Goodbye To Hubpages Forums!

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Well HubPages staff, you’ve finally achieved your objective. I’m now ridding myself of your horribly moderated forums. It’s one thing when you have a valid reason for banning someone, but when you use forum bans to quell dissent from your actions, then it’s time for me to kiss them goodbye.

It’s about time for me anyway. The honesty and square dealing I first thought HP represented has quickly disappeared along with most of our former traffic and earnings. I cannot abide such goings-on anymore.

My latest 3 month ban--I just got back from another one month ban for making a joke and this one is for calling an anonymous windbag a--get ready for it--“an anonymous windbag.” I’m still not sure if it was the word “anonymous” or the word “windbag.” Who knows for sure?

I was once banned for saying if someone laughed, their laugh would be ridiculous. I kid you not! You just can’t make this stuff up. What’s next for the wonderful staff/moderators, banning members for calling someone a “silly goose?”

Safely Hidden Behind Anonymity

But you guys aren’t fooling anyone with your secret moderators. They have free reign to ban anyone for anything without ever revealing THEIR identity to those they are sitting in judgment of. This is the old “Trust us, we’ll do what’s right” attitude which always leads to trouble for any content writing site. I’ve observed it happen on several other similar sites and nothing good ever comes of it.

Lets face it boys and girls, we’ve got a tyrannical moderation team here and them being anonymous only emboldens them to use their power in any manner they choose. Sad but true. But let’s take a look at why the staff/mods are allowed to remain anonymous.

When asked, they will reply it’s because of the risk of members stalking the moderators if they make an unpopular ruling. What? Do you mean they are frightened by someone actually asking them to take responsibility for their actions? Isn’t this what they are asking US to do on the forums? Aren’t they getting paid to do just this?

No, the only reason their identities are kept secret is so they can punish those who ask tough questions on the forums or who dare to criticize any new or controversial aspects of the site. Even when one is banned the email comes from a voiceless, faceless entity with no chance of getting them to explain their reasons for the particular bans. They act as judge, jury, and executioner and will not address any aspect of the punishment they've dealt out.

A Pattern of Coincidences?

Furthermore, their treatment of members is far from equal as certain groups of Hubbers are protected from being banned by their silly little titles or their ability to suck-up to the powers that be on HubPages. As I have personally experienced, these “special members” can call anyone anything on the forums and escape without even a warning from the staff/mods when reported.

Fairness towards all members is simply a joke on this site. But hey, HubPages does not guarantee fairness or equal treatment to its members. Don’t believe me? Simply ask them and see the response you’ll get.

This latest ban has finally convinced me there is no hope of things getting any better here, or that the forums are good for anything other than for HP’s furthering their control over the members here. Mark my words, it will only get worse here as the staff/mods will be even more emboldened to run roughshod over those who dare to ask tough questions on the forums.

I can almost predict now when I’m about to be banned for some ridiculous reason because there will be some controversial subject or aspect of HP coming up and they do not want my input to be seen on the forums. It is a pattern which is anything but coincidental.

A Losing Battle For Fairness

I wish to tell those with whom I’ve shared some very interesting and enlightening conversations on the former honestly run forums how much I’ve enjoyed the interaction with them. I’m sorry the forums have been tainted--as have some other aspects of the site--and hope one day they will return to such a point that those writers looking to share their thoughts with others will once again find they are not being manipulated and controlled by nameless, faceless, frightened, and obviously biased staff members.

Some of you have my private email address and are aware of the sad state the forums have become and can reach me for more information concerning other recent aspects of the degradation of HP. As of now, others may contact me through my profile page. But be careful what you write on the HP contact email as they can and will read your emails to me. Big Hubber is watching!

After all, I really have no choice in this matter because if I go back on the forums after this 3 month ban is over I run the chance of being permanently banned for the slightest reason and HP has proven they will do anything to prevent anyone from criticizing their agenda.

If they can get away with using such petty reasons to ban someone from the forums, then they can get away with manipulating many other aspects of the site. And as been shown, they certainly have no compunction about doing so and certainly will. So long and watch your backs! I invite HP staff/mods to deny my accusations and prove what I am telling you is not the truth, but they will not do so. They never do. SSSSS

Revel Oh Mighty Judges!

Somewhere HP staff is singing,

Somewhere the mods will shout,

There’s tons of joy in Frisco,

Cause Randy has bowed out!

Edited for Update

HP has now removed my contact information from my profile No surprise, of course. This is merely another way of attempting to censor the writer's views concerning the blatant censorship now in evidence on HubPages. Things are heading downhill very quickly now. This is what happens when those handing out punishment do not have to identify themselves. It's always the same result and will only get worse.

For heavens sake, don't call anyone a silly goose or protest suspicious activity. HP staff is free to deny any of my statements are true here and explain their actions. I welcome them to do so. I do however, require them to do so using their real names.

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IzzyM 4 years ago from UK

Well I for one am sorry the snake will be missing from the forums. Yours was normally the voice of reason in a world gone mad. OK so you don't always agree with what other hubbers say, or how HP is being run, but in a free country it is your prerogative to say so. You are not the first and won't be the last, but you will be missed.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

I really appreciate you telling me this, Izzy. And I'll never forget when we both were insulted about our writing by the staff when our accounts suddenly plunged overnight. I now wonder if they have any idea how to treat people after all. They seem to be a cold group of folks only interested in furthering their business agenda at any cost.

You are one of my favorite Hubbers here and don't forget, you still have my email. And also don't forget my favorite saying. "Time wounds all heels!" LOL!

Randy SSSSS


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

This comment is for my friends here. Do not feel you have to comment on this hub although I do appreciate it. You will only be setting yourself up for retribution by the staff/mods yourself. I understand and thank you for your friendship in the past.

Randy SSSSS


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IzzyM 4 years ago from UK

The insult handed out to you and I was made easier to bear because he picked on two of us, not just one. It is also possible he didn't mean to insult us, and wrote his comment as a type of 'constructive criticism',(though it didn't come across that way). The hub of mine he slated still gets traffic to this day, even though it is not Halloween, so Google liked it, despite the fact that he didn't. The hubber he praised in the same comment has been permanently banned from the forums, so no favoritism being shown there. If they banned me, I'd just have to post using another subdomain name! lol If I could be bothered, that is.


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Wesman Todd Shaw 4 years ago from Kaufman, Texas

I hardly ever mess with those silly forums....but I can hardly wait to call someone an "anonymous windbag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


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Cagsil 4 years ago from USA or America

Hey Randy, I received your email about the hub. It was an interesting read for sure. And, yes we all know my reputation with getting banned from the forums. Yes, the moderators don't seem to be consistent in the banning. I did figured that much out. The system for banning is odd as well. I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to be on the forums. The forums have worked well considering other factors, but those other factors don't seem to be doing as well as they used to. So, it just might be better time well spent doing other things. I'll miss you in the forums. It's always been enjoyable. :)


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

I agree with you Izzy. It was easier to bear not being alone in the unfortunate insult to our writing abilities. Yes it is entirely possible it wasn't meant to be so hurtful, but I've come to realize the HP staff are not very experienced in dealing with real people and don't seem to know the difference in insults or ethical treatment of the members here.

There has never been an HP staffer with the ability to interact with the members in a proper manner. I've suggested several times before they hire someone with this ability but so far, nothing. It's difficult to understand why when members are giving them 40%--I suspect is is much more--of their earnings they take such a superior attitude towards them. Any other business would certainly be more appreciative for such a huge commission, but this merely seems to embolden them to take more liberties with us.

I'm sure one of these days they will learn respect works both ways. Until then, they have themselves to live with. I do not envy them in the least.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LOL! Wesman! Yes, I believe you've been at the mercy of the anonymous staff/mods yourself, Wesman. It's really a shame HP uses the forums to control the members who furnish the earnings which keeps this site afloat. It brings a new meaning to "biting the hand which feeds you" axiom which is certainly relevant to this situation.

But such businesses require cold cut-throat individuals who could care less about the feelings of theose represented by mere numbers to them. More's the pity! thanks for your comments and I'll keep in touch through other means.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes Cags, I've decided it's no use trying to keep HP honest anymore. They care not for ethics and only respect the mighty dollar. Censorship has been used by some of the most corrupt organizations the world has ever known, mostly by dictators and tyrants to control the population of their respected countries.

But it has other uses in the business world too, as is exemplified here. The lame attempts at quelling dissent here is just such an example of how it can be used to prevent those who care about others from stating an opinion on suspect goings-on on the site itself. Th reasons for mine and others--yours included--bans are laughable in the extreme.

Thanks for commenting and yes, it is a waste of time to partake in any forum which is controlled by those only wishing to hear from those who kiss asp! LOL!

Take a good look at the photo I provided. It says much more than I ever could in this hub.

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Wesman Todd Shaw 4 years ago from Kaufman, Texas

Randy I don't know how to do it all and I'm not ready too yet either...but if and when I get the chance I'm going to put every single thing from this site on my own website.

....I'm just not ready to do all that just yet.

I hadn't thought of it as "biting the hand," but that is exactly right.

I'm sure you've seen what a massive pile of poo my Facebook page is...I generally do my forum type junk there instead...nobody to ban me, but I did get deleted once for telling some random young man that wouldn't leave one of my nieces alone that his body wouldn't be found after having spent an hour in a drum of boiling lye...etc, etc,etc - which got me deleted :)


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha! That threat might be a little over the top, Wesman. However, if you were one of the "Elite" (lol) you could even get away with that on the HP forums. LOL!

But many of us older members now understand the way thing are here and this is why the newbies are pushed and promoted so much now. They've not been here long enough to realize all of the nice acting staff are just that. Acting. Like many others who have left, they'll eventually catch on to the charade.

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Wesman Todd Shaw 4 years ago from Kaufman, Texas

Hey Randy my niece says she has never since heard from that guy either!!!!!!!!

HA!

It's nothing to create another FB profile anyway.

I've lost my "mojo," I guess. I don't have any sort of inspiration to write anything here or anywhere else right now....I'm sort of bummed with the whole internet.

I think I'll watch movies and read for a bit.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

I understand, Wesman. Having to deal with such unfair practices will do that for you. I, on the other hand have too many writing projects at the moment and won't let the petty manipulations by these poor staffers bother me anymore. In fact, I feel sorry for them having to treat people in this manner. Some of them perhaps do have a conscience and such actions cannot be easy to live with just to keep their jobs.

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sofs 4 years ago

This is very sad Randy... We haven't interacted much.. but I have enjoyed your being here on the forums... Will miss you... Best wishes and take care.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks for your sentiments, Sofs. And indeed it is sad when heavy handedness is exhibited so openly. But I'm sure the Staff are quite pleased with their efforts lately. I've spent most of the last few months muzzled by these silly bans to prevent my input on some of the controversial new aspects of HP. It's just business as usual for them.

Thanks again. I'll miss talking to you and others here who I've come to regard as fellow writers and friends. :)

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Bredavies 4 years ago

Yes.. I stopped going on forums a while ago!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

I understand why, Bredavies. As a student of psychology and business you certainly understand the forums are NOT for the writers to discuss various subjects, but are for using as a tool to manipulate those here who trust the powers-that-be.

A very poor and badly used tool I might add. Thanks for reading and for your input.

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girishpuri 4 years ago from NCR , INDIA

This is sad.


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lovemychris 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

I've noticed too, a group that can say anything they want. It's almost as if you can feel them...the silent hand that rules. Censorship is not a good thing....ever. I can see personal insults as not being allowed, but personal opinions not allowed? On a writing site?

Bad form, and most definitely ssssssssssssssssssssssss.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@girishpuri--Yes, especially sad for us to have the ability to voice our concerns about new aspects of the site or for those things which seem detrimental to our community. This is what it's all about. HP wants 40% of our income here and 100% of control of our opinions. Thanks for your input!

Randy SSSSS


Longhunter 4 years ago

To me a political forum is a place you go knowing full well someone is going to say something to make you feel insulted and, if you can't handle it, you shouldn't be there in the first place. I'm sorry to see you go as I was sorry to see the ban of LoveMyChris.

I, too, have endured a couple of bans when what I said was taken completely out of context by the HP gestapo. I'll probably be banned in some way for calling the HP moderators the "gestapo" but if more than just I or you feel that way, there must be truth in the statement. The picture at the top was perfect as well.

Freedom of speech has died here on HubPages.

Great hub and keep writing, Randy.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@lovemychris-Yes, Censorship is alive and well here, depending on WHO you are of course. We all know there are some who can say anything they wish without fear of being banned while others are free game to be punished.

We all understand why too! But as I stated earlier, HP does not guarantee fairness here and only care about the money, not the members of the community. Sometimes I wonder how they sleep at night with the way they manipulate things. Thanks for your voice, LMC.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Longhunter--I really appreciate your input, Longhunter. We have disagreed before here on the forums but I always respect your right to give them whether I agree or not. This is one of the rights we've grown accustomed to having in this great country. But as you can see, it is being quelled here by nameless, faceless, moderators who we have no idea what their own personal opinions are concerning our attempted communications with each other.

So far, I have found no one who reported me for the alleged violations staff/mods claim were the reasons for my previous bans. These are simply reasons to keep me, and anyone they do not want to give an opinion, from having a voice in the way HP runs OUR community. It's as if THEY and their favorites will brook no dissent of their sometimes questionable actions.

And trust me on this one, there are plenty to be concerned about. Heil HP! LOL!

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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

Have you folks just considered not calling people names? Seems to be the pattern. Good luck in whatever you do or wherever you go next.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

It's not always name-calling stated for the reasons for the bans, Katleen, if you read the hub. And the Elite can get away with name-calling or other such insults. Even if one is on ones toes there is no guarantee of safety on these forums.

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CMHypno 4 years ago from Other Side of the Sun

Hey Randy looking over the latest forum offerings I don't think that you will be missing much lol! Even the god botherers seem to be running out of steam. Trouble is that there is no life left in the place and the tragedy is that HP is digging its own grave, laying down in it and then shovelling the dirt on top.

One lesson I have learned in life is that you can never really control anyone, and all they have managed to do by trying is drive away their more interesting hubbers and their best writers. All they will be left with is their ghastly little group of cheerleaders wondering why nobody wants to play with them any more. On any forum thread I can always tell which poster(s) is the self designated attack dog.

Wishing you all the best for the future Randy, as with your writing talents I'm sure that you will be sharing your stories for years to come. Keep in touch.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica

Am I the only one that is still naïve as to what is going on here? I know that there are people who are not elites that do the moderating, I don't know who they are but they have been here a long time. I know that many people have been banned for stupid reasons and me saying this might get me in trouble. Right now I really don't care if I get banned for saying that.

I rarely go the forums when Cags was banned and now it seems that maybe I will have to say goodbye too. I don't believe this. Can someone be banned for using those words?


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lovemychris 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

I'll share my bans as an example:

1. said something about Jesus Christ and Brenda...banned

2. A hubber was following me around for 2 days asking, "Are you drunk?" so I said, "Are you on drugs?"...banned

3. Was having a discussion with TM Mason. He said "This is why you have no credibilty with me." I said, "You have no credibility with me either."....banned

4. don't know why...made a couple of women angry, and boom! because, as soon as I was gone---the 2 of them came on and started bashing me.

5. don't know why, this time permanent

I will add, on the forum I was banned--which was a thread I started--one guy said I was hearing noises from the looney farm where I live. Another said "You have no credibilty"!!!

I get banned....they are free to speak as they wish. IF personal insults are the problem--they would have seen them insulting me....would they not?


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@CMHypno--Yes Cynthia, the forums have been vandalized by the staff/mods of late. I don't know what happened to suddenly cause the Mods to start being so picky and petty a few months ago. There have been so many stupid and unfair bans applied that we now have no idea what we CAN say anymore, much less what we CANNOT.

I've seen this same censorship thing tried on several other writing sites and it never worked. Even though HP staff can censor us legally because they are a business, we are not their employees, more like partners than anything else.

And besides this, freedom of speech is still very important to most Americans, as well as, many other English speaking countries. It's one thing to penalize folks for foul language, but another for using words you would find in almost any debate or discussion. We are all adults here. If not, then why have an age limit at all for publishing.

No, it isn't about the language or arguments at all, rather about having control over what is being said pro or con against HubPages policies or actions.

I noticed along with 3 of my accolades they've removed my contact link from my profile. This is why I know I cannot return to the forums even after my 3 month ban is lifted and thus this hub. They may whip me, but I'll always leave a few scars! LOL

I'll miss talking to you on the forums too, Cynthia. You, Izzy, and I have struggled through the whole plunge thing long before the others experienced it too. Even those who were telling us "if we produced quality content we wouldn't have plunged" had to eat their words. LOL!

We can still talk via email at any rate. Thanks so much for commenting here, I really appreciate it, Cynthia.

Randy SSSSS


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hi Cardisa. I was very sorry to hear about your recent troubles and hope you are doing well, or as well as can be expected. I know you understand about why I said what I did the other day about conversing with those bearing the "Elite" title.

I try to stick by my principles as best I can, as you can tell by this very hub. I surely did not mean to personally insult you. I met you when you first joined here and have always enjoyed talking to you about my favorite vacation spot in the world. I was dismayed when you decided to become an "Elite," not because you were trying to help out the site, but because you would be sporting a title which is repugnant to many who are proud of the equality our country strives for.

And yes, sorry to say you are a bit naïve about the reason the title was chosen in the first place. It was not to reward the bearers for their work, but to place them in a position to defend HP against any dissent from the common members. It was no simple "poor decision" off the top of someone's head, but a well known ploy used by many online content sites, a few of which I've personally experienced.

Perhaps now you and others will better understand why I was so set against the title and wanted it changed. Anyway, thanks for commenting and I hope things settle down for you in your personal life and peace of mind returns :)

Respect!

Randy SSSSS


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica

Randy, you were one of the first people I met here on hubs and I never misunderstood you. I knew your stance against the title and I know that you have nothing against me. It warmed my heart that you could put that aside to wish me well during my grief so I will never forget that. I am battling with the decision to withdraw from volunteering. I don't like anything that cause too many problems. I don't understand why people are banned half the time, as I said I am naïve to it. All I do is flag violations that I know will harm the site and greet newbies. I often ignore what goes on in the forums.

Thank you for you kind words, I really appreciate it.

One Love.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Lovemychris. My list of bans are ridiculous too, LMC. If I had called someone a dirty name or insulted their mother or something i could understand a bit more. My last ban before this one-4 weeks- was for jokingly telling a hubber another had his O's and A's mixed up in his name.

Another was for suggesting to a fellow hubber we should form a group of writers and call ourselves HubGods before the title was used for something else by HP. LOL! Another was in a racist thread when I posted the word "sodacracker" with a question mark after it. And the list goes on.

I doubt seriously these posts were reported or taken seriously by the common hubbers and were singled out for mere retaliation by the staff/mods. This happens because no one has to own up to making the decision for the bans nor hast to out their name on the emails either.

There may be a religious nut banning those posting against the believers, or a political nut banning those whose views they disagree with. We have no way of knowing as long as the staff/mods can hide behind anonymity with no excuses or explanation to me made. A very unfair and unethical system which everyone should rebel against.

I'm sorry your are banned from the forums and even those who disagreed with your views do not like the way HP has handled things. Most of have respect for the other posters right to give their views, even if we do not agree with them. It's a very important and sacred view for many on this site. But I doubt anything will change soon. Control is more important than respect--or self respect-- for some businesses.

Randy SSSSS


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks Cardisa. I knew you'd understand. :) And I never suspected you or any of the Elite with having anything to do with the bans at all. You guys do the routine jobs--perhaps the most time consuming and tedious--while the staff/mods handle damage control on the forums and decide who needs to be curtailed because of their positions on certain HP policies. These folks are marked and banned whenever they give any possible reason for doing so. It's not you guy's fault.

I've seen this before on several other writing sites, believe me. Even some of those "titled" members who called me names for taking a certain stand on those sites later emailed me an apologized for doing so because they found out they were being used for that purpose. So naivety is not exclusive to this site.

We all appreciate the job you guys do, probably even more than HP does, it's just the title and what it is used for which causes the problem. But as I said, no one blames y'all for the bans. I'm glad we are still friends Cardisa, and I'm sorry I cannot converse with you and many others on the forums anymore as I would enjoy doing. HP has made sure of that.

Randy SSSSS


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Eric Graudins 4 years ago from Australia

Randy,

You are a silly goose, as well as a bloody idiot for not realising these truths about hubpages a LONG time ago :-)

The old saying goes "in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king".

Well, after a very rare look through the forums, it looks like even the one eyed ones have bailed out, and that there are now plenty of no eyed kings holding court.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha! Eric! I am indeed a "silly goose" for trying to make the ordinary members actually see what's going on behind the scenes for a long time. HP's goody-goody front they try to put forward, as well as their awarding certain members with titles and prizes has worked pretty well for them so far. But with the latest falls in traffic and earnings only the newbies--along with the usual favorites--are still falling for the spiel.

I did realize some of what went on, just never faced moderators who refused to identify themselves on a writing site. At least the other sites had mods with nads! LOL!

Thanks for your input and I'm reporting you for the "fowl" name you called me! LOL! But don't worry, no one ever gets banned when I report them. :(

Randy SSSSS


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

If I've read the hub? Read it twice now. My comment was as much a result of reading the other comments as the hub itself.

"I can almost predict now when I’m about to be banned for some ridiculous reason because there will be some controversial subject or aspect of HP coming up and they do not want my input to be seen on the forums. It is a pattern which is anything but coincidental."

Lack of activity is the worst thing that could happen to the HP business. More effective than leaving altogether. If enough people feel the moderators are unfair and activity drops, HP will have to make some changes.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

I never said I was planning to leave HubPages forever Kathleen just the forums. I love this community but dislike the way they are being abused and used by the powers-that-be. Sure, lack of activity is what frightens HP to death, but not enough to do the right thing. These type sites always think they can get away with sneaky behind the scenes manipulations.

But let me tell you this and perhaps you'll get a better picture. There is always someone in the know on content sites with a conscience. Usually not many, and perhaps only one, but on every site I've written on there is a person near the top who knows what they are doing is unethical. Perhaps not illegal, but still wrong.

You'd be surprised at how much info gets released when someone actually has a conscience. But then, perhaps you wouldn't. You've only been here a little more than a year and haven't crossed swords with staff as of yet, and perhaps never will. It does make a difference if one simply keeps silent about things they are unaware of. Or if they are aware and still say nothing.

I wish people WOULD rise up and reclaim their rights on HP, but I doubt this will ever happen. Most are afraid they will lose the earnings they've worked so hard for if they speak up. Isn't it always like that? :)

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

I flagged this hub . . . otherwise no one would ever know it was here. This hotrod runs on auto while big brother is out playing golf.

I got a three month suspension for telling someone, "Go sit in the corner and play with yourself. You will be accomplishing just a much, but it will feel better."

I figure it was a Yankee (they can't take a joke [that's a joke]) or some anal retentive Middle Easterner with cheap translation software.

http://hubpages.com/forum/post/reply/2143334

I may go back just for some "forum frog" gigging, but that's about all.

Remember . . . Big Brother and his little minions are watching! Don't lose your accolades.

