badeth

>sherwin

o halos wala na sila

ung tuta niyang matabang babae na lang ang natitira sa kanya ung saksakan ng tapang doon sa ofis.. akala mo kung sino sobrang taray e tuta lang naman


Joy 5 years ago

@sweet: ganun ba mabuti naman. Si resho hinahanap ko kasi pinagtanggol nya talaga ang KSD. How about yong baklang kunwari galing UK na palipatlipat at sa huli bumalik nang WAVE at nag papasalamat pa kunwari na tinulang siya ni madam. Eh si madam kaya makukulong kaya siya? ABANGAN.....


SWEET 5 years ago

tuta ni madam yun di namn 22o yun ganun din sinabi sa lahat.. di naman yata galing uk yun ,, pinulot lang yata yan sa kalsada ni madaam


AJ 5 years ago

@kaye, ajbel3@yahoo.com

Pasalamat parin at nakapagabroad... Depende lang talaga sa time and kung saang Home ka mapupunta...


Joy 5 years ago

Swerte yong unang naka alis yong hindi pa madaming changes sa rules nang UK. Nong sumikat ni ayon si madam grab kaagad yong oppurtunity para maka pera hindi man lang na awa pero for sure may karma yon.

@sweet: siguro tuta yon pero darating din ang panahon nang madam na yan....

SA LAHAT NANG NASA UK PABUTIHIN NYO LANG GOD KNOWS MAKAKA KITA DIN KAYO NANG WORKING PERMIT AT CARE HOME.


bob 5 years ago

ask ko lng sa mga students ng wave na andito na sa UK, mayroon na bang nakatapos ng NVQ nyo at nagka certificate na galing sa wave?


janz 5 years ago

haiz.. mas maraming negative comments compare sa positive.. ayoko n tuloy.. pero nandun n ung friend ko..


bob 5 years ago

@janz: kailan lng dumating yung friend mo? ma'y work na din ba cya tulad ng ipinangako ng kirsten?


Joy 5 years ago

Buti naman at marami nang nakapansin sa kabulukan na Kirsten. Hope marami pa yong mag labas nang salu.ubin para marami yong matulungan na hindi nalang tutuloy sa pag apply sa angeny na ito at lalo na sa president nila na ubod nang mukhang pera at sa mukha palang talagang expert sa pera at pangloloko.


madam akala ko matapang ka 5 years ago

madam, akala ko ba matapang ka? wala ka rin palang binatbat ng sugurin ka ah. kayo ni lou sus kung umasta kayo sa harap ng mga aplikante parang kayo ang hari sa mundo ah.

victims of this agency, be wiser, dont let them outwit you. most students that arrived in UK, andami sa kanila walang work pagdating dun, ang daming mga parents na nagrereklamo, eh etong si malaking ilong, paenglish english pang kausapin sila, magaling talagang magsalita na kesyo ganito ganun.

madam, are you planning to threaten us for posting our sentiments here? sana noon pa ginawa mo na, naghintay pa naman ako.


bob 5 years ago

babala ko lng sa lahat na papunta dito na southern cross ang employer, change your employer if possible kasi malapit na sila magbankrupt, you can check it in bbc yourself to confirm it...

sa tanong ko dati kung ma'y nagkacertificate na ba sa inyo sa wave 1 month ago, wla yata sumagot kasi wla pa ako ni isang kilala na under sa wave ang nagkacertificate kasi wla silang kwenta sa school pera lng ang habol nila, bsta naka direct debit ka lng sa kanila ok na, they don't care kng magkaroon ka ba ng certificate o wla...


bob 5 years ago

ito pala ang link, i-check nyo na lng: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12732098


Joy 5 years ago

Wow galing andami nang nag salita laban kay madam. Madami na tayong galit sa kanya. E kasi naman po kung tratuhin nyo yong mga applicant parang wla lang. E kasi pera lang ang habol nang malaking ilong na yan. May pananakot pa na mag demanda kasi sa mga pinagsusulat natin dito. Pero now at least marami na yong aware na hindi dapat pagkatiwala.an si madam at yang kanyang agency. Siguro nararapat na siguro na govt. should take an action at ipasara na ito. God bless sa ating lahat na lumalaban para sa katarungan.


madam akala ko matapang ka 5 years ago

@joy, nasaan na yung kaaway mo? hehehe. di sana noon pa nagdemanda na si madam against sa mga posers dito tutal sabi nila matatrace naman nila mga IP address dito, ganito na lang, madam, tutal nagbabasa kayo rito, copy paste mo lahat ng mga comments dito and tutal alam mo rin pala mga IP address, then magdala ka ng pinakamagaling na abogado na kilala mo at sabihin mo kung kelan kayo magkikita lahat ng nandito, kasuhan mo, pero dapat sa office ng NBI yung meeting place at me representative galing sa office ng POEA, BIR at SEC, as simple as that.


Joy 5 years ago

@madam akala ko matapang ka: hindi ko na alam nasaan na si resho ngayon siguro gising na siya sa katutuhanan na yong pinag tatanggol nya ay niloloko din pala siya. Anyway i agree on that, even me i am willing to face madam if "willing din siya na mag usap sa harap nang POEA, BIR at SEC. Imagine bago ka maka perma sa refund form you need to sign a papers na bawal na akong mag habol o mag demanda sa kanila. Anyway sana ma close na ang agency na to para wla nang maloko.


madam akala ko matapang ka 5 years ago

@joy, di ba siya kinikilabutan na pati ang Diyos dinadamay niya sa kasinungalingan niya.. well, a perfect liar can look you straight in the eye.. Madam, di mo ba alam na pati tauhan mo binubuking mga katiwalian mo? sus, mag ingat ka kasi mismong mga staff mo eh kinikwento kung pano niyo pineperahan mga aplikante niyo...


Joy 5 years ago

@madam akala ko matapang ka: tama yong mismong mga staff niya mag may applicant nagsasabi na na wag nalang etuloy. Siguro may awa yong mga staff niya hindi kagaya ni madam na wla na. Pero kahit gaano man siya kayaman ewan ko lang kung masaya siya. Tingnan mo yang tiyan na diba its unsual to see a girl na yong tiyan nya ganun... hahaha ilong pa nya e talagang ewan.... Sana makulong na siya para naman ma stop na yong pinag gagawa niya. Ang laking pera yong nawala sa akin, pero sa kanya nalang yon donation ko nalang yon pag wla na siya sa mundo baka yon lang yong kasiyahan nya na mag dusa yong iba.


madam akala ko matapang ka 5 years ago

@joy, di ka ba nagtataka, andami nyang pera pero di man lang niya nagawang ipaayos ilong niya tapos ipatingnan sa doctor tyan niya, o ipalipo kay belo. di man siya makulong pero di sya makakaligtas sa karma, karma's a bitch pa naman. pag matindi ang ginawa mo sa kapwa mo, matinding karma rin aabutin mo....

o sa mga tagapagtanggol niya, ipagtanggol niyo man siya hanggang kamatayan, di pa rin magbabago na me ginawang mali ang taong tinitingala niyo.


bob 5 years ago

huwag kayong mag.alala malapit na magsara yung kirsten, kasi no work placement allowed na sa student visa dito so for sure wla ng mag.apply diyan sa kanila.. sino bang gusto pumunta sa UK para mag.aral lng at hndi mag work?


sarah 5 years ago

IMMIGRATION MATTERS

Tier 4 student visa changes: Game Set and Match to Universities?

26 March 2011

As UK Home Secretary Theresa May announced sweeping plans to slash the number of student visas by up to 80,000 this Month, University Chancellors must be feeling relieved that whilst the government’s measures may not have served up the ‘match’ and delivered all they were lobbying for, they definitely have ‘advantage’ over their privately owned rivals.

May said that student visas were being abused and “too many were here to work and not to study”.

Summary of changes, welcomed by University representative group Universities UK, include:

Only students studying at universities and publicly funded colleges will be allowed to work. Students at private colleges will have no right to work.

Only postgraduate students at universities and government-sponsored students will be able to bring their dependants.

The maximum time limit on a student visa will be 3 years at lower levels and 5 years at higher levels.

Increased English language requirement with Students coming to study at degree level required to speak English at an ‘upper intermediate’ (B2) level, rather than the current ‘lower intermediate’ (B1) requirement

Tier 1 Post-study work route, which allows students 2 years to seek employment after their course, will close in April 2012, but graduates who have an offer of a skilled job from a sponsoring employer under Tier 2 will be able to switch.

The new rules, due to be implemented on 6 April 2011, clearly favour publicly owned universities and colleges in a number of areas including the right to work, dependants and post study options.

For instance, which option will you choose if you are a non-EU student faced with the following choices:

Private college (even with lower fees), but no work allowed and no dependants, or;

University, with higher fees but with the ability to work 20 hours per week and bring your dependant.

You don’t need a PhD to work it out!

Government funded institutions such as the University of Bedfordshire, which has increased the numbers of international students from 400 to over 4000 in the last few years, have faced stiff competition from private colleges offering similar courses with lower fees. Full story…

Other stories: http://www.immigrationmatters.co.uk/category/news


anne 5 years ago

guys, me nagfile na pala ng case against kay madam... hahahaha.. and you know what, lilipad pa daw sana siya sa canada para magtago, buti na lang eh naunahan siya ng mga niloko niya. and the battle begins.....


Joy 5 years ago

@anne: anong case mo yong naka file for madam? nka hold departure order po ba siya? hay salamat at may nag lakas nang loob para ma close at masara na yang kirsten na yan. Isa din po ako sa biktima nila, imagine nag bayad ako nang $3000 at ang nasa.uli sa akin $1500 nalang kasi daw may charges po daw. Pero wla akong magagawa nag sign nalang ako nang document kasi in need po talaga ako nang pera that time. Sana po masara na talaga at makulong si madam. Pwede ipamalita sa news para makita sa TV yong mga pinagkakagawa nila para mag bigay nang warning against this agency.


anne 5 years ago

@joy, me kaso na siya, isang aplikante ang nagfile, malamang estafa. naku madam, pano yan, staff mo nagbuking na hindi mo ibinayad yung 100% na tuition fee sa uk, diretso lahat sa bulsa mo. me paescape escape ka pa palang nalalaman. tama ang karamihan, sa mukha mo pa lang di na mapagkakatiwalaan, subjective na nga, naging objective na rin.


Joy 5 years ago

@Anne: wow galing nya ha mabuti naman. So paano yan madam malapit ng matapos yong maliligayang araw mo. Kahit mag pa change kapa nang mukha hindi na yan maayos kahit andami mo pang pera. Sana more student pa yong mag file para masaya.


anne 5 years ago

@joy, kung alam mo lang mga hinaing ng mga biktima niya dun sa UK, maaawa ka talaga. kitam nagpakasasa siya sa perang pinaghirapan ng iba.


Joy 5 years ago

@anne: Tama ka andaming naghirap sa ginawa niya. Pero mabait talaga si lord at gumawa siya nang para.an para matapos na to. Buti nlang wlang asawa si madam para siguro hindi siya ekahiya nang kanyang anak. Hindi lang yong mga student na nasa Uk pati nang nasa Pilipinas pa nag hirap kaya sa laki ba naman nang pera na pinagbabayad.


anne 5 years ago

@joy, nasaan na si resho, nabasa ko yung debate niyo. nasaan na tagapagtanggol ni madam.


Joy 5 years ago

@anne: Hindi ko alam kung nasaan na si resho baka na gising na sa katutuhanan na yong pinag tatanggol nya ay niloloko din pala siya. Kung baga gamitan lang pero ang mas naka gamit sa kanya si Madam. For sure si madam nag babasa dito so ibalik muna pera nang mga student kung di lalaong lalaki yang tiyan mo at ilong mo.


anne 5 years ago

@joy, can i ask for your email add? me sasabihin ako sayo..


anne 5 years ago

@joy, can i ask for your email add? me sasabihin ako sayo..


anne 5 years ago

@joy, email me lang dito se itsybitsy.anna@gmail.com

marami kasi akong ikikiwento sayo. but then marami ang magpapakilalang ikaw yun, pwedeng tauhan ni madam. so please tell me kung ikaw nga yun. kasi i have an idea kung ikaw nga talaga. tnx.


Joy 5 years ago

@anne: I can assure you that hindi ako from KSDI at i really hate people from that agency. Any you can email me at this email juancruz1010@yahoo.com tell me kung anong kwento sasagutin ko or question.


Joy 5 years ago

@anne: I can assure you that hindi ako from KSDI at i really hate people from that agency. Any you can email me at this email juancruz1010@yahoo.com tell me kung anong kwento sasagutin ko or question.


maldita 5 years ago

ang tahimik naman dito... nasan na mga tao dito.. PAGING RESHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


maldita 5 years ago

ang tahimik naman dito... nasan na mga tao dito.. PAGING RESHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


cou pon code 5 years ago

hello yes salamat sa iyo ng isang puna, isang matapat na repasuhin, mabuti na gawin ang isang talk paksa


Dan 5 years ago

Tumatanggap pa ba ng mga bagong applicants ang kirsten?


applicant 5 years ago

buhay pa ba lahat nang tao dito??


crimsonfury 5 years ago

kasali ba dito ang kirsten cebu?


applicant 5 years ago

oo po kasali bakit po ba may problem kayo sa kirsten cebu mag salita po kayo wag lang nyo labas tunay name para maluka silang mag isip kung sino ka..


ehzra 5 years ago

nakup! nakita ko sa manila bulletin classified ads nung may 1 na nag-aadvertise pa yang agency na yan for recruitment. eto pa, nilagay ng agency ang pangalan ng kakilala ko tas sabe nakatanggap daw ng 3 years visa for leadership and management. kapalmuks!

mag-iisang taon na daw xa nag-apply tas lately lang daw hiningan pa xa ng another 1000 euro (daw)...di nila alam kng baket.

galing kasi ako UK, pero before din nag-agency ako (ibang agency) tas nagbayad kami dati ng Php50,000 consultation fee/processing pero wala naman silang ibang ginawa kundi magcheck lang ng paper na me questionnaires para daw sa application. ending eh online lang naman pala application.

hassle!

pa-update na lang po about the KSD. and salamat for this site.


@ehzra 5 years ago

nakaalis na ba yung friend mo? name niya talaga ginamit?


Dan 5 years ago

@ehzra: yung 1,000 na dagdag sasabihin ni ma'am maridee na para sa 3rd yr. na tuition yan at bayad na kayo pero pagdating dito sa UK sasabihin ng school na wlang binayad ang kirsten sa kanila at magbabayad kayo ng tuition all througout the 3 yrs. na stay mo dito sa UK//


Joy 5 years ago

See lahat nang sinabi ko dito noon ay tama. Dapat may action na dapat gawin dapat ipasara na yang agency na yan. Madame masaya ka na ba na marami naghihirap dahil sayo? Karma mo ay darating din mag antay kalang. kahit marami kang pera hindi karn maging masaya.


concern lang po!!! 5 years ago

sa lahat ng mga nagcocomments na nasa pinas please epasa nu ang mga nangyayari sa KSDI sa mga mag aaply,aplikante na, kc kawawa lang ka u d2 and basa basa lang about sa mga news d2 sa uk,concerned lang po kc wala talaga binayad c maridee sa wave,tinanong na namin d2 sa wave training..wala kami magawa kc and2 kami sabihin pa sa amin na tanungin daw ang kirsten tungkol d2,kung malapit lang ang pinas susugurin namin ang kirsten..maawa ka ms.maridee sa mga aplikante mo..hndi mo madadala sa langit ang pera ng mga taong niloloko at naloko mo at lalong hndi ka sasaya..sana mabasa mo to...bigay mo na mga pera ng mga nagpaparefund..kaya cguro karamihan nagresign mga tauhan nya kc ayaw nilang madawit kung may magpafile case against ms.maridee..


red 5 years ago

guys, thanks much sa comments, nakatulong sakin kasi im considering this agency e hehe buti na lang nabasa ko itong mga to..

anyways, im thinking if working in oxfordshire since may kamag-anak ako dun na may nursing home.. licensed nurse ako dito sa phil kaso wala akong experience.. pag pumunta ba ako dyan sa london kelangan ko pang kumuha nung NVQ or any certifications/accreditations coming from any u.k agency?? i also consider ung pagiging care giver since hindi naman malayo sa natapos ko... aun hehe

thanks ulit! and I hope you guys get the justice you deserve....


maridee 5 years ago

tuloy pa ba ang pag advertise at pag.recruit ng kirsten for UK student visa until now? marami pa bang nag.aaply sa kanila?


concern 5 years ago

may cancer mo si madam maridee...cancer sa ilong hahaha


concern din 5 years ago

me bulate din siya. kitam malaki ang tyan


concern din 5 years ago

me bulate din siya. kitam malaki ang tyan


concern 5 years ago

heheh tama! wag nalang taning sabihin kasi pag sinabi daw natin hindi daw magkatotoo... pero in reality lets pray for her na sana ma realized nya na yong ginagawa nya ay mali at karma ay darating din hindi siguro dito or kung ano man. God bless to you madame


concern din 5 years ago

tamah. whether we say it or not, still, karma will go it's way. me masama kang ginawa sa kapwa, pagbabayaran mo pa rin yun pagdating ng araw. kaya, bahala na siya. kung ano itinanim mo, yun ang aanihin mo. kaya madam, kung mahimbing man ang tulog mo sa kamang malambot na binili mo gamit ang pera ng mga biktima mo, sana hanggang sa huling hininga mo. kaso me ginawa ka kasi.


madam mo mukha mo 5 years ago

nasaan na yung dakilang tagapagtanggol? na kuno eh aplikante din. sigurado bang aplikante din un? kasi kung hindi, di niya naexperience yung totoong nangyayari sa london..

ang kapal din ng mukha mong engot ka. nasaan na tapang mo. lumabas ka. sino ba tinakot mo. magsampa ka ng kaso dun sa nbi ng masampal ko sa pagmumukha mo ang ikakaso ko sa inyo. me nagawa ba yang ipinagtatanggol mo ng humarap siya sa mga taong nagreklamo sa ginawa niya. bakit siya nanginginig, bakit di makapagsalita ng diretso? bakit di niya kayang tumingin ng diretso? ang tapang tapang humarap sa mga aplikante, pero daig


madam mo mukha mo 5 years ago

pa niya ang anghel sa bait ah, di makapagsalita.. nasan na yung mga kampon niya na pati sa isang social networking site,ipinagtanggol agency niya, ayun, nagresign, di kinaya ang pitik ng kunsensiya nila..... dami mo pang alam, na kesyo matunton lahat ng mga nagrereklamo dito, anong petsa na? natunton niyo ba sila? me nagawa ba yang taong pinagtatanggol mo sa mga tao dito? tapang lang nila pag sila lang, pag kaharap na, bahag din ang buntot, di maka ek..... sus,


K Manalo 5 years ago

Good day,

Please allow me to introduce myself, I am Karlo Manalo, the marketing head for AIMA Group Ltd., a multinational company based in Makati city that acts the registrar’s/admissions office of a London based school. I write to you now to ask for more information about your organization.

I came across your site while I was searching for websites and groups for Filipino nurses to try and establish ties and partnerships. As a company that invites Filipino nurses to the United Kingdom under our Overseas Nursing Program (ONP), we wish to provide concise and accurate information on the where, what and how of UK nursing opportunities. Our aim, our advocacy is to help fellow Filipino’s reach their dream of working and living in the UK through transparent and direct communication. We do this by eliminating the agency or consultancy entity. As the company that owns the school, we have made the process of inquiry, application and departure of students fast and low cost.

Overseas Nursing Program

The Overseas Nursing Program provides an opportunity for Filipino nurses with an opportunity to become registered nurses in the United Kingdom.

The primary requirement to be eligible for the ONP programs is you must be a registered nurse with at least 1 year experience in a 100 bed capacity hospital, then you will need to take IELTS as part of the requirement to apply for a student visa with an average score of 7 across all bands.

Should you pursue, you need to register with us under the PDA Level 6 course coupled with ONP. The total course fee is GBP 2,950.00, which is an introductory price for Filipino students.

Once you have registered with us, we will do the usual process of securing your visa and once you are in the UK, the college will undertake the process leading to your starting the ONP training (which runs for 3-6 months).

Based on the latest immigration data, there are more or less 3,000 Filipino nurses are currently in the UK and the number continues to grow, and yet the process they utilize is oftentimes costly and complicated.

Information on UK nursing opportunities are obscured and lacking, and while there are resources available (mostly government agencies that post new regulations and updates) these are difficult to understand by the people it is most relevant to – the students and their parents. The reason being, they admitted to not understanding what is stated due to confusing terms or basic ignorance on how the process works.

Such information is critical, as there are hundreds of Filipino’s being sent to the United Kingdom yearly, and thousands more planning to do so. Often those who plan to, rely on second hand information or stories that are passed from a source, typically being relatives, friends or classmates, which as is often the case, the reality and details are eroded or worse omitted. This is the reason why the majority have used agencies and consultancies as their way to applying for the UK. While this has often been the usual route to go in applying for study, work or migration, there are alternatives that are better and pose less risk.

It is this lack of information that drives our company to reach out to as many affected sectors and individuals in order to provide truthful information on nursing related topics-, specifically UK based nursing opportunities. As you may be aware, there has been a lot of misinformation and misnomers on this subject resulting in some individuals and companies taking advantage of such.

Our aim is to demystify and clarify that going to the UK under a student visa need not be complicated or expensive, a point made clear by the at the speed at which we have deployed student applicants, depending on the readiness and availability of their requirements, some of our students have taken as little as 2 months from the time they applied to the time they left for London, some even have had their visa’s issued in as little as 3 days.

This is further supported by our fees, which compared to the processing fees of agencies and consulting groups that charge from one hundred to seven hundred thousand pesos, ours is less than one hundred thousand inclusive of the registration, visa and documentation charges.

We understand that this would raise a few questions on the veracity of the information and how that is possible and what it may cost, the answer to which is what I indicated earlier, as the company that owns the school, we have made the process simpler and faster. The visa application is also easier because our school is rated as Tier 4, Highly Trusted by the UKBA - United Kingdom Border Agency, (www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk), making our school recognized by the UK embassy here in Manila.

We would like to inquire, how we could possibly collaborate with your organization, with regards on UK education opportunities, UK student visa guidelines and UK based Filipino student information.

We understand that your organization’s goal is fostering relations and assisting Filipinos in your area, and like you, we share the same goal. We wish to provide Filipinos here in the Philippines and those already in the UK with detailed information about the conditions, changes and updates for UK immigration (in the context of student visa’s) so that the public - your members, members families and relatives will have a better grasp of the requirements and processes involved in applying for opportunities in the UK.

What we envision is a long term collaborative effort between our company and your organization, combining our resources to fill in the information void present today. Through a sustained, detailed and easy to understand delivery of information, the goal of clearing the misconceptions and myths about studying and working in the UK will be attained.

We propose an activity that would get this message across, such relevant information needs to be made available and accessible to those who seek it, the sad reality is, should a student wish to know about educational and work opportunities in the UK, a search on Google would yield a lot of news stories and features on scams by individuals and companies that have taken advantage of students.

We look towards people and websites like these to help us in our goal of promoting honest, direct and quality service to Filipino’s who wish to better their lives by going to the UK.

To give you more information about the company I represent, please visit our websites: www.aimagroup.co.uk, www.ascollege.org for details on our company and school.

This is a brief overview of the service and program our school and company provides, should you require more information or need clarification on any of the information indicated, please feel free to contact me at the numbers below. Again thank you and I look forward to providing information to your website and members.

Sincerely,

Karlo Rey Manalo

Sales and Marketing Manager

Telefax: 632 856 4779

Mobile: 0917 8694316

Email: marketingtl@aimagroup.co.uk

Website: www.ascollege.org

www.aimagroup.co.uk


prospective applicant 5 years ago

hi there, i'v read your post above, i just want to ask what kind of visa are you offering, is it tier 2 or tier 4 for this program, and how long will our visa be? if it is tier 4 visa, will you help us secure a tier 2 visa after the onp?


K Manalo 5 years ago

Hello prospective applicant. Yes, after your ONP training is complete, our school will convert you visa into a work visa valid for 4 years. I have posted my contact numbers, please feel free to call us.


K Manalo 5 years ago

To all that called our Makati office after reading my first post, thank you and i hope our marketing team were able to answer all your questions and concerns. Should you have other clarifications, please feel free to contact us at our email address.

For those wondering who and what we are, allow me to clarify - AIMA Group Ltd. Phils, is not an agency or consultancy, we are the Manila office of AIMA Group, the company that owns A & S College in London.


K Manalo 5 years ago

To all that called our Makati office after reading my first post, thank you and i hope our marketing team were able to answer all your questions and concerns. Should you have other clarifications, please feel free to contact us at our email address.

For those wondering who and what we are, allow me to clarify - AIMA Group Ltd. Phils, is not an agency or consultancy, we are the Manila office of AIMA Group, the company that owns A & S College in London.


wala akong name 5 years ago

alam nyo kirsten ay isang manloloko pagpeperahan lang kayo isa ako sa mga biktima nila pero atleast nka rating nmn ako dito sa uk pero ang hirap ng byuhay dito kaya ung mg students na gusto mag apply wag na punta na lang kayo ng canada... 15 hrs. lng allowed mag work ngayon dito sa new rules ng student visa mahirapan kayo hndi pa nga ako nka bawi sa utang na hiniram ko sa pinas eh cocern lang ako sa mga filipino na bka maloko den katulad ko

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kevin 5 years ago

hirap ng life dito sa london...magastos todo tipid lalu na student...but bilib ako sa hard work nila..kso may ibang pinoy d2 na student na akala mo kung sino...but gnun tlaga makatikim lng ng konting sarap akala mo kung sino..pero kung gagastos kyo 300 thou or 400 thou papunta d2 wag na negosyo nyo nalang kasi di gnun kadali magwork d2 saka 10 hrs per week if aral u less than 1 year lang work allowed sa student d2 if college u aral but if Universities d2 and schools ng uk government 20hrs a week


kevin 5 years ago

hirap ng life dito sa london...magastos todo tipid lalu na student...but bilib ako sa hard work nila..kso may ibang pinoy d2 na student na akala mo kung sino...but gnun tlaga makatikim lng ng konting sarap akala mo kung sino..pero kung gagastos kyo 300 thou or 400 thou papunta d2 wag na negosyo nyo nalang kasi di gnun kadali magwork d2 saka 10 hrs per week if aral u less than 1 year lang work allowed sa student d2 if college u aral but if Universities d2 and schools ng uk government 20hrs a week


kevin 5 years ago

two yrs na ako d2 sa london and parang ang tagal ko na d2..madaming sad na kwento d2..kaya isip muna mabuti kung student visa lang visa nyo papunta d2 ok...swerte ung batch 2009 ksi di gnun khigpit pa..but today sobra saka taas tuition fees..totoo ito ksi mdami me frens na student visa d2 sa london...


toby101 5 years ago

just want to ask if kirsten agency is a complete scam and if anyone is kind enough to talk about the unfulfilled promises there in UK. thanks in advance


no name 5 years ago

kirsten is in trouble. ayan, me libre na kayong exposure sa tv, worldwide pa, naibalita lang naman mga panloloko niyo sa bandila ng abscbn. madam, malamang magpapafeng shui ka na naman.


007 5 years ago

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sherry 5 years ago

kapal ng mga mukha ng taga kirsten d na nhiya may gana ng mgalit pag ng msg. ka na ang concern mo ay ung refunds mo for a very long tym na d pa nabbalik sau...imbes mkipagtulungan nman sau eton mga branches nila kung saan ka nagapply at nagw/draw na ggalit pa pretend na tumutulong mareleasan ng refunds un pla kakontsaba din cebu branch wag kang sisip at epal gwan nyo paraan marelease ung pera na hindi sa inyo at d inuutang sa nyo pera namin yan manlloko kau...


sherry 5 years ago

kapal ng mga mukha ng taga kirsten d na nhiya may gana ng mgalit pag ng msg. ka na ang concern mo ay ung refunds mo for a very long tym na d pa nabbalik sau...imbes mkipagtulungan nman sau eton mga branches nila kung saan ka nagapply at nagw/draw na ggalit pa pretend na tumutulong mareleasan ng refunds un pla kakontsaba din cebu branch wag kang sisip at epal gwan nyo paraan marelease ung pera na hindi sa inyo at d inuutang sa nyo pera namin yan manlloko kau...


kram 5 years ago

hi po! applicant po ako sa kirsten and util now wala p clang updates.then last sept. nakita ko sa news na marami ang ngrereklamo sa kirsten,from then on ki nontact ko yong office ng follow up ng status ng application,but wala silang maisagot na maayos.na coconfuse po ako kung tutuloy pa ba or mg wiwithdaraw na after reading all the negative comments..can anyone give some advice pls..Thank you.


toby101 5 years ago

ako nag withdraw na dahil mahirap na maloko ngayon sa hirap naman ng buhay. Masyado na maraming negative comments para kindi mag duda.


toby101 5 years ago

ako nag withdraw na dahil mahirap na maloko ngayon sa hirap naman ng buhay. Masyado na maraming negative comments para kindi mag duda.


rein 5 years ago

toby panu ba ung process pg ng withdraw? kelangan pa ba letter with intention to withdarw?


pipol 5 years ago

sa mga nagbabalak magwithdraw, at nagwithdraw na, isang malaking goodluck sa inyo kung maibabalik kagad ang pera niyo. lahat ng mga nabasa niyo dito na reklamo nila totoo yun. sasabihin sa inyo na wala pang pera. wala dito ang accountant, wala pa si madam, lahat ng klaseng alibis maririnig niyo sa kanila. pati abogado irarason nila. kung hiniram niyo ang pera niyo na me interes, baka malaki pang interes na binayaran niyo kesa sa pera pag naibalik na. the tuition fees that u paid, di yan makakarating sa uk, pagdating niyo dun, sasabihin ng wave na di ibinigay ng kirsten yung pera na ibinayad niyo. back to zero kayo. paalala lang to mga kapatid. nagbabasa taga kirsten dito. nagbanta pa ngang kasuhan lahat ng mga nagreklamo dito, pwes, handa saan mang laban o anumang korte dalhin nila madam itong kaso. panangga nila ang kontratang pinirmahan niyo, panangga niyo sa kanya eto, di man mangyayari ngayon, balang araw ang karmang hinahanap niya babalik sa kanya. kahit anong anting anting gamitin niya para di siya tablan ng malas, darating at darating sa kanya yun. di natutulog ang Diyos madam.


Joy before now sad 5 years ago

Thank you for your email.

I understand you applied for your visa having agreed to be supported through this process by Kirsten Student Development Inc. Wave had agreed with Kirsten at the time of your application to offer you a place on our programme which you would pay for in monthly instalments when you arrived in the UK.

Wave Training therefore does not have any tuition fees from students until they arrive in the UK. Any payments you have made to Kirsten in advance of coming to the UK is a matter between you and Kirsten.

I hope this clarifies the situation with regard to the payment of tuition fees.

Kind Regards

Wave Training Ltd

i did send an email to wave and this is what they said to me pls read above...


maricel 5 years ago

Mag withdraw na kayo kasi after tapos na kayong mag bayad maraming promise ang ibibigay sa inyo. Na may problema and new rules ganinto ganyan. Yang madam maridee na yan karma ay darating din sayo. Sana mag kaisa lahat at mag file na case against this agency para ma stop yong pangloloko nila


liars go to hell like madam & co. 5 years ago

Thank you for your mail, however this is an issue you will need to raise with Kirsten directly.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

Kind Regards,

Wave Training Limited

Birmingham – London – Glasgow

Tel: 0845 363 6139

Sales: 0845 363 6128

Fax: 0845 363 6185

DDI:4713

lyon.robinson@wavetraining.co.uk

www.wavetraining.co.uk

pero sabi ni madam, matatagalan pa dahil kukunin pa sa wave. grabe na di ba


Joy 5 years ago

Oo nga yon yong sabi ni madam pero yong wave iba din yong sabi nila. So siguro if mag kakaisa kayong may chance na manalo kayo.


toby101 5 years ago

rein

in my case hindi nalang ako bumalik sa office nila. malapit na kami umabot sa signing of contract pero hindi pa ako naka bayad so wala silang magawa kung hindi na ako babalik.

Naka sign kami ng contract?


rein 5 years ago

toby,

ng sign ako ng contract sa wave bt na convince nila ako ni madam na lipat na lg daw sa cahro kc medyo tagilid daw ang wave..and naka deposit na ako ng commitment fee plus ung pf daw nila,nakabalik na ako ng ofis and hingi ko ung new contract sabi on process pa din daw..i was thinking kung possible bah na mabawi ung refund kc nilipat nila and till now wait pa din ako sa new contract pra ma withdraw ko na application ko. thanks.


joy 5 years ago

if nag plan ka na kunin ang refund it will take 4 to 6 months bago mo makuha yong pera mo. kirsten pa mga mukhang pera lahat yong mga tao dyan. good luck nalang sayo


>>> 5 years ago

sa lahat ng mga nagpopost dito at nagtatanong, sa inyo na yun kung ano ang gagawin niyo. either ul take advices here or ignore them. madam is such a big fat liar. kayo din kung paniniwalaan niyo lahat ng mga sinasabi niya.


----- 5 years ago

not only a fat liar but shes a devil. all applicant good luck sa inyo kasi it will take months bago kayo makakuha nang result its either postive or negative. Pero for sure after all of this other payments to be folled


>>> 5 years ago

Pinoy students in UK warn vs PH consultancy firms

Sep 22, 2011 at 12:55 PM

BIRMINGHAM, England - A surge in the number of students arriving in Birmingham has alarmed Filipino community groups in the city.

Students started to arrive in June, some in groups of 10 to 15 students. All of them came to the UK to seek the proverbial green pasture.

They came with student visas but most, if not all, came here with the intention to work as allowed by the UK law, and also to study. After all, they have been working as registered nurses in the Philippines for many years.

They were lured to work and study in the UK. Now, they feel trapped by the agreements they have signed, and are starting to realize that the consultancy agency that processed their visas took advantage of their naiveté and desperation to find work abroad.

“Ang ganda ng pangako. Sabi po 3 days may trabaho na. Yun po ang pinangako sa amin na taliwas sa experience namin ngayon. We are expecting a lot na hanggang ngayon wala pa rin po (kaming trabaho),” said John, not his real name.

John approached ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau, along with the other students, to warn Filipinos to be wary of these so-called consultancy agencies in Manila. He declined to be identified for fear of being harassed by the consultancy agency.

Consultancy agency in question

Kirsten Student Development Incorporated facilitated the student visas of the Filipino students for a 3-year Level 3 National Certificate Care and Management course in the UK under Quality Care Solutions Ltd or Wave Training Ltd.

The students paid a total of $7,000, excluding the airfare to the UK and other miscellaneous fees. To be granted a student visa in the UK, they also had to secure at least P700,000 or £9,150 in the bank as show money. Before they could leave the Philippines, some of them were already buried in debt, spending up to a million pesos.

The longer they stayed with Kirsten to process their documents, the more they spent. In retrospect, it was a strategy by the consultancy company to milk money from the desperate students. From 3 to 4 months of processing documents, some of them waited up to 2 years before they boarded the plane bound for the UK.

“Kasi once na nakapag-apply ka na, mahirap ng mag withdraw ng pera na binigay mo. Katulad nung nag- apply ako, sinabi nila na 3-4 months makakaalis kami. In that period bayad na kami dapat. Kung mag-withdraw ka, 70 percent lang ang makukuha mo. So parang sa aming mga aplikante, dahil nag- invest ka na ng time, ayaw mo ng mag back-out kasi manghihinayang sa 30 percent,’ said ‘John.’

It was also their understanding that the $7,000 they paid Kirsten included a portion of payment for their tuition fee in the UK college. But when they reported to Wave Training Ltd., they were shocked to find out that nothing has been paid by Kirsten.

In the contract secured by ABS-CBN Europe between one of the students and Kirsten, it stipulates "the UK enrollment and administration fees of $4,000 have to be paid." This amount is part of the total amount of $7,000.

Tuition fee is not stipulated in any part of the contract. But according to John, it was only verbally explained to them that tuition fee is under "the enrolment and admin fees" portion.

He also provided another copy of the contract agreement where the amount was reduced to $ 3,000, but that was only on paper since they had still paid the agreed amount of $7,000. He said the revised contract was given to him prior to his departure from Manila.

Promises divorced from reality

Although it was explained to them that they need at least £600 per month to survive the student life in the UK, nothing prepared the students for the conditions that awaited them in Birmingham. Unable to work for months and with classes to attend, the pocket money they thought would be enough for them to get, disappeared quickly.

With intense pressure from living in a new environment and decrepit accommodations, one of the students had a mental breakdown and was sent back to the Philippines.

“Dun sa previous batch, may nagkaroon ng nervous breakdown. Kasi di talaga kakayananin dun sa pinadala nila sa amin na pocket money na amounting to £1,000. It’s not enough to sustain us for almost 2 months na wala kaming trabaho,” said Cathy, not her real name. ABS-CBN Europe is also withholding the real name of Cathy to protect her from any form of harassment.

“Marami silang di tinupad. Una di nila na mention na pagdating sa amin dito may agency na may magha-handle dito. Kumbaga wala na kaming ini-expect na third party,” added Cathy.

The third party is another company that secures work for the students. Cathy said this company placed their classmates in other cities where travelling to and from their classes would be physically inconceivable.

ABS-CBN Europe, through its news arm in the Philippines, tried to get Kirsten to comment on the issues raised but the students but to no avail.

Filcom Groups in Birmingham lend a hand

The students are worried they will not be able to pay their tuition fees if they do not start to work immediately. For 36 months, they need to pay £300 a month to Wave Training Ltd. On top of the tuition fee, they also have to worry about living expenses, which average £600 a month.

With the help of the Filipino priest in Corpus Christy Catholic Church, Fr. Edgar Dizon, the students are getting guidance emotionally. Dizon asked the Filipino community in his Parish to help the students. The Filcom groups in Birmingham are mostly composed of nurses working for the NHS and other private hospitals.

“Tayong mga Pilipino, mataas tayong mangarap. Gusto nating maayos ang bukas ng pamilya natin sa Pilipinas kaya gumagawa tayo ng paraan para pumunta sa ibang bansa at magtrabaho. Ang mga taong nagpo-proseso ng mga papers, sinasasamantala nila ang mga kabataang ito, sinisingil nila ng napakalaki, kung ano anong pangako na wala namang katotohanan pagdating nila sa UK,” explained Dizon.

He also called on the government to look into this problem.

“Sana yung mga mambabatas sa Pilipinas tingnan ang bagay na ito, ang gorbyerno para ma resolve kung ano ang problema. Kung kailangang itigil na ang ganitong kalakaran sa Pilipinas, itigil na. Aksyon ang kailangan natin kaysa patuloy na nalololoko ang mga kababayan natin,” said Dizon.

The crux of the problem

Consultancy agencies in the Philippines prey on people who are anxious to leave Philippines for better job prospects abroad. Back home, the applicants are unaware of the real situation in the UK. So when consultancy firms present these job opportunities in the UK, they are taken as gospel truth.

Consultancy firms make money from the business of processing student documents but it has recently reached a point of greed where they charge enormous fees, as in the case of Kirsten.

There is no regulatory body in the Philippines to oversee these consultancy agencies. There is also no law that protects the students when confronted with this kind of problem.

“Hinihiling ko po na sana magkaroon ng batas at mapag-aralan kung ano ang patakaran at grounds para pwedeng mabigyan ng lunas ang ‘sinidkato’ na ito na gumagawa ng bagay ng magpapaalis pero napakaraming panloloko,” said John.

For the students, the UK college as well as the consultancy firms in the Philippines, are both guilty of duping them. --Rose Eclarinal, ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau

>>>> AYAN NA YUNG REPORT NI ROSE ECLARINAL NA INVOLVE ANG KIRSTEN AT WAVE.


joy 5 years ago

im so happy kasi marami nang naglabasan ngayon at nag bigay nang karansan nila sa kirsten student development. So ngayon madam dapat kana siguro mag isip kung ipagpaptuloy mo ang pang loloko mo sa mga tao.


Robb 5 years ago

i check nyo muna ang link na eto about Kirsten

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/09/22/1...


Joy 5 years ago

Eto talagang si Maadam Malaki ilong deny to death talaga. Talagang ubod ng sama yang babae na yan. Its true na nag bibigay siya nang update tungol sa latest rules na UK. Pero talaga namang nag bibigya sila nang work infact my contract that you need to sign. You know madam kaya sumugal kami kasi malaki na yong gasto namin e kung stop na namin diba hindi mo naman sina sa uli pera namin? kasi may admin fee and alot more pero wla naman talagang ni isang peso na punta sa wave. If you are going to request for a refund before they give the money you need to sign a paper na hindi pweding mag reklamo sa pOEa and other govt agency. So ano ngayon ilong queen sige pa ba o hugot na???? Sana makulong kana.


>>>> 5 years ago

UK-based students vent anger at PH agency

by Rose Eclarinal, ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau

Posted at 10/27/2011 10:26 AM | Updated as of 10/27/2011 4:52 PM

WOW, LIAR MADAM AT HER FINEST..... SIGE PA, MAGSINUNGALING KA PA

Students at Birmingham speak to ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau's Rose Eclarinal

BIRMINGHAM, ENGLAND - More Filipino students are coming out to complain against Kirsten Student Development Inc., a Philippine-based consultancy agency that gave advice to applicants on how to secure a student visa in the UK.

These students contacted ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau to vent their anger against Kirsten, which promised to talk to the UK colleges and assist the students with their ad hoc requirements in getting the student visa. The students shelled out up to $7,000 to Kirsten for this service.

But what attracted the students to Kirsten was the opportunity for them to work in the UK while studying.

They were promised to be given on-the-job-training with pay, but these jobs came later than anticipated. Many were left with no job or money to finance their education in the UK.

This is the root cause of rage among the students in Birmingham.

“Napakalaking gamble noon sa amin na ang laki-laki ng binayad namin tapos wala naman (trabaho). Akala namin pagdating dito okay. Yun pala, yung mga sinabi niyang trabaho, di naman totoo,” said John, the designated spokesperson of the students.

He was earlier interviewed by ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau on the same issue.

Aurora Amelig came to the UK in 2008 as a student, also getting the visa through Kirsten. After only 3 months, Amelig and her fellow students found out the college where they were enrolled in suddenly went into liquidation and was forced to close down.

Around a hundred Filipino students were affected by the sudden closure of Affinity College. Amelig said, as a consultancy agency trusted to choose a reputable college for them, Kristen failed to do its job.

They were not able to refund their tuition fees and were left to look for another another college. When some students were unsuccessful, they were deported.

What also irked them was the indifference of the consultancy agency that sold to them the idea of earning enough to fund their own education. The students also did not get any assistance from Kirsten, when they faced challenges of living in the UK.

“Wala man lang letter from Kirsten saying na ito ang gagawin at mag-enrol kayo sa isang school which is an affiliate. We did not receive any assistance from them, to think na 3 buwan pa lang naman kami sa England,” said Amelig.

She further explained: “Kung kamag-anak mo at anak mo ang pinapunta mo dito para mag-struggle, I doubt kung papupuntahin mo pa siya. Kunsiyensya na lang. May mga estudyante na nagbayad ng napakalaki. Baka binenta pa ang lahat ng ari-arian sa Pilipinas. Tapos maghihirap sila dito.”

Kirsten denies allegations

In a phone interview with ABS-CBN News Manila, Kirsten denied all the allegations.

Maridee Basco, president of Kirsten, said they neither duped the students nor promised them work.

“Hiindi po kami nanloloko. We are very transparent here. Lagi nila akong kaharap, lagi nila akong nakakausap. May meeting every time na may issue sa UK. Nung naipit file nila sa embassy for 10 months, bakit di sila nagreklamo na linuloko sila? Bakit nung may 3-year visa, saka sila magco-complain? If you are not satisfied, don't go to UK. Dito pa lang, stop na,” Basco said.

She reiterated that Kirsten did not promise work.

“Di po ako nangangako ng trabaho. Hindi ito work-permit. Itong sinasabing trabaho ay pinaka-OJT with pay sa mga carehomes. Nagkataon na may bayad ito based on their rate,” she said.

Basco also explained that Kirsten charged different fees for students, but did not say if the tuition was included in the payment.

“Nag-increase po, nagbayad na sila $3,000, merong $4,000. After last year, na-inform magdadala ng additional because the course is different,” said Basco.

The students insisted that Kirsten made them believe that the $7,000 fees cover part of their tuition in the UK college.

Regarding assistance to students in the UK, Kristen was adamant that it is the responsibility of the trainer and the UK college.

Some students believe Kirsten and the UK college colluded to cover up the lapses of each other.

“Malaki ang posibilidad na may sabwatan sila kasi ang eskuwelan nagkukunwari na wala silang alam sa binayaran. Kasi yung mga binayaran namin na supposed to be for tuition fee, wala naman daw nakarating sa eskuwelahan,” said John.

UK College defends itself

Kirsten facilitated the UK visas of the Filipino students for a 3-year Level 3 National Certificate Care and Management course under Quality Care Solutions Ltd or Wave Training Ltd.

When contacted by ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau, Wave Training categorically denied that there is any collusion with Kirsten in providing "false hopes" or advertisement as the students alleged.

Gail Porter, Interim General Manager of Wave Training Limited explained in a letter that "there is not, and never has been any collusion between Wave and Kirsten in an attempt to cover up the 'wrong information'.”

Porter also explained that the students signed an agreement that outlines the responsibilities and obligations of each party.

“All learners were issued with details of the course and requirements in their visa letters and have signed a Learners' Agreement. This agreement in brief sets out the level of tuition fees payable to Wave and the expected behaviors of each student. Copies of the agreements were supplied to Kirsten and some students signed the Learners Agreement before leaving the Philippines,” said Porter.

Porter also added: ‘We are not privy to the exact detail of Kirsten’s communication with each individual student. When examples of false information have been brought to our attention we have immediately responded to agents to address this."

The company likewise clarified that it did not shirk from its responsibilities to the students in making them aware of the fees they needed to pay, particularly tuition fees.

‘We at Wave did our utmost to ensure that all students were aware, even before they left the Philippines, that there would be tuition fees to pay to the college and indeed what the payments would be. These overseas tuition fees charged by Wave are between £2000 - £6000 per year, less than fees charged by other colleges/universities,” said Porter.

Because of the complaints against Kirsten received by Wave, the college is not dealing with Kirsten in the future.

“Notice was previously served to Kirsten of our intention to discontinue working with them following the enrolment of the final batch of students by email and by letter earlier in 2011,” stated Porter.

Angry students

The students are still angry because they believe they have been duped.

John, on behalf of fellow students at Birmingham, has a message for Kirsten: “Tigilan na niya ang panloloko niya. Kasi sa puntong ito bisto na siya. Siya na ang sinungaling, siya pa yung mayabang”.

