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Words fail me as to this news quote.

  1. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    "The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission held hearings Wednesday in Washington to explore a hiring trend seen in job ads. Phrases such as “no unemployed candidates will be considered” or “must be currently employed” are peppering job boards and want ads."

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      Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You're kidding, aren't you?!

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      ryankettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      That's a strange one!

  2. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

    ...so they are reviewing the practice to determine whether or not some employers are discriminating? which could also translate into human rights cases?...if so, it's good they are reviewing it....and those employers could experience heavy penalties...

  3. Daniel Carter profile image92
    Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago

    Businesses are becoming more and more cut throat from what I can tell. Banks are leading the wolf pack with their unscrupulous tactics, and greed. Evidence is simply the profits they rake in while bankrupting their customers.

    In a time of economic trouble, it is infinitely wiser for businesses to provide opportunities so that Americans can help reestablish a healthy economy, not worsen it by creating consumers who have no ability to provide themselves.

    The mentality of the news release completely escapes me. It's reprehensible at first glance.

  4. rebekahELLE profile image92
    rebekahELLEposted 6 years ago

    yes, I saw that last night on the news. I think it's terrible that a company would only hire someone who already is employed, assuming unemployed people are somehow less qualified. I'm pretty sure it's one reason why there are still so many unemployed. Companies may not post like that ad, but they simply exclude them from consideration.

    I once saw an article about an ad where a person would only hire someone with a new car!

  5. manlypoetryman profile image69
    manlypoetrymanposted 6 years ago

    As if there weren't enough hoops to jump through to get a job...now you have to have one to get one!

    They do it to themselves though...because now after someone goes through the necessary three interviews for acceptance...and has all their paperwork in order...and are given a job offer...Someone can easily just say "No Thanks...I already have a job!"

  6. Daniel Carter profile image92
    Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago

    There's also another splash of lemon juice on this paper cut: Companies have so many potential candidates that they low ball salaries for new employees, continuing the stress on the economy while the company's profits continue to climb. Additionally, young candidates are prized over experienced, seasoned candidates, because they know they will have a much easier time creating "yes-men" in training them, and less resistance than they would from mature, experienced workers.

    But that's the illusion, isn't it. What is unethical or underhanded or not above board is not going to be accepted by your average, ethical worker. New, eager, hungry hires will go with the flow to keep the job, but in the end, they will rock the boat.

    Business culture is very hostile toward its employees and to its customers in most cases.

  7. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    I have decided to compile a list of American companies that are engaging in this practice. This is slow going.  If anyone knows of any perpetrators, posting their names here for all to see would be a good thing.

    So far, I have found:

    “NATIONAL ACCOUNT MANAGER - HOME DEPOT Job in Atlanta, Georgia US. Candidates must be currently employed ***. Good fits: Power Tools and Accessories, Pneumatics, Lawn and Garden, Plumbing, Paint, Building products, ...”

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    Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago

    Wow.
    Whoa.
    That's just weird and wrong....

  9. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    Here is an article someone I know posted on Facebook.

    Another worth reading, with regards to jobs.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookou … -not-apply

    1. paradigmsearch profile image86
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks, I will read it right now.

    2. paradigmsearch profile image86
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      WOW! 4,229 Comments in response to that article.

      I'm now going through the links in it looking for perpetrators, i.e. taking names and kicking… smile

  10. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    I have now published an ongoing hub on this subject.

    Please get those contributions coming in! smile

  11. skyfire profile image73
    skyfireposted 6 years ago

    I'm not surprised at these job columns. In third world countries this is going on for quite some time, say- last 5 years.

  12. Rafini profile image87
    Rafiniposted 6 years ago

    lol

    Gotta have money to make money!!

    Make the rich richer and the poor poorer!!


    Makes sense to me to discriminate against the unemployed!  What an idiot for being unemployed to begin with!! lol 

    hmm  Really??

  13. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Looks like those ads are disappearing fast! CYA at its best. lol

    One company is now even advertising, “Attention Unemployed! …We will hire you…”

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    Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years ago

    Chief amongst them Starbucks and, I think, Nordstroms. Can't remember. But came across quite a few of them about a year ago.

    1. paradigmsearch profile image86
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you! I'll try to confirm. smile

  15. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    DAMN! The comments count in that article dropped from 4229 to 3123. And it’s now closed. I bet those 1000+ entries were the ones that named names.

    Onward to Google cache… smile

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      lol

  16. Disturbia profile image61
    Disturbiaposted 6 years ago

    It doesn't surprise me at all. It's been a common practice in business as far back as I can remember, and that's pretty far back. The employeed job seekers are always preferred by employers over the unemployeed.  It's so prevalent that many states give tax credits to businesses as incentives to hire unemployeed workers over employeed ones.

    1. paradigmsearch profile image86
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You are 100% right.

      And they are apparently so blatant about it these days that I want to name names.

  17. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    I may have to abort this project. I’m only finding ads from little companies that no one would care about.

    I am now seeking advice as to search techniques. smile

    My dialup account is killing me as usual, so any direct text-only-non-live culprit ad links would also be appreciated.

  18. rebekahELLE profile image92
    rebekahELLEposted 6 years ago

    I think some businesses still equate 'unemployed' with the stereotypical unemployed person from decades ago. The newly unemployed are very often skilled, educated workers who are working just as hard to find employment.
    Those that oppose unemployment benefit extensions are the very people that should be hiring, (and they are often business owners), but it doesn't appear to be so. It looks more like a political statement to me, but I'll leave it at that since this is in a different topic category. To equate unemployed workers with laziness is just absurd. There are many lazy, unqualified, employed people! Look around. Companies should be more interested in hiring the right person, not whether they're an unemployed worker. If a worker is so quick to switch jobs, it might benefit the hiring employer to find out why from the current employer, not the job candidate.

  19. Bible Studies profile image78
    Bible Studiesposted 6 years ago

    I just been to a mandatory class to relearn job interviewing skills and job searching skills through unemployment.

    The lady conducting the class stated that employers are now looking at how long the person has been employed. The length of unemployment is an indicator that the person is less motivated to work.

    Not hiring any unemployed people could be the result of the same type of thinking. They may automatically think the employee did something to get fired, or the employee was not good enough to keep their job when lay offs were happening. Either way, I would think this would be discrimination and illegal.

    1. rebekahELLE profile image92
      rebekahELLEposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      it still seems these companies are only adding to this growing problem, making it even harder for those unemployed to find employment. Don't they see their hypocrisy?

      1. Bible Studies profile image78
        Bible Studiesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        No. To them all they see is a huge demand for jobs, and they get to be extremely choosy who they hire.

        If the economy ever turned around, and there were more jobs than employees, then they would stop this practice, give more benefits, raise the wages, and do what they could to get the employees they needed. That would only be for the good businesses.

        1. Cagsil profile image61
          Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Bull, it's all about control. hmm

  20. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    I know darn well this is an American national bank:

    “Interested applicants must be currently employed in the mortgage industry. ...”

    Craigslist is loaded with the “must be currently employed” phrase, but they’re all apparently blind ads that don’t reveal the employer.

    What to do... What to do... smile

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    And this is showing up a lot. lol

    "This posting has been deleted by its author."

  21. BobbiRant profile image59
    BobbiRantposted 6 years ago

    Well good luck with any 'punishment' on that one.  They will wiggle out of it all, isn't that what corporate lawyers are for?  They simply lawyer up and that's that.

  22. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Well, folks. I’ve come up with a lame list of six. The high profile ads all seem to be gone and not a cache in sight… smile

    Hopefully, I’ll find ways to add to this list in the future.
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    Here is the EEOC testimony link for any who are interested:

    http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/meetings/2-16-11/owens.cfm

    1. rebekahELLE profile image92
      rebekahELLEposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      that article is very interesting, it should upset a lot of people, rightfully. it's funny how people are so quick to blame the government for no job creation; it appears jobs are there but the unemployed aren't the ones being offered the job. People should boycott these companies blatantly stating a job candidate cannot be unemployed.  Is it any wonder why the economy is in such slow recovery.

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        It isn't a wonder to me. The government hasn't addressed the Economy as it should, since the inception of America. lol

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    Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years ago

    Essentially, the reasoning behind all this is as follows:

    1) People who are out of work are lame ducks. Therefore one doesn't want to employ them.
    2) If people are currently that one is in, then they have a list of contacts and inside information that will be of benefit to the current employer.

    The reason that they can get away with this is because there is only one job for every five people that are looking for work in the United States. That means many employees will do anything in order to get a job.

 
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