How to Drastically Improve Traffic and Earnings On Hubpages Successfully!

Yes, it's a photo of me! Hello everyone!
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An Introduction

Hello everyone! My name is Krystal, and I would like to let you all know that this is the method that is working for me. It's trial and error, you must be able to practice and try again should you fail. You must also have patience- sometimes, it can take 4-6 weeks for your efforts to show some promising rewards. I have been using this method for about 4 months, but have spent hardly any time on here- I try to get 3 hubs a month out, but it's not been happening. If I actually wrote one a day, I honestly couldn't tell you how amazing my earnings would be!!

I was at one point mocked and snidely remarked in the forums for trying to offer help to someone who was struggling- I tried to give them a bit of my knowledge. Little do they know, they were in the wrong for bashing me! Of course, I quit offering assistance in the forums, due to the fact that if my help was deemed unworthy, what was the sense, right??? Well, I decided to change that. There's so many AMAZING members here who deserve it!!! I may write more of these to come, I'm not sure. It just depends on the response that follows.

Anyway, here goes my hatchling journey- and some steps with it! You can join the Hubpages Writers United Group on Facebook which I just created in case anyone decides they need to contact me. Mind you, I've not gotten TOO far yet, but I know many would consider this a success that has not been achieved by many. I will have earned plenty enough for a withdrawal for the first time once the month clears; and I'm excited to see how my traffic & earnings grow in the future.

Account Started 3 Years Ago; Did Not Commit Until June 2013, Traffic/Hubs Minimal Before Then!

Month
Approx Earnings
Approx Traffic (Google Analytics)
June
N/A
444
July
$1.50
753
August
$5
2,434
September
$18
4,614
October
$37
8,220
Write about passions in order to maintain interest in the subject.
Write about passions in order to maintain interest in the subject. | Source

#1 Write About Your Passions

This is a "go figure" type of thing. The bottom line is, you should write about things that INTEREST you! For the truly versatile and talented writers, you can probably write about anything passionately- meaning my method will really do you some wonders. Since this is all about keywords and providing information, the more niches you can write about, the more you can succeed.

How Much Traffic Do You See Per Month?

  • Under 100
  • 101-500
  • 501-1,200
  • 1,201-5,000
  • 5,001-15,000
  • 15,001-50,000
  • 50,001-100,000
  • 100,001+
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Check out the traffic light tree! Green means GO!
Check out the traffic light tree! Green means GO! | Source

#2 Keywords

Your keywords are everything. This entire article will be set at "beginner" level; so that you CAN see results, and scale up from there as you fine tune your skills. If you try to take on a big dog too early, you will probably not succeed, feel discouraged, then dismiss such a lesson as too hard or impossible. Just, DON'T DO IT. Trust me when I say go small!

For your first keyword, it should be something that is between 3-6 words. Go to the Google Keyword Planner and type in a phrase. Look at the different variations that it provides, as well as related keywords. The competition should be LOW (You are NOT an advertiser people! High competition is for THE BID for the ADVERTISER. The tool was NOT built for SEO, that's just what many use it for! Hence why it is located within AdWords! Now that I got that out of my system....), which means you will have fewer people to compete with to rank in the search engines.

You want at least 100 searches a month- but you may find them in the neighborhood of 500 easily. You need to get a keyword with enough searches to be profitable to write about, but you will notice the number of results in the search engine goes up with the amount of searches per month. You need to find a good balance! AND, AN EVERGREEN KEYWORD. No holidays people. No seasons. You want steady traffic, not seasonal blips. And yes, I know I have seasonals; I have some strange hubs. Some are experimental and proving to be good ones! Thinking outside of the box is GOOD! :)

Now? You need to check your keyword's number of results in google. The table belows you shows what you should be looking for. These numbers are actually really high, you want them as low as possible.

Checking the Numbers in Google Search

Your Keyword
"Your Keyword"
Inurl:"Your Keyword"
Under 1,000,000
Under 1,000,000
Under 500,000
 
 
 
 
 
 
Intitle:"Your Keyword"
InTitle:"your keyword" inurl:"your keyword"
 
Under 500,000
Under 250,000
 

How Many Hubs Do You Have?