Amelig is appealing to Filipino students to delay their plans to study and work in the UK, and wait for the UK economy to improve.

“It’s too expensive here at naka-student visa ka lang. First thing, you don’t have work. Kahit mga British citizen hirap kumuha ng 35 hours of work sa sarili nilang bansa, so how much more ang foreigners,” she said.


joy 5 years ago

SI MARIEE T. BASCO DENY TO DEATH TALAGA. THE MORE YOU LIE MADAM THE MORE LALAKI YANG ILONG AT TIYAN MO.


>>>> 5 years ago

sinungaling ka talagang babae ka, basco. maiprisinta na rin namin sa NBI yung mga ebidensya laban sayo. at di mo ba alam, lahat mga sinabi mo sa meetings, orientation, nirecord po yun, pati boses mo nga klarong klaro. pati english mo na akala mo fluent, daming flaws din. pati pambobola na mga sinabi mo. di mo rin alam, pinicturan kita, kasama ang paborito mong shawl


joy 5 years ago

if nasa kulungan na siya talagang pupuntahan ko siya. take ako nang picture tapos post ko sa fb na lahat nang ginawa ko did2 ay may kabuluhan did2. Pwede isali si resho yung gago na yon. Pati yang alalay na baboy at sa yang baklang kung para kung sino. Isali na rin yang nasa cebu office


>>>> 5 years ago

what's the face of that bakla? what's his name? yung baboy? yun bang super sipsip sa kanya?


joy 5 years ago

Opo yong mataba na palaging kain nang kain na palagi nasa tabi nya. Bakla na galing UK daw may mga certificate pa ngang pinakita. Matangkad na yong labi niya ang laki.. Applicant ron po kayo o tapos na kayo sa KSDI?


toby101 5 years ago

he grabe talaga ang galit ng mga tao niloko ng kirsten.

salamat sa site na ito at hindi ako natuloy sa kanila.

sa mga tao na nag bigay ng advice at nag share ng experience nila, maraming thank you!!

hope makuha na ninyo ang refund at justice na talagang inyo.


joy 5 years ago

ako nakuha kuna refund ko. our of $3000 ang nakuha ko ay $1500 lang kasi may admin fee daw, at ect. pero bago ko nakuha may papers na i need to sign before they will release the money. Na bawal akong mag file nang case to POEA and other govt. agency. But it wont stop me posting some comments here kasi hindi bero ginawa nila sa akin. I lost almost 200,000 for the processing and other fees dahil sa kanilang ginagawa.Sabi nila 3-4 months processing? It took almost 1 year for them to get a result plus new rules daw, new payments ulit. Good luck sa lahat sana ma close na itong KSDI


nepparaiso 5 years ago

nirereklamo na sila ng mga pinoy student based in UK. eto po ung article, quote ko lang mula sa Hello-Phillipines, UK based Philippine Newspaper... BIRMINGHAM, ENGLAND - More Filipino students are coming out to complain against Kirsten Student Development Inc., a Philippine-based consultancy agency that gave advice to applicants on how to secure a student visa in the UK.

These students contacted ABS-CBN Europe News Bureau to vent their anger against Kirsten, which promised to talk to the UK colleges and assist the students with their ad hoc requirements in getting the student visa. The students shelled out up to $7,000 to Kirsten for this service.

But what attracted the students to Kirsten was the opportunity for them to work in the UK while studying.

pakibasa ang whole story sa: http://hello-philippines.com/term/europe/uk-based-...


joy 5 years ago

naka post na ang article na ito dito.


alex 5 years ago

if ever na gs2 nyong magsampa ng case sa kirsten o kya kay madam willing po akong sumama please email me joannagalang@hotmail.com salamat!


alex 5 years ago

if ever na gs2 nyong magsampa ng case sa kirsten o kya kay madam willing po akong sumama please email me joannagalang@hotmail.com salamat!


joy 5 years ago

wla ba update kay madam? Kulong naba siya?


joy 5 years ago

buhay pa ba si maridee t. basco "aka" malaki ilong/malaki tiyan?hhahahah


Liz 5 years ago

Hi ask lang po. San po dapat magreklamo o humingi ng tulong para makapag refund ng processing fee sa consulting agency? thanks in advance.


joy 5 years ago

Read mo muna agreement mo sa kanila kung ano yong naka lagay. Sa kirsten student developement karin ba? Kung ganun gud luck sayo if ever kasi aabutin yan nang 6 mos or more bago nila ma ibigay at may kaltas pa.


allwhite 5 years ago

@ joy: I'm also one of the applicants of kirsten, may I know if you have already a visa when you request your refund? kasi I have already a visa and I want to withdraw. Do you have any idea if pwede pa nila balik money ko? I understand naman that they will get 30% of how much i paid.


@allwhite 5 years ago

u have ur visa already, i doubt if they will give it back to u, 30% refund? nah, yung binayad mong tuition fee, pagdating mo ng UK, sasabihin ng wave na walang binigay ang kirsten na tuition fee kaya back to zero ka. please read all those comments above so that you will know the real story. gusto mo ng patunay, basahin mo report ni ROSE ECLARINAL NG ABSCBN EUROPE. magdecide ka na bago ka pa magsisi. kung gusto mong harapin si basco, magdala ka ng nbi.


@allwhite 5 years ago

u have ur visa already, i doubt if they will give it back to u, 30% refund? nah, yung binayad mong tuition fee, pagdating mo ng UK, sasabihin ng wave na walang binigay ang kirsten na tuition fee kaya back to zero ka. please read all those comments above so that you will know the real story. gusto mo ng patunay, basahin mo report ni ROSE ECLARINAL NG ABSCBN EUROPE. magdecide ka na bago ka pa magsisi. kung gusto mong harapin si basco, magdala ka ng nbi.


allwhite 5 years ago

@joy: so, hindi na nila refund sa akin ang tuition ko?


allwhite 5 years ago

@joy: Thanks for your reply. I hope meron ka rin idea about my case, if there is still a possibility that they will refund my money kahit may bawas pa? Pwede pahingi ng email ad mo? Wala kasi akong pagtanungan dito, so, i really need your help.


@ allwhite 5 years ago

i am not joy, but i was one of the agency's victims. they will refund ur money but don't expect in 100%. and u have to wait months, pababalikin ka lang nila ng pababalikin sa office nila. visit rose eclarinal's report she has full account of what happened to students in uk thru kirsten.


allwhite 5 years ago

@joy: Thanks for your reply. Very helpful para sa akin. regards


joy 5 years ago

@allwhite: as for your case hindi ko alam kung mag kaano yong makukuha mo. As for me wla pa akong visa nag withdraw ako. Pero sa $3000 ko, $1500 lang yong nakuha ko kasi daw may admin fee pero hindi naman totoo. Kasi i wrote to wave and they said na wla pa silang natanggap from kirsten ni isang dolyar. So that means wla pang nababayad yong kirsten at pag punta ka sa UK bayad ka ulit.


sheheighei 5 years ago

to those who seek advices upon withdrawing money, on applying to this agency, and so on and so forth, READ what had been posted here. yung mga pumupuri sa agency na yan, mga tauhan sila nung madam, we have been written here our sentiments how kirsten made a fool out of us.

so things won't be redundant. IF U STILL NEED FURTHER INFO, LOOK FOR ROSE ECLARINAL'S REPORT ABOUT PINOY STUDENTS IN UK, OKEY?

to those who at least survived in UK, good thing for u, but i know, u don't deserve how kirsten treated you.


sheheighei 5 years ago

to those who seek advices upon withdrawing money, on applying to this agency, and so on and so forth, READ what had been posted here. yung mga pumupuri sa agency na yan, mga tauhan sila nung madam, we have been written here our sentiments how kirsten made a fool out of us.

so things won't be redundant. IF U STILL NEED FURTHER INFO, LOOK FOR ROSE ECLARINAL'S REPORT ABOUT PINOY STUDENTS IN UK, OKEY?

to those who at least survived in UK, good thing for u, but i know, u don't deserve how kirsten treated you.


leila ann gacuya 4 years ago

i was an applicant there b4,but then d k n tinuloy pero ngbyad n k ng 5oo$..i only want 2 know kng merton p b akong marerefund s naibyad k..


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Paul Liwanag 4 years ago from PAMPANGA PHILIPPINES

Hi guys can you help me? some info's?? on how to apply sa KDI? thanks


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Paul Liwanag 4 years ago from PAMPANGA PHILIPPINES

Hi guys can you help me? some info's?? on how to apply sa KDI? thanks


happy 4 years ago

ang linaw naman ng visa na makukuha nyo sa KIRSTEN diba.. "STUDENT VISA". hindi "WORKING VISA".. hay naku gamitin ang utak kung meron man pero parang wala yata lalo na si joy..... buti nlng di ka tumuloy sa Uk kasi bawal TANGA dun... :)


joy 4 years ago

@happy: kaya nga nag apply ako para student visa and hopefully working visa after 3 years. May sinabi ba akong working visa? Wla naman siguro eh sino kaya sa atin yong tanga? Mag basa ka okay? Isa lang na sure ako na makukuha nang kIRSTEN PERA. Sabihin mo sa president mong malaki ang ilong tigilan na nya yong ginagawa niya. Hindi lang ako ang may reklamo laban sa KSDI marami nabalita na nga dba. Bago ka mag salita mag basa ka.... ISA KANG MALAKING TANGA OR SIGURO pareho kayo ni resho mga aso ni madam maridee t. basco


AJ frm UK 4 years ago

Payo ko lang po sa lahat ng dipa ngka visa na nasa phils para mabawi nyo pera nyo mas better mag file kayo ng case na magkakasama kesa hiwalay-hiwalay. Ung offer sa inyo sa cahro mahirap po yan kasi dto sa UK dapat Level 5 or mas mataas pa level pg aralan nyo kasi pg lower level your not allowed to work o ung tintwag nating ojt (workplace) ung binibigay ng cahro lower level po yan pg isipan nyo mabuti. Sa mga nkaalis na huwag na kayo manisi ayusin nyo nlang buhay nyo diyan at alam ko medyo mhirap dahil malaki ung binayaran nyo monthly sa wave work hard nalang po pg non-term para mabawi yung $7,000 na binayd nyo or more than pa diyan . Yung sa mga mg aapply huwag nlang po try nyo nalang ung ibang bansa sa ngayon walang gandang pumunta dito sa UK mhirap po talaga buhay. Sa mga applicant if kaya nyo mg refund nalang kayo dahil sobrang laki na yung hinihinging bayad sa inyo diyan. Basta pg isipan nyo muna mabuti ng mdaming beses bago mg punta dito sa UK.


joy 4 years ago

@happy: marunong kabang mag basa? please read AJ comment


Joy 4 years ago

@happy: saan kana ba? bat ba ang tahimik mo ngayon i need your answer. Siguro now marunong kanang mag basa?


jb 4 years ago

para sa mga gustong pumunta dito sa uk eh napakaliit na ng chances dahil sa dami ng pagbabago sa batas ng Home office lalo na pag non-EU ang applicant. try Australia, New Zealand or Canada and alam ko mas maganda ang chance sa canada after 2 years of studying dahil may chance na makapagapply ng immigrant visa and mas clear ang mga batas nila sa canada.


ukstud! 4 years ago

ano na nangyari kay bansot marideeng malaking tyan...buhay pa ba ung agency nya..may nag aaplay pa ba...


anonymous 4 years ago

hay plan ko pa man din umalis ng bansa as working whle studying ..ano po ba tlga totoo?meron po ba kayo maiiaadvice saken kung sakali?thank you po.


Joy 4 years ago

try to read from the top para malaman mo kung anong klase na tao si maridee t. basco. mag canada ka nlng.


st 4 years ago

any update sa case??is it still possible to get the refund??if may case, makukuha pa kaya ung mga binayad?? I was able to get a refund, but not in full. Kirsten was obliged to refund my payment because, i demanded a letter from them that they will give the money back to me. Siguro, dahil sa letter, they chose to refund kasi kaso un. Pero, un nga, indi xa in full. I signed a letter na ndi nako pwede magcomplaint. Sayang kasi ung natira, ang laki pa rin nun eh..


Carol 4 years ago

Sa lahat nang ngseseek ng legal advise..pa pm ako sa louise_marin@yahoo.com

humahabol pdn sa refund..para lahat cla damay,kailangn na kumilos..pati mga staff nila.magtulong2 tayo..justice ang kailang natin


agent xxx 4 years ago

kamusta na pala lahat ng mga nagrereklamo dito? yung isang tauhan ni madam na baklang resho, me pathreaten pang nalalaman ah, me ipapatrack pa kuno IP address sa lahat ng mga nagrereklamo dito, eh nagawa niyo bang ipatrack sa NBI? bakit di niyo magawang lumapit sa kanila at humingi ng tulong? alam mo madam, resho at lahat ng mga alipores niyo, naniniwala mga tao rito sa KARMA, kakarmahin kayo sa mga ginawa niyo, di natutulog ang Diyos. kahit ano pang mga lucky charms ang gamitin nyo, di niyo maiiwasan ang mga kasamaang itinanim niyo dahil yun din ang aanihin niyo. kung makapag asta kayo ang tapang niyo ah, eh bakit nung kunin namin ang pera namin, napakabait niyo? takot kayong mademanda kasi, sa tingin niyo ba lahat ng mga waiver na pinapirma niyo sa mga nag apply sa inyo at kumuha ng refund eh pinirmahan yun para di kayo maireklamo, eh laking tanga rin pala kayo eh.. HOY BAKLA NG RESHO, nagresign ka rin naman dyan sa pinagtatrabuhan mo, magharap tayo, tapang sa tapang. ipatrack mo IP address ko, di ako natatakot, sa tingin mo ba hindi ako handa, andito lahat ng ebidensiya ko laban sa mga ipinaglalaban mo, di ako pumunta ng giyera ng walang dalang armas.

ang tapang ng mga apog niyo. maglabasan kayo, haharapin ko kayo. PI kayo. tapang tapangan lang yang madam mo, duwag naman, di makapagsalita ang malaking tyan na yan. yung assistant niya na akala mo sinong matapang, i know your dark secret. taray performance level ang akting, dinaig si maricar, mga readers kayo na bahala magdecipher kung ano ibig kong sabihin nito.

KARMA IS REALLY A BITCH..


elena 4 years ago

i am also one of their victims. kakapal ng mga mukha. yung babaeng maputi na pagkataray taray, di ko talaga makakalimutan pagmumukha noon, tinarayan ba naman ako. pero nakaganti ako, hahaha. malalaman din niya yan balang araw. baka nga unti unti ng naagnas ng di niya alam. silang dalawa nung maridee, si maridee, isa rin siya sa mga isinama ko.


tine 4 years ago

Naiintindhan ko feelings nu po, galing naku UK peo natapos ko ung visa ko na 3 yrs..peo pinagdaanan ko rin yan before, nangungulit lagi peo hangat nakaalis din kmi ng mga batchmate ko..so far naman ok naman ung napuntahan namin dun pagdting dun may work na kmi agad nung ksama kung student din, peo bago me umuwi pinas nabankcrupt na ang southern cross at ung Wave Training dna sila nag assist to renew our visa.. peo ung carehome namin willing syang magbigay ng work permit that time kso gahol na ako sa oras nun.. I decided nalang na umuwi na pinas..wait lang kau guys..ako magandang napuntahan ko mabait na manager, kse sya naman mag dedecide kung iaallow nya kau sa more than hours..alam ng ibang managers yan..peo ngayun mahigpit na immigration.. active parin ba ang kirsten until now?


joy 4 years ago

until now hindi parin matapos itong kirsten nato. Kailan ba makukulang yang mga taga Kirsten specially si madam at si resho


lhyn 3 years ago

swertehan lang po talaga.. i have 2 friends there and ok naman po sila. and plan ko din mag apply this year. ....


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