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lovemychris 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Funny..they gave me an accolade that doesn't even apply. The one about helping to regulate the forums...I don't do that. I thought they gave it to make me look bad! As if I was busting on people, which I don't. I've reported 4 times for personal attacks. 2 were upheld, 2 ignored. And that was last year.

I guess Randy is right. Once money is involved, people get hamstrung, because they don't want to lose it. So far, 4 sites I used to love have caved.

One just disallowed comments altogether, another started charging for comments, the other put in a filter, which makes your comment look like this: "How are *** doing*****?" And HP has people using personal vendettas to shut people up. IMHO

Truly, I would love to know where an American with 1st amendment rights can speak freely in a public domain?

And I hope people see what a private business does to so-called freedoms....you want that for all of America?


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pennyofheaven 4 years ago from New Zealand

Although we have different views I have always respected yours. I will miss you on the forums.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@WD Curry--HA Chip! I don't know about that. This hub is averaging over 100 views a day so far, so this shows we aren't the only ones who are concerned with the stupid bans being handed out by the hall monitors.

Your ban shows they have no idea what they are doing other than making a show of force. I think perhaps it's time for a HubPages Writer's Union here. Otherwise, they will feel emboldened to go even further with their dirty tricks.

Now they've removed my contact info from my profile, as if this would keep others from getting in touch with me. Any my wife is pissed because they removed hers too, and she's never been banned for anything here.

So far they've removed 5 of my accolades, but they can remove all of them as far as I'm concerned. This shows how childish they are as if the picture of Maddie riding the segway in a mall cops outfit isn't silly enough. I suppose they think a little comedy will lighten things up by using this photo when a banned member attempts to post on the forums. This pretty much shows their mindset concerning the feelings of those banned. they don't have a clue how to deal with people.

Sadly, this is the problem with many businesses today in this country. They hire people who don't know how to respect those they depend on for their income. It will always come back and bite them on the asp! LOL!

Thanks for relating YOUR experience with the staff/mods, Chip. As we can see by some of the ridiculous bans people have posted here, these are no isolated incidents and are purposely used as a means of controlling our speech on the forums.

If nothing else, this hub will let others know they cannot be trusted to deal honestly with us. And if they do this so frequently then they cannot be trusted to be honest on the money end of the spectrum either. I have always suspected they are manipulating the earnings too.

If they go to such extremes on the forums, then there's no hope of square dealing in the manner of our earnings. I know if this were my business and these accusations were not true, I would be here explaining how they were wrong. But then, I have a conscience.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@lovemychris--I wonder if those who own stock in HP have any idea what they are doing to people's rights? With the present state of things after the Google penalties I'll bet they aren't too pleased with the way thing are being handled here. I've always found it pays to go above the heads of those who ignore justifiable complaints by those they have harmed. Perhaps this is the time to whisper in their ears. LOL!

In my experience, those who act so aloof and untouchable squeal like little schoolgirls when they receive similar treatment themselves. Yes, they manipulate the accolades like taking gold stars away from school children. Is a lack of maturity by the staffers the main problem here? It appears to be so. They apparently have no clue how to treat adults, as is apparent with the newest staffers they have hired over the last year or so. Silly gigglers, some of them.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Pennyof heaven--This is the main point of this article, Penny. That we can discuss our different views freely without having to worry about a nameless, faceless staff/mod banning those who THEY disagree with.

Imagine being judged by someone hidden from view and not knowing anything at all about them, their opinions, politics, views on religion, or what THEY consider to be right or wrong, and we have the present situation. Even when conversing with them by email one never knows if they are discussing things with someone who knows anything or is merely the floor sweeper olaying around on their lunch hour. No accountability whatsoever.

But thanks for your sentiments, Penny. If more people here would protest such unfair treatment this would be a much better and productive place to write.

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CMHypno 4 years ago from Other Side of the Sun

If you haven't got any traffic and low earnings there is nothing that they can scare you with! What have HP done to help you, Izzy and myself get our traffic back - not much except make statements about writing quality?


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

You're right. I know from experience in my career I'm still in the honeymoon phase on HP just like that first year or so on a new job. I'm sure the other shoe will drop for me at some point. I speak my mind too much and push back when management does what management usually does.

Glad you are staying at HP. Speaking truth to power always has consequences, but the quality of this site depends on people who will speak up when it's called for. I've just seen too often when a valid argument gets dismissed because someone gets too emotional (abusive language) and gives management ammunition to attack the person instead of dealing with the issue.

Someone earlier mentioned how many views this string is getting, which is one way of sparking a little revolution. A little revolution from time to time is a good thing.

Glad to contribute to the discussion.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Randy . . . I meant the front office, not the readers. My impression is that no one in admin sees the thing (post or hub) unless someone flags it. This is Florida where snitches get stitches. Oops, I got banned for saying that, too. Someone on a religious forum had threatened to flag me for confusing them. The kicker is . . . they were already confused.

I just came to HP to try it. You saw my hub about hub karma, right? These websites who are all set up on Drupalish, TurdPress programs where you have to write code to drop a smiley face are history.

You can see from the layout that they are moving in the direction of the homogeneous Googly Facebook look with the likes and all of that. They want the user to have a continuum of experience, not adjust to a new environment. Facebook and Google think they are taking over the world, and Hubpages wants to fit in seamlessly with them.

How much time have I wasted doing layouts in this iron curtain program? Have you ever heard of Muse? That is the new format. Sub domains like our profile pages can have their own look. This mess will look like pong. Say bye bye to second rate set ups.

Get real. I ain't a lemming. I want to control my own look, and I am just wasting my time in the minor leagues, here. So are you. Your stuff is marketable. In print, you can get fifty cents to a buck a word or more. With fiction, they will still take an unsolicited manuscript.

Who knows who is running this gig anyway? It could be the Lithuanian DeMolay Brotherhood for all we know. How do you know your traffic isn't being diverted to a basement full of servers in Usukastan or some other splinter of the Soviet Union? Did you give them your Social Security Number?


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pennyofheaven 4 years ago from New Zealand

Randy, so far I have not been banned but then I go through cycles of posting on the forums and then have time out. Perhaps I am away too much? I have seen what your main reason for the article is and do find it odd that the moderators stay anonymous. I have had pause for thought at times thinking... huh.... why has so and so been banned when so and so is by far worse?. At least lately I have noticed. Some time back I was a moderator on a similar forum and one of reasons I quit as a moderator was that some of the other moderators were taking what posters were saying personally. Meaning when it didn't fit with their world view they automatically banned the poster without any warning or with no real basis except that the posters view was in opposition to their own personally held view. It usually had little or nothing to do with the way in which the poster was communicating because for the most part most posters were respectful. Those who were not always respectful were given the option to reword their post. This is fair in my opinion but as moderator your views should not enter into the equation. Option to reword were in extreme cases however. The above examples do not appear extreme at all. The fact that they are anonymous makes it all the more mysterious.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

So? The moderators are Hubbers? The rat finks!

I told you Big Brother is out of the office.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

I left the forum years ago when I was being bullied and they turned around and told me that it was my fault. Then Jason had the audacity to tell me that I should spy on my friends and report them. A lot of good that would have done. Won't go back and it is a good thing too.


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pennyofheaven 4 years ago from New Zealand

Hi WD how did you arrive at that conclusion? Perhaps you are right?


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Which conclusion? Rat finks?

As far as Big Brother is concerned . . . that Max Headroom is a rascal, and he can't keep a secret.


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pennyofheaven 4 years ago from New Zealand

Haha no I am still trying to figure Rat finks out. So no, not that.... That the moderators are possibly hubbers or posters on the forum even? Made me wonder.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

From the Online Dictionary -

rat·fink (rtfngk)

n. Slang

A person regarded as contemptible, obnoxious, or otherwise undesirable.

May I add . . . a stool pigeon, squealer, usurper, scoundrel, jerk on a low watt power trip, mooch, creep, Fox News personality, etc.

http://www.ratfink.com/rat-fink-art.php


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pennyofheaven 4 years ago from New Zealand

Haha I think I got it thanks. Gees my mind thought it was an anagram or something.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

That's true, Cynthia. But even if my traffic returned I still wouldn't put up with this type of cr*p!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

This is true, Kathleen! If enough people raise hell about such goings-on something will have to be done about it. thanks for putting in your 2 dollars worth! LOL!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

You are probably right, WD. Who knows what is really going on behind the scenes. And I am going to concentrate more on my fiction in several different formats. What do I have to lose anyway? I really don't trust HP's bookkeeping any more. If they will go to such length to ruin the forums, then there's no telling what they are doing with our money.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Exactly Penny! I'm glad to hear this from someone with experience as a moderator on other forums. The only reason for a moderator to hide their identity is if they are doing something wrong. I fail to believe they are worried about being stalked by irate posters. Thanks for this important input!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Lady Guinevere--Yes, Jason is a piece of work, Lady. Every time he suggest I leave HP I ask him how all of those spammy misleading hubs which earned millions of views were so hard to get taken down. He disappears then with no answer and a week or so later I'm banned again for some stupid reason. Mere coincidence? DUH!

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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Yep, he is a piece of something. Snake in the grass, slithering slime, and immature at that. He is NOT a moderator anymore according to the who is who on the HP. He is supposed to be a Marketing Director or something like that, which he should stay in that role.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

I lost a couple more accolades today. I wonder if it was some kind of technical problem. They have been down for maintenance a couple of times lately.

I just turned mine off where I can't even see them. I worked at an adolescent mental health facility for 10 years for crying out loud. I can see behavior mod techniques a mile away. Hubber Scores, Hub Scores, SEO concerns, accolades, comments? They are all purposely designed to induce neurosis. I call it "Hubber Frenzy Syndrom" around here. You know exactly what I mean. Yeah, that rat keeps running that wheel and hitting that button until it ignores the original motivator (food). Read the book by BF Skinner.

I suppose the original motivator would be money and exposure here. Is there another motivator . . . another incentive to write, or is the $ pouring in? I am of the opinion that you could make more money collecting cans for the recycling center if you invested the same amount of time. You would run into plenty of crazy people looking for someone to communicate with, but you had better watch your mouth out there.


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Wesman Todd Shaw 4 years ago from Kaufman, Texas

WD - just edit your profile where you hide that silly accolade crap....all that is - is bullshit.

"oh, we're mad at you...so we took your silly digital merit badges...."


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

It's their EGO TRIP. Too bad the original owners and site builders are more mature and wanted to really help people out though.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Wesman Todd Shaw - Hello? I thought I got that across. I don't even show that stuff. I don't think anyone is mad at me. The minions will play when Big Brother is away.

It isn't my fault this site doesn't have much credibility. Do editors light up when they see you are a "Hubber"?


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Ego trip? like someone on staff has a sock puppet account or two that are used exclusively on forums? Do they set stages, talk back and forth with each other and stir the stink pot? Are they used to playing tricks on the tourists? Do they perceive themselves as having intellectual prowess, word wrangling skill, and manipulative power to evoke emotion?

Here is what I learned in the mental health facility . . . hell hath no fury like an unrealistic self image exposed.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL RFLMAO


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SmartAndFun 4 years ago from Texas

I enjoyed your posts and learned a lot from you, Randy. I can be naïve sometimes and people like me need someone like you to tell it like it is. I also learned quite a bit from reading about your various online writing experiences and enjoyed your sense of humor. You'll be missed on the forums (at least by me.)


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Lady Guinevere--I'll bet Jason lets the mods know who to ban though when someone ticks him off, Lady. All of these things cannot be merely coincidental. I mean, some of the reasons for the bans are just plain stupid. It makes me wonder who in the heck is hiring the people !

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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

I agree 100 percent with that.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

I asked that on a question and I only got back that I didn't want it. Go take a look. It was for one of the moderators and how they became one. No answer for him or anyone else. So do they just pick a person out of a hat or something...very questionable for sure.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

WD--My earning have been picking up a bit over the last few weeks, but ever since i published this hub they have fell back to almost nothing. And yes, they always remove some of the accolades when you are banned from the forums. Big frickin' deal! It's like being back in grammar school dealing with these guys. I wish they'd hire some adults to run this place.

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Whatever, how much do you care to banter with the guest list of a masquerade flea market, anyway? What scares me is that I have always been right about how insane our culture is. We invest everything in the "petty and trifling" fund and throw the real treasure to the hogs.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@SmartAndFun--Thanks for telling me this, S&F! After writing on several other sites I soon caught on to how things work and endeavored to warn folks about the tactics used on these sites. I was particularly appalled at how they rigged the Question and Answer contest before this last one by allowing the judges to mentor one of their favorites while the contest was running.

After I pointed this out they used outside judges for the last one but I was still banned shortly after I blew the whistle on them. I'll miss being on the forums too but now I would be banned for any little thing and no doubt permanently banned from them.

It's too bad the forums are now tainted by the anonymous mods and I don't think they'll ever be worth using again as long as these same people are running them.

Thanks for commenting and I wish you success with your writing.

Randy SSSSS


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha! I got banned shortly before they asked people to pose queries to the staff. They sure as heck didn't want ME to ask any. LOL! I ask questions on the blog all of the time knowing they are "waiting approval" by Simone and won't get approved anyway. It probably makes that big silly bow spin around on her head. LOL!

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Haunty 4 years ago from Hungary

Interesting Hub full of stuff that leave me clueless. However, the foremost question on my mind is still this: why do you think the mods care about you so much that they go out of their way to hunt you down? Lost accolades, revenge for stuff you said a week ago, anonymous moderators, privileged Hubbers, etc. This just seems so paranoid. Isn't it possible that they're just normal people doing their job and without an over-arching agenda to bring certain people down for being frank and unreserved? I understand that you're saying HubPages operates out of fear, but I still hope that's not true.

Also, since I've seen you write this so many times... I'd like to know who the Elite are that can get away with anything. I honestly don't know. I've looked through the list trying to figure out, but to no avail.

As for the Forums, they are boring as heck! I'm also sick and tired of reading all the stupid thread titles asking about God this and God that. They literally make me nauseous. All topical forums should be terminated at once as the goings-on are utterly ridiculous and seriously humiliating to writers.

Anyway, if any of what you say about being harassed by mods is true I admire your persistence fighting back. I woulda left the first time I was harassed. But I guess snakes are different. ;)


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EmpressFelicity 4 years ago from Kent, England, UK

@WD Curry: re your B. F. Skinner comment: I've long thought that the HP management overdosed on a behaviourist textbook at some point what with all the accolades, gold stars, scores etc. The trouble is that it works - a lot of people really care about it and are genuinely bothered when they go down from being a level II commenter to a level I commenter. Presumably that's why HP does it - to keep people coming back for more. Even those of us (like me) who find this stuff annoying are sucked in, because we end up discussing how inane it is!

I've never got my head around the amount of banning that goes on in the forums here. To me, the HP forums are tame compared with other forums I've been on. If someone calls you a name on an Internet forum, it's more of a reflection on them than it is on you. And if someone called *me* a name, I certainly wouldn't report it, and I wouldn't want an anonymous third party to report it on my behalf.

I am sorry you are opting out of the forums, Randy - I can't help thinking that you might be shooting yourself in the foot though. There might be a thread there one day that you feel you have to participate in - and if you do, I can just imagine certain staff members saying something like "Well well, fancy seeing you here Randy - I thought you'd decided the forums were beneath you?"


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

The question wasn't on any forum as I only visit the broken things one. I asked it from the answer a question link on the EXPLORE tab.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Haunty--Perhaps you remember the thread I started about the Elite title, Haunty. I had one of the Elite spell out my name using the letters as words such as "devious," "neurotic" and other insulting words which had I done the same would have earned me a ban. but nothing was done to this member. However I was banned for a month until other members raised hell because I had said nothing to insult anyone.

At this poit they rescinded the ban and apologized saying it was "accidentally given." How does one get "accidentally banned?" Did a staff/mod simply have my account open while their finger slipped and banned me without noticing? LOL!

Why didn't I leave at the beginning? I've put lots of effort in my hubs and was making fairly good earnings from them, and besides, I'm not the type to back down from cretins and never have. I don't have to make up things to get ticked about when there are plenty here for the finding.

And yes, the forums are now a disaster since the mods have been turned loose and don't have to take responsibility for their actions. It makes me wonder what genius thought this was a good idea. Probably the same one who thought using the Elite title for the greeters was apt.

But thanks for the input, Haunty. I wish everyone would give their take on the ruination of the forums.

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lovemychris 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

It's very true that certain people are targeted, because I have been one. Why? Ask them!

Like you Randy---I was banned for saying something that was just said to me by a member of the staff here! Who also insinuates that I am an anti-semite who hates Jews. All the time.

I don't know, but I seem to run into trouble every time I criticize Israel, or the Bush adm.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

It is like my daughter told me . . . forums are a waste of time . . . a fantasy that the whole world is listening. So, it isn't shooting yourself in the foot to use your time more wisely.

The forums aren't so tame. There is some seriously insidious stuff out there. Of course, some group thinks that is the norm. It isn't even that. There are just way too many people hopping around forums laying in wait to catch the naïve and unsuspecting with their sticky tongues. I call them "forum frogs". Some are sponsored, or get paid by the post, but now we are back to being outstripped by aluminum can money.

That kind of stuff doesn't bode well for a quality professional writers site. It is giving me some good ideas. I'll do the "Navy" thing . . . I'll start a professional writer's site using Muse and Adobe that blows this shave ice stand out of the water!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

EmpressFelicity--I understand your thoughts about this, but even after my 3 month ban is up I would be permanently banned very quickly if I again ventured onto the forums if my past bans are any indication. It was simply a matter of time before they did this I am sure. They simply do not want anyone pointing out their manipulations here and prefer the newbies over those of us who have contributed our hard work to their site. Oh well, it is what it is!

Thanks for stopping by with your thoughts and good luck to you too!

Randy SSSSS


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Alastar Packer 4 years ago from North Carolina

Randy i'm going to miss following you on the forums. Your an outspoken, principled individual, and it was always fun to see you in action on them . Sure hope some kind of concord can be worked out in future that would see your return my friend.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes, Lovemychris--Staff can say anything at all, but not you and I. I sorta feel sorry for them having to work at such a place as this, knowing it could all fall to pieces at any time. And with the way things are going now, it may not be too long before they are looking for another job. I hope they have some other job skills to offer rather than those they exhibited here. LOL!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Cool WD! I wish someone would start a site run by adults for a change. The forums are kaput now anyway. They have gotten so boring it isn't really a hardship to avoid them anymore. I hardly missed them at all during my month ban.

I do have a blogger site which makes a few bucks occasionally, but I love to interact with other writers who have things in common with me, you being one of them, of course.


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Terri Meredith 4 years ago from Pennsylvania

Hey Randy! I'm sorry these things have happened to you. I have to tell you, though you and I haven't really interacted much, I've often enjoyed your silly little quips. The funny thing is that I'm usually of a different opinion to yours, but am able to see that you present with humor. I can't think of a single time I've ever read any of your responses and thought you were stepping over the line. In fact, it's quite the opposite. I've found it refreshing that you can convey your opposition with such good grace.

I have pretty much stayed out of the forums since last summer. Wesman and I have quite a bit of the same type of thinking regarding certain issues and for some reason, those who were constantly hounding him (stalking) decided they would do the same to me. It didn't matter what forum I posted an answer, there they'd be within an hour posting something meant to imply that I'm an idiot, stupid, unknowledgable, etc.. Now, I'm not someone to state any absolutes about anything unless I can present my case with backup. It's ok to disagree with me, but gee, I might ask to know how someone came upon their determination. These folks would never answer, just harass. Poor Todd! He just can't resist rising to the bait, but I can maintain logic and decorum in the face of such obvious childish behaviors. What I've observed is blatantly childish, petulant behavior in an arena that is meant for adults. I've never reported anyone for anything they've said. After all, it's just words...and I take them as a personal challenge for me to improve my own understanding of the topic at hand. The bottom line is that if one is not able to rise above their own petty selfish concerns, they shouldn't be given a position of authority, for aren't they the role models we should be looking to? Should we take their behavior as a sign that we should all throw maturity and common sense to the winds and let it be a free for all? I've never been banned, but I've been accused of talking about specific people even though everything said was generic and no names were ever written. I never cease to come away without being amazed at how quickly the guilty will make themselves known by not being able to ignore a comment they believe is about them. Talk about overblown self-importance.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Alastar! You are one of my favorite writers here as we both enjoy writing about much of our country's history. I do try to be as honest as I can on the forums and this sometimes gets me in trouble when I speak my mind. I suppose it's not always the correct thing to do but I'm too old to change my ways. LOL!

I know I've been accused of stirring the pot a little too much by some on HP, but I only do so for the benefit of those on this site who won't do it for themselves. Sometimes things need to be said and I'm used to doing it. Ha!

I too wish there was some way to mend the fences which have broken down between the staff and the members, but I'm afraid they do not care to do so. Whatever, it is what it is. I'll still keep an eye on your work and we can still keep in touch without the silly, and now fairly useless, forums. keep on writing now, ya heah! :)

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Haunty 4 years ago from Hungary

I just came back to acknowledge that yes, I remember that, I know who wrote it and I don't know whether it was taken in the spirit in which it was intended. I shouldn't judge that anyway, but since you took offense, I hope you received an apology.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hello Terry. I certainly understand your viewpoint and agree with your actions concerning those who would harass anyone here. I've never gotten really angry with anyone on the forums and always take others insults with a grain of salt and a smile. Words mean very little when coming from someone I don't really know. This is why I wonder why some of us are seemingly picked out to penalize for some little something we said.

I consider Wesman a friend and have since right after he joined here. I don't always agree with those I consider friends, but isn't that how it is in real life anyway? I don't understand why folks get so out of whack about the conversations on the forums anyway. But thanks for stopping in and giving your viewpoint. I ban no one from doing so here, no matter their opinion. Good luck to you!

Randy


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mega1 4 years ago

psssst, Randy! over here! yeah. Is it cool now? Can I talk to you? I have nothing to say really, as usual, except that it's a shame. We will miss you too much, I am sure. but I don't know why. I also think the staff has changed, and gotten more conservative. I have a feeling the whole world is more conservative than I thought it would be by now - what are we going to do? Me, I'm hiding out and keeping a low profile. And what you do with all the time you're going to have now, oughta be a good hub or two - I wonder what you will do? I would like to pull away, but I find myself gravitating to the forums even when I don't really care or have anything to say- its a habit. Have fun, no matter what you do, Randy!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

No Haunty, I didn't take offense at all to the post she made. It was made in fun and didn't bother me at all other than the fact that if I had done the same thing I would have been banned for it. I like her but not the badge she wears nor that those sporting the title are immune to being banned.

I'm not angry at any of the Elite, just at those who hung the unfortunate title on them. :)

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jacharless 4 years ago from Between New York and London

You know, Mr Godwin, I despise when good, wholesome -sometimes heated- conversations become subjected to tyrannical authoritarianism. Am not shocked but not happy either to see you banned, again. Funny of it, was banned for 10 days due to a lengthy, but not-so-inaccurate statement, regarding the site, on a thread for some new feature. When I requested the detail of what violated the rules, the answer was "petty arguing". Sigh. So that happened.

I shall miss the dialogue w/you. If it changes, hiss my way. lol

Cheers, James


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks so much, Mega! It's good to hear from some of the writers that were here when I first joined HubPages. It was a different place back then with more respect between the writers and the staff. Now, not so much, which is really a pity because then I couldn't wait to get up in the morning and see what was going on around the site.

