Is Your Google Drop Caused By Bad Links In Your Articles?

Bad Links Public Domain
Bad Links Public Domain

I am not going to waste your time by telling you the obvious. We all know that linking to other sites can be either a good thing or a bad. Before Google decided to keep doing their Google algorithm changes and lots of Panda Updates, and of course tweaking this and that just to tick us all off, we were all doing fine.

Admittedly some of us, including me, don't necessarily know a lot about back linking our websites or whether a link is good or bad. SEO has so many rules and regulations that it would take months to figure it all out.

But everybody knows that making comments to another site's forum pages and back linking to your own website can be a good thing. We all do it. But now it seems that doing this is one of the problems. Its never that simple is it? So I decided to do a bit of digging. And what I found not only surprised me, it cause quite a bit of mumbling under my breath too! And for that to happen it must really have ticked me off. So if you want to find out why you have a sudden drop in page ranking on your articles, there are a few things that you need to do. And one big thing in particular.

Link Devaluation

There are many reasons why google doesn't like your article links. One of the main reasons is paid links. For a long time google was quite complacent about this, but it seems that now it ticks them off big time. And it doesn't take a lot to work out that whoever you link to, or buy from may not have a particularly good site in the first place. if they go down, you go with them. Simple as that.

And then there is the do-follow sites, and forums. A lot of these have external links that have absolutely diddlysquat to do with the actual subject. These are being penalised by google in a big way.

Most of us write for various sites and even though they may be perfectly good, clean and trustworthy, they may still plummet down the old google hole because of a few writers who are particulary bad that are writing for that site. And your work may get linked without you knowing. But we all know this anyway. Google Webmaster tools are a good way to check out these links and tell you what needs to be done.

Bad Neighborhood Link Tool Checker Public Domain
Bad Neighborhood Link Tool Checker Public Domain

Bad neighborhood Link Checker Tool

Now I come to the main point. After checking different google tools and reading about the obvious bad back link problems, I came across this site.

The Bad neighborhood Link Checker Tool. This tool scans the links to your website and obviously the sites that you link too. Its a very simple thing to use.

All you need to do is put your Profile Page Url in the search box. You don't have to do every single hub that you have written. Well, you can but if you have thousands of hubs then that will take forever.So I copied my Url and put it in the search. And boy was I surprised with the results that came up!

The one thing I never realised, call me stupid, was the fact that everytime we make a comment on another hubber's hub, that causes a link back to our own site. Obvious you may say, but hear me out. I just presumed that by commenting it would just be, well, a comment! I thought to make a link we had to use the link box, or place our Url in the comment box. But it seems this is not so.

And in the same way, if someone comments on your hub it will automatically link them to you. Now I didn't read this, I saw it! I have over two hundred hubs, and the Link Checker Tool only scanned 39 for some reason. Maybe I will have to do it again for the rest.

The one thing I did notice, however, was the fact that it told me exactly what was causing the Questionable Links.

Scan Queue1) http://nell-rose.hubpages.com/
Scanned: 117 links found, 0 questionable links found, header returned: 2002) http://hubpages.com/
Found on: nell-rose.hubpages.com
Scanned: 73 links found, 0 questionable links found, header returned: 2003) http://hubpages.com/topics/
Found on: nell-rose.hubpages.com
Scanned: 385 links found, 2 questionable links found, header returned: 2004) http://hubpages.com/hubs/hot/

On the right, you can see just a small portion of what came up when I used the Link Scanner. I have deliberately left out the links that have caused me to get the Questionable Links tab to appear. The reason for this is that the links have other hubber's names on them, who have commented on my hubs.

Nearly all of our hubs can have mistakes on them so these hubber's won't realise they have a bad link. It's easy to do. Especially If they have used a link photo, or something else. And by reading down the list, I can see a few hubber's that this has happened too.

Then I found the bad ones. And was shocked to see exactly what their Url was, or what they had linked too. I am not going to say what it is because my hub will have those words and we know that will get the google bot all excited. Suffice to say a lot of these hubs have Urls that say something completely different to what they have written about. I will use an innocent example:

Underlying hub url: Cooking made easy.

Showing hub url: Taking a walk through the woods.

Get the picture? just add not very nice words in the first Url and you get the idea.


Please note that I have used sheila's as an example because it is an innocent link. I have loads of others, but the links were much more adult. And I took out most of the url too.



Questionable:
Found on: sheilab.hubpages.com/
URL: http://sheilab.............../hub/CLIMATE-CHANGE-RULES-WILL-DESTROY-THE-3RD-WORLD
Anchor text:

Some of the Urls are deliberately controversial to get higher up the page rank, while others are purely a mistake. I did notice a few that were actually eBay links that we all put on our page. How to get around that one, I have no idea.

There is one that confused me. It says something about Topics. Now I don't know if its because we 'follow' a certain Topic and that is linked to a dodgy hub. But it looks like it. If you check yours let me know if that's what it means.

