Have I got it wrong?

Although my achievements have attracted great hubscores I feel as though I am omitting some crucial factor. This is worrying me a little bit and would appreciate some constructive feedback. I thank everyone that has visited my hubs and your feedback has been brilliant .

Looking through 'my computer' ,there hiding in a folder was an article that related to tweaking sites and in particular testing the headings, Do you think that this could work? Lets explore the idea!

To date I have published 16 hubs although one of them has been deleted ne'er to be seen again, personally thought the hub was just a tad blunt and could have been construed as disrespectful:

'I travelled back in time today' gives an account of reading the tea leaves, maybe an alternative title , Tea leaf reading for beginners would give me increased traffic results.Nah, this is my 16th hub and the traffic to this hub has not increased ,so now I will try adding more content

'A time for quiet thought and reflection' makes reference to Dickens who delivered a descriptive, emotional piece of text that aptley describes the feelings of inner thought. Dickens and Me .Would this work? maybe an increase of content and further Dickens references could help.

Yep, I will try this , you never know.

At the time of writing, 'kids are only human ' has received only one comment, major revamp needed I feel.OK change the title, Love your Kids and add more content, here goes -

Have written this hub purely to gain some constructive critisism [your grossness] maybe all you hubbers can help, these three hubs mentioned are the earlier ones and perhaps non experience contributed to their ultimate demise from favour. If this the case ,as all other hubs are doing well, I thank you, perhaps learning from them is the answer, Learning and not fretting.

Heck , I have just noticed the blue triangle against, 'Girls - The best day of your life?' come on ,only three guesses before I can add more content. Please.pretty please help me get rid of the triangle boohoo!




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Ralph Deeds profile image

Ralph Deeds 7 years ago

I'd like to know the answers to the questions you raise.


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

So would I Ralph, I don't think there is any one answer, would be great if there was.


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Silver Freak 7 years ago from The state of confusion

How about this for a title: The Evolution of the Hub and the Hub Score.

Just think how many keywords you could tie into that concept! LOL!


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

Silver Freak, thats brilliant, it would be a gold mine

sophieqd ,thanks for calling in.


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Teresa McGurk 7 years ago from The Other Bangor

Man, I don't pay enough attention to titles -- I guess I should see what I could revise. But deep down, I have the sneaking suspicion that I don't really mind whether I get increased traffic, if the people who do come by like what they read. Hmmm. Thanks -- you've given me something to ponder.


Whikat 7 years ago

HI, hawkesdream, I think this is a great post. Hey, If you don't mind taking a little suggestion from an amateur I would like to say that "Love your kids" is a nice title, but your first line, "How to deal with children's temper tantrums?" would be a great title. I bet a lot of people search the Internet looking for ways to help them deal with temper tantrums. Just a suggestion from an amateur. :)


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goldentoad 7 years ago from Free and running....

I'm the wrong person to ask, I don't know how this place works yet. sorry. I don't think titles mean anything, I had one called "unrhymin' toad gold jambalaya" and it had no recipes in it but it did alright at the time.


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

Hi Teresa, Maybe I am a bit vain, or even just liking the company which is more likely. I love the feeling that I get when people read what i write, love what I write and then to honor me with comments. I love the banter and the community within hubpages.


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

Whikat, that is a good title , If 'Love your Kids' doesn't do it ,I will surely try it.

Hey Golden Toad, you are exactly the person to ask, you do so well on here, I thought you were a veteran until I saw your profile. Just, think about it, Are you selective about the e-mails you open? It's the headline that grabs you, gotta be something to it.


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Tom Rubenoff 7 years ago from United States

I had a hub with the word, "sex" in the title and it got twice the traffic of any of my other hubs :) it also got flagged ):


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goldentoad 7 years ago from Free and running....

No its the person really that gets my attention, but I appreciate if they tell me ahead of time on the title what its going to be about, but I am more likely to read the ones I know are more of a personal nature, so if they say "Cures for Acid Reflux", I pass and wait for the one that says "I'm having a worse day than you".


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

Hi Tom, Do you think that is what I should do? 'S**y tea leaf reading'..S*x Dickens and Me , well it's not a good idea with the third one is it?lol haha

Golden Toad, there see you are selective, I am sure that there is something we don't know about.


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

Got the picture ,Tom..will do better next time. haha lol


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JamaGenee 7 years ago from Central Oklahoma

Hawkesdream, as little as I know about how things work here, a hub's score is partly based on the number of words in it.  I'm told 1800-2000 words is optimum.  A few hundred words less and the HP algorithm subtracts points.  Same for a hub longer that 2000 words. But who knows for sure? 