I don't know what has happened to this place now. Instead of respecting the staff and believing what they had to say, now many of us wonder if what they say is true or if they are merely tolerating us for the money we furnish the site. I'm afraid the latter is closer to the truth now.

Why else let anonymous moderators run roughshod over those of us who remained faithful to them through hard times and instead, court the newbies who have done very little to contribute at all? It just makes no sense at all.

In almost every case when I've been banned i have to email the team--whoever they are--to find out the post which resulted in my ban. This last time they merely gave me the thread and not the post until I demanded an official answer.

What kind of moderation is this anyway. It;s as if they want you to have to guess what you said that was wrong. And still, the reasons are so silly when you find out it only makes you wonder who the heck these people are.

Anyway, thanks for your well wishes and for stopping by and giving your viewpoint. By the way, apparently people are interested in this topic as this hub is knocking on 400 views since I published it Sunday. evening. Someone cares!!

Randy SSSSS


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@jacharles--This is really the funny part, James. Even those of us who disagree on things have respect for the other's right to do so. More so, it seems than the moderators have for our right to debate with each other on certain topics.

Since this is supposed to be a writers site and a place to interact with those who have different viewpoints, it seems the height of absurdity for them to decide for us whether we are insulted or enlightened. It's as if THEY have appointed themselves the arbiter of right and wrong concerning our discussions. It defeats the entire purpose of having such forums in the first place.

The comments on this hub has certainly enlightened me as to how many writers have been subjected to the moderators wrath. I had no idea so many members had been banned until you guys commented here. Now I wonder how many haven't been banned at least once.

Are they simply doing this to scare everyone from complaining on the site? it certainly seems that way. Perhaps a hub with a poll asking about this is in order now. The results may be even more surprising that we may think.

Thanks for your input James. I hope this serious problem can be resolved and we can discuss things again without the worry of being vandalized by the moderators one day soon. :)

Randy


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lovemychris 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Don't forget the people who do the reporting. I get the feeling that there are people who report in a group. Kind of like a hive. They don't like you---they ALL don't like you, and act accordingly.

"Oh--so and so has made another comment. Let's all report that dreadful person and get him/her banned."

As an example, I was shocked to see swear words here, because I had been warned it was a bannable offense.

But no one knows if no one reports. So--some have freedom to speak, other must watch their every word.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

lovemychris--I wonder sometimes if the posts are reported at all, or if the mods themselves simply take it upon themselves to police the forums for the purpose of making themselves feel powerful. After all, what self respecting person would have such a job anyway?

I've yet to ask the person I've supposed to have insulted and have them say THEY reported it. Most reply they didn't take it seriously at all and didn't know about the ban. But it may be as you suggest, a group of like minded people with nothing better to do with their time. If so, I feel sad for them.

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Will Apse 4 years ago

I know that I was unkind more than once but I will still miss your posts.


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pennyofheaven 4 years ago from New Zealand

Randy, you could be right about the mods taking it upon themselves. If the thread that was closed was the reason you were banned. There were more than two of you who were banned. It was unlikely that others reported the thread because most contributors had their own strong opinions including the OP.

As a former moderator in forums, taking into account age, nationality and first language was important to assess whether or not a post was intended to be harmful or merely opinionated.

As a participant in a forum like hubpages it appears not many take these factors into account and tend to read more into a post than was intended. The attacks begin and the counter attack and defence positions begin. I find though that a lot of the older generation tend to not take anything so personally. After all it is just a forum. I doubt whether any body speaks like some of them do in real life.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

HA! No problem Will! We are all entitled to our opinions and I never took it personally. Or at least some of us are entitled to our opinions. Apparently not me though. LOL! Thanks for dropping by, I really do appreciate it. Good luck with your writing. :)

Randy


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Penny, your experience as a mod sounds like it was as it should be, but these guys--whoever they are-- are apparently free to do as they please. As I said earlier, I never realized just how many writers had been banned by these nameless folks. I beginning to think they are doing this to keep anyone from bucking the HP system. Scare tactics, in other words.

But they are only hurting themselves as they will find out. These types of actions will always come out and heaven help them if it does.


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earthbound1974 4 years ago from Bicol, Philippines

Well, I haven't banned from the Forums, since I didn't write my first comment, yet.

Thanks for warning me. As a newbie, and not so active on HubPages, I was frightened (already) when Google AdSense banned me from applying again 'coz I accidentally touched an ad on my hub.

I explained it to the Google staff (whoever they are) and HP staff (too), but they never (or never will) resolve it.

I write, nowadays, because I want to. Even without monetization from Google AdSense or even HP Ad Policy Program.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hello earthbound. Well, I'm sure HP will find some way to ban you even if you don't comment if you get on their bad side. LOL! And no, I wouldn't depend on HP staff to help you much with your Adsense problem. Since you are from the Philippines it is hard enough to get an Adsense account anyway.

But nowadays it is fairly hard to make money here anyway as many of us who formerly had good traffic have been penalized by Google because HP allowed too much junk to be published on this site.

Thanks for stopping by and commenting and good luck with your writing.

Randy SSSSS


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Chris Neal 4 years ago from Fishers, IN

Well, even though you and I rarely agreed about things, we did have some good discussions on the forums. Not being as plugged in as some, I have often wondered about those who were banned and why. Sorry to see you go!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks Chris. Since I wrote this hub I've discovered there seems to be quite a few of us given 3 month bans lately. Many of us seem to be banned for making anti-religious posts or at least posts which seem to be against those of believers. I suspect one of the moderators is using his/her own personal beliefs to control what is said on the religious forums.

If true, HP is running the risk of being charged with religious discrimination. Not even their cruddy little TOS will protect them if this turns out to be the case. This is the result when moderators are allowed to act anonymously.

Yes, we've had some good discussions and though we differ on some things, I respect your right to give your opinion on the forums. Too bad the mods don't feel the same way and have corrupted the forums to the point of them being worthless except for spreading propaganda. Good luck, Chris!

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

It is all about slinging words at the search engine around here . . . end of story.

http://www.thesunmagazine.org/


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lovemychris 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

I would say I most definitely feel discriminated against.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Perhaps you are correct, Chip. Wondering about your link and what I'm supposed to get from it? I must be missing something. Knocking on 500 views on this hub now, so apparently many are concerned about the downfall of the HP forum these days.

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Sun Magazine. I probably should keep it to myself. Your stuff is perfect for them.

Get five or six gigs like that a month and you can retire in Georgia.

There is competition. You can't just sign up and start slinging.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

So do many of us, lovemychris. Apparently it is the way of the world now on HP. Censorship seems to be in full swing now. A writer's worst nightmare.

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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

"Many of us seem to be banned for making anti-religious posts or at least posts which seem to be against those of believers. I suspect one of the moderators is using his/her own personal beliefs to control what is said on the religious forums."

You hit the nail on the head with that one. It has been this way since I joined 4 years ago. That is the main reason I quit the forums with the exception of the Help and Report a bug forums. Even there they can take your thread down for no apparent reason.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks WD! I wondered if this was the case! I may give them a try. It seems like an interesting site. I'm off now to finish a job I started this week so I'll get in touch with you later. Thanks again!

Randy


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey Randy, so you’re banned for 3 months, ‘eh?

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

Other than me. I’m also banned for 3 months, as a result of comments I made on the “Thanks to God for our patriotic military personnel” thread back around Memorial Day. You were posting on that thread after just having come off a 30 day ban. You replied to me, “If you don’t want to get banned, then become an Elite.” I tried but was rejected with the reason: “You are too intelligent to qualify.”

Anyway, I wrote a hub about being banned this time entitled Combat Veteran Banned for Defending “Thanks to God for our patriotic military personnel.” Incidentally, Brenda Durham, who started that thread is also banned for 3 months.

Before that, on May 2, I did a hub entitled HubPages, What Are You Thinking? about my other bans. In fact, I quoted you in a comment I put on 3 weeks ago. I just put on new comment on it referring to your hub here.

What I tried to emphasize in HubPages, What Are You Thinking? was how foolish all this arbitrary and capricious banning is from strictly a business perspective.

Now, in reading your hub and all the comments, I’ll ask again, HubPages, what are you thinking?


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Randy, I'm not going to say that the people behind the veil around here suck, because they would probably demote me again and take away one my little rounds start button is up there. Boo-hoo who? I really don't care, I made comments in the comment section that were put up on Facebook by the elite as an example of a bad attitude. So I e-mailed the elite, telling them I could check sly just thought I would ask if they did that. Oh no was the reply. They checked my status and there was nothing pending, I suppose they think we must be stupid.

I login, and if I have comments I respond and logout. Then I use Google reader and the RSS feeds to get to the writers I'm familiar with, and have the same ability to search and add more without ever joining up. Since I've joined up I suppose I'll wait for my ban, then collect my luggage and move on.

Peace,

50


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LadyG--Yes, by keeping the mods nameless we have no idea if the same person is banning everyone who he/she disagrees with or not. They may be getting a kick out of messing with those who don't believe as they do.

But now I'm wondering if almost everyone who pots on the forums gets banned at least once to keep them from complaining about any new aspects of the site. It's anyone's guess!

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EmpressFelicity 4 years ago from Kent, England, UK

I have often been critical of HP on the forums, and I've never been banned (at least I don't *think* I have - I don't post in the forums every day so it's possible that at some point, I could have been given a three-day ban without my knowledge lol).


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

BLACKAND GOLDJACK--HA! All of the cool people are banned--well, except for Brenda LOL!--it seems. Yes, I should have warned you to dumb it down a bit if you wanted to be an Elite! :P

Now I've discovered many more people who have 3 month bans and it is beginning to be rather suspicious. I talk to some of them on FB who I didn't realize were also banned for the same period.

It makes me wonder if they are trying to clear the boards of the older members because of some new changes they would complain about on the forums if they weren't banned. HP staff are not very slick when it comes to pulling a fast one over us. I mean, look at the Q&A contest and how transparent that was. LOL!

So this may be "what they are thinkin'! DOH!

Thanks for telling me about your ban and I hope everyone who is banned will let us know. I'll bet the number of hubbers banned right now is higher than we think. No wonder the forums stink so bad now.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

50 Caliber--Well Dusty, don't expect to get any straight answers from the staff. They'll hem and haw around and deny everything sort of. This is the best you can hope for with them. I used to have some respect for them. "Used to" is the key words in this statement. I don't know what they are trying to do now with all of the petty bans unless it's to try and control those who post on the forums a lot.

Until I posted this hub and talked to other members via email and on other online venues, I never realized just how many of us have been given 3 month bans. Seems to be more than merely coincidence.

You'll probably not be bothered since you don't post on the forums much. Thanks for dropping by and giving your opinion. More folks need to do the same so HP can realize just how detrimental these sort of actions are to their reputation.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Empress Felicity--It's very possible you could have been banned without knowing it. I never know I'm banned until I go to post on the forums and get the picture of Maddie dressed in a mall cops outfit riding on a segway saying " SORRY, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO POST and then the forum thread which you are banned for.

Lately, they merely list the thread and not the particular post which caused the ban. I must then email HP and they finally point out the offending post which is always some petty reason or another which really makes no sense as a reason for the ban. And still, you never know who sent the email or applied the ban. Pure chickensh*t!

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Mit Kroy 4 years ago from Georgia,USA

Randy, send me an email address and phone # before you decide to disappear from HP.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Mitt! Long time no see! My email address is on the bottom of this hub. The mods have removed my contact info from my profile page and that of my wife on her profile page also. Some real nice guys they are, NOT! LOL! Drop me a line if you like. Good to hear from you. :)

Randy


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lovemychris 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Supreme Court just ruled that you can't stop someone from lying because speech is protected.

Yet, businesses stop people from speech all the time! Private interests trump freedom of speech? It seems so.

Look at the ad under here....I had ads disabled on a hub about abortion rights, yet here they are with a petition to overturn row v wade!

Something funny is going on here, and I don't mean haha


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LMC-Yes, the laws seem to be slanted towards businesses these days. They can take people's blood for drug tests or give them lie detector tests if they choose. We've lost so many rights I wonder where it will end.

Look at HP. We give them at least 40% of our earnings here--and probably more if we knew the truth of the matter--and we have no recourse if they mistreat us but to abandon our hard work and leave.

Yep, life is fair! LOL!

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Let me add this. I worked in “Corporate” on the freaking Space Coast (American corporate culture personified) for a total of 15 years. By federal and state law, you don’t have freedom of speech in the work place. There are strictly defined parameters for behavior. You can’t discriminate, period . . . no if ands or buts, and no grey areas. You can discuss religion, politics, and other subjects, but had better keep it civil. Demean anyone in any way, and they may just walk you out the door and send your effects later.

HubPages is a workplace. Just because it is on the internet doesn’t mean that it is acceptable to drop to the “Globo-trash” standards of World Wide Web pop culture. Florida is a right to work state. There are stronger labor laws here than in most places. It is easy to bring employers in line around here. I am tempted. It would be nice to set a precedent.

Here is a preview of the hub you just inspired . . . “My first day on HubPages.”

Sign up - publish hub - read the lit - participate in forum, rack up karma. Religion! Let’s see what others in the world believe to reach a higher level of understanding for better communication to work for the common good? No. Within five minutes, I ran smack dab into EarnestHub (and his entourage), God rest his soul, anyway, amen.

What is the message? You are not welcome here. If you stay, you will get more of the same. Go away.

Was I miffed? Save it for the tourists. I have a lifetime of experience being the new kid in town. I can bust a move if I have to. Don’t cross me, I’m a busy street. I have extensive training and years of experience working with the mentally ill. I handled it. I am a rare individual. In time, we worked through it (some Christians piss me off, too). Earnest’s interest and our discussion of Native American religion inspired my highest rated hub, “Comanche”.

I was able to turn the head of the bull. Meanwhile, HubPages forums come across like the back lot of a travelling carnival.

The forum post where I got banned? “The Big Dick Cheney Gets a New Heart.” Let’s say you went to work a Boeing and sent that out to your coworkers. Lucky you! It is your first offense and you have all of your employee assistance benefits to cover the cost of mandatory counseling. Don’t do it again.

There needs to be a professional standard for posts, trolling has no place in a “the most rewarding place to be published on the internet.” Besides it is embarrassing when publishers, customers or friends see that shit. People around here think they are just cutting up in the break room.

Got banned for this one and was never able to reopen the discussion.http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/90506#top


Longhunter 4 years ago

I'd like to see Paul Deeds post something on this hub. Is he the head guy or not?

Is he even aware what his moderators are doing?

I noticed something when they banned LMC from the forums. She had contributed so much to the political forums it took TWO WEEKS for her name to drop from the #1 contributor spot. Don't get me wrong. She and I didn't always agree or get along but I'll admit those forums just aren't what they use to be without LMC posting.

How would Deeds and his staff feel if writers started peeling to write elsewhere and bad-mouthed HP? His is not the only game in town and reputation can be everything when trying to maintain a presence on the web.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

I don't think that Deeds or Edmondson venture into the hubs that much. They are way too busy changing the TOS that once you get used to it it changes drastically or the software they have changes to thing people don't really care for. There is a new owner too and I heard or it was rumored that Deed and Edmondson sold HP out from under us. You can see who is who when you go all the way down this pages and click on "ABOUT". BTW there are many great hubbers who have already left and in droves. That didn't affect anything here. It's like the Fast Food business....hey can always pull off the street and get new hubbers and hubs that way.

Randy, what happened to your FB page?


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lovemychris 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Professional standards would be actually enforcing the rules. Not breaking them yourself! How can you be taken seriously, when you say the same thing that you banned someone else for?

The rules say be civil.

But people here are so uncivil it's not even funny. I mean--what are cave monkeys? Is Russssshhhhhhh Limbaugh in the house?

Someone can say you are riding the stupid horse, and it's not considered a personal insult...but is it civil?

Professional would be treating people equally, and that does not happen. So--they are putting standards on the writers that they don't apply to themselves, or to every Hubber.

Insults are insults. Couching them in clever ruses is not fooling anyone. And those who are disliked can be insulted willy-nilly by anybody. But say a word cross-wise, and you're out on your keester.

And thanks for your support LH....you're a sweet-heart for trying.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey WD Curry,

That “Forum Frogs” thread you started and got banned about is quite interesting. I’d like to post on it, but unfortunately I’m arbitrarily and capriciously banned from the forums. Not to mention that the thread is closed.

The only scumbag worse that a forum frog is a forum report monkey. They must get points for accolades for squealing like stuck pigs. That or bananas.

This exchange on that “Forum Frogs” thread is hilarious:

WD: “You haven’t learned the lesson from the hub. Quit being a fool.”

1st Report Monkey: “There it is, congratulations. You just won a personal attack report.”

WD: “You are a weenie, cry-baby comrade. Real Americans stand up for themselves. Go tell Big Brother.”

2nd Report Monkey: “Wow. Two reports in as many minutes. A new record I think.”

Another site has this in their Terms of Service pertaining to forum participation:

“You do not have the right to NOT be offended on these forums. We have a diverse group of members and we do not control the things they post (within reason) including things that might offend you.”

Those who are so easily offended should stick to talking to themselves.

Hey HubPages staff, instead of arbitrarily and capriciously banning authors, when you get a squeal from a report monkey, why don’t you just copy and paste: “You do not have the right to NOT be offended on these forums. We have a diverse group of members and we do not control the things they post (within reason) including things that might offend you.”


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Hey B & G - I just wanted to host the party and see who showed up. Those who dish it out on a regular basis , but can't handle a little Florida trash talking, and a few snooty Hubbers who don't want to hear squat from a newbie.

It is wild that they closed it for posts. I came up with some good ones when I was banned, and never got to use them.

One thing I need to let you know . . . A Troubled Man is a woman.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

WD- I agree moderators are needed on the forums, Chip. Having them is not my complaint. Forums are no place for foul language--again this is subjective--or outright threats. But some of the jokes and jabs are just that. I actually don't know what to say on the forums anymore. Apparently jokes are forbidden because most of may bans were the result of joking around. Nothing foul about them either.

This is why I cannot come back to the forums again. Obviously, the staff/mods never laugh. Poor them!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Longhunter--Those guys don't want to answer questions. It's hard enough to get anything out of them on the regular forums, much less in a semi-hostile environment.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Lady G--This could explain a lot if HP has been sold. We'd better keep an eye on the TOS or suddenly HP could claim our articles as being site property or claim them as non-exclusive rights. This would prevent us from removing them and using them on the net because of them then being considered duplicate content.

My FB account was locked because of some sort of security breach. it should be okay now.

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Beth100 4 years ago from Canada

Are you serious?!? Banned -- again?!? What?!? Okay. Initial shock is wearing off......

Wait.... HP was sold?!? My head is reeling!!! I am sooo clueless this week!!! -.-

hmmmm..... as always, you have me turning my ice floes looking for the dark shadows that escape my eyes as they slither under and deeper. Luckily, I have escaped the wrath of banning.... (knock on my head)

Though I am not as active as I use to be, I will miss my hissing friend and his forked tongue. ;) The banter will not be the same without you. Come, and come slither around with me up here in the North. We're much too cool to be bothered with much. :D (and our polar bears are extremely territorial and protective) lol

Will miss you my sssssssssserpentine friend!! xo


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha, Beth! I don't know if HP ha been sold, just alluding to Lady Guinevere's comment above. Yes, apparently calling someone an anonymous windbag is over the line. :o

But hey, I'm still talking to everyone who really counts to me on HP on this hub. So who needs the stinkin' forums? And thanks for the invite to cooler climes, but snakes are coldblooded you know. :)

I'll still be lurkin' round.

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pennyofheaven 4 years ago from New Zealand

@ Blackandgoldjack

I am a report monkey. I report spammers who think I need a link to increase my Penis or think I need to look younger, need bigger breasts or need a power pill of some kind. And yes I got an accolade for that haha. Who knew that you get an accolade for that?

I agree, that those who are so easily offended should stick to talking to themselves. I have never found the need to report a non-spammer.


Longhunter 4 years ago

If calling someone an "anonymous windbag" is over the line then 90% of the people who participate in the political and religious forums should be banned, including myself.

And, you're right, Randy. I've had a couple of dealings with Paul Deeds and the chick named Maddie and they steer clear of any confrontation. The last person to ban me was "anonymous" and my comment was taken totally out of context.

This whole site has become increasingly boring. It just hasn't hit that point where it's more boring than my job but it's getting there, especially with you and LMC banned from the forums.


Rad Man 4 years ago

I just got back from a two week ban about a month ago. I have no idea what I did or said nor could I find anywhere to ask. You can't learn if they don't tell you what you did.


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

SSSSS my brother, I hear a place called" Triond" is around, just have not checked it out yet. I know one who pulled her stuff and went there, another pulled her stuff and went to Yahoo and her 1st months pay beat her all time pay here at HP. Both writers have been published since, both in the childrens book realm, but hard back not e book, and published is published, is what I think.

I've no desire to be published as I don't answer to anybody on any terms that are not of my choice. I've checked the forums now and again and found for the most part there was nothing funny or fun taking place. Some guy Mark Knowls I think his name was, accused me of being a guy who "got my rocks off" challenging his speak, I said nope, just seeing if you are the fool you represent yourself as, bam, banned in 1 minute. I just changed my IP and registered anew and came back and stalked him and found that like DEEDs he was a butt sniff who got folks banned. So I unloaded and got my new self banned, and with my IP swapping program could do it all day, but I just don't know why I would bother when there are much better forums to visit elsewhere that have a sense of humor and fun. So with ease I avoid them here.

I read what I want and pass what I don't and stick around due to friends like you that write for me,

http://www.triond.com/info/how-it-works/

dust


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Do you remember this one? It is a classic. I made it all the way through without getting banned. That day, I was working on ordering materials and arranging stuff with folks. I had little gaps of down time, I was waiting on call backs, trying to explain things to a shipping clerk who wouldn't let me finish a sentence, and editing a book that is one long rough draft in three different tenses.

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/96304?page=2

Ever since the Forum Frog thread, I have been "forum frog gigging". I had fun with it. It really elevated my mood.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

It gets good about halfway down.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Dusty, that looks interesting, since I am really an artist. I work with some young dudes in a production company. This might open up some possibilities.

When I came here, I committed to do 50 hubs. I keep taking some down and moving them around, like the one I put on this site. These guys will be hitting full stride in a couple of more years. After hanging with them all day, I forget that I am not 24. I look in the mirror and get a shock!

http://pureoceantv.com/ they are having trouble with Word Press and their background isn't showing up. So much to do!

I think I will just knock out my last two hubs and let them sit. I don't know. I like doing hubs, but I can't afford to play games for chump change. I will gig forum frogs for free. I like the recreational diversion.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Problem Solving 101

A problem has been identified by this hub and the comments.

Does anyone disagree?

Define the problem: Authors are being arbitrarily and capriciously banned.

Does anyone disagree?

Possible courses of action:

1. Maintain the status quo.

Advantages/disadvantages

2.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Longhunter--Yes, the staff seems to wish to communicate anonymously or not at all. Unless of course you contact them personally. And then it's like pulling teeth to get a straight answer out of them. It's basically a form of internet snub, as well as, a "cover one's asp" type of move. You know like-"No, I didn't send that email, did you send it? Who, me? No! I was out shopping that day." LOL!

And the forums keep getting worse unless you want to play some of the silly games on there. Interesting debate has been stifled to the point that you cannot say anything at all without fear of a ban. I suppose HP wants it this way. Well, they got it!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Rad Man-I almost always have to ask for the official reason for the ban. They never explain it, they merely point out a post. Usually it's something you said which you never expected to get banned for. I've been banned at least 3 times for making a joke. perhaps more than that.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

50 Caliber--I understand completely, Dusty my friend. These forums are more trouble than they are worth. But If I see something on the site I don't like I want to be able to bitch about it! LOL! Especially when they're taking a good chunk of my earnings.

Yes, I've heard of Triond, but I think I'll give e-books and some print venues a try with my fiction. I don't depend on the money I make writing and I'd rather write fiction than info articles anyway. So I don't have anything to lose and I can write what I like.

I sold a few short stories a several years ago and like you said, you do your own deals. I've never had a boss before except when I was a teenager, so you might say I'm a bit too independent already.LOL!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@WD--Yes, I loved the picture of the kid leaving and that of the frog Gigger.(is that a word?) LOL!

But sorry, having fun on the forums is VERBOTEN!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

B&G--Yes, but the problem is apparently ours. We simply do not know our place. LOL!

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Beth100 4 years ago

Since when were you cold blooded?!? You seem pretty warm to me. :) At the rate the climate is changing globally, by the time you slither up here, you will be greeted with:

1. lush tropical forests with tons of juicy bugs from the warm south clime; or

2. hot scorching desert with tons of burrowing juicy bugs from the hot south climes.

Oh, you may slither over some relations as many of my favorite slinky creatures are heading up here too. :)

At least if you come on up, you'll know your place. :D


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

HA Beth! The way the heat is being applied to me you may have something there! LOL! But I am sometimes cold-blooded if the situation calls for it. A slither or two may be in the offing, as well as a hiss! :)

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Beth100 4 years ago from Canada

:D xo and my furry friends say RAWR!! :)


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Aha! Now they have an "a" badge for those in the new apprenticeship program. Shoulda added a "k" as well. LOL!

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Here's one for you. I lasted about a day. I don't see how this happened, other than I put a bug up someone's kazoo. Tourists! Chomp Chomp!

http://hubpages.com/forum/post/reply/2147888


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha! Well WD, I tried to click the link on your post but all I can get is that photo of Maddie on the Segway telling me I'm not allowed to post on the forums. I've never encountered this before where I can't even access a thread to read it. Apparently they want only their pets to post these days. Well, they are welcome to it. This place is no longer worth wasting time over. Besides, something is screwed up with the earnings on both Amazon and Adsense. Who knows how much money is being made here anymore or what share we are getting? Too bad for the honest folk. Sorry, I wanted to read your post but even if I put the link in the address bar, I still get the "you are not allowed to post" message without being able to read the thread. Heil HubPages! LOL!

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

No, it wasn't a post. Look again. It is Maddie telling me that I am not scheduled to be reinstated at all. I hit it out of the park. I am not sure which post got me banned. They weren't any worse than anyone else, just better.

So, I guess I'm joining you. No more forums for the Chip Dog.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

I still can't access the reply, Chip! But hey, who needs these sorry excuses for forums anyway? These are the worst run forums on the net and we're better off relegating them to those who deserve them. I'm taking your advice and moving on to better things. I'll use this site to get input on my fiction before removing it for other places. That's about all it's good for anymore. HP is doomed to failure sooner rather than later with the present staff running it into the ground anyway. Amateurs!! LOL!

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Rad Man 4 years ago

I can't access the replay as well. I've also been losing interest. Not making any money and will not give tax info. I can't make any money here, but it has been entertaining at times.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Rad Man--Ha! Entertaining is an understatement lately. LOL! I wonder where the staff will go after this place folds? I'll be glad to give them a reference--at The National Enquirer!!! :)

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Rad Man - You are a gas. I have enjoyed watching you entertain yourself. I would love to be sitting in the same room with the forum frogs and having some of these discussions. It is kind of cool, though. Since no one can see your face or hear the inflection of your voice, there seems to be an element of projection from the reader that makes it a trip.

Randy - I can't afford to fool around with this. I haven't even made $5o yet. I make that much in an hour sometimes doing art, making signs, or writing for print. I came here to get something up for editors to get more writing jobs. What a dumb ass. This is a Pachinko game.

I set a goal when I got here . . . 50 hubs. I have written more, but I keep moving the good ones. I have 3 more and some rearranging, and then I will let them "marinate". I have a great recipe for form frog fricassee.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Rad Man - You are a gas. I have enjoyed watching you entertain yourself. I would love to be sitting in the same room with the forum frogs and having some of these discussions. It is kind of cool, though. Since no one can see your face or hear the inflection of your voice, there seems to be an element of projection from the reader that makes it a trip.

Randy - I can't afford to fool around with this. I haven't even made $5o yet. I make that much in an hour sometimes doing art, making signs, or writing for print. I came here to get something up for editors to get more writing jobs. What a dumb ass. This is a Pachinko game.

I set a goal when I got here . . . 50 hubs. I have written more, but I keep moving the good ones. I have 3 more and some rearranging, and then I will let them "marinate". I have a great recipe for form frog fricassee.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

I was making some decent beer money about this time last year for little effort, Chip. $600-$700 per month till I lost all traffic overnight when I switched to sub-domain. Chump change I know, but at least I could justify spending time here. Now I'll be lucky to make $1oo from Google this month and even less on Amazon. Now with all of the silly forums bans I don't trust staff to deal honestly with me anymore. How could anyone trust people with their idea of fairness? I have no idea!! I still can't access the link you provided. I get Maddie in the mall cops outfit still. Very insulting for this to be sent to an adult as if it's funny for them to ban folks. Great guys they are!! LOL!


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

That's it. Maddie the Mall Cop. What's funny to me is the ban is indefinite. They left their email address to get in touch. I suppose they are playing a power game where I come to them wondering what I need to do to get back on the forums. I can guess they don't want me to gig forum frogs or punk out big mouth pandas anymore. What a bunch of tourists.

Hey, this is Florida. I ain't no California corn flake who wants to work things out. If I crawl, it will be to get the raccoon and her babies out from under the utility shed. If you want to say something come on and do it.

Hey if I made that kind of beer money, I could stay buzzed all day and really have a time on the forums.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

They are playing games, of course Chip. Anonymous frightened people who feel big behind their masks. I'll bet they brag about it to each other. "I guess we showed those Florida and Georgia crackers how we deal with them out here on the west coast!" Can you imagine setting them down in the swamps for a few days of communing with nature? LOL!

It's sorta funny to be banned for insulting someone and then get insulted by the mods themselves! DOH!

Forget emailing them. They have no one who will converse with you with any respect, or with a real name for that matter. :p

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Sub domain? Did I do that? I might have. It is irreversible, right?

Amazon? I had a guy tell me he ordered some stuff. I should have at least one sale, and I have zero. Dang! It isn't wise to burn a common man. The Bible warns, "Lest he cry out to God against you in the middle of the night."


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yep, there was no choice whether to change over to sub-domains. All of them were eventually changed over even if the writers didn't want them changed.

It makes no difference if your hubs sell Amazon product if HP has their codes in effect at the time. I used to sell a good bit of products before the sub change. And it's difficult to tell whether your codes are in effect unless you check each and every one every few minutes. I suspect HP runs theirs at the peak traffic times of the day--perhaps 7:00-12:00 pm--while ours are featured in the wee hours of the morning. It's 40% of the time, not the earnings. Theoretically, they could make much more than we do on our 60% time share.

If they wanted to be really fair (yeah right!) they would simply take the first 24 minutes of the hour on all hubs and give us the last 36 minutes. But then, this would be easy to check and that simply would not do.

Last year I sold an $800 windmill and an RV A/C around $700. They weren't returned but I never got a dime. Sorta like the EBay system now. Not worth the time to deal with it to make HP money.

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

To your last post. Yeah, they can dish it out, but they can't handle it when you jerk them up by the shirt collar and slap 'em silly. They can't hang. It will serve them right when the Chinese claim California through the eminent domain that we gave them when Washington DC can't pay off the debt.

I thought I sold some water purifiers, too. Screw it. I can sell stuff right here. I was just checking it out.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Heck, California will fall off into the Pacific one of these days anyway! LOL! Funny enough, this hub has almost 800 views since I published it a couple of weeks ago. People know what is going on here and are reading these comments. I'm sure one of the brown noser's is keeping them informed. That's what brown noser's do! LOL!

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

We both know that. We aren't afraid to bait the bear.

What's the difference between a brown noser and a shit head?

Depth perception!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

HA! Never heard that one, Chip! And yes, not afraid of the bear at all. It's mostly stuffed and plush anyway. :)

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Don't tell the preacher I said that. I am already on the fecal roster.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yuk-A-Doo! I wondered if that was a typo or if you'd just had enough of the mods for the day. It may not be long before I write my "HubPages Expose" hub now. Uh huh....

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Figure it out. Up the line there, a sweet girl shared that she was a moderator for awhile. I said something like, "So, the moderators are hubbers. The Rat Finks!"

She comes back with something like, "How did you come to that conclusion?"

Hello? You are a hubber, and somehow you became a moderator. Pinch me so I know I'm not having a dream. This doesn't seem real.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

I think Penny was talking about another site she was a mod on Chip, not here. The mods here are hired especially for the job I believe. Their qualifications? LOL! I ain't even going there!!

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Doh! Sorry, Penny.

Do they get paid in Hubber points or what?


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Quiche and Kool-Aid, I'm sure. :p

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Happy to drink the Kool-Aid. Night Randy, I'm done. See ya soon.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Me too, Chip! About time to cop some ZZZZZs here in the swamps. Later on.

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey guys,

Ya know, I think HubPages should change its name to HumpPages.

Hump, hump, hump. There go Randy Godwin, WD Curry 111, and BLACKANDGOLDJACK, the most interesting men in the world. Banned in Boston, and everywhere else. And we didn't even get a Dos Equis as a parting gift.

I mean, who wouldn't click on a site called HumpPages. I can see all that revenue lost lately returning, both for the site and the authors.

And everybody goes home happy because they think they got screwed.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LOL! B&GJ---Someone wrote on the forums today that HP no longer wanted really good writers to publish here because it intimidated the newbies and lesser qualified folks. I'm beginning to believe it too! They said if some of the veterans controlled certain niches it made the other multitudes of newbies not want to sling out the articles in a very fast order which HP really wants.

I must admit, with all of the stupid bans being handed out lately to the veterans there is a certain pattern to the way things are going. And besides, this hub gets more traffic per day than most any of my others. People are concerned about the crazy goings-on here lately, especially how hard they are pushing and favoring those with only a very short time here. Check the Hub-of-the day often and you'll see what I mean. Favoritism is rife here!!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

See the above post! LOL!

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Check the topic "100,000 readers and growing" by Dave Matthews.

He gets a few congrats. Then it is discovered he is banned, totally. So some people take some shots on him. Now the last couple of posters are congratulating him again, apparently not realizing he is banned.

Unfortunately, I can not post on that thread because I am arbitrarily and capriciously banned from the forums. I certainly would like to congratulate Dave Matthews.

Congratulations, Dave Matthews, on being banned! Some of the most interesting men in the world have been banned. This hub and the comments are overwhelming evidence of that fact.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes, the same old BN's as usual taking up for HP's screwed up sense of justice. Censorship is alive and well here, B&GJ, as we are fully aware. It's a newbie site now and unless one tries to be "apprenticed"--another word for indoctrinated--into the system they will be banned from, not only the forums, but from any other program which gives them exposure on the site. Heil HubPages!! LOL!

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

HumpPages - That's serious SEO right there. I wonder what they think of that in Crisco, I mean Frisco.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/100919?page=4

I think this one got me banned. I told the dude to get off of his "lame ass soap box". It goes on to the next page, and I would't change a thing, even if you offered me the monitor job.

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/100919?page=4

I don't know, I have been teaching Cagsil not to start a fight with a stranger for 9 months, now. He can't hang. That overgrown raccoon, Recommend1 (with the cryptic line of bull on his profile that adds up to scam) tried me on my first day here and claimed no one needed to be polite to him can't hang either. Who knows, I just want to see what happens if I bring them up here.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

WD--Perhaps if HP were an adult writing site........LOL!

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Hey, I've seen others get away with it, but I sure didn't think I would. Someone has to flag you. Chalk it up to petty and trifling. I almost changed it to just plain soap box. Then I thought of you and this hub and said, "Ah, what the heck."

I'm not saying this is a lousy gig. It is just too much trouble for me to work it right from where I started. I don't really have the time or inclination to do it right. To get enough traffic with my lack of social networking you would need a couple of thousand hubs.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

No WD, no one HAS to flag you! The mods can simply antagonize anyone they please on the forums and do. The Elite will be allowed to say anything they please without fear of a ban as we've seen before.

Going on 900 views for this hub now, so it's not as if they are fooling anyone but the newbies. What else is new? LOL! I don't use social networking either except for the FB icon when I publish a new article and it's really not worth a cr*p for anything but a few views here and there. This place is a dead end as far as google is concerned anymore.

Because staff allowed so much junk and spam to be posted a while back Google has penalized everyone here. HP will continue to manipulate the traffic until even that doesn't work anymore. I'm just hanging around doing my fiction for now but soon I will kick this place in the asp. And it is a lousy gig now unless you're a newbie.

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

I had my goal, and I will not quit until I get to 50. I am too busy right now. I think back to when I first started writing here. I had done a big job and set some of the $ aside to explore writing possibilities and set up a website for my art. No website for the art yet, but i learned that I don't want to fool with this kind of program. I will be doing it in Adobe Muse and publishing with them as well. I don't know how it works with Google or Yahoo.

Since my I first heard of Google and Yahoo, I was thinking,"What's up with that? How can anyone take it seriously. It is like Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac. You are condemning yourself to absurdity by your ludicrous name."

As it is, the internet is inundated with ineffective advertising.

Well, I am glad I met you here . . . but then again . . . you might just be a baaaaaaad influence.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

I have to laugh at myself. When I first started here, I had trouble setting it up to get monetized. I was disappointed. I thought I was losing a hundred bucks a day and I only had 5 or 6 hubs. I thought HubPages was like an agency that sort of sold articles for you (from what I had been told). I thought they generated all of the traffic to your Hubs based on content. Like they read it and matched you with the customer. They just sit back and watch you do it.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

HubPages should establish a forum for banned hubbers. Obviously it would be more educational, entertaining, and inspirational than your current typical forum fare.

Maybe other miscreants like Jerry Sandusky and James Holmes could be persuaded to participate.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

That's what I like about Pittsburgh. You can close the steel mills, but you can't close their minds. They just keep working, cuz that's what they do. It would probably generate some interest. Maybe we should just start our own site.

Why not start our own search engine? We could call it Padoodle.


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Sawfishlagoon 4 years ago from Shallow, brackish water

Mr. Godwin - I am new here. Should I just forget trying my hand here?


lovemychris 4 years ago

Libel:

"anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents. "

I do believe I have a case for this. Just depends on how angry I really am....because I am.

Ever since I'm little, I hate bullies.

Allowing someone to defame me--while shutting me up for the same reason....this gets under my skin.

Big bullies run the world. Only if we let them.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

WD--Perhaps I am a bad influence. I tend to speak up when things are wrong, and there's plenty wrong on HP. Yes, I was fooled for a while, but like other writers found out, things aren't always what they seem.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

B&GJ--Notice the Hub-of-the day now is often by the a.pprenticeship BN's. HP is in full control mode now. No hope for free speech, fairness, or any other kind of independence on this site anymore. The lemmings are being trained to leap off of the cliff whenever they are told to and will do so with a smile on their faces.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Sawfishlagoon--You must decide for yourself what you want to do with your writing here. You will meet some really good people here, but not those working for HP or those who bow down to them. This used to be a good place to get your stuff out there, but not anymore. If you wish to merely write for your own enjoyment then it is okay, but if you wish to have free speech and expect fair dealing, this is not the place to be. Read the comments on this hub and you'll see what you can expect. These folks are all honest people, they have no reason to make up any of the things they are asserting here.

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

You have been a good influence on me and a great encouragement. I just like to have someone to blame.


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Sawfishlagoon 4 years ago from Shallow, brackish water

Mr. Godwin, there is more than one way to skin a snook.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

WD--HA! That's okay then, Chip. My wife has been blaming me for stuff for over 30 years, so I am indeed accustomed to it! LOL! Us crackers have to stick together to get ahead it seems.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Sawfishlagoon--WD would know more about skinning a snook than me, SFL! He is the resident snook expert on this site. :)

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Apprentices chosen for Hub-of-the-day 3 days in a row. What are the odds with so many thousands of writers on the site? 10,000 : 1? LOL!

How desperate can HP get to promote favoritism on this site? And look at the interviews lately. Complete newbies who've done nothing to deserve such promotion while those who have shown loyalty continue to be ignored by the powers-that-be. If this doesn't tell you what kind of people run this place, nothing will. I am ashamed for them!

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Sawfishlagoon 4 years ago from Shallow, brackish water

Perhaps they are better trained.


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910chris 4 years ago from North Carolina

Perhaps you are a troll for Hubpages?


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

@Sawfishlagoon - they are better trained to give Hubpages the kind of commercial dribble they like. Look at the people with scores of 100. They write about making Christmas ornaments and sell kits on Amazon capsules. I have checked you out, and you are off to a good start. If it is a paycheck you seek. Keep looking, or become an apprentice. They will probably tell you to delete your first hub.

For real, you need a couple of thousand hubs to do good. If you can stand to run around the world on your computer for 12 hours a day, more power to you.

If you are from the south, you will do better to collect beer and pop bottles to carry up north and collect the deposits.


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Sawfishlagoon 4 years ago from Shallow, brackish water

You are pretty cynical. I checked you out, too. Your stuff is good, but it is seems like it all over the place. Do you have ADD?


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Sawfishlagoon 4 years ago from Shallow, brackish water

@910chris

What's a troll?


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Sawfish - Probably. I am an artist and I do some freelance writing. I guess I'm not much of a Hubber.

You'll find out what a troll is soon enough.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey 910chris, how did you not get banned on the "Is there a possibility this was staged by the FBI?" thread you started when you called WD Curry 111 a "self-diluted fool" I wonder. Is your mother a HubPages mod?

Wow, I've been banned 4 times and the worst thing I ever posted was when I said, in referring to Randy Godwin and WD Curry 111, "Talk about putting lipstick on pigs." Actually, that was a compliment, but somebody objected to it. I was referring to their extraordinary success with women.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Because it was an accurate assessment.

I'm telling you, unless you are dealing with the staff's sock puppet, someone has to flag you. I ain't no stool pigeon, so I didn't drop the dime.

Besides, did I handle business, or what?


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

B&GJ - You don't know the half of it. Turn that pig over!


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Actually, WD, what I meant is that you're the pig. Pretty woman is wearing the lipstick, or was.

Well, the mysterious disappearance of one Dave Matthews continues to be contemplated. There is another forum thread going strong entitled “Why was Dave Matthews banned from HubPages?”

Again, I’ll suggest that there be a forum for banned hubbers. How else are all those people speculating about what happened going to rest easy if they don’t hear from Dave Matthew’s himself? Yeah, I’d like to hear from Joe Paterno too about why his statue was banned from the grounds of Penn State.

What we need here is a kangaroo court.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

B&GJ--Yes, a court which hops all over the place is what we have NOW! LOL! The Hub-of-the-day is going on 4 days in a row with an "a" as the choice. Obviously HP is still pushing their little AP program as what is desired here. They don't even bother to at least make it appear as if anyone not in the program will be considered for the choice anymore. DUH! A glimpse of things to come!

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey, here's an interesting post on that "Why Was Dave Matthews banned from HubPages?" by Disappearinghead: "I've noticed though in the last month a huge number of people are missing from this forum. Has HP done some kind of clear out?"

It's called ethnic cleansing. I can see why the Frisco Kids would ban some crackers like Randy Godwin and WD Curry 111, just because. But dang, just because I lived in Florida for a short time and spent a little time at Ft. Benning, and the Steelers have won more Super Bowls than the 49'ers, I'm on the hit list?

Due process isn't something you wake up in the morning to and see on the grass.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Half of that thread disappeared. Why don't you click on Sawfishlagoon and give him a follow.

I see more than the dew, it looks like a bull left some too.

I have concluded that neo-pagans are bigotted against Christians. They are definitely tailoring it to their liking. Playing favorites is an understatement. More like anyone outside of the coven who are not under their spell.

Randy and I have a different take on God. We can get along just fine. I have checked. God is cool with that.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Poof! The magic dragon. Somebody pissed off the Pope. Another one bites the dust.

Forum frog alert! Ribbit, ribbit. That last person, tussin, who posted on the Dave Matthews Band Banned thread sure knows a whole lot about hubs and HubPages without having any hubs. But then, I know a lot about sex.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

That was me. I dove to the bottom of the pond and dragged up the gator.

Hey if you do it by yourself, it still counts . . . just not as much.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Quick, Randy delete that post. I shouldn't have shown my hand. I ran out of time on the edit. The good one is coming up.

See, bro. That's the game theyplay. Leave it up!


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Sawfishlagoon was a sweetheart. You should read his posts. The lazy kooks in Crisco are too busy donking each other while Big Brother is out playing golf. It starts here:

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/101121?page=3

I am an old school Florida surfer. No California cornflake can run me off the peak. I'll throw them on the pile with the others.

Dat'l Do It! (Dattle pepper orignal . . . not Devil Drops)


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Joe Paterno? Go figure. He did what he could. It was the higher ups who dropped the ball. They are probably chicken hawks, too.

Cries for justice! Satisfied by malarchy, just like the Irish laundry lady who burned Pittsburg to the ground. it was old man Heinz. He knocked over a lantern on a bender, but they needed a scapegoat.

That's why the title of my book is "Prices Always Go Up Near the End of the World".


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Bubba Jones 4 years ago from Deep, deep South

Y'all are crazier than a flock of purple hoot owls!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Bubba! You sound like my kinda redneck cracker--is there any other kind? LOL! Do you fish? :P

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey Bubba, you look like a famous movie star. I'm talking about Ned Beatty in Deliverance.

So Bubba, let's find out right from the start how smart Bubba is.

What is your take on the "Poop overload shuts down San Francisco Bay Escalators" started by paradigmsearch that is on the front page of forum topics?


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Bubba Jones 4 years ago from Deep, deep South

Do I fish? Is a five pound robin fat?


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Jest checkin' Bubba! Sometimes ordinary west coasters try and pass themselves off as real people. :)

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Bubba Jones 4 years ago from Deep, deep South

Well, once a guy from San Francrisco came to visit my uncle to go hunting on his property. He thought he would play a joke on the city slicker. His friend had an old mule who was too old and sick to eat and he was wasting away. He loved that old mule cause he used it to plow in the day and he would talk to it all day long. He asked my uncle to shoot it for him, since he couldn't do it himself.

My uncle went by his friend's to let him know it was time. He left the slicker in the truck. When my uncle came back out, he pretended he was mad, "That ungrateful old goat. He owes me a hundred dollars and says I can wait till Christmas to get it."

Unc stepped on the gas drove out to the mule, slammed on the brakes, hollered, "I'll show that old cuss to mess with me!"

He jumped out and dropped the mule with one shot from his 30 ought six. Then he hears a rifle crack twice behind him. He turns around, and the slicker says, "That old man made you so mad, I shot two of his cows!"

We were eating steak for a year.


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Bubba Jones 4 years ago from Deep, deep South

Black and Gold Jack - The only Yankees I like are from Pittsburgh. They got real southern hospitality and good small mouth fishing.

You ain't gotta be smart to figure this out. No telling what will get stuck in poop in San Francisco!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Steak is good, Bubba! LOL! This hub just reached 1000 views, by the way.

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Bubba Jones 4 years ago from Deep, deep South

Yes sir, just singe mine and slap it on the plate. Things should be picking up even more shortly.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Always ready for some excitement on this place. Dullsville on the forums, but I suppose that's the way--uh huh, uh huh-- they like it.

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Bubba Jones 4 years ago from Deep, deep South

They might be heating up too. You just can't take yourself seriously. i got work to do now. It's fixing to storm and I got hay to roll.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Right! I take very little here seriously because 5 days in a row an "a"--I suppose it stands for amateur--has been selected as hub-of-the-day. Love how the other "a's" do as they're told and comment on them. LOL!

The jokes continue unabated! :p

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Bubba Jones 4 years ago from Deep, deep South

I meant . . . not TOO seriously. Some things are serious. In this case, I think it really is the "Sorcerers Apprentice". They are into all kinds of weird stuff these days. The can put the hoodoo on you and you will write like a fiend for days on end for 85 cents.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

In their case, $6 an article, Bub! I assume this is why the "a's" are being promoted so much as HP needs to earn this money back first. Another brilliant move in self-promotion for not only the contests, but for the AP program itself. Straight from Himmler guidebook! Ya wohl Herr Jones.

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Bubba Jones 4 years ago from Deep, deep South

Let's see . . . $6 an article at 1,000 words an article. What's that? I ran out of fingers and I don't want to take off my boots. I think I make more writing for the "Thrifty Nickel" want ads paper. Once i traded for hunting vest and came out way on top. It has little tiny pockets all over it with places for bullets and shotgun shells.

Well dang! If you wrote 50 articles a week, you could make as much as I do at Walmart part time. Instead of carrying fertilizer for folks, I could be spreading it on the internet. That reminds me . . . time to feed the chickens.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes I know. There will always be people who write for a pittance and this site is no exception. Taking some of your suggestions for my stuff, by the way.

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Bubba Jones 4 years ago from Deep, deep South

Huh? I didn't say nothing about your stuff. Is it any good? Let's spark one up!


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

That Bubba Jones guy is a nut. I think you should go give him a follow.

Read this first.

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/101192?page=2#post...


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

That Bubba Jones is a nut. How many people like that do I know?

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/101192?page=2#post...

Read this and give him a follow.


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udontnomi 4 years ago from intense introspection

Interesting, but perplexing. There is a syndrome in our culture. I call it the "Low Watt Power Trip". There is a spirit behind it. The spirit is called, "You can't get there from here, I'm In Your Way".

I do not know the situation. You may be in the wrong. If you are deluded, would you know it? Observe the dominate male raccoon (sometimes there are many if they are fed by hand). He is deluded into thinking that he is fierce. Then, he meets the Bobcat.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Sorry Bubba, got my comments mixed up. I'll send you some grits to make things up. :P

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Wow! Bubba got banned!! I am shocked, WD.

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Bubba shot the jukebox.

It was playing "I Left My Heart in San Francisco."


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yep, Bubba didn't fit in too well here I suppose, B&GJ! Too many grits?

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Yeah, Randy, too many grits. They rot your brain.

I had some grits on June 16 at a place called Cracker Barrel. Actually, I didn’t order grits. They came with a breakfast sampler. I took one bite and spit it out, so my brain was not severely damaged.

Hey WD, I see that chick A Troubled Man is back on the forums. Rumor has it she is going to be accepted into the apprenticeship program so she can write some hubs and not be branded a forum frog.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

B&GJ--The hell you say! Cracker Barrel? That place is an insult to crackers everywhere. It's where the Yankee's eat thinkin' they're getting real southern cooking! I would not eat a grit from there either.

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Reality Bytes 4 years ago from Freeman On The Land United States of America.

Randy, we always had civil discussions, and some fun. Remember when you posted that cool little trick concerning picking numbers and using the power of nines to guess their number. Do you have a hub on this trick. It was of the most interesting things I picked up from HP forums. I have looked for the thread but have been unable to find it.

Either way I wish you the best of luck Randy, you are one of the good guys, speak your mind, which I respect!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks for the comment, Reality Bytes. Yes, even civil discussions are at risk of getting a poster banned on the forums now. If i posted again after my ban is up they would simply ban me again. No secret there. LOL!

No, I don't have a hub on the 9 trick but I'll explain it here:

Have someone make up a random number of at least 3 digits say-123

Have them add up the digits as in 1+2+3=6

Have them subtract the total from the original 3 digit number as in

123 -6=117 Have them circle one of the numbers--in this case we'll choose the 7-- and then give you te remaining 2 which would be 11

To get the number they circled simply add the two numbers they gave you and get 1+1=2

Subtract this from 9 to get 7-- their number.

If the numbers they gave you add up to more than nine then simply use multiples of 9--such as 18, 27,36, etc, to subtract from. If the numbers they give you add up to 9, 18, 27, etc. the answer will be either 9 or 0.

I hope I made this clear enough but if not, feel free to ask for more clarity. Thanks for your time and input.

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udontnomi 4 years ago from intense introspection

A ubiquitous uncertainty.?


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Certainly!!

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

The's more weirdos around here, I swear. I came by to help BANDGJACK with the grits problem. First of all Cracker Barrel grits are runny. When you cook them right, they will be soft, thick and get slick on the bottom if you let them cool without touching them. You need to salt a and pepper them. Cheese doesn't hurt. You need to break up your over medium eggs, cut up the biscuit with "sawmill gravy" (red eye gravy), and mix them all together with the grits. Shake some Texas Pete or Dat'l Do It (original) to taste. Then pick up a piece of bacon to help scrape the mess onto your fork. Bite a chunk off with the fork full of the mess.

Now you are eating Southern style. Don't forget to swipe the plate clean with toast or biscuit. Bubba probably picks up the plate and licks it clean, too.

Whatever you do, don't do something disgusting like put ketchup on scrambled eggs . . . gross!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Now that's a fine instructional way to eat southern grits, WD. There is indeed an art to cooking them correctly and you--no doubt--are well acquainted with the process. My 90 year old mom knows everything there is to know about cooking good grits, as well as, any other type of southern cooking you may imagine.

Ever eat a grape pie, Chip? What about corncob jelly?

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Randy, you got me there. I lived in South Carolina for awhile, and they put the grits in an oven dish, stir in cheese and bake it until it gets crusty like a pizza and steamy below. You eat that with a full roast of oysters . On the side you have a bowl of collards. I bet those Yankees are wondering what that jar of tiny green peppers is all about. You shake the pepper vinegar out on the collards to achieve the ultimate balance of flavor. When the vinegar runs out, add more and it will still be good.

I have had all kinds of corn relish and stuff like that. I have never had corn cob jelly. Is that one of those terms like shaky puddin'?


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Of course, you gotta have pepper sauce for any type of greens, Gotta add a little grease to the collards too, and a hunk of cornbread goes without sayin'. Dang, gotta go now. We're grilling some dove breasts wrapped in bacon and dunked in Italian dressing for an ex-Iranian hostage tonight.

This dude loves it since he moved from DC to this area. He is retired from being the former president of the Harris Corporation and digs hangin' around with the rednecks. (me and my buds) LOL!

Nope, it is possible to make jelly from the corn sugar left in corn cobs, Chip. Watermelon rind jelly is another rarely heard of condiment.

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey now, here's an enlightening new hub (it is really difficult to find them these days):

http://hubpages.com/community/Mr-HubPageoff-Tear-D...

I particularly like Problem 7 (You treat writers like criminals), Problem 9 (Why is this site so humorless), and Problem 10 (You're too uptight).

Who would have thunk it.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey WD, I'm much more interested in the girls in South Carolina as opposed to the grits.

Spent a little time in Columbia myself. Go cocks go!


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udontnomi 4 years ago from intense introspection

I am new. I got a notice and came running right over to ascertain what may have expired in my absence. I am confused by your incessant babbling. Are you speaking in an esoteric code. I do understand one thing that you communicated. I saw that team on TV. They have a chicken for a mascot. Their concept of what will instill fear in the hearts of their rivals is odd. From what I have seen, the Cocks are always beating themselves. Steve Spurrier is too high strung, his approach to coaching the quarter back makes it hard.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

udontnomi,

I could care less about Steve Spurrier and his football team. I could also care less about the basketball team.

I did attend some basketball games at the University of South Carolina, and what I do care about is the South Carolina cheerleaders shaking it while screaming, "Go cocks go! Go cocks go!"


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udontnomi 4 years ago from intense introspection

BLACKANDGOLDJACK - Steve Spurrier is a genius. That is why the Gamecocks hired him. He knows how to get the Cocks up for a game. As far as the cheerleaders? If you get mixed up with those crazy girls, you will be running around like a Gamecock with your head cut off.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

I went to Coastal Carolina College. We were the Chanticleers. That's nothing more than an uppity, prissy Gamecock. I am with udontnome. Whose afraid of a chicken?

I guess it is all relative. I had a pretty feisty parakeet, once.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Check out the interview with Maddie Rudd. She tries to play down the reason mods don't address unfairness and favoritism here. Unsuccessfully, of course. Having anonymous moderators is just another way to control any negativity members may have toward the many veterans who have recently been banned for 3 months for speaking out against unfair practices here.

Read it and laugh if you can.

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

La la, blah, blah. It was the same with the SS, and I ain't talking snake sounds.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes it is an amateur move which fools no one but the favorites here. But they too will wake up eventually and realize they are merely numbers on a computer screen rather than real people who expect fairness and equal treatment. They always do.

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RednecksForObama 4 years ago from deep south

I am new here. I am working for a good cause. Will I be banned for trying to get President Obama to be our beloved president for four more years? Reserve Bank played him for a chump. I know those hardcore left wing radicals were disappointed that he did not usher in a new age movement and execute all of the people who do not go to their coffee shop.

President Obama is for the common man, not the freak of the week California cornflake from Crisco!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Who knows what reason you can be banned for here, ReneckForObama. They will use any reason if they don't like your viewpoint.

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RednecksForObama 4 years ago from deep south

I got lost trying to get back here. I did a Google search for HubPages. This is what I got. The Sign-in page was not there. Only this stuff.

My guess . . . better look quick. The weather could change in an instant.

http://www.google.com/webhp?rlz=1C1CHTV_enUS478US4...


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RednecksForObama 4 years ago from deep south

@Randy Godwin - I must recant. The search engine automatically changed HubPages to HubPages review. I searched just plain old HubPages. This is what I got,

Now, there used to be several pages of articles and blogs critical of HubPages on a Google search. Trust me. Find one now. Someone is getting an ego buzz from manipulating the mindless masses. I see you in there. I don't have my rose colored glasses on today.

Follow this to "Why does HubPages suck." Is my comment still there?

http://hubpages.com/community/The-Hubpages-Scam-Wh...


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RednecksForObama 4 years ago from deep south

Wow! I have been banned from the forums. Indefinitely. I can't think of anything that I said that (on a forum for a writers community) could have possibly fit the criteria.

Now, I did spek out here and on the Hub that some hack wrote about people who bitch about Hubpages.


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RednecksForObama 4 years ago from deep south

This is the review page. It has changed quite a bit from the first ime I saw it over a year ago.

/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=14&gs_id=1k&xhr=t&q=Hubpages+review&pf=p&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Hubpages+revie&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=b752d12a09


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RednecksForObama 4 years ago from deep south

I hate Quark!

Sorry, just search "Hubpages Review".

I must correct myself again. I remember, now. There was a lively exchange on a forum. Everyone was having fun until some panty waste started throwing flags around. It seemed like a good, stimulating exercise in wit and tact. Everything was within the parameters of good taste. I think every participant did a good job of "barnstorming" the issues above the broken spirit of the rules.

I flagged the moderator, checked "other", and typed in, "Bogus moderator, only 6 hubs in 2 years." I bet that's what did it.

Maybe the moderator was potty trained at gun point, or something. I don't know, but it would be real nice to get a real moderator with some experience in post secondary academia.

I think this one got your buddy a few days in the corner. I do't see him around much, lately.

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/101192?page=21


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

And so it goes, and so it goes.


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Aye the price went up, a 2.5 year veteran with a mega hub count ran aground in the forums and they banned him permanent from the whole site. I was surprised they went that far but I rarely play on the forums and when I do Randy you and I would be apposing, but I'm good with that, cuz we play well together on topics here. I still owe you some pictures of some smoke poles, I took some with an old black berry phone I bought for the camera part and if there is enough light it does ok, reckon I'll have to wait till the batteries are solared up in late day and turn on more lights cuz the details of the purdy one with brass trap doors in the stock for balls and patches didn't show up all that well.

As for WD I like ketchup on my scrambled eggs!

Peace, God Bless you Randy, LOL

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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

@WD "I am an old school Florida surfer. No California cornflake can run me off the peak. I'll throw them on the pile with the others."

Hows the bet on that? I'll bring my old school long board and take off my leg and give you a run on that and I've not surfed in 15 years LOL but then I ain't no california cornflake.......

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KMI Rebel Yell 4 years ago

50 Caliber - I carved a funshape fish out of a magnolia tree. I can out-shred you all. I caught air at Tres Palmas and came blasting out of the tube at the Light House. I found out why the make sandpaper out of beach sand whern I hit shore.

It took three mint juleps before the stinging quit.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Dusty - I guess I got carried away. That is a Florida tradition . . . talking trash. You know how it is, though. I was born on the crest of a wave and rocked in the cradle of the deep. I’m hard I is, I am I are, and when I spit, I spit tar. Don’t cross me, I’m a busy street.

Now you throw that old peg leg up on the sea oats next my fishing rod, and we’ll go out and get wet. You’ll need that long board, the waves suck here.

Settle down KMI Rebel Yell. Put some fresh aloe on that sand rash. It will scab up by morning. It will look a lot like scrambled eggs with ketchup all over them.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

HA! Everyone's talkin' trash here it seems! LOL! Dusty, I can just picture you surfin' on one leg like an ole blue heron perched up there! Yep, I learned to surf on the old long boards myself on Amelia Island back in the mid 60's. Ah--those were the days. :)

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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Aye, WD I'm a steam roller that digs those busy streets what don't move comes part of them busy streets, hit a VW Bug once squirted bug juice out both windows, Ha!

Randy Call for a roll off dumpster trash is piling up, might need a bob cat to load out this mess LMAO

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RednecksForObama 4 years ago from deep south

Excuse me folks. President Obama has got the stoke! Check out this steep right slide.http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/34371/origina...


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RednecksForObama 4 years ago from deep south

Careful Dusty. From what I hear, WD will run like chain lightning through your crab apple patch. We all know that crazy cuss down here. He painted signs from Biloxi to Barbados. You have to watch your women when he comes around. He will have her half drunk and taking her clothes off for a portrait before you know she's gone.


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udontnomi 4 years ago from intense introspection

Wow! Do you know WD? We used to get mushrooms from that southern fried lemon head back in the day, and I'm from New Jersey. He tore it up at the groins. His board was always a little bigger than most guys around here. So was the bulge in his baggies. He logged a lot of tube time up here.

Come to find out - he did my girl friend and sold the painting to that bar where Bruce Springsteen always used to play.


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Suzie Crumcakes 4 years ago from Fellsmere

Small world, isn't it. I know WD, too! He is always at the Fellsmere Frog Festival selling his art every year. He is kinda cute for an old guy. He said I have classic features. He painted my portrait this year, but I don't remember much and never saw the picture when he was done.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Floridians! Just a bit too far south to be intelligible! Eh Dusty! LOL!

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KMI Rebel Yell 4 years ago

If you want sophiticated refinement, you must come to Kentucky. The problem with Florida? Nuts roll downhill.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Kentuckians! Merely Floridians who couldn't roll far enough! :P

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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Poor little WD is taken a royal spankin' probably likes it, KMI I heard that thing about the nuts some where but can't figger it out.

Randy they are definitely below me but I'm buttin Mexico the country that's gonna re elect what's his name.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LOL, Dusty! If it hadn't been for the swamps I might have tumbled a bit further south myself. As it is, I'm mired in the muck and ain't movin' a peg. Could have been worse though, I could have ended up in San Fran Crisco. :(

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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

San Fran Crisco is so damn funny it hurts, after living in Ca for so long I never heard that and I can't figure out how I didn't think of it, I heard called it the Gay Bay I think worse part is my girls are gay and I don't cut them any slack about it but I don't run 'em off either, I reckon 'cuz they ain't doing anything I wouldn't do LOL Used to surf a Laguna that got called Fagoona after a few years, I'm cool they can have California, I think we should give the state to the Chinese and call it even and Florida if they want a tip, I like the swamps them gas balls are from me, I can let a silent fart where the bubble don't pop stick a match to it, and it floats around burning for years........


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Yeah, I was a little wild in my youth. I guess I was a fool. I'm settling down these days. I don't paint nudes anymore. I'm still limping from the last one. I didn't think the guy could hit a moving target with a 380.

I shouldn't complain about the moderators so much. They don't know any better. They haven't been around much. They miss a lot of humor and are not well versed in funky lingo or cryptic slang.

Forums are a waste of time, anyway. Why in the world would some poor fool go on there and say the exact same things, day after day, for months on end? If I were the moderator, I would give the deadbeat a warning like a boxing referee, "If you keep clinching in the corner and hitting below the belt, I'll disqualify you."

Some of these pseudo-intellectual, quasi-mensa types around here are a trip. You can knock them on their can with a one liner. Then they flag you for personal attack. Now, if they want to clean it up and get more professional, I can support that. They need to be more consistent. There are antagonistic personalities who post provocative comments and then throw the flag if they don't get the touche'.

I'm over it. It is like fishing in deep Georgia farm pond. It just gets too easy to catch big bass.

If some drive by quipper wants to bust a move, then it is fair to "stand my ground".

Here's the memo.

http://youtu.be/ZeNA4R3Xh9E


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

I agree with you guys. The mods haven't been out in the real world long it is obvious. They seem a bit too serious about this little site and a bit too smug too realize it. They'll learn better when they live a bit longer as we have.

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RednecksForObama 4 years ago from deep south

It's all good! I know President Obama can get through to them moderators. He will sit down to have a beer with them and drop them the skinny on how to deal with antagonistic weirdos.


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Aye that's the truth, but there are the guys like "Mark Knowells" I think his name is that fired on me accusing me of getting my rocks off getting atheists to perform the unforgivable sin of mocking the Holy Spirit, the dudes got a pick up sporting a little grey, well old enough to know what he's doing baiting for a fight, I don't go to the forums but once in a blue moon and that wasn't my point of the comment of just how certain he or others were on a "creator being non-existent" I looked and he trolls every religious forum spewing garbage at folks, and he remains probably right now up there doing his thing.

I got no time for that, I traffic forums that are hard line been there done that got the t shirt Veterans, and it's open to the public but they don't last long in most cases. I recommend the place as it has a disaster preparedness forum that all ya'all is fixing to need to know if bammy gets back in the big white crap house on the hill for 4 more destructive years and the dumb as a sack of foreskins congressmen keep setting it out in the little boat in my crapper with the tidy bowl man, things are gonna get ugly and from where I sit gonna be a big 72 hours of stupid killing stupid if the market falls after that the wise guys will prove formidable and stack 'em like cord wood for another week, then the cities will smell so good they'll start looking for retreats, and that's where I come in with my trusty 2 mile rifle building a road block of dead 4x4 trucks at the low end of the valley. Honestly I've lived through the fire and was a leg short of getting out scratched and bruised so I'm hoping for the lesser of two evils, Kinda like here, I like to have some fun and I definitely enjoyed picken on WD a bit, 'cuz I have grown quite fond of the feller, he's a bit more refined than us hill folk of the desert but he knows the score and if he had a mind he'd flag me and I'd be gone with the wind, I figure to have crossed the line here a few too many times getting caught red handed but not ashamed of what I said, I been thrown out of some ice pick and pocket shooter biker bars in my day, so no big loss, I got the email of the folks that spin my pin wheel so what's next? We gonna run this out to 3 or 400 hits? or start another, if so somebody pick a topic I'm in, might even try writin but I keep gettin these annoying red squiggles under words, what's up with that?


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KMI Rebel Yell 4 years ago

Ah 50 caliber - A man of action as well as words. Those red squiggles are easy to fix. Just right click on them and check off "add to dictionary".


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Ha! KMI I was thinkin this thing needed a lesson on American jibberish all words iz spelled eggzactly like they sound, no?LOL, yep your right just taught it 4 more.....


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Suzie Crumcakes 4 years ago from Fellsmere

Thaz good advice you just got. I do that all the times.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Going on 1300 views and almost 300 comments so far on this hub. If it gets too many comments I'll start another one. There's plenty here to bitch about, that's for sure!!

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RednecksForObama 4 years ago from deep south

1300 views? That's how many visits a day (per hub) you need to make some half way decent money on HubPages. If it's bitching you want, elect a black man for president twice in a row!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha! used to get 1600 per day but not now. At least not on my share of visits. I don't know how many HP gets on my articles, perhaps more than I do.

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Six G Eddie 4 years ago from wrong side of the tracks

The man won't cut you no slack, Jack. He don't want you to know that his clicks are going to some skank in India. If he owned up to it, you would know he is a fool. meanwhile, you're one.

Don't you know how it works? Hey, darling, you are a brilliant writer. Come into my office and we'll moderate some forums. Here hold this like this. It feels good to feel power of the wifi tower.


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Six G Eddie 4 years ago from wrong side of the tracks

It's time for an ofay heyday!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Six G Eddie--Sounds like you've been around, Eddie! We are indeed at the mercy of those who take advantage of the hidden aspects of this site. Moderators? They are merely frightened children with no names. Peter Pans, all of them! LOL!

Welcome to HP!!

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Who are you talking to. I don't see any Six G Eddie. Did you get bit by a Raccoon?


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Naw, by a rabid fox, WD! A not too sly fox at that! LOL!

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Suzie Crumcakes 4 years ago from Fellsmere

Six G Eddie is a dangerous man.

Once, he tore up the stage at the annual Fellsmere Frog Leg Festival because the Willie Nelson Tribute band didn't know any hardcore rap. It took eight cops to drag him off. He was back out in four days. My fiance says the city lawyers and the DEA need to keep him on the street to keep their cash flow going.

Maybe he got spammed. If he did, you can get him out on bail. I know all about that. I had to get my fiance out of Sharpes a few times. Make sure he doesn't violate the terms of release, or you will lose your money like me. My fiance is going to pay me back as soon as he gets back on his feet. It is hard to find work as a frame carpenter right now. he keeps sneaking off into the woods with five gallon buckets of water in each hand. Maybe he has a still like my Grandaddy did.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ah yes, the modern day "moonshiner." Plenty of them out here in the sticks these days. Grow it and they will come.....!

Yes, Eddie seems quite dangerous. But aren't we all.......

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Suzie Crumcakes 4 years ago from Fellsmere

I'm not like Yankee girls. I ain't afraid of snakes. I have a little Jack Russel that takes care of them all real quick!

I am going to make enough$ for me and my fiance' to live on. I am a writer on Hubpages, now. It is the most rewarding place to be published on the internet.

All I have to do is figure out this old crummy program. It doesn't work like a modern one.


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Ah nothing wrong with a still, mine is stainless steel all clean welded works better than Hawkeyes, I heard they were illegal, so when the mash is done I distill my drinking water in it just in case there are any law dogs peeking, the thumper thumps on water just like lightening....... pour some in a dead mans mouth and the gasp will restart his heart LOL

Randy let her go for pages two of comments as I have seen on several hubs of http://mckbirdbks.hubpages.com/hub/Emerald-Wells-C... check out #35,6 or 7 I believe there are two there that wrapped around the block like straight Americans at a Chic Filet or dancing American tourists in Meheco that drank the water to kill the fire of some good tamales, I laugh as I walk by telling everybody past the one waiting next to find and alley and let rip, cuz by the time you get there the walls will be painted by those who just cleared their cheeks dropping trou and then had to tear off their fruit of the looms to clean the toxic spill


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Dusty--Yes, there are still plenty of whiskey makers in this neck-O-the-woods. Plenty of free-willed folks still doing their thing as they always have and probably always will. Freedom's just another word for.......!

Yes, the comments will go on for a while here or until HP decides differently. They usually do.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Suzie--You do have a couple of good "points" there! :p

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Suzie Crumcakes 4 years ago from Fellsmere

50 Calibur - There is nothing on that page. It's gone now. Raccoons must have gotten into the wiring. I know what you mean, I had to leave my T-backs in the porta-potty.


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RednecksForObama 4 years ago from deep south

I wondered whose those were. I got them on now.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

That's just plain scary.


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

@ Suzy, it's there your having the problem I been having, I got told that this page was 404 from a direct link and then went to my rss feed list and it came right up. They are working on a beta program for hub hopping I found out from some selected to try it, and I bet that is where the problem lays, their changing more up to confound us again some more....... try it again later or just search it in the search bar

Emerald Wells Cafe or by the author mckbirdbks you'll get it.


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

I refreshed this page to add something to what I told Suzy but it stopped and I saw Dave Mathews mentioned and he is a friend of mine, don't know how he acted on the forums but he sent me a note to let me know he got shot off his horse and it was forever all portions of the Hub Pages, I asked him why and suggested possibly the forums? He didn't know and a day later he finally told me that he had let a troll light his hind end on fire and did something on the forums. I know Dave like I said he's a bro' and we have had some good conversations and I realize I'm on a hub of atheist root, or at least what I been told but hey, I'm like the creator, I'm good with free will as long as it's civil, and I think that's the key to this incarnation treat folks the way you want to be treated, heck it's been working for me for now on 59 or 60 years, I use that cuz I think that's probably when I stopped crapping my pant while setting on some body's knee, LOL giving them that warm friendly feeling that was true internal love unleashed on a bouncing knee ride and laughing while I crapped on them LMFAO, it may not be that funny to y'all butt I just had a visual on the whole thing going down on somebody's knee bouncing a 4 year old who mastered the art of the porcelain turd muncher so no diapers and wham apple sauce or some other mess like strained peas that end up restrained through shorts and trousers on some out of town visitor with 1 pair of clothes because they were going home that evening a 4 hour drive or so, I can't help it I'm twisted and sophomoric humor still tears me up and if I get a visual going I bust up like a nutjob when setting alone, blowing coffee out my nose at Ihop making people look for the nearest exit........I'm done for a minute any way


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

This is my favorite hub.

How do you nominate it for one of those HubFuggit awards or whatever you call it.


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Suzie Crumcakes 4 years ago from Fellsmere

Are you from Blitzburg? That's a drinking town with a football problem. I love Ben Roethlisberger! He played for Miami, you know. Once, when he was here at the Frog Leg Festival, he called me his little hurricane and told me it was time to blow. I slipped out of the restroom before he could get fresh with me, though. My Fiancé would cut him good if he knew what he tried.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha Dusty! I'm glad you have such a good sense of humor ad can enjoy yourself so easily. I'm much the same way with laughing at the real things of this world.

@BLACK&GOLDJACK--LOL! at nominating THIS hub for anything on HP. They would have a sh%t fit over this one. A HubFuggit Award? LOL!

@Suzie--You seem pretty smart for a girl! :p

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

And since I cannot give my input on the forums about the new "Hub Hopper," I'll give it here. It sux!!!! Too hard to use and too time consuming for many to use it is my opinion. And besides, I don't wish to give any impetus to the newbies being chosen for Hub-of-the-day as most are simply for selling stuff and not truly interesting to me.

And no creative writing is rated at this point either. Who wants to spend time on such a silly format? Now do you see why I get banned so often? Not a yes-man for one thing and certainly not afraid to get in my $.02 worth either.

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

I think it is closer to $.002 worth.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

True dat, Chip. Inflation is a booger! Not to mention my rep here now. :(

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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Dang got side tracked with my horse, Old John giving to his right at sweet feed time, A pointed piece of shale rock in the frog, out and full of balm now, dang looks like the pointed back of one of my burros for perimeter checks, gonna get my shorts packed in the groove, maybe two blankets? while john gets put in jail until he heals, bummer!


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Suzie Crumcakes 4 years ago from Fellsmere

50 Caliber - We know horses in Fellsmere. It was the last of the free range. I got a cutting pony when I was thirteen. I could back him up faster than a rattler could chase him. He sure could confuse a cow.

You don't need a vet or a farrier for a piece of shale in the frog. Just get it it out, clorox it, and slather on the bag balm.

It will be good as new in a week. That old horse will probably be glad to laze around, just like his daddy. We don't give them much sweet feed around here, there is plenty of good forage and it keeps them tough. They love some loquats or guavas when they come in. They think it's candy.


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Suzie Crumcakes, thank you for the interest, I am the farrier out here and your suggestions have been done and you are quite correct. As for the sweat feed it is a treat one that they deserve, the closest thing thing to sweet fr them here is gnawing the bark off Mesquite trees, and when the time is right and the farmers market is in I give them water melons to stomp and eat along with apples and one burro digs lemons the rest not so much,

Peace 50


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Suzie Crumcakes 4 years ago from Fellsmere

50 Caliber - Iam the farrier around here, too. I encourage you to give those swayback Arizona nags a good treat now and then. Keep it sharp and don't dig deep!

I hope you know, I'm teasing about your horses being broke down. We love to talk trash in Florida. it keeps the Yankees half way honest.

Did you know the crazy fools put ketchup on their eggs. That's grody!

They got mixed up looking for the Texas Pete.


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

I dig Ketchup on my eggs scrambled x6 with 1/2 pound of diced ham and plenty of hot black cracked pepper corns and the only yankees here are snowbirds running like little girls from the cold. John is a little feller he only weighs 1800 pounds,1/2 original full size real quarter horse and daddy was a Percheron he pulls stuck jeeps out of the sand for fun, eats nails for breakfast and craps his own shoes. LOL he'll be alright in 5 or 6 days. :)


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Haven't rode a horse in 30 years or so. My butt is too skinny, even with a saddle. LOL!

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey Suzie Crumcakes,

Big Ben is married now and he don't do no southern ho no mo.

Yeah, he did play for Miami. Not with the Miami with all the convicts though.


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Lavoris Palmolive 4 years ago from O Town

Ham and eggs sounds good, but you can keep your ketchup. Texas Pete? Try Crystal, darling. It's real Loisianna hot sauce. Texas Pete is made in North Carolina. I got to have my grits.

@50 Caliber, I hope you wipe those shoes off real good before you put them on. I am working on a system where I eat grits and crap out gold. So far, so good, if you get my drift. I bet those snowbunnies really run like a girl when they back into a cholla! I can hear the nurse in the emegency room, "Hold still Mr. White, there's only about fifty or sixty to go."


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Crystal is good on raw oysters too, especially those from Apalachicola! The best around these parts!

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Lavoris Palmolive 4 years ago from O Town

Oysters? Dat'l Do It original. The Oysters in Winyah bay are better, and there isn't as much commercial pressure. You can have some Gullah cooking up that way too.


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Aye, Lavoris, grits is good four the soul, a lot disappear around here butt they come back far from gold. Louisiana luke warm sauce is for 3 year old little girls, us 3 year old boys use Dave's Insanity Sauce pure old Roy D Bygod Mercer habinero oil 1 drip in a quart of mater juice makes warm Bloody Mary's bite if you want the string and all about 6 drips in a glass of mater juice with my distilled high test will leaving you wishing you chased it with a half gallon of ice cream, sorta gives a feller something to scream about after his first cup of coffee while sittin there on the porcelain thrown screaming "come on Ice cream" a feller don't have to wonder if he's got hair on his bung, it was burnt down and the roots followed by suicide landing in the Tidy Bowl mans boat burning a hole through it and sinking the whole mess, give meaning to "courtesy flush".

Now the Cholla Cactus next to running naked through a cat claw bush, that's the meanest thing around aka jumping cactus, I ran a 125 Montgomery Wards scooter mo cycle through one of them buggers, reckon at about 13, picture them tortilla tongs for flippen or benden taco shells in the hot oil, and 2 hours of pulling off the turd shaped thorn bearers and then pliers for the individual sticker mabobs that had a little tiny hook at the end, now God was mighty pissed off at Eve and that plant was an after thought.


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Lavoris Palmolive 4 years ago from O Town

I'm talking flavor for the Crystal. We're talking eggs here. If you want some hot, it's not on the market. My Memaw makes her own Geechie bung burning sauce. We just call it napalm. It makes Jamaican Hellfire look like a Popsicle, which is what I recommend to cool your poop chute.


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Randy, I don't ride ponies I go draft breeds I like to get 'em at about 5 years old and then there is certain criteria that makes 'em or breaks em as a buyer. I need to pore a quart of water on their back and it has to puddle up, makin for a wide flat back, there is more butt for the sake of skinny butts or fellers like me that has the "noassatall" disease where when we fart our britches hit the floor or our new style elastic suspenders let them shoot down 5 inches or so then get yanked back up. Any way I ride bare back on my horses and just a halter and lead rope and use my right foot to talk to them and a bit different on the left 'cuz there ain't no foot, and my stump has a wingnut silver cuttin spur made out of the other one that matches my right one, A blanket and getting on any butt that can balance them selves and go with the flow from a walk to 30 mile and hour and a couple have been faster, if you can keep your butt dry from the froth that rolls off a horse you can enjoy some great rides bare back, if I use a saddle it's a hard slick seat saddle that most who ride choose a padded saddle that has a 1/4 inch pad diamond stitching and is sueded leather, and, levis stick to suede and ass slides in levis. 8 hours later you got blood dripping through your pants. I've found a 18 inch slick shiny saddle that everything slides on it, best money ever spent some 25 years back, before that I bought womens long lag panty girdles made out of nylon and the slick was in my britches, but the boys was all bunched up down there and it weren't to bad, better than a blood hind end. If I load up and trailer my horse and a spare all the way to Shawnee National Park to ride for 2 weeks, I generally ride at least 8 hours a day and I doubt I've seen half of what there is to see and I've rode my late Belgian horse named waffle down to the bottom and back out of the grande crack in the ground here up north, now day Old Waffle is in my grave yard right next to the hole reserved for me and there's about 10 or so good dogs there as well, it is a family grave yard registered with the county and my work is drawn up to throw me in there too, the stone is set and blasted just needs the final date blasted, I think it's cool getting approved to have your own grave yard, I know they are common in the South as I've rode horses into thicket over grown there and found old head stones from the 1800s and kicking about in the saw briars turns times there are 20 or more and absolutely no record in the court house as to who and when the place was there or if it was a church yard or private yard.??????


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Lavoris Palmolive 4 years ago from O Town

I have my own graveyard. Look at this gut! It's the chicken graveyard. Losses are mourned daily.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

I admire your ability to ride so much, Dusty. But with the area you have to explore it must be something wonderful. We have our own family cemetery too. I featured it in a hub called "Rosin In The Blood" about my famous fiddling relatives on my mom's side of the family. One played daily on the radio in Texas and won the national fiddling contest in Nashville back in the forties.

My great grandfather--a Civil War veteran--was the first to be buried there and gave the land for the graveyard. A wonderfully peaceful and shady spot out in the countryside on a ridge. I think I'll like it there someday. Not too soon though, I hope. :)

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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

HaHaHa, Ms. Thomas looks like the hog that escaped slaughter a 300 pound face. 4089 posts in 15 months 18 a day if you figure 7 days a week LOL


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KMI Rebel Yell 4 years ago

The classic of all classics! Going down as I speak.

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/101921?page=2#post...


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

You guys! I just can't leave you alone long before you get into trouble. I teach y'all everything I know and you still don't know nuthin'. LOL!

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KMI Rebel Yell 4 years ago

Check it out before you jump to conclusions. This is a scam.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Just kiddin' KMI. I saw the thread.

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Bedbugabscond 4 years ago from United States

Randy, I am not a scammer, If I provide you proof would you back me up that I am trying to help people keep from having their content stolen?


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KMI Rebel Yell 4 years ago

Give it a rest. You are busted.


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KMI Rebel Yell 4 years ago

Give it a rest. You are busted. I tried to tell yo. Chill out, Google and the FBI will handle it.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Bedbugabscond--I am not KMI Rebel Yell. He posts here but I have no control over what he thinks may be going on. He did not write this hub, I did. Sorry, I have no dog in this hunt.

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Bedbugabscond 4 years ago from United States

Oh, alright. I just hate that he is taking a truly good hearted action and making me the bad guy. I have always wanted to believe in good in the world. It is hard too do that when you do something to help other people and you are made to look like a bad guy for it.

No matter what KMI thinks, I will still believe in good, and try to do good.

I can admit I was wrong in thinking you and he were the same. I am sorry for that. I just hope his accusations do not prevent people from learning that they need to file a DMCA.


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KMI Rebel Yell 4 years ago

Public BEWARE do not follow the link that was posted on the forum!


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Bedbugabscond 4 years ago from United States

KMI, you are hurting people by telling them not to find their own stolen content. Why would you hurt other people like that? Is it because you have no faith in other people?


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Believe me, BBA, This is my only account here, but don't feel like the Lone Ranger. I'm banned from the forums for trying to help writers here understand what is going on. The old saying "No good deed goes unpunished" comes to mind about now. The reason for this hub, as a matter of fact.

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Bedbugabscond 4 years ago from United States

Maybe that is my downfall. Perhaps I am the one who should give up having faith and believing in others. It just makes me so sad that you can not even help others anymore without being punished for it. Maybe you should write a hub about how to cope with the old saying "No good deed goes unpunished". Maybe you could help me learn to stop trying to help others, and stop feeling so bad about people like KMI who have lost all faith. Why is it that every day I find myself thinking, "What is the world coming to?".


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KMI Rebel Yell 4 years ago

Let's break down the name. Bed bug (pest) abscond (run off with your clicks)!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

BBA--No, you cannot stop trying to help others and still have respect for yourself, no matter how many times you get doubted. It goes with the territory. I didn't say it is easy though.

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KMI Rebel Yell 4 years ago

What are you doing here then, bed bug? Absconding!

"Look out Hubbers! You are being ripped off!"

Oh really? No joke!

What's up? A post dissappeared. Maybe it will come back later. I hate Quark.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

Why do I always miss the fun.? That KMI is a one man wrecking crew. I think he needs to be "Baker Acted".

It is real sweet of you to clam the lady's fears, though. You are a real Southern gentleman Randy. I am proud to know you.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks, Chip. I'm sure you'd do the same! :p

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Lemuel Martin 4 years ago from Orlando, Florida

Did you know that HubPages is not an American effort? If you get your computers checked by techs from NASA, you will find that you are being robbed of your Amazon and Ebay sales, and most of your traffic.

My job is done. Nice knowing ya'll. Take it easy.

Move your work. This outfit is going down.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Nothing surprises me here anymore, Lemuel! Thieves run rampant on the net these days.

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diyomarpandan 4 years ago

Aw, so this is why I couldn't see you in forums. I miss the very cute snake at the end of each of your post. I just discovered that WD Curry has been banned from Hubpages. I'm still trying to know what's been happening.


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Suzie Crumcakes 4 years ago from Fellsmere

Don't worry about WD. He can take care of himself.

HubPages is a suckers bet, they can kiss my booty!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@diyomarpandan--Anyone who doesn't kiss up to HP staff and mods are being banned from the forums, diyo. This site is going down in a hurry as far as honesty and fairness is concerned. To bad, it used to be a good place to write. Staff is a joke these days. Many are banned for at least 3 months unless they fall in line. Sad!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Suzie--Yep, WD is a big boy and knows what he's doing. I hope he still has my email address as HP has removed my contact info from my profile. What cretins they are these days. I look for HP to slowly deteriorate as have many sites which have taken the same tact with its writers.

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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Randy surprised the lights are still on in here, I got your address so I can fill the WD in if need be. No worries just pass the grits........

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LeanMan 4 years ago from At the Gemba

No wonder you have not been in the forums... I am trying to stay away from too much controversy as I still need my income from HP.. That being said I have had my own share of problems with another account banned..

The account was a spin off niche account with hubs that were originally published on this account (without problems)

When I published on the new account they got flagged as copies even though I had removed the originals from Google. So I went through weeks of moderation and they made me change all sorts of stuff before finally letting everything be published - so everything was reviewed and OK'd by the moderators..

The account started to make sales and do OK.. shut down! They unpublished the entire account without a single warning.

I emailed a complaint and asked for clarification.. posted a forum thread to ask how they can un-publish an account they had passed by moderators review a few months earlier - guess what the result was??

Yes, you guessed it - the account was permanently banned! No explanation as to what the problems were or anything! Just banned


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks Dusty, don't know how long they will allow me to remain active here either. They sure are trying hard to indoctrinate the newbies into their little "mutual admiration society" these days. I suppose they are getting ready to make some drastic changes of some sort here and need all of the rookies to back them up as well as getting rid of any dissent from the veterans.

And like we need Simone and Paul E to go to a convention to give their silly advice on how to run a content site. I'd think they'd need to be successful in something first, but I suppose that isn't important anymore. Keep in touch, Dusty!

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Suzie Crumcakes 4 years ago from Fellsmere

You can't trust California cornflakes from Crisco, or Red China.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Lean Man. Yes, not much makes sense here anymore and like you, others are afraid they are going to lose any income they've worked hard for unless they go along with the mods and staff. Lack of clarity in communication between staff and writer has become a serious problem here.

For some reason they don't feel obligated to reassure their writers they are trying to do the right thing here anymore. I'd think 40% of a writers earnings would be enough to at least converse with them personally instead of using an anonymous email to give them the bad news. I'm sad this place has fallen so low in this aspect. The beginning of the end for many content sites when they start abusing their writers in such a manner. Too bad for a once enjoyable place to write. I'm afraid it will only get worse. Good talking to you again, LeanMan!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Suzie--You cannot trust them at all. Something in the water out there which makes them feel empowered to look down on everyone else. They are so funny because they believe they are superior in some manner. Silly is a better description for them.

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SomewayOuttaHere 4 years ago from TheGreatGigInTheSky

there you are...i wondered what happened...and WD too!...wow! too bad!...i haven't been as active on the forums as i used to be so definitely noticed the fun had disappeared!....i miss Cags' messages too!...what's the world coming to....it's ending!!!!! Dec. 21 is just around the corner...all the signs are there

...thanks for the laughs...this hub has really taken off!

and it all started with the snake disappearing!....


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Randy, something in the water? floating condoms in the bay? LMAO,

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Jerami 4 years ago from Houston tx

This is the first I've heard of any of this. Don't get into any of the polotics here or anywhere else. Don't even get on here much any more. Just want to say ....Sorry to see YA go. have enjoyed bumping heads with ya. tickles my brain and put a smile on my face .... or something like that.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

SomewayOuttaHere--Yep, WD gone now and I don't know if Cags has been banned from the forums again or not. I've noticed he is still commenting on hubs but no forum posts are shown for awhile now.

This place reminds me so much of Helium right before it took a big dive to obscurity. A mood of silliness now pervades HP, similar to high school shenanigans exhibited by the self appointed "in crowd" we all remember from those learning years. It makes me sick as I tried to warn folks about the "special tags and labels" used to alienate members from each other. Not many members understood where this would lead, but some have found out. More's the pity!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@50 Caliber--I'd bet on it, Dusty! LOL! Whippersnappers don't have a clue what they are doing or what the results will be. Silliness abounds! :)

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks Jerami! Yes, the forums suck now anyway since the anonymous moderators can ban people at will. They are obviously trying to quell any dissent by the veterans concerning the many disasters their poor decisions have caused the site. And they want people to vote to send these same members of staff to speak at a convention when things are in such a mess. LOLOLOLOLOL! Get real!!

Good to see you though, Jerami!

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Barnsey 4 years ago from Happy Hunting Grounds

So glad I found your hub here. I was led here by the apparent loss of WD on my list of followers. I was actually going to ask him if I hurt his feelings or something only to find he has gone from hubpages! And Golden Bird too? Now you? Who else? S'funny to me because a couple weeks ago I asked the question have you evr had the feeling Hubpages was trying to get rid of you? Now I know for sure i am not alone in that regard! My problem was with a hub that turned into a huge issue and ended up getting banned altogether only because, it was clear to me, the moderator had no clue about what I was writing about. I give out stats to D&D creatures and such that are epic and difficult to create, the line after line of stats must have looked like a can of spaghetti to them because they simply decided, after I had complied night after night and fixed their issues with the hub, to ban it altogether. This tells me to forget making anymore D&D stat hubs! They no comprehend, eh? WTF? And now this? I am a big fan of some of the most controversial hubbers there are, to lose them will be to lose me as well, and I imagine many others will follow.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Barnsey! Thanks so much for stopping by to air your grievances along with the rest of us who have been mistreated on this quickly deteriorating site. Let's face it, with the folks running things now there is no hope of anything productive happening here anytime soon.

Perhaps if we get a group of folks to attend the SXSW conference to heckle Simone and Paul E they might see how it feels to be treated as we have. I think it would be very enlightening for them personally as well as fun for those of us who have been selected to be the object of their injustice. The drinks will be on me!! LOL! Practice your hoots and hisses. I'm already very experienced in the hissing part! :) What goes around.....

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Let's face it, Randy. HubPages don't need you and me and WD and any other authors who have posted here who won't drink the Flavor Aid.

HP has all the new authors they want like madalynwait who can do 26 hubs in the last 5 hours like this:

http://hubpages.com/autos/Insurance0016...


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Will Apse 4 years ago

This is certainly a great place for the naughty schoolboys and girls to get together. You should start your own Chan.

I hope you aren't smoking in here, by the way.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

BLACKANDGOLDJACK--You are correct about HP not needing us to mess up their little Flavor Aid party, B&GJ. And allowing such authors as you mentioned is the reason the site has taken so many hits from Google recently. This one, however, seems to be staff material. LOL!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Will! Yes, the "naughty" children have free speech here so far. I'm sure staff will figure a way to stop such unacceptable behavior eventually though. Smoking? Only if we want to. :)

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Suzie Crumcakes 4 years ago from Fellsmere

@Will Apse - You are what we call a dirt dauber around here. You don't have anything of value to contribute, and you are looking for someone to sting. You have no chops as a writer. You are an annoying insect, and nothing more.

You spend 24/7 on the forums dribbleing bile. Get a life you sorry loser. Kiss my grits while your at it, limp dick . . . you definitely represent the status quo for quality of content on the forums, comrade.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey, all of madalynwaitman's hubs are gone, but he/she isn't banned. I only got through a few of the 26 before I started barfing. What do I know, but it seems to me that total crap hubs like that do far more damage to this site than somebody who makes an "unacceptable" (and who knows what that means) post in the forums.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Sorry to see you get banned, Suzy! Yep, Will is a dirt dauber, no doubt. He knows it though. LOL!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

BLACKANDGOLDJACK--Ha! And now after allowing so much crap to be published here HP wants us to use the ridiculous new "Hub Hopper" to try and clean up the mess for them. Free of charge, of course! LOL!

I advise everyone to simply ignore the Hopper and flag the "Latest Hubs" instead. Having writers who do not have the ability to produce quality articles themselves critique others work is about as stupid an idea as it gets. I wonder what genius came up with this idea? It has never worked well for other sites and will only cause trouble here with junk rated above the better written hubs.

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Dorsi 4 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

So sorry to hear this Randy. That's kinda scary - getting banned for calling someone an anonymous windbag!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hello Dorsi! Good to talk to you again. I think you're bright enough to realize this was merely an excuse to ban me again. They simply ran out of excuses which made any sense at all and apparently do not care if the bans are believable anymore. There are many more of us banned members than you might think at this time.

I believe they've banned the most outspoken writers here because of all the new changes and do not wish anyone to ask hard questions. I have absolutely no respect for HP staff or mods anymore. After all, they obviously feel the same way about many of us banned writers.

Of course, they won't get away Scott free with it. "Time wounds all heels." LOL!

Thanks for stopping by. :)

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John Holden 4 years ago

I've still no idea why I was banned the last time. About the only reason I could come up with was for using English English rather than American English!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LOL! John! I suspect I was banned so many times FOR using American English. :) No really, they can choose anything they wish as a reason for banning a member from the forums or the site itself. It's in their TOS that they do not have to guarantee fairness to the members. No kidding!

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey Randy, don't miss the hub by HorseLover82 entitled "Closet Bi Teen Chat" you can find here:

http://hubpages.com/relationships/Closet-Bi-Teen-C...

They just keep getting better and better.

How do we refer a hub to Team HubPages for consideration for an award?


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CMHypno 4 years ago from Other Side of the Sun

Hey Randy, Suzie Crumcakes has been banned from HP now? What's the deal, was she a sock or something? If not, can you now get banned just for accurately describing Will Apse? If so we might as well all pack up our trunks and say goodbye to the circus lol!

Just a thought (been reading too many conspiracy theories!) do you think perhaps this hub hasn't been pulled so they can keep tabs on who the perceived trouble makers are? The hubbers who have agreed with you and added their own arguments seem to be being picked off one by one?


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@BLACKANDGOLDJACK--Ha! Awards are only considered by staff if you are a kiss-up, B&GJ. You know that by now. LOL! HP is completely predictable at this point. Human feelings are not really necessary in such a business. The American way, no?

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Cynthia! Let's just say Suzie wasn't completely forthcoming and leave it at that. LOL! But really, describing Will using correct terminology is always risking a ban here. LOL!

Sure, HP is not above using this hub or any forum post to have their way on this site. I get a kick out of how "goody goody" they try and appear to the newbies lately. They are just too wonderful for words. At least, ones I can use at any rate. :) Good to hear from you.

Still getting quite a few hits on this hub strangely enough. It let's me know others are concerned about the goings-on here these days. But the truth's the truth, no matter who hates it. Everyone on this hub can't be wrong, I believe this is obvious to a lot of folks.

I suppose Izzy has given up on the one year Google penalty being ended as she was hoping for. It's come and gone with no difference in my G traffic. I hate it for all three of us.

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PaulGoodman67 4 years ago from Florida USA

I love the truth, Randy. But Suzie Crumcakes was an obvious fake. :-)


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Obvious fake for sure, PaulGoodman67.

I did phone sex with Suzie about a week ago and she was obviously faking it. She was screaming way too loud for it to be real. "Sooey! Sooey!" was what it sounded like she was yelling, but with that southern drawl I couldn't tell for sure.


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CMHypno 4 years ago from Other Side of the Sun

Hi Randy, Izzy had no joy with the one year anniversary of our big slap and neither did I. She has her hands full with other things going on at the moment, but she is still around sometimes and her 'Sharkfacts' subdomain seems to be holding up pretty well.

I gave it a good shot, but might as well start pulling my hubs and putting them somewhere else, as my subdomain seems to now be officially moribund. As for all this waiting with bated breath for the big G's latest announcement or alogorithm change - sooo boring!! I want to write, not worship at the Google god's shrine lol! Good luck to all the people who want to be told what they can write and how they can write it by a search engine, but it's hardly creative. Unfortunately, the need to earn money squeezes people where it hurts every time, and big corporations know it - the only way to fight it is refuse to play (cheerleading costumes have never suited me and are so un-English lol!)


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Eaglekiwi 4 years ago from -Oceania

Hi my friend.

As usual I arrive back to HP and many things have changed around. I guess that's what happens when you stay away from 'home' too long, lol

I ducked into the forum and slid into the same ole same ole religious topics. Sighs was nice for 20 mins and company til Id finished my coffee and out the door to annoy some real people lol.

Nobody misses ordinary ,"goes with the flow" people ,but people with personality or courage will always be missed ,because they challenge the status quo

I miss your personality and kindness my friend BUT Hubpages and its readers have been blessed (shh..) lol to have had your good manners, courtesy,sense of humor and helpfulness for so long. To me and many other hubbers your posts often welcomed and helped ease the rookies. Not a snake lover myself , I learned quickly the snake was the sane one, the pit on other hand is the 'unknown force'

Elite , Extra Elite...? Oh now I know why either of those words sounded strange to me . Here in NZ its a name for a range of Condoms!

Well fancy that.

To Your Best Life Randy~xoxo Ekiwi


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@CMHyno--Yes, this seems to be the way HP is these days, Cynthia. So similar to the other sites I've written for over the years in that they slowly start controlling the way those who furnish their content speak out and the way they are treated. This was why I detested the "Elite" program when it was first introduced. The beginning of the end in my opinion.

The Apprenticeship Program is another facet of the site which only mires the entrants into a position of not rocking the boat by getting paid for their hubs instead of them earning money by their mere content. I dread the future for many of these folks who are now mentored by staff with very little business of doing so.

Thanks for being a friend here, you and Izzy both, I respect and admire both of you guys along with many more writers I've met here. Thanks too for your input about this place now. The truth does indeed hurt folks. We know that for sure. :)

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Eaglekiwi! Glad to hear from some of my oldest HP friends.(not age wise, of course LOL) those who I've had the pleasure of conversing with on all sorts of topics and discussions on the forums when they were worth using. Now they are controlled very carefully by faceless employees who wouldn't know an interesting subject if it bit them on the asp.

The site has degraded into a mere article mill with such boring content it makes me ill to check out the new hubs written by the "mentees". Like you, I speak my mind and honor truth above everything else when dealing with other writers here. Apparently this is no longer desirable from HP's standpoint. More's the pity for the site's reputation. It isn't what it once was as we now know.

Thanks for your comments here, EK. I still respect some of the writers here, if not the site itself. Good luck with your future life.:)

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey Randy,

I actually found a new hub that struck my fancy. It's entitled "How to Insult People Without Them Realizing It" by Missy Gear:

http://hubpages.com/entertainment/How-to-Insult-Pe...

So many mollycoddles, fibbertigibbits, and jackdaws, so little time.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Already aware of these insults, B&GJ! Besides, if I go the the trouble of insulting someone I'd rather they knew it. LOL! But yes, a good hub for those who'd rather remain tactful. :)

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Bubba Jones Jr 4 years ago

Poor Suzy Crumcakes is inconsolable. She had so hoped to launch her writing career on Hubpages. She was going all out to win a Hubbie, or at least some accolades. She was going to turn in JS Matthews for selling booze. She was lining up a series of hubs about pancakes, biscuits, and corn bread. Shewas going to sell maple syrup and Alaga, Karo, and Crisco on Amazon capsules.

BLACKANDGOLDJACK is right! Careful what you say. When Big Brother gets back from playing golf the monitor will tattle on you. I have to go now, I am working on a hub about how to clean stainless steel pots. There is nothing worse than burnt on chittlins'. CLR won't budge them. You got have . . . never mind, you'll have to read the hub to get the skinny on burnt fat.


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Bubba Jones Jr 4 years ago

My bad. I said JS Matthews was selling booze. Suzy Crumcakes just isn't the brightest crayon in the box. She said all Hubbers look alike to her, especially since the pictures are so small.

It was this dude who is the Hubbie bootlegger. He is a schmoozer as well as a boozer.

http://hubpages.com/food/The-best-bourbon-whiskey-...

What do you want from a Brit. H'es got corn liquor in a brandy snifter. What a dweeb. Forget that swill he's got on there. Old Grand Dad 100 proof is what real hillbillies drink.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Bubba! Yep, Paul is "something." LOL! Yep, poor Suzie. She made the mistake of thinking she was dealing with all good southern folk. We all have done that here and learn lots from our experience in most cases.

It takes good nerves to deal with those without proper upbringing on HP. You know the ones I'm referencing, I'm sure. :)

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Eaglekiwi 4 years ago from -Oceania

Susiecookiefake has more than one ID I am sure - how do I know this ?

Because they use the same vocab..lol and she be a he ,me thinks.

Then again here on Middle Earth I walk around upside ,what would I know -lol

The annoying and childish thing is sock puppets and multi accounts wouldnt be necessary if people were free to speak their minds in the first place!

Sometimes the good ole days were not that good lol ,but with regard to HP it is definitely the exception.

Dammit many of my hubs have been deemed substandard. Well I think after I pick myself up from the floor ,I might as well play around with a free website of my own....

Has Pearldiver left HP too?...hope he left some fresh shellfish for us to dine on, hes so close to the best fish in the world (down under at least)..AND wheres Sunforged and all those tech savy hubbers gone too now?

Habee?..man alive , where is everyone ,I really am old ,nahh..old just means experienced (insert smilie)


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes Ekiwi, it's bad when unfair censorship ruins formerly interesting forums. Writers need a place they can exchange ideas about all sorts of subjects without fear of being unfairly banned because they don't agree with the powers-that-be. I could understand their strong arm tactics better if they took a smaller cut of the earnings but at 40%--or perhaps much more as we have no way of knowing for sure--they seem to assume too much authority in our conversations and what we mean in them.

So now we have forums so boring they are practically useless except for butt-kissin' and fanny pattin' by the usual suspects. The usual HOTD by one of the "a's" is probably an assignment in the AP program already paid for by the mentors. Those poor deluded souls.

I don't know about Pearldiver or Cags either for that matter. Probably banned as there are lots of us veterans "conincidentally" banned during this period of "New changes" on the site. Many formerly outspoken members at that.

Care to join our group of HP hecklers at the SXSW event in Texas where Paul and Simone are hoping to speak? We get to exercise a bit of censorship of our own at this one. What goes around........LOL!

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Paul Goodman--I can't respond to your criticisms on the forums since I am now banned from them, Paul. Of course, you know that. So anything you wish to down me for please post it here. You know how I feel about your opinion already, though.

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Yeah Randy, and when you get unbanned if you go back to the forums and say anything that's not perfectly politically correct you get the death penalty next. Banned forever I suppose. So what's the point.

Same as me. So I don't know if I'll go back once my 3 month ban is lifted. I might just post in the sports forums. Once upon a time, before my last two arbitrary and capricious bans, I was the most active poster in that forum. That forum now sucks. Not for the same reason as some of the other forums, but due to lack of activity. One post in the last 34 hours and 0 replies. But if I do post in the sports forum again, I suppose some Browns fan would twist what I said and file a personal attack report.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

B&GJ--Yeah, it's funny how brave some people are when they know you can't respond to their assertions in person. Thankfully, my friends have done it for me and I do thank them for their loyalty.

Yes, I cannot go back to the forums when this ban ends because we both know the HP mods will use anything as an excuse to ban me permanently, not that they actually need a real reason in the first place.

No big deal though. The forums are the most boring I've ever seen since coming here 3 and a half years ago. Very few interesting writers are left to keep them going now with almost all of them being banned at this point. All that's left are under the control of the HP staff and mods now. Sheeple!

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Hey Randy, my new favorite hubber is kiraberridge. 30 hubs in 3 hours on HubPages like this one:

http://hubpages.com/autos/Insurance-aaa40...

I nominate this new hubber for an accolade for . . . well there has to be an accolade for something as noteworthy as this.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

The site is full of crud like this, B&GJ. This was why HP was hit so hard by Google a year and a half ago. They allowed any kind of junk which made them money to be published here and we all suffered for it. That's why I don't have any faith in their "new" ideas anymore.

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Barnsey 4 years ago from Happy Hunting Grounds

Damn right, its about google acuity not about writing, as was originally advertised! SSSSS, indeed, good sir, SSSSSS indeed.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yep Barnsey, quality is not at the forefront of content desirability here. I mean, have you noticed the hubs featured on Hub of the day lately by those mentored by staff? Nuh-uh for me. I certainly do not aspire to write in such a manner.

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

When I click on Hubs the first ones that come up are the Hot ones. The same two hubs have been #1 and #2 for at least 3 days. "Cluster Headaches - My Worst Pain Ever" is #1 with a hub score of 83 and "The Cost of Killer Heels - Not for the Squeamish" is #2.

Now, I have nothing against those 2 hubs. I haven't read them and have no intention of doing so. But why, when at the top of the page it says "Hubs 1-10 (updated every 30 minutes)" is that obviously not the case? Of course those two hubs are going to get a bunch of comments since they are the first ones you see.

I'm just saying.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

B&GJ--LOL! You soon learn not to take anything posted by staff seriously in cases such as this. Updates are seldom done correctly and many aspects of the site run late, especially on weekends when staff is playing around. For instance, the screwed up stats for the last couple of days is nothing new.

It amazes me how many people actually have faith in what they are told here by the employees. They'll eventually catch on to the scheme in most cases.

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Drax 4 years ago from NYC....

Randy - I must disagree with you on this, I have found HuB staff to be most helpful and you must understand when there are major upgrades there will always be delays and glitches. It adds nothing to the community to denigrate people who offer a fabulous product and who are doing their best.

A forum is always hard work since there are so many people with different levels of skill and different levels of knowledge. I have been banned myself since I have little patience with idiots & there are many more idiots than geniuses. It is much better for my own karma to be more chilled out and relaxed and participate in it as fun and not a battle.

I would sincerely recommend this approach to you.

Ciao Drax


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Drax--I'm pleased you've been treated fairly by HP staff, Drax. Many of us have not. I don't see the difficulty of treating people the same no matter their skill or knowledge, despite your opinion. "A fabulous product" is another matter of opinion from you and nothing else.

I can understand why you haven't experienced the same treatment as some of us have with your kissing up to them as you do. I refuse to respect people who have none for others, but you go right ahead if you please.

You have no idea what we have been through with the frightened, nameless, faceless, anonymous moderators and staff on this site or you would not take the stand you have. You handle your karma and let us deal with our own. I appreciate your input but I have no reason to believe you've had the same experience as some of us have.

Let them put a name to their accusations if they have the nerve. Or keep hiding behind anonymity if they do not. I have no use for cowards when they dish out unmerited bans to those not in agreement with them. But you go on taking up for them and you'll do fine here. Your type are always around to make excuses for them on these type sites. There's a name for you guys too.

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

This is the best post on that latest WD Curry thread by readytoescape:

"The place use to be fun, good conversation full of wit, humor, insight and even brief glimpses of intelligence from talented writers and creative minds.

Enter all the bans and the pursuant withdrawal of many engaging participants and the forums now are nothing but poster boards for political trolls and a constant war over religion.

Boring, unimaginative and mostly uninviting."


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes, some remember how fun and enlightening the forums used to be, B&GJ. About a year ago the mods became impossible for many veterans of the site to enjoy the forums anymore. Apparently they were told to single out certain writers here and get them to keep quiet. Those who didn't were banned for 3 months as I was.

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Drax 4 years ago from NYC....

well Randy... I was being conciliatory, I did not say you were a richard head or denigrate you in any way. I was pointing out to you that anybody can be banned but if the language and tone you use with me here is representative then I am not surprised if you were treated with disdain.

I would say to you now 'Do not get stuck in the door on your way out since we will all be glad to see the back of you... :-)


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LOL! Drax, whatever a Drax is, I'm so pleased to find out YOU are empowered to speak for "we" whoever that is. I must have missed the election somehow. Sorry, I didn't realize you were the spokesman for so many folks here on HP :p

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Will Apse 4 years ago

Well, I reckon you should either let Hubpages go completely as a social site, Randy (for the sake of your peace of mind). Or you should come back after your ban and avoid calling calling anyone a windbag.

Besides, it is easy enough to send someone into a carpet-biting rage if they upset you without resorting to personal abuse.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

HA, Will! Like I'm using HP as a social site now. LOL! No thanks, the forums stink lately anyway unless you wish to count backwards or something. And besides, having biased censors control my views is not something I wish to experience. Personally, if windbag is too strong of a word to use on the forums then we are dealing with a children's site anyway.

It seems like HP is trying to be FaceBook lately so who needs the forums? I can talk with those I please elsewhere, or even here. No, the forums are yours and Drax's, Will. Enthrall the newbies at will, Will! :)

Don't worry, I'm having a great time doing other things now. I'll not be back on the forums. I'm really not enraged about anything, even though some apparently think so. HP is not worth getting upset about, really. It will soon go the way of other content farms most likely. Been there, done that. :p

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SomewayOuttaHere 4 years ago from TheGreatGigInTheSky

i've been following your hub...i will miss your comments in the forums....

where's suzie and the rest of the gang gone?.......i was just gettin' to know them......i really liked bubba...ha ha ha...thanks Chip!

....later...gater


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Always good to hear from you, SomewayOuttaHere! Well, when the forums are controlled by censorship by the powers-that-be like they are here then they are not worth participating in anyway. They fool no one but those who trust them. Less and less these days as you can tell.

Suzie and the others have all been banned, of course. HP cannot abide the voice of reason anymore, it goes against their policy. LOL!

Yep, Chip had things going on there for a while. HP is no place for fun anymore, so the result is what you now see on the forums. Stop in anytime! Thanks for your thoughts.

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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Suzie looked town a found out she was a he and then took a walk on the wild side,LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KaWSOlASWc


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LOL, Dusty! :)

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Drax 4 years ago from NYC....

@Randy... alas I have so little time to come out and play... saying that I suppose as an elder Hubpages person it is beholden on me to correct you in the limited time I can devote to such morons as yourself... ;-)

...you obviously have a problem with your nouns and adjectives... that would take too long to correct... so forget that... so the We, that is the group of us Hubpages Aficionados that congregate regularly here... so yes I am empowered to speak for them... it may well be that a wider group of Hubpages users would also like me to speak on their behalf but that is for another day... do not concern yourself with that... we do not need your input... :-)


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50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

Drax , lots of smiles as you ragged on Randy with funny stuff to be sure. I noticed the remark of Email on your profile, a click with the right mouse on fan mail brings up a blue line in the upper right corner that provides email via hub pages, I haven't changed and am not sure if I'll be required to later, we'll see, 'cuz I like the old format the best,

Peace,

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Drax 4 years ago from NYC....

@50 something... who rattled your cage... fuck off


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ah gee Drax, I so hoped you could spare some time to share your "wisdom" with me so all of those making up the "we" in your remarks could see just how great you are. But really, I don't believe you have been appointed to speak for anyone but yourself on this hub. Being such a popular dude though, I'm sure those who empowered you to be their spokesman will quickly show up here and back you up on the claim. LOL!

Like anyone gives a big dogf-ck what you think anyway. You have a nice day now, ya heah. :)

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Drax 4 years ago from NYC....

I stand in the light of my own intellect asshole so I do not need any acquiescence from anyone... sssss... you believe what you want , what you say has really no relevance... :-)


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@50 caliber--I see you are acquainted with the "Rhyme of the Ancient Manurer," Dusty. LOL! Never heard of him before he decided to visit this hub.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ah, just as I imagined. You do indeed "stand in the light of your own intellect asshole." I could not describe your position any better. My suggestion is to strike a match for a bit more light. You'll be able to see much better. :P

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Drax 4 years ago from NYC....

ha ha it is so delightful you took that bait lol...


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Sure, tell me you planned to screw up and thereby trap me, Drax. Genius!! LOLOLOL! Better get back to those you represent and wow them with your greatness. Remember, you don't have the time to deal with me. :P

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Drax 4 years ago from NYC....

I had some time free this evening and so this has been very entertaining.. it is interesting to deal (occasionally) with assholes of your magnitude :-)


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

At least your posting here keeps you from writing anymore of that drivel you refer to as "poetry," so that's a thing good for everyone here. :)

And I'm positive you are an "a$shole expert" if there ever was one since you apparently love to use the word in your comments. Very quaint! :P

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CMHypno 4 years ago from Other Side of the Sun

I have to say that the comments section of your hub is far more interesting than the forums these days Randy! All they are doing over there is complaining about newbies asking the same old questions and talking about nail polish (and if newbies stopped asking questions who would they get to impart their wisdom to?)


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Drax 4 years ago from NYC....

@Randy... are you now a literary critic... ? what do I care for any critique from any critic since if they had talent they would be writing not criticising... :-) I see that are you are afraid of profanity here.. ? why does the word asshole or motherfucker or fuck off bother you.. I note also that you did not allow comments of mine, so what are you afraid of Randy... being banned... lol :P


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910chris 4 years ago from North Carolina

I agree with CMH! This is some damn good stuff!! Go Randy Go!!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LOL, Cynthia! Sure, all of the really cool hubbers--such as yourself-- show up here occasionally to chew the fat. Even some of HP's biggest brown-nosers and blow-hards--see the last visitor before you posted--feel they have to put in their two "scents" worth. LOL!

Yes the forums stink these days, but apparently the mods like it this way. Wanta count to 1,000,00 backwards? :)

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CMHypno 4 years ago from Other Side of the Sun

Let's crack open the popcorn 910chris as Randy is currently 7/4 on favourite in this one! Expecting the Apse and the Goodman to turn up any minute now.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Drax- I've approved all of your comments so far and besides, I have my settings to automatically allow comments on my hubs. It must be dimmer in the light of your intellect than I imagined.

An what makes you think I'm not writing? Are you psychic as well as being a self proclaimed spokesman for the masses? :o

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

CM and Chris--Gee, you guys must be desperate for entertainment today to find this stuff interesting. LOL! But really, his poetry may be fine. If you enjoy such.....! I haven't read any of it Still, give me a good limerick any day. :P

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Drax 4 years ago from NYC....

@Randy... well... actually no, you did decline to post comments.. but do not worry a good flame war is always fun... it is a pity to disappoint your imagination, how will I come to terms with that.. ok wait, ahhh 12 seconds... I feel better now...

You writing, OMG !!... I never heard of you before I decided to visit this hub... ;-) so all the ssss back at you... until next week !


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Drax--Well... I'm gonna have to go ahead and call you a liar on this one, honey. But feel free to go ahead and prove me wrong. As I stated before, comments post automatically with no need for me to do it manually. On this hub posters may comment to each other even when I'm not logged in to HP.

I have no idea which comments you claim were not approved or allowed to be posted. you're simply mistaken about this. Haven't I allowed you to use your favorite word here?LOL!

It's funny though, I've never called people on the forums names such as you have used on this hub, but yet, you come here to admonish me about my actions on the forums. Brilliant.

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Eaglekiwi 4 years ago from -Oceania

Drax

Dont know ya ,least not under that name ,but maybe you could write your own hub and cheer your own comments section,(that way you can write all the vulgaritys to your little hearts content,because its seems you may be jealous of Randys popularity.

I know I am ,hes so darn hot, even for a snake.....hehe


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LOL! Thanks, EK! I wondered why he felt impelled to admonish me for my actions here, as well as, why he insulted Dusty too. 6 years here and twice the number of hubs I have and he still hasn't reached the 1,000,000 views accolade despite his claim to greatness. LOL!

Perhaps he is a staff member or moderator himself? That would make sense! :)

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Ho hum.

Went to the forums to see if there was anything of interest. I did see one thread entitled "What is the most interesting place or event you ever visited?"

Unfortunately, I can't post in the forums because I'm banned. But if I wasn't I would have posted that if you are talking about the most interesting place or event on HubPages, it is this hub.

Reminds me of a movie I once saw. The title was "They Shoot Horse's Asses, Don't They?" as I recall.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@BLACKANDGOLDJACK--Well, the mods apparently have their wish and the forums are practically dead except for same old political and religious threads. Except for those helping the newbies with their questions--which are already answered in the learning center for the most part--there are no conversations worthy of most Hubber's time and effort.

Too bad, there used to be some great discussions by some of most talented writers on HP. Apparently the "a's" are being featured the most to try and get a return on the money HP has already paid them for writing their assignments. I wonder how long this silly program will last? Sometimes the HOTD is an embarrassment with the many mistakes in grammar and content in the article. Makes me wonder what genius is picking them out in the first place.

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910chris 4 years ago from North Carolina

@ CMH, you bring the popcorn, I'll bring the beer! Or whatever you might drink. I wonder if Drax is banned for his vulgarity? This is the first time I have seen language like that here. Anyway, it looks like Randy is doing just fine without those unintelligent forums. As am I.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Beer? Did somebody say beer?

What kind of beer?

I bet the moderators drink O'Douls. Not much alcohol and it tastes like rat piss.

There has to be some rational explanation for all this arbitrary and capricious banning.

Bad beer?


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Dorsi 4 years ago from The San Francisco Bay Area

Hey Randy I'm an "a" and that's for apprentice (not the other word lol) I'm appreciating the "a" courses, it's helping me learn more. I hope to share some "a" tips" with you all as soon as I get through this rigorous course!

Now if I could only get my traffic back I'd be alot happier!


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Reality Bytes 4 years ago from Freeman On The Land United States of America.

Meet the recent member with the 'elite' title. Three weeks as a member already banned from Hubpages, but proudly showing the "e" on his avatar!

LOL

http://hubpages.com/@ajiaboshuu


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910chris 4 years ago from North Carolina

BAGJ- I think I might have to get a keg now! I hope everybody likes "miller lite", cause that's all I can afford!


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diyomarpandan 4 years ago

Wow, that banned Elite was weird. How did he even become an Elite after only 3 weeks?


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LOL Dorsi. I have no problem with veterans being in the Apprenticeship program if they choose to do so, but I think it's a betrayal of loyalty by HP to place the new members in the program ahead of those who have already contributed lots of hubs to the site.

Besides this, I have no desire to emulate any of the staffers teaching the program. I must have respect for someone before I want them showing me anything.

Good to see you Dorsi!! :)

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Reality Bytes--Notice how silent the-powers-that-be are on this subject. I saw the thread and naturally wanted to weigh in on it but my ban was designed just for such an emergency. LOL!

The whole "elite" program was an indication as to which direction this site was headed and why I started the thread concerning the problems it would cause to the morale and community. But then, HP knew this already. What a joke of a program. Elite indeed! LOL! More like "E-Lite" :P

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SomewayOuttaHere 4 years ago from TheGreatGigInTheSky

...hey all!......was looking for a song to post here but haven't found a good version yet....to add to the beer and popcorn...i have wine!...cheers!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@SomeWay OuttaHere--How about "Goodbye Yellow Broke Road?" :p

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

I think an appropriate song for this hub would be "Boobs A Lot" by the Fugs.

First, there are more boobs around this place than at a strip club.

Second, if Randy didn't like boobs a lot, he wouldn't let some of these people post, but as he said, he never deletes comments.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LOL, B&GJ! Far be it for me to emulate HP and censor those who I do not agree with. This would make me be as bad as they are. Not even close! :)

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Aha! I've been wondering why HP mods gave so many of its outspoken members 3 month bans. I predicted there would be some real controversial changes made shortly and so there are.

For most of the creative writers, the new "Idle Hubs" program will quell almost all outside traffic to their work as they make very little money for HP. Never mind the former arrangement to at least get them out there.

I knew the forum bans were so petty and nit-picking there had to be another reason for them. And now we have it, only those who don't create much stink about injustices are left to argue them. And even they are pissed now. What a crock of sh*t! :(

Yep, it's a good thing I cannot post on the thread about it I suppose!

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SomewayOuttaHere 4 years ago from TheGreatGigInTheSky

some BB King....i'll bring some candles too!...later gater!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVxCtt3s_1M


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

HA! I guessed the title before I actually clicked in it, SOH! LOL! Yep, the thrill is certainly fleeting in a right pert hurry. Bo wonder HP is pushing the newbies so much. They'll never know the difference after a bit. Out with the old....in with the BS! :(

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WDC111 4 years ago

Hey B&G Jack. If you are talking Fugs, then I think "Robinson Crusoe" is more appropriate . . . you know, "Friday, I have been on this island for long time without the companionship of a female. I was wondering, if I gave you enough coconuts, would you become an apprentice on HubPages? Money is out of the question."

Who's this Irish dude, Drax? Some kind of dark Irish poet, or what? This is a good example of why not to get falling down drunk and go on the internet. He could be from Singapore, the way it really works.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@WDC--Drax is probably one of the frightened, faceless, gutless, moderators employed by HP as he has been a member for a long time. He obviously believes he can speak for others here but I've never heard of the dude before. I would be ashamed to be here that long with so many hubs and not even reaching a million views yet. But hey, I allowed him to spread his cr*p here and didn't censor him despite his vulgar name calling.

This is what pisses me off the most. HP favorites get away with calling anyone names, even profane terms, but I call someone a pompous windbag and get 3 months forum ban. But there's plenty of intelligent folks here who know HP is simply banning those they don't want to be heard because of all of the crazy new changes being made.

Only the newbies don't realize they are being used by HP to bolster the new changes because they don't know how bad they are getting treated. They will eventually, I promise.

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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Here's my latest candidate for the Apprentice program:

http://hubpages.com/politics/disrespect-to-the-pre...

Three hubs so far, all just a little over a hundred words, and the author is not smarter than a 5th grader.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Surprise, surprise, more unhappy HP campers:

http://hubpages.com/literature/If-Its-Unfair-On-Hu...


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha! More like a candidate to TEACH the program, B&GJ! LOL! Definitely "elite" material!!

Plenty of unhappy Hubbers these days but HP could care less. HP will get their due, though. I hope they are all looking for jobs a year from now. I'd love to give them a job reference!! LOL!

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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

What a long and winding road of comments! I didn't think they would ever end.

HubPages Staff is not fair when it comes to demonetizing Hubs. This is know.

I have always avoided the forums because I saw right away that they dominated by Atheists and Marxists (more or less the same thing; I know!) who don't actually make any points or present any reasonable arguments. They simply call everybody names except their sycophants.

Ten of my 270 Hubs were demonetized and there is nothing at all wrong with them except they contradict the comrades in the party.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hello James. Although we don't agree either on religion or politics we both realize the power and control HP staff has over our writing efforts. It's no secret they can feature or conceal anyone's work here if they take the notion. And apparently the notion has struck them frequently as of late.

No matter if I agree with a person's point of view or not, Is till want them to be able to express it without being at the mercy of some nameless, faceless moderator who may have an agenda of their own.

With the latest controversial "idling"--and therefore de-indexing of certain writer's hubs--this has gotten completely out of control and barely tolerable from a writer's viewpoint. The big whoop-de-do sub-domain change which killed my traffic overnight was thought up by the same geniuses who came up with this new program. I suspect a mass exodus may be in the near future for HP.

Thanks for your input and time.

Randy


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trish1048 4 years ago

Wow! is all I can say. I used to visit the forums quite some time ago, and decided, after many months, to stop visiting. My reason has nothing to do with being banned, but had to do with the carrying on that went on there, especially in political and religious forums. While visiting those forums, I found that often, what is said is misconstrued. It seems every word is scrutinized and every sentence is dissected. I also found, quite often, that anything I said was rarely acknowledged. So after much soul-searching, I thought, let me just stick to my writing.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

LOL Trish! Yes, one has to be thick skinned to participate in the forums, whether they be religious, political, or merely those used by the appointed "Kumbaya" group of hubbers.

But not to worry now, the forums are practically useless for exchange of ideas by writers because of the massive censorship applied to some members right before the latest controversial changes to the site. No secret why, of course.

Censorship has ruined the forums and I don't see them ever recovering from this. Trust has taken a big blow on HP lately and it doesn't bode well for the future of the site. The "idle hubs" program is a disaster in waiting for creative writers on HP.

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Will Apse 4 years ago

Wow! I just saw a white rabbit hopping across this page!

Must have been on the way to a mad hatter's tea party.

Such fun!!!


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Perhaps it was following that pink elephant you're always chasing, Will! LOL! Something for you to do during your "idle" time? :p

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trish1048 4 years ago

Sadly, many people go to the forums to simply get people riled up and then launch into character assassinations. It's like they turn into sharks in a feeding frenzy. That kind of behavior should be banned. I, on the other hand, had always thought it was a good place to share ideas, thoughts and such. I also thought this is a good way to meet many people of like minds and possibly make a friend or two. But, you know how the story of one bad apple goes. Perhaps I should join Will in searching for the pink elephant :)


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God is in kitchen 4 years ago from Austria

I am a newbie, but just discovered this. I think HubPages staff has a long history of sockpuppeting.

Just googled and found this thread - "Is it OK if Hubpages STAFF run sockpuppet accounts to goad hub forums?"

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/88106

It seems HubPages staff, Jason Menayan was caught red=handed sockpuppeting. There is no wonder that poet Drax has shown that exceptional courage, and that he is still not banned. Where are we?


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God is in kitchen 4 years ago from Austria

These type of websites have a tendency for neuroticism. The staff becomes dictators. They like to play games and torture naive souls who join this cheesy platform unsuspecting what is it all about.

HubPages is not about money, it's about pleasing hotrod search-engines. They like if you can match what their customers are searching for.


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God is in kitchen 4 years ago from Austria

I might get banned as well after posting this, I know. Many people are silenced if they raise their voice in HubPages. They are banned outright, or just prohibited from communicating with other hubbers. No one knows that, and what they suffer.

WD Curry 111 was recently banned. I joined this website after reading one of his hubs in Google. Now, he is gone! Banned for little reason, that he spoke his heart. If he can be banned, I think Drax should be banned sooner. And we all here agree in our reaction what Drax did. Tell me Drax isn't a hub pages staff...


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God is in kitchen 4 years ago from Austria

http://hubpages.com/@wdcurry111

Did anyone notice that WD Curry 111's profile is missing the tag that he has been banned? Cover up? Sh*ttttttt


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God is in kitchen 4 years ago from Austria

http://hubpages.com/@wdcurry111

Did anyone notice that WD Curry 111's profile is missing the tag that he has been banned? Cover up? Cover up? Damn... *cough*


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IzzyM 4 years ago from UK

Hate to burst your bubble God is in the kitchen (great name by the way!) but Jason Menayan wasn't sock-puppeting as everyone knew his play-name in the forums. Well, nearly everyone. No idea who Drax is though - he or she should wash their mouth out with soap and water, or stay off hub commenting when drunk.


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Will Apse 4 years ago

Well. I think of God in the Kitchen as a troll novitiate. He has shown some aptitude and some discipline in his chosen calling. And unlike some moralizers, I think a genuinely fine troll (think Jonathan Swift) is not be discouraged . So I will watch his development with a fatherly interest.


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God is in kitchen 4 years ago from Austria

If you take away the context, then certain actions lose weight. Here is the link to livelonger's profile, whose real name is Jason Menayan and who is HubPages' employee. Before that scandal, livelonger used to use a profile picture which showed some Chinese art-design, that means it contained no image by which you can recognize that this fellow is a HubPages employee. Even look at that profile, it just says his name is Jason Menayan, but no information is provided that he works for HubPages.

Here is Jayson Meyanan's official HuyPages' accuount, have a look - http://hubpages.com/@jasonmenayan

Now compare the two profiles, and their profile pictures. livelonger doesn't even have a mugshot. Tell me, honestly, that he never used that profile for sockpuppeting?

GO TO THIS THREAD-

"Are You Unhappy with HubPages?"

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/88062#post1884491

A well-known hubber, sunforged, raised some issues and livelonger aka Jayson Menayan didn't like that, or couldn't just tolerate that. So, to scare sunforged, he revealed sunforged's real name and his social security number, being a staff he had the privilege to access that information. Read here -

sunforged - "Interesting, so did a Hubpages staff member just abuse his privileges and acess to information or did a forum user just abusively post identifying information?

See the two name confusion?

Should I be sending an email to one of the Paul's asking whether this is accepted practice from staff or just sending a report to a forum moderator?

The difference between me posting your alternative persona and real name as a public staff member in the context of my point is quite different then my privacy as a user isnt it?

What if I have a stalker or in my private life Im some sort of public figure who wouldnt want my name attached to this site? "

( http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/88062#post1884520 )


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God is in kitchen 4 years ago from Austria

If you take away the context, then certain actions lose weight. Here is the link to livelonger's profile, whose real name is Jason Menayan and who is HubPages' employee. Before that scandal, livelonger used to use a profile picture which showed some Chinese art-design, that means it contained no image by which you can recognize that this fellow is a HubPages employee. Even look at that profile, it just says his name is Jason Menayan, but no information is provided that he works for HubPages.

Here is Jayson Meyanan's official HuyPages' accuount, have a look - http://hubpages.com/@jasonmenayan

Now compare the two profiles, and their profile pictures. livelonger doesn't even have a mugshot. Tell me, honestly, that he never used that profile for sockpuppeting?

GO TO THIS THREAD-

"Are You Unhappy with HubPages?"

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/88062#post1884491

A well-known hubber, sunforged, raised some issues and livelonger aka Jayson Menayan didn't like that, or couldn't just tolerate that. So, to scare sunforged, he revealed sunforged's real name and his social security number, being a staff he had the privilege to access that information. Read here -

sunforged - "Interesting, so did a Hubpages staff member just abuse his privileges and acess to information or did a forum user just abusively post identifying information?

See the two name confusion?

Should I be sending an email to one of the Paul's asking whether this is accepted practice from staff or just sending a report to a forum moderator?

The difference between me posting your alternative persona and real name as a public staff member in the context of my point is quite different then my privacy as a user isnt it?

What if I have a stalker or in my private life Im some sort of public figure who wouldnt want my name attached to this site? "

( http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/88062#post1884520 )


God is in kitchen 4 years ago

Hi IzzyM,

I wanted to post this from my original profile, but the comment is not showing up. So I go here. If you take away the context, then certain actions lose weight. Here is the link to livelonger's profile, whose real name is Jason Menayan and who is HubPages' employee. Before that scandal, livelonger used to use a profile picture which showed some Chinese art-design, that means it contained no image by which you can recognize that this fellow is a HubPages employee. Even look at that profile, it just says his name is Jason Menayan, but no information is provided that he works for HubPages.

Here is Jayson Meyanan's official HuyPages' accuount, have a look - http://hubpages.com/@jasonmenayan

Now compare the two profiles, and their profile pictures. livelonger doesn't even have a mugshot. Tell me, honestly, that he never used that profile for sockpuppeting?

GO TO THIS THREAD-

"Are You Unhappy with HubPages?"

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/88062#post1884491

A well-known hubber, sunforged, raised some issues and livelonger aka Jayson Menayan didn't like that, or couldn't just tolerate that. So, to scare sunforged, he revealed sunforged's real name and his social security number, being a staff he had the privilege to access that information. Read here -

sunforged - "Interesting, so did a Hubpages staff member just abuse his privileges and acess to information or did a forum user just abusively post identifying information?

See the two name confusion?

Should I be sending an email to one of the Paul's asking whether this is accepted practice from staff or just sending a report to a forum moderator?

The difference between me posting your alternative persona and real name as a public staff member in the context of my point is quite different then my privacy as a user isnt it?

What if I have a stalker or in my private life Im some sort of public figure who wouldnt want my name attached to this site? "

( http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/88062#post1884520 )


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Trish--Yes, the forums used to be a place where like-minded writers could discuss many subjects and get input from others on ideas they were considering writing about on HP. Too bad the moderators decided to play god with censorship and ruined them for everyone but the class favorites and pets. Ah well--they are welcome to them now.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@God is dead- Yes, there is clearly a difference in when a staffer decides to break the rules and when they can personally administer bans to ordinary members on the forums. By ordinary I mean those not in the "elite" or "apprenticeship" programs. Those folks get a free ride in the forums with obvious protection from being punished for their posts. The links you've given clearly indicate such.

Face it, HP mods are all about controlling the complaints and dissenters to the new programs they have introduced. I hope these new ideas are better than those which have done nothing so far to help make up for the disastrous changes we've been forced to experience in the last few months.

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Sorry "God is in kitchen" I mixed up your username with another hubber. Am now getting a kick out of reading the forum where an "a" is suggesting using their ilk as mentors. Not here for six months and already a professional because of the AP. LOLOLOLOLOL!

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God is in kitchen 4 years ago from Austria

Got a 3 days' ban for creating this thread:-

Is HubPages STAFF using Drax as a Sockpuppet?

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/102896

Poor little HubPages, so scared of me, gotta love this. If Drax is no one's sockpuppet, or if his account has not been misused by a staff, then why is he not banned, still, after writing those flowery comments on this hub?

There is a limit while you manipulate anyone. When it is crossed, it becomes an evidence. If Drax does not get banned, then this matter will go elsewhere. HubPages has been playing too long. They haven't seen the big player. Good luck Big Brother's minions


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God is in kitchen 4 years ago from Austria

Randy, I know how to handle the crook. HubPages is a double dealer, they banned WD Curry 111, but they will do no harm to Drax. Anyone reading this, I give this warning: "This cheesy platform is a hoax. Stay away and think ten times before you join this site. It's a rip off. They can steal whatever they want. They are the thief, and they are the police."


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Reality Bytes 4 years ago from Freeman On The Land United States of America.

Randy,

Only an apprentice is qualified to give advice and charge for it. What a pretentious load of bollocks!


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God is in kitchen 4 years ago from Austria

Are you still into that Marxist propaganda spreading, comrade?


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

@Reality Bytes- Precisely the reason I detest the "special" designations on the site. Give someone something with which to make them special and many actually believe it is true. Excuse me while I go blow grits.(southern expression for throwing up) LOL

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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Giik--HP will do as they please whether the writers like it or not. Money talks and bull**t walks. Fairness, honesty, integrity, these are merely minor factors when chasing the mighty dollar. It's the American way. Nameless,faceless entities do not feel shame.

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Buck Steiner 4 years ago from Steiner Ranch

Banned? OMG! Welcome to the ranks of the damned. Life will go on and hubpages will still be the little girls they are.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

Heya Buck! I thought they had kicked you off long ago! LOL! Good to hear from you though! :) Didn't you mean to say "prissy little girls?" LOL

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Rate this Band 4 years ago

Hi Randy! kiSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. It's Kimberlyslyrics and yes I just left, however am testing a concept here given I thought the largest choices of media live here. Turns out my hub was pulled and I found a better platform. So it's good. I have to say you know how many times I have been banned only once justified.

The Team has now surpassed all signs of support or professionalism. I have 7 personas and don't abuse them rather prefer focussing on certain topics individually. My main persona 'prey' exceeding 2 years is now also banned indefinitely for forums, I swear I can feel them laughing. Those bans stung when the forums were free and a place to blow off some steam.

I'm not going to go into the numerous acts of disrespect I have experienced on this site and am enjoying experimenting with others. The hardest part for me is not flirting LOL some of the down to earth and talented writers here. Truly.

Here's my point; I wrote a comprehensive awesome marketing report for me working with the team from Canada.

I spent $6,000.00 willingly once a meeting was set up to Headquarters by well known members. This was my decision and left feeling quite excited about my presentation. When I arrived they were unavailable so I extended the trip to a new time for them to meet. More expenses. I showed up at the office early and Simone, nor Jason were in the office-gone for a few days. I did see Paul Deeds waved and he turned away as to attempt to make me feel less than.

Despite numerous attempts to reschedule, no tour, met no one and was asked to leave my pkg. with reception, I never heard from them.

THIS IS HOW THEY TREATED A HUBBER who wrote here a long time.

Now Randy that finally felt good and you are more than justified in your opinions, and fact, well there is one example that backs you up.

Be well my friend!

Kimberly


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 4 years ago from Blitzburgh area

Dagnabbit, this hub made me laugh out loud:

http://janesix.hubpages.com/hub/Banned-AGAIN-from-...

I don't know why. It's not really funny.


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Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia Author

It is to the mods, B&GJ. It is to the mods. :(

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TerryGl 4 years ago

Hi Randy, well said. My account had all the hubs unpublished and wait for this - all my followers went to zero. That's how petty they are here. MR did a really good number on me because she "thinks" I spun my hubs.

Your better off working on your own sites and congrats on finally making the right move. Took you long enough.


God is in kitchen 4 years ago

I have been banned from this f*cked website. But can still access my account. I have not been banned, but just my profile have the tag "This user has been banned".

I can't post anymore, neither in forums, nor on this hub. Anyone who wants to check that, here is how to enter my account.

Username - God is in kitchen

Password - 9474689421


God in in kitchen 4 years ago

This is the way they silence people. First, I got a 3 days' ban. Now, today they are saying I have been permanently banned from the forums. I guess I can't post any comments from my original account, to this hub anymore.

Go to my profile, and it says I have been knocked out from this website. If that is true, how can I still access that account?

Is this the way F**K PAGES' girls cover up their crimes?


God is in kitchen 4 years ago

There was no reason for a permanent ban, except that I posted some comments in this hub. I don't know, it's like playing a dirty game with fifth grade school girls. I need a big stick...


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