Anchor Text

This is another one that can cause the Questionable Link to pop up too. We all use anchor texts in our hubs. Some of us just link to another one of our articles, but many of us link to other hubber's too. For example see (right).

So Confusing.

So, what to do? I am going to go through all my hubs and check the Anchor Texts first. Mainly because these seem to pop up more than the other problems.

Then, and this is a bit drastic but I think I will delete all the comments up until now. I know I may lose some really good Hubber's comments, but I believe it's best to start again. Then once a week I will use the Bad neighborhood Text Link Checker Tool and see what shows up again.

Where comments are concerned I will only show the first twenty, or maybe just delete older ones after maybe a month. The trouble is, if our comments are causing us to be linked to the hubbers page and they have a problem, then what do we do? We know that most hubbers are trustworthy and intelligent. They have a lot to lose too. So they will be careful, but what happens when you comment on someones hub who is maybe new, or dodgy? I suppose I have to answer my own question and say use my common sense!

If you have any ideas please let me know below. Anything that will help us all will be great thanks.


Thanks everyone for your comments. When I started this hub I wasn't sure if it was relevant to the google drop.

Greekgeek below has given the best answer to this question so far. And I want to say thanks to her. Thanks guys, don't forget to take a look a Greekgeeks hubs too!

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Deborah Brooks profile image

Deborah Brooks 4 years ago from Brownsville,TX

very interesting.. thank you for writing this.. I had no idea what is good or not

I guess I just go with the flow..

Great hub

Debbie


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Candie V 4 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

Well.. this is a problem of epic proportions! When you get done weeding out yours.. can you have a go at mine?

You've done an amazing amount of work here Nell! Thank you!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Deborah, lol! I think I will too! thanks for reading, cheers nell

Hi Candie, it was the comment links that threw me, I never realised that this would be the problem, thanks for reading, cheers nell


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alocsin 4 years ago from Orange County, CA

I keep up with SEO and Google but this is news to me. Thanks for the heads-up Nell. I'll try this new tool out and see what it produces. Voting this Up and Useful.


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theclevercat 4 years ago from Massachusetts

Ugh, I just ran this and found 10 questionable links in 39 pages. This stinks! I wonder what would happen if we un-follow these hubbers instead of deleting comments. Would they still be related somehow? I guess we're going to have to do an experiment, Nell.


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Anamika S 4 years ago from Mumbai - Maharashtra, India

This is awesome! I never knew such a tool existed. I am off to check my domain. Thanks a lot! Hub voted up as useful.


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vocalcoach 4 years ago from Nashville Tn.

Oh heck! Just when I thought I had it all figured out....

So glad you wrote this hub for us Nell. Just not sure what to do. First tho, I will go see what the damage is for my own hubs on the link checker tool.

Thanks a million and voted up!


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Clive Donegal 4 years ago from En Route

Most helpful. Thank you.


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missolive 4 years ago from Texas

Very helpful and full of info. I'm saving this for a reread! Thanks for doing the research.


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moonlake 4 years ago from America

Very good information will have to check this out. Voted Up.


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AliciaC 4 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

Thank you very much for such important information, Nell. I'm going to have to read your hub again and think very carefully about what you've written. It sounds scary! Thank you for doing the research and letting us know the results.


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO

Oh Nell I am so confused! I think I understand but it sure sounds like a ton of work...! What will happen if we just do not pay attention to this detail? I mean what are the worst things that can happen...I am not sure for real!

Thanks so much for all the research you did and I do appreciate the help!


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moonlake 4 years ago from America

Well, I found some problems but have no idea what to do about them because most are really nothing. If you have a hub on anything that has to do with illegal items they will pop up on this scan. Even items in hubpage topics will pop up on your scan.


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Peggy W 4 years ago from Houston, Texas

It is late and just about time to go to bed, but I intend to check this out tomorrow. Thanks for the information. Very informative! Thanks! Useful and interesting votes.


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Peggy W 4 years ago from Houston, Texas

OK...just checked and I have a few questionable links. But what option is there once one has made comments on another person's hub? Can't remove them once made. Correct? The crazy thing is that I just made a few comments on a person's hub that appeared wonderful to me. Heartwarming and related to good parenting skills. Yet that showed up as questionable. Crazy!


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ktrapp 4 years ago from Illinois

FYI - I've looked at the source code for HubPages in the past and anytime someone leaves a link within a comment it is coded as nofollow so it should not be a cause of alarm. Of course if they are just self-promotion or spam they should be removed nonetheless.


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AEvans 4 years ago from SomeWhere Out There

Goodness! Thanks for the info and I will definitely check mine. I do use Anchor Texts and have learned so much from this up. Thumbs up and shared! :)


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Lissie 4 years ago from New Zealand

Oh come on people use your own judgement - I'm getting false positives based on links to such "dodgy" sites as those that ones that mention a French nude beach (on a travel site) and funny story called Drug Bras which is about illegal smuggling of clothing in South America.

The tool is doing nothing special at all - and I would be VERY annoyed to have my comments removed because of it!


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Marisa Wright 4 years ago from Sydney

Nell, this is a confusing subject and I can understand why it's worrying you. However, you seem to be conflating several different things and therefore worrying unnecessarily.

First - a backlink is a link TO your Hub FROM somewhere else. If you have paid to put LOTS AND LOTS of backlinks on other websites, you are likely to get penalized. You won't get penalized for only one or two.

If you have put a backlink on a "bad neighborhood" site, that site will probably get de-indexed by Google, and you'll lose the value of that backlink, which means your Hub will drop in the SERPS. But that doesn't mean you've been actively penalized by Google. You will ONLY get penalized by Google if they find you have used LOTS AND LOTS of backlinks on such sites.

There will always be people who take advantage of panic by creating a new "tool". This Bad Neighbourhood Link Checker is a good example. I wouldn't waste your time with it - and I recommend you keep reading, confirm what I've said and maybe revise this Hub accordingly.

I hope you feel a bit less concerned now!


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christopheranton 4 years ago from Gillingham Kent. United Kingdom

There is a lot to take in there Nell. I generally depend on keywords and phrases to make my hubs more visible. Simple is best for me.


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internetgeek 4 years ago from Hyderabad, India.

This is really informative and useful Hub. You have listed out some good instructions on backlinks and you made it clear by sharing "The Bad neighborhood Link Checker Tool". Thanks for sharing and voted up :)


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Alastar Packer 4 years ago from North Carolina

Thank you Nell for bringing this to our attention. Abit of a conundrum with this though. Out of 3,500 or so links only 8 showed up as iffy. These were from perfectly fine hubbers who had certain words in their hub titles like sex or drugs. Assume the back-link came by commenting off of e-mails where you have to put your Url in. Or could it link by them commenting on a hub and having the objectionable words on their site? In any case would hate for you to delete all your comments- would it be feasible to just remove the specific comments that are causing the prob?


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IzzyM 4 years ago from UK

I just went and looked at mine through the tool, and it seems someone has programmed in certain keywords to throw up a flag, which seems extreme. Surely Google hasn't gone to such lengths! According to that software, the word 'adult' is questionable, even in hubs entitled 'Treasure Hunts for Adults' which is just plain silly. These links are not questionable at all, they have just pulled out keywords and certain phrases and put a question mark beside them. I wouldn't worry about them. None are bad neighbourhoods.


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Millionaire Tips 4 years ago from USA

This is interesting, and worthy of a look. I can see how we might have to be careful about where we are providing a link - I hadn't thought about being careful where to place a comment before.


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Pamela99 4 years ago from United States

Nell, I had no idea that you could check your links or that comments were actually judged. I am going to check mine out of course, but it could possibly be quite time consuming if you delete comments and so forth. Thank you for making us aware of this situation. Up and extremely useful!


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica

I just checked my domain and I must say that my questionable links were from hubbers linking to my domain. They have written in questionable topics that Google frown upon. Thanks for sharing this Nell. I figured the other day that links might have contributed to the fall in traffic and I have been disabling my links. Now it seems I am being penalized for something I have no control over like hubbers who link to me and HPs related links system.


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tillsontitan 4 years ago from New York

On first reading this hub I thought it was probably the best thing since sliced bread, but then I ran the checker. Out of 2,900 links found, five were questionable. This one made me wonder about validity: Questionable: Found on: hubpages.com/topics/

URL: http://hubpages.com/health/health-care-drugs-and-i...

Anchor text: health care, drugs and insurance

The thing is I have no idea where this came from at all!


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Sunshine625 4 years ago from Orlando, FL

I ran the scan on my hubs. Google doesn't like s*x, or homos*xuality via links from other hubbers. I think Google has personal issues. Haha! Thanks for the info Nell!:)


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jaybird22 4 years ago from New York

Awesome information. I had no idea how the back linking system worked but now have a much better concept. Great idea for a hub as well and thanks for sharing it to our great community at HubPages ;-)


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Marissa, thanks for clearing it up a bit for me. I will change the Title and get rid of the Penalty words. I was just shocked to realise that whichever hub we comment on can be traced back through our hubs. I read a few SEO sites about this before I wrote it, and it seems thats the case. But I won't worry about a few, just go through my hubs and get rid of the wrong ones. Thanks for your input, nell


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denisemai 4 years ago from Idaho

As a new hubber, this is very informative. I'm still unclear on what backlinks are. I've never left a link to my hubs on a comment. I feel like it's kind of like spamming and would make me feel rude. And Anchor text? Whoa. I have so much to learn. Thanks for a very educational hub. Now I will check my hubs. As a matter of fact, I'm sharing your hub because I think many would be interested in this great information. Thank you!


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Diana Grant 4 years ago from London

This was so interesting, Nell. I ran a scan on my Squidoo pages (I haven't tested out my hubs yet, as I haven't got many). The only questionable link I had was on one of my pages referring to ad..tery. Well, this was because I had written an article about the Grounds for Divorce. What do I do now - delete the page? Delete that Ground for Divorce?....I don't think so!


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Green Lotus 4 years ago from Atlanta, GA

Oh Nell, what with all we have to learn about SEO and backlinking this is overwhelming. You have perhaps opened up a new can of worms that is already giving me indigestion. I will re-read it after I have a nice cup of tea.


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angela_michelle 4 years ago from United States

All of this really confuses me. Now my head is too full.


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Suelynn 4 years ago from Manitoba, Canada

Hi Nell,

Thank you so much for writing this hub. I was unaware of all of this, being pretty new to the site and actively writing. I had no idea one could link to "bad neighborhoods" and will need to figure out how to check my hubs and etc. Some of the acronyms used are still new to me and I don't know what they mean so I have some learning to do. Thank you for sharing with us and keeping all our interests at heart. Just shows that whatever you say or do, you have to watch your back. Big Brother is becoming an ever more present reality.

Voted UP, interesting and useful.


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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa

This is interesting and scary. Thank you for the information, Nell. Oh, and I agree whole-heartedly with Green Lotus :))


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi alocsin, I was just really suprised that everytime we comment it makes a link and then throws up the problems on their page too, thanks as always, nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Clever cat, I think its fine if we still follow the people who are just like us and do it unintentionally, but there are a few that we should watch out for, and I suppose its just using our common sense to get rid of bad backlinks from the obvious spammers and maybe the ones that write something that may throw us back, thanks for reading, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks Anamika, hope you found it helpful, nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi vocal, nice to see you, I was really surprised, and it also mentions it about the bad Neighborhood in the video too, so I will be just getting rid of the spammy ones that I had forgotten about, thanks again nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Clive, thanks for reading, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi missolive, I just got so curious and when I saw the info I was amazed. A lot of it is hidden in all the writing on Google help pages etc, but it took me a while to find it, thanks!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks moonlake, glad you found it helpful, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks Alicia, in a nutshell I really think its a good idea to go over our hubs and get rid of suspicious links, and maybe old comments too, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi RealHousewife, to be honest I doubt if it will cause a ton of trouble, but if we are being dragged down by other peoples bad links which they themselves can't help, then hopefully it will bring us back up to speed, thanks for reading, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi again moonlake, I think its probably best just to tweek a few things like old comments, not follow topics that may have some things that google don't like the sound off and so on, it seems google is very narrow minded when it comes to certain topics! lol!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks Peggy, it is a bit confusing. I can't quite make out whether its me commenting on theirs or them commenting on mine that causes the problem. the problem that really jumped out at me was the fact that it was the last comment that I had made on this other hubbers work that caused the problem. But of course they had commented on mine too. so which way was it? I would imagine it was because I commented on theirs, but thats the thousand dollar question, thanks again nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi ktrapp, thats interesting, its all this extra info thats really helpful, thanks so much nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks for your input Lizzie. You may well be right, but its a good idea to check. Some of the hubs may well have hidden text in their to try and get them up the google search. This is a common practise among a lot of sites. They edit their hub, add a load of completely different text with keywords in that are sure to be looked for, and then when they close the edit box tick it so it doesn't show. Nobody knows who does this, but as you can see from the option in the text box this is possible and is certainly used. Only a tool like Neighborhood can find it, thanks for reading, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

thanks christopher, just be careful of those hidden links! lol! thanks again, nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks internet, glad you found it helpful, nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Alastar, from what I read, saw in the videos and the Neighborhood thing it seems that the commenters could well have the bad words on their page. I think most of us just us what we would call normal words but google doesn't like them, and yes I am just going to remove certain comments and see if it makes a difference, I am not going to lose my lovely comment box and chats for that! lol! thanks as always, nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi IzzyM, thanks for that info, I hope you are right, maybe I am making a big hooha about it, but I will try and get rid of some of the links anyway, just to be careful, thanks as always, nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Millionaire, I think if nothing else this will give us a nudge to not be complacent of who or what we click on, thanks for reading, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks Pamela, I think its possible just to tweak a few of our old hubs and delete a few comments, especially if they are over a year old, thats what I am going to do, thanks for reading, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Cardisa, thats it exactly. Its the HP related links system that may cause trouble, and did you notice any ebay ones too? thanks!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi tillsontitan, I will go and take a look, thanks for helping, I am still a bit puzzled by the whole thing myself! lol!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Linda, yep google definitely is a bit stilted to say the least! lol! thanks as always, nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi jaybird, thanks so much. If its a bit confusing then I hope you got the general gist of the idea, there was so much info about it I had to try and keep it to a minimum, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks so much denise, I am glad you found it helpful, nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Diana, yes we can't be expected to write something interesting and then google say its a no no! lol! its fine if its just a few words or phrase, I think the trouble is if we find loads of problems, thanks again for reading, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Hilary, I will have two sugars and milk in my tea please! lol! thanks for reading, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi angela, lol! sorry! thanks for giving it a go, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Sue, yes Big Brother is getting worse I think! lol! I have been on here for nearly three years and still get confused! lol! thanks!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Martie, I'll send you over the tea, would you like it in a pot? haha! thanks as always, nell


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Lilleyth 4 years ago from Mid-Atlantic

Gosh Nell, I'm so frustrated with all this stuff. Thank you for the very precise and clear information.


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Lilleyth, yes its a case of learning one thing then discovering another! lol! thanks for reading, cheers nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi tillsontitan, I found it! it was a question in the question and answers!


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LillyGrillzit 4 years ago from The River Valley, Arkansas

Dear Nell, thank you so much for publishing this Hub, and for all of the hard work that has gone in to it; and for all of the hard work you continue to do. I found 16 questionable links. More to do. Thanks once again.


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tammyswallow 4 years ago from North Carolina

Wow.. this is a very indepth explanation. I am going to check it out and I will let you know what it comes up with. This is a great find and can many of us.


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Marisa Wright 4 years ago from Sydney

Nell, do you notice that the four EXPERIENCED Hubbers who've commented on this Hub have told you the tool is misleading, it gives false positives, and is causing unnecessary worry. Unfortunately our comments are lost in the large number of less experienced Hubbers, who've read the Hub and are now going to waste time focussing on the wrong things. I really do hope you'll reflect on that and perhaps contact one of our resident gurus like Sunforged to confirm whether you are really giving good advice.


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Lily, thanks for reading, it seems my hard work is just completely wrong by a so called Expert! even though I read it on the web by SEO experts, even though they warn us about it, it seems this hub is a waste of time, so thank you so much but I may as well delete it!

Hi tammy, As you can see the Expert below you says its bunkum so its best to ignore it! seems she knows everything!


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mary615 4 years ago from Florida

I had a couple of Hubbers I was following until they began to write adult themed Hubs. I didn't comment on them (now I'm glad I didn't), and then I unfollowed them. I just don't understand all this stuff, and probably never will. I just now that common sense usually is the best route.


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi mary, thats it exactly. I think there will always be something that we miss, but as I said in this hub if I am wrong about it let me know, but even in the video it says to use the tool, so thats why I gave it a try, thanks so much for reading, nell


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Lissie 4 years ago from New Zealand

Guys - THESE ARE GENERALLY FALSE POSITIVES - its picking up individual words like "drugs" and "nude" and assuming that the site is a porn or illegal - that's not the case!


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Angela Blair 4 years ago from Central Texas

Nell Rose -- super informative Hub and thanks so very much. Like Mary 615 if content becomes adult, etc. I just don't comment and unfollow. I also don't understand much of the stuff so just try to apply a bit of common sense and keep trudging forward. It's folks like you that are so helpful to folks like me! Best/Sis


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Lissie, I do appreciate you coming back, as I said in my hub it was something that I read about, and tried out. If they are false positives then fine, but my point is, if it is picking up on them even though it means nothing, whos to say that google isn't doing the same thing? If I am wrong I will hold my hands up, but as I said it was other sites that were talking about this, thats why I tried it in the first place, and the video above mentions it too. Thanks for your input, its one of those things we can try, and if it helps then fine, if not at least it was an exercise in seeing how or why it does it. Do you know of any site that says its wrong? I would appreciate it if you could let us know, thanks.


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks Angela, it seems that all the info that I have read on the internet, and the videos about it are wrong, but I only wrote what I believed to be right. We will all have decide but thanks for reading, nell


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Lissie 4 years ago from New Zealand

*sigh* its not for me to prove that your unfounded theory is right - that's your problem! Have you noticed any improvement in your search rankings since you implemented this strategy?

Google will never tell what works or does not work. That's why you need to do your own tests.

My point is that the Internet is full of unfounded theories on SEO, and hubpages in particular. Please don't add to the noise - because its massively confusing for the beginners.


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Sunshine625 4 years ago from Orlando, FL

I'm back again to share this awesome link!! What would we do without you Nell Rose. You are a ROCK STAR!!:)


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks Linda, you are a Mega Star! lol!


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Daisy Mariposa 4 years ago from Orange County (Southern California)

Nell,

Thanks for presenting this information.

If someone doesn't agree with the results after using the software tools you mention, they should complain to the people who wrote the programs, not to you.

You wrote the Hub, not the software.


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks Daisy, I just wrote what I believed was true, as so many others on the net have tried it. It certainly shows up some interesting link info, whether it can be helpful or not is up to the individual to try it, if it doesn't make a difference then at least we tried. And lets face it, how many other SEO articles on the internet actually do make a difference? maybe a few, or maybe not, who knows how google works! lol! thanks again, nell


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Sherry Hewins 4 years ago from Sierra Foothills, CA

I tried that bad neighborhood tool, it was an interesting experiment. I had 12 "bad" links out of about 3500. Almost all were from HubPages and included words like "Adult" or "Sex" or "Drugs" but they seemed like fairly innocent uses of these words, nothing pornographic or advocating drug use. I really hope that Google is not penalizing us for linking to sites like these. In any case, I'm going to sit tight with my links for now. Thanks for the info though.


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Sherry, according to some Experts google won't jump on these, but if nothing else it shows how the linking is, even at a deep level, thanks so much for reading, cheers nell


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Marcy Goodfleisch 4 years ago from Planet Earth

This is really Interesting, Nell, and it should at least be looked into further. When HP announced that we could add the Answers we post (meaning, the Questions) to our subdomains, I wondered what that might do to our rankings based on the content of the posts. I haven't yet gotten an answer, and quite possibly nobody knows yet, but the info here suggests there could eventually be an impact of some sort.

I will watch and wait!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Marcy, thanks for reading. Yes each link may have a good or bad effect. I have noticed when I look up my name in google I find so many links that I never realised were there or how they got linked. They weren't linked deliberately but just seemed to do it automatically through hubpages, so yes we will see, thanks so much, nell


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skye2day 4 years ago from Rocky Mountains

Nell rose WOW Thank you so much for taking the time to share your news and findings. This could help a host of hubbers and others. I don't quite 'get it' but I am into checking it out, girl. I have bookmarked, up and awesome sister.

Linked Out (-; Just had to throw that in. I did fb and twitter. Hugs to you, Nell Rose


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Ruchira 4 years ago from United States

wow Nell. I had no clue that such a link existed.

All the above was new to me, frankly speaking. So, thanks for the enlightening hub. voted up and sharing it across.


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ThoughtSandwiches 4 years ago from Reno, Nevada

Nell,

You are the one I come to for all my important info and this kind of article is the reason! Awesome job...Voting Up and sharing!

Thomas


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Greekgeek 4 years ago from California

This tool is very old; I recognize it from at least five years ago. It doesn't work, and it has nothing to do with Google. You need to make clear to people that this is NOT going to tell them anything about what Google considers a "bad neighborhood", and in fact, what this tool flags as a bad neighborhood may be very highly-rated by Google!

For example, I just tested it on my own website, and sure enough, this tool flags my site as a bad neighborhood based on a few vocabulary words, even though my website gets upward of 10,000 visitors a week (not all from Google, but mostly).

Here's one of the links it flagged as a "Bad Neighborhood" link:

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Questionable:

Found on: www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=dung-beetle-dance

URL: http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id...

Anchor text: Google Is My Pilot: Nevada Gambles on Self-Driving Cars

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That's right, it thinks Scientific American is a bad neighborhood on the basis that *one* article of all the thousands on the website contains the word "gambling" -- an article, which, incidentally, is reporting on some of Google's cool technology!

Google, of course, would consider that a GOOD neighborhood, not just because of the free PR to Google, but because Scientific American is an outstanding site. Scientific American has a pagerank of 8, which is nearly as high as Google's own pagerank (10).

This tool also flagged a link to Amazon as a link to a bad neighborhood. Considering the number of Amazon results that turn up at the top of searches, and considering that Amazon has a whopping pagerank of 9, it's safe to say that this tool knows absolutely nothing about what Google considers a bad neighborhood.

Besides, this link checker is years out of date. It knows nothing about recent Google algorithm changes.

Even back when it was created, this tool use a fundamentally flawed method to guess at bad neighborhoods: it's arbitrarily decided that certain words = bad neighborhood. Google, however, doesn't work that way. Google is sophisticated enough to understand that a Scientific American article about a self-driving car is NOT an illegal gambling site... nor is your hub, just because I used the word "Gambling."

I'm afraid that if you want to understand why a webpage is dropping in Google listings, you're going to have to follow current search engine news, and become more familiar with how search engines work. This tool can't help, and might even be harmful if you took its advice seriously. (E.G. if I deleted the link to Scientific American, I would be removing something that Google would see as a sign that my article is *reputable*, based on good sources.)

Here's an alternative that may actually help: keep up with searchengineland.com, which gives us regular and easy-to-understand digests of every Google algorithm change. If you can get a basic understanding of how search engines work, you'll be able to figure out what's effective and what's not, and you won't be stuck using tools that are going to be obsolete after the next algorithm change.


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prasetio30 4 years ago from malang-indonesia

I little confuse with this after I guide my student a final examination as the requirement to enter the Junior High School. My hub traffic drop down until 70%. I should hard work to raise my traffic back. It's happened after google penguin update. Thank you very much. Success for you!

Prasetio


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Greekgeek. Thank You! Now this is the information that I asked for when I wrote the hub, as you can see above I actually said, can someone tell me if this is real or not? I appreciate you explaining it to me in a way that we can all understand. The reason why I wrote this in the first place was because I came across the video that was this years, talking about it. I then looked into the web to see who was talking about it, and they all said it was a positive thing. Thats all I wanted to know, and I am grateful for the way you have explained it. There are many hubs about this sort of thing, and I have no idea why the spitting started on this one particularly, I was actually only trying to help. I read a hub a few days ago that was full of wrongs but nobody jumped on it like this! lol! something I said? haha! thanks so much and much appreciated nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Greekgeek just came back to say I have put a link to your hubs above, and thanks!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks pras, thats such a shame that yours dropped too. I think we all got hit a bit, good luck with the students exam, I hope he passes! and thanks!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks skye, not sure if its really useful but its a good thing to take a look at. I did mention in the hub that if anybody knows anything about it to let me know, so we shall see, thanks so much for the votes etc, nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks so much Ruchira, even if its not much use it does give us an idea of what links maybe attached, nell


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks Thomas, I loved your hub, I am still laughing today! lol!


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Vinaya Ghimire 4 years ago from Nepal

Useful and informative. I'm not a technical kind of person but you have written about the internet jargon in simple words.


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thank you Vinaya, I am glad you liked it, cheers nell


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rajan jolly 4 years ago from From Mumbai, presently in Jalandhar,INDIA.

Nell, this is both interesting and confusing. Never been good at SEO and now it seems even backlinking and commenting can get one into trouble. I'm going to run this tool and see what I get.

Bookmarking such useful information and have to read it again.

Voted up and pushed all the ones except the funny. Shared it too.

Voted up, useful interesting and awesome

Thanks for sharing.


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ChristinS 4 years ago from Midwest

This was a great tool you highlighted. I googled it and used it and to my delight I found my websites/hubs are all in good standing :) was worried when I saw my adsense earnings drop temporarily during the latest updates, and pleasantly surprised to see my earnings now higher than ever the past few days. Great tool - thanks for sharing it!


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Kaili Bisson 4 years ago from Canada

Thank you Nell. I am new to all of this, so not earning yet but want to understand how to optimize my hubs. I have some work to do :-)


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks

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Christin

Kaili, glad you liked it, whether it is relevant or not to how google works is up for debate, but I thought it might be interesting to find out, thanks for reading, cheers nell


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Paul Kuehn 4 years ago from Udorn City, Thailand

Nell,

Thanks for the interesting eye-opening information. I will try out the tool to check my hubs.


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Paul, thanks for reading, and I am glad you found it helpful, thanks!


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snigdha.s 4 years ago from India,mumbai

Nell your Hubs are always so informative.I used to check my links by adding#to the url of my hub and also adding s to http i.e https but this Hub was an eye opener.For the past 3 months my adsense revenue has dropped and i guess this must be one reason besides the hubpages ad program. Thanks once again


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi snigdha, that sounds like a great idea! never thought of that! lol! yes my google has disappeared too, mind you I tend to prefer the Hubpage ads and payment its much more convinient and better paid, thanks for reading, cheers nell


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Jackie Lynnley 4 years ago from The Beautiful South

Oh lordy....I think I will come back and try to figure it all out tomorrow, but thanks for the alert!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Jackie, sorry didn't see you there! lol! thanks for reading, nell


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misshill 4 years ago from United States

Interesting and useful information, thanks you for the information.


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi misshill, thanks so much for reading, cheers nell


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thelyricwriter 4 years ago from West Virginia

Nell, great article! I never knew this. I have a ton of links myself, but my stats have decreased by 50%. I took a hard hit. Since Mid-End April, it has been hard to keep my views from dropping. Most of my links are from Hubpages, however, I do have a links on other sites. Appreciate the great advice.


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi lyric, its one of those things that I did look into, there are so many reasons why we drop like a stone, I have too, hope it helps, its driving me mad though, because when I check I notice that some of my top hubs have been copied so many times it makes mine go down to page 10! The trouble is, they put my link on their page, but they then go on to writing or copying the whole thing anyway! some people have said this means nothing, but its one of those things that I like to try, and if by any chance it does make a difference then great, if not at least I had a go, thanks so much for reading, cheers nell


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Coolmon2009 4 years ago from Texas, USA

Good article and useful information, I will use the link checker to check my profile.


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks Coolmon, glad you found it helpful, in the least it does show a few anomalies, thanks!


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Mekenzie 4 years ago from Michigan

Nell, you have just taught me something new to help with my hubpages. I ran my site through the website you recommended. In the process I saw one of my hubs had an inappropriate book from Amazon listed. Have NO clue what the world is there but you bet I'm headed there next to boot it off.

I found 5 hubbers considered to be in a bad neighborhood. Rather than delete all of the comments, I'm wondering if there would be a way to delete only these 5 hubbers comments. What do you think?

There is always something to learn and I so appreciate your informative hub. Voted Up and Awesome!

Mekenzie


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Mekenzie, a lot of people who commented said this was a bad idea and didn't mean anything, but I feel that maybe its good to try and get rid of a few bad links, but don't go mad just in case, okay? thanks for reading, cheers nell


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Wayne Brown 4 years ago from Texas

Nell, I did try the Neighborhood Tool and found six "questionable links" over a 40 hub scan after checking over 4,000 links. None of them appear malicious and are related to other hubbers on the site...some who are followers. The problem with the tool is that it really does not direct one to the particular site where the link has taken place thus what can you do about it even if it is malicious? There is always someone out there interested in doing harm or profiting off the suffering of others. Thanks for heads up and let me know if you find a cure. WB


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Wayne, yes I know what you mean, its great for showing you, but whats the point if you can't do a darn thing about it? lol! Oh well never mind at least it was an interesting tool to check out, thanks so much for reading, and its great to see you, nell


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molometer 4 years ago

Hello Nell,

It is always useful to hear of these tools. Social sharing seems to be the way to go. If an article is good. It gets shared. Like this one will. Bad links? who decides which is which? Very tricky.

Michael


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks michael, I am still not sure about this link thing, but its a good idea to keep an eye on it, thanks for reading, cheers nell


iamaudraleigh 4 years ago

I am glad you wrote this Nell...all of this is overwhelming to me! Very useful info indeed!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi audra, thanks so much. It was more of a wonder if... type thing, still not sure if it means much but it was interesting, thanks!


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Docmo 4 years ago from UK

thanks for the tips Nell. I am clueless when it comes to SEO. I just take what I'm given in terms of page views maybe I should be a bit more savvy!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Docmo, lol! thats me most of the time too! glad you liked it and thanks!


iamaudraleigh 4 years ago

It means alot Nell!


kelleyward 4 years ago

Nell, I'm so confused. I ran mine and found 13 bad links just what you said here. Have you found out if there is anything we can do about this? Thanks, Kelley


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks Audra!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi kelley, I just got rid of the ones that I was linked too, but to be honest I don't think there is a lot you can do about the ones that are linked to us. I have also noticed that some of my hubs in the search engines have actually gone missing! but the people who have plagiarised them are still there!


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PurvisBobbi44 4 years ago from Florida

Nell Rose,

Thanks for this great information---I am going to check my out now.

I always try to support the Hubbers who read my hubs by visiting and reading their hubs.

And I was lucky to find this one.

Thanks,

Have a great Sunday,

Bobbi Purvis


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PurvisBobbi44 4 years ago from Florida

Nell Rose,

I have checked each of my hubs and found nothing. But I did when I input www.PurvisBobbi44.hubpages.com. I used that because I could not find a Profile Page Url. There is something wrong with my page or me. I don't want to vote on which one.

How did you obtain your Profile Page Url. I use IE maybe that is it.

If you have time please advise me.

Thanks a bunch,

Bobbi Purvis


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Bobbi, I think it may be because you wrote in www. I remember seeing this question on the forums ages ago, it seems that because we are sub domains the www. doesn't work. if you just put in PurvisBobbi etc then it should come up, okay? thanks so much for reading, nell


jualrumah 3 years ago

Google algorithm change is sometimes unpredictable


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Nell Rose 3 years ago from England Author

Thanks jualrumah, glad you liked it, nell


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Glenn Stok 3 years ago from Long Island, NY

As GreekGeek pointed out in her comment above, the Bad Neighborhood Link Checker is old and doesn't really provide any information that is consistent with what Google considers to be a bad neighborhood.

However, there are things I do with my hubs...

First of all, I refuse any comments that link to another site unless it's a known site that is a resource for useful information.

I also review old comments from time to time and I delete those that link back to a Hubber who is no longer here. That way I avoid dead links, which I feel may also cause problems with ranking. Dead links indicate that a web page is out if date and is not being maintained. I suspect that Google may use that as a reason to lower ranking.

As for bad neighborhoods, Google has a tool in the Webmaster Tools that can be used to disavow any inbound links you feel may be hurting you.


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Nell Rose 3 years ago from England Author

Thanks Glenn, its a good idea to go back and check the old links, thankfully hubpages do have that on the account page, I have a couple that need doing, thanks so much for reading, nell


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LouCannon 23 months ago from Wynndel BC Canada

Such a helpful hub! Thank you so much!!!


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Nell Rose 23 months ago from England Author

Thanks Lou, glad you liked it, nell

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