Personally, when the email notification arrives, I look at who wrote it, then the title.  Some of my favorite hubbers write on a variety of subjects and if the latest hub doesn't happen to be a subject that interests me, I at least visit long enough to hit "Thumbs Up".   Common courtesy.


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Rochelle Frank 7 years ago from California Gold Country

Hoo boy, JamaGenee. Now I gotta go back and check the word count on 80 some hubs... as well as add 'sex' to the titles.


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

Thanks JamaGenee, I didn't know that word count = hubscore. I think the title does have an impact on whether someone visits sooner rather than later and thanks also for the "Thumbs Up" comment. How do we know whether this has happened?

Sorry if I appear a little dense on this.

Hello Rochelle Frank, think I might count mine too, Envy your 80 hubs but not the counting. How many of your hubs could take a sex reference in the title?lol


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LondonGirl 7 years ago from London

As I've gone on, I think my hubs have improved.

The key, I think, is not only good writing, but to make is a rounded multi-media effort. Photos, videos, links, etc, all tied into the text and woven through it. I reckon that makes for a more interesting hub.

My early ones were just, say, 700-odd words and maybe a photo and a link.

My more recent ones are 3,000 - 4,000 words, 10 to 20 photos, 4 or 5 videos, news capsules (when the damn things work, obviously....) and lots of good, relevant links.


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

Thanks London girl ,thats a great help. I do have a problem though, and that is I haven't yet worked out all the capsules, would love to be able to put pictures throughout text, Maybe I'm a bit dense or maybe just making it too difficult and can't see it. HEEEEEEEELP!


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine

Hawkesdream you just add in more photo capsules and then move them up, down or to the side. I'm not sure how you get extra ones in though...


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

Thanks Cindy, told you I was having a dense time. Will definetly try it and keep you informed.


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LondonGirl 7 years ago from London

Hi - you can have lots of photo, text, and links capsules. And it is much easier if you do have them. You can put all bar the text ones to be on the right-hand side, so that text has stuff next to it.

In my latest hub, the Blitz one, I think I've got about 16 text capsules.

Have a look at this screenshot I did for someone else to show how I arranged them:

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/12219#post146411


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

London Girl, checked out the forum , am gonna give it a go on next hub! Cheers


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Dolores Monet 7 years ago from East Coast, United States

Hawkesdream I wish I could say I could give you suggestions. I really came hear to read the answers to your question down here in the comments. But what are you complaining about, you've been here for 5 weeks and you have a personal score of 93! Sounds good to me!


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

Oh ,no Dolores ,I am not complaining ,I am searching and learning. I was wondering why some hubs attracted more attention than others. It seems that other hubbers have also wondered this, maybe here and collectively we might find a clear and decisive answer.


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Elena. 7 years ago from Madrid

Interesting hub, Hawkesdream. I don't know that I pay a lot of attention to titles, more to authors, when it comes to the email notifications. BUT if I'm looking at Hubtivity, then I think titles do have something to do with my clickling.


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

Exactly, Elena, I think you have made a good point there.


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine

I must admit though, I don't click on all the hubs in the email notifications even if they're by authors I like. I look at the title and if that grabs my attention, I'll click on it


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

So in your opinion Cindy, the title or headline is the key.


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine

I think so, if it doesn't grab me, then I don't click on it. The same when the posts and comments come up on that Hubtivity thingie. Have just done a hub now with a potentially boring title. It's an experiment. Not sure if I'll get any clicks on that, but am thinking that the boring title might work better with Reddit and Digg. Mmmmm, we'll see.


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

I will keep a lookout for it.


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine

haha it's been posted for about two hours now and not one person has looked at it which proves our theory, the title does matter


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Hawkesdream 7 years ago from Cornwall Author

Ha Ha got you ,you have two posts including mine, but I do agree you , a really impressive title goes a long way to achieve the results.


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine

Yep, oh well, will leave it and see what it delivers


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Hawkesdream 4 years ago from Cornwall Author

I have been away from hubpages, as an active member, for some time. I have returned and clicked on this hub to view my train of thought at the time of activity. I think your title suggestion is brilliant and would like to use it now.

Time has passed so revamping my current hubs and recording the results will be a great exercise. Thanks Silver Freak for this idea.

I am assuming it is still OK to use it, Is it?


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Hawkesdream 4 years ago from Cornwall Author

A great suggestion here Whikat, I will implement your idea. Thanks

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