  • < 5
  • 6-25
  • 26-50
  • 51-100
  • 101-200
  • 201-350
  • 351-500
  • > 501
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#3 The Hub

Is it under 800 words? Are you KIDDING me? Don't play around like that. If you're going to start off with doing a bad job, then this isn't the hub for ya to learn from! No offense everyone, but your hubs should be at least 900 words, preferably 1,000. Google wants LONG content. Don't try to tell me, "well, uhhh, I ran out of words. I can't keep it flowing. Blah Blah." That simply IS NOT true guys! Write about the topics history, it's problems, its solutions, its environment, uses and benefits, why it's a bad idea, why its a good idea, how it's made, where it's made, customs across the world, strange facts, energy use, your opinion on each of these, what others' opinions are, I mean... there's so much you CAN write about!!! Don't confine yourself to some box. Let those wheels turn! Get Creative!


"What now?" you ask? Interaction! Visual stimulation! Now, I know that not every one of my hubs follows this (I have my reasons c:) but this should be a standard for you to follow, stars optional:

  • 2 polls
  • **ATTEMPT 1 map
  • 5 or more photos
  • at least 2 closely related Youtube videos
  • **NO AMAZON/EBAY (If you want to follow my example here, this is up to you)

This Is What Happens When You Write for the People!

This is my traffic. Notice the orange boxes- these are the search engines. That is the majority of my traffic- SEARCH! :)
This is my traffic. Notice the orange boxes- these are the search engines. That is the majority of my traffic- SEARCH! :) | Source
Keywords are going to be what drives your traffic.
Keywords are going to be what drives your traffic. | Source

#4 Optimizing Keywords

You don't only need to have a keyword, but your article needs to show it. Your keyword should be in the title, in the first paragraph, and once or twice more throughout the article (Never the last paragraph!). Use several variations of the keyword and its related keywords. don't heavily use them, however. This will punish you. Leave the density (including related words) at 7% or less. Your exact keyword should be less than 0.05%. These are just my personal tips, and they work for me. What are related phrases? Check the table below.

Different Keyword Variations

Exact Keyword
Washing My Blue Car
Variations of Phrase
How to wash my blue car, getting my blue car washed, where to wash a blue car, how to bathe a blue suv, washing blue vans
Related Words
Bathe, wash, bath, car, van, truck, suv, light blue, dark blue, navy, soap, carwash, etc
 
 
Social Media Sites, learn to communicate with the world!
Social Media Sites, learn to communicate with the world! | Source

#5 LIGHT Promotion/SEO

Do not be a greedy person. Do not be a spammer. Do some light promoting of your hub. You could fetch Google penalties if you overdo it. So please- for your sake and the sake of others at Hubpages or social networks (and your Facebook friends!) don't become an annoying spammer. Hubpages already has a great reputation, now that the Penguins and Pandas already launched assaults and we've underwent a successful recovery. Here's a good way to promote:

  1. 1 Link on Facebook Update
  2. Pin Photos to Pinterest
  3. 1 Bookmark Each with Digg, StumbleUpon, etc.
  4. Post A Single Blog Post Summarizing It
  5. Share a Single Tweet
  6. Share with Your Facebook Fanpage
  7. Email Signature Link
  8. Forum Signature Link
  9. Ask 3-5 Friends to Share
  10. WAIT!

How to Gain Pinterest Followers

Patience is a Virtue!
Patience is a Virtue! | Source

#6 PATIENCE.

Be patient. Wait for the hub to slowly rank as it should. It WILL take time. Don't feel discouraged because many times it could take up to 6 weeks for a hub to hit big. My most popular one (currently 200-350 hits per day, weekends higher) took 4 weeks to get a steady 5-10 visits per day; it's been about 3+ months since posting it, and haven't really done any more seo for it. However, it is on page one for several low search volume keywords, hanging out in the middle of the page; for higher volume keywords, it's within 12 pages. With some SEO, I could see a huge surge in traffic. However, I want it to do it naturally :) Give it time guys! You'll see!

#5 Pay It Forward! Help Each Other!

View other hubs when you have time. Did you like it? Use the Facebook like button then hit "Share", hit the Tweet button and use keyword related hashtags for them, and pin 2 of their photos that you think are the most appealing to Pinterest. Do you not use one of them? DO IT! Get legitimate followers! It really helps your traffic and SEO when they see and repost your stuff guys! All of this takes maybe 1 minute's worth of time when you have a little visiting ritual. I promise! And, it makes a world of difference to that hubber!


Share your experiences in the comment section! Again, if you'd like to speak with me directly, my group can be found in the first text box, bottom paragraph.

Reach the top, and help those who are falling behind!
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Anna Haven profile image

Anna Haven 3 years ago from Scotland

Useful and interesting. Your enthusiasm and spirit comes through really well in your writing. Success stories are good to read :)


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Thank you Anna! I just would like to see more people achieve something than groan about putting in effort for nothing. Everyone always needs some sort of guidance- It just varies as to who is going to truly use it/appreciate it, and who is going to be hateful because they've put no effort into applying multiple methods. I believe in trying, trying, trying!


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Whidbeywriter 3 years ago from Oak Harbor on Whidbey Island, Washington

Great tips and information. I have been on hubpages for a bit and need more ways to get my hubs exposed, thanks and best of luck, I know you will do great here! Will now be a follower....:-)


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Thanks Whidbey! I really do hope all of this information helps you, I know it is excessively frustrating trying to earn a dime from content through adsense and ad programs no matter where you are- few know that hubpages really is one of the best platforms because of the rank it already feeds you!


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Dreamhowl 3 years ago from United States of America

That's some good advice on using alternate keywords, I'm sure it would help out my hubs a lot. Voted up and shared.


sheilamyers 3 years ago

Thanks for the great tips. I use some of them and will try to work at the others. When it comes to word count, it's never a problem for me to hit HP's goal of 1250. In fact, if I didn't stop myself, I'd probably have books instead of hubs. I cut some things back because I'm always afraid if I make a hub too long some people will lose interest even if they enjoy the topic.


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Thanks Dream! People have not realized justttt how smart Google is getting; and it's much like us now. It thinks about the content as a whole, even down to the captions of photos and videos, engagement, and word choice. If there are tons of synonyms used the way people use them, videos and photos captioned similarly, and a high engagement, Big G knows that it's exactly what a wide audience is looking for! My only problem currently is my bounce rate. I don't know if it is because of people finding ideas/answers and hitting the back button to see others, or if it's because they're not finding exactly what they need. I'm currently looking into it and trying to get an awesome solution in line, once I do I will have to share it as well. If I can funnel the traffic instead of the viewers hitting the back button, that's a lot more eyes for other hubs!


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billybuc 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

I was interested in seeing what you had to say. Good suggestions for anyone interested in increasing traffic. I've done alright for myself here and I am somewhat of an oddity on HP. I don't do keyword searches and I don't care about SEO. I just write from the heart and stay active on social sites....having said that, your suggestions are right on and will net results for most writers. Patience is very important. I had several hubs that had been dormant just suddenly take off last month and now are getting hundreds of views daily on them. I just had to wait patiently until the filtered through the internet.

Anyway, enough babbling from me....good job!


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Sheila, I'm actually the same way. I think this hub hit around 1,500, probably more! Then again I had a lot to say haha. All of this really isn't hard to do/incorporate, I think intimidation is what stops people usually.

Billy, thank you for your words! I have seen you all over the place here, definitely not a strange face. Isn't it amazing how some of them just ramp up and go a bit viral??? Especially the first few viral episodes... Makes you want to celebrate!


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Just starting my second hub, and this was SOOOO helpful. I have to admit I have an SEO background, but like billybuc, completely ignore the whole SEO thing here. Even when I was working, I found all the analyzing simply confirmed good old common sense. You're talking about what you're talking about. Thanks for sharing your insights!


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moonlake 3 years ago from America

Sounds like your doing very well on here, that is great. All your information is right on. Voted up.


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Organised Kaos 3 years ago from Hobart, Tasmania ~ Australia.(The little bit broken off the bottom of AUS)

Nice work. Information noted, thanks for having rare information on the keyword planner as apposed to the keyword tool!


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Egamboa- I was doing the same for a while, just to see where things would settle. Turned out- hubpages does a lot of the work for you already! It's so easy to get things to rank as long as you're careful of your keywords! It's amazing! Thank you for coming by!!!


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Thank you Moon, I hope you're having as much fun as I have had here!!!


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Oh gosh! Makes me sad every time I have to realize the keyword tool is gone :( I loved it!! The keyword planner is not a great substitute. Thank you for dropping in Organized Kaos!!!


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

AE..Concerning your key word advice; aren't I accomplishing the same thing as the Google Keyword tool (inside Google Analytics) as when I simply Google a few words on the general Google page, and see what appears on the drop down box.


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Nope, because the suggestions that fill in are guesses based on commonly used keywords. You cannot see how many searches are coming through, the amount of competition by advertisers, or the CPC. Some of those guesses may even be some that get a tops of 20 searches per month. The Keyword tool helps you to figure so much more out. If you check out your "queries" and keywords in google analytics, this will tell you what keywords ARE bringing you traffic, your average SERP position, and your impressions. Use this data to your advantage :)


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Gotcha..just having a little trouble getting re-aquainted with the tool thingy. I noticed that a field pops up for your site when using it; makes me wonder if Googles tracking the phrases that are coming from one's own site or the general internet traffic of Google. If I leave that field empty, would that mean it's general traffic?


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Well, when you insert your URL, what the keyword tool does is searches through your content, finding keywords wthin it that would benefit you if you purchased a PPC campaign through Google AdWords. Now, what you can do is enter your site, check out the keywords, and then write them down in Excel. You can then go back and do individual searches for EACH keyword, and find some that are low comp/ over 500 global searches/long tail/under 1 million actual search results in google search. The URL option is just to find keywords that are inside of your content- not to evaluate traffic coming in. Now, Google Analytics will evaluate your incoming traffic and search queries, allowing you to find the best keywords to target.


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Rachael Namai 3 years ago from Nairobi, Kenya

Thank you. This actually gives me an idea of how I should start. Its very useful and simple.


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Suzanne Day 3 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

I agree with your methods and have been busy exploring writing 2-3k words per hub, which seems to increase traffic even more, just by writing more on the same topic. I must admit, I've dumped keyword researching and backlinking in huge amounts for the time being, to see where this new direction of writing long but engaging hubs takes me!


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Suzanne, dumping backlinks is okay but always target a keyword phrase :) the reason the longer passages are performing better is because of them! You're probably repeating several things throughout the text, and they just happen to be keywords that are being searched for. You could always find a whole list of keywords, then just scatter them throughout. Should always decide what you're writing before you find the keywords- I bet it wouldn't be hard to do! I write after finding keywords, but I just all around love to write- especially educationally. So doing the keyword oriented hubs is fine by me- I still enjoy it! :)


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Hey AE, do you think it hurts the results if you add other keyword phrases, for example, I noticed the phrase 'Love quotes' was around the right traffic amount, although my article wasn't focused on that, it certainly fit in, in general; so I added a little list of famous love quotes. Which is not the key word phrase in general. Unfortunately, it's within a little chart that only fit at the bottom of the page; I noticed you mentioned that we shouldn't put key words in the bottom paragraph; but wasn't sure if a chart was looked at like a paragraph.


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Well, the thing is "love quotes" would definitely be hard to rank for. But if that keyword can work into something else (say you're writing about birds or something) you can insert it (such as "bird love quotes" or "love quotes with birds". I kind of wonder if a keyword within a table would increase its weight; I never thought about that. It would be a legitimate theory though. Let me know if you bring in traffic from that keyword over the next few months! But the best way to use keywords, is to use their synonyms and similar phrases :)


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Thank you, I'll see if I notice a difference. I don't think there's enough traffic yet on any of my hubs to make any kind of conclusion, though.


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Was just looking for the place on analytics where it tells what words bring in actual traffic to the page. But can't find it.


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Go to google.com/analytics, and in the right hand bar: Acquisition, Search Engine Optimization, Queries. You may have to enable a WebMaster Tools account to see the queries. This is a list of the different phrases that are bringing you traffic, and it shows how many impressions you're getting in the search engine (this would be considered POTENTIAL traffic! You could always bring up your SE page rank and get more of these viewers), it'll show what your current position is in the search results, and you'll see your CTR percentile from those impressions.


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Got it. Thanks Krystal!


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

You're totally welcome :) I hope you begin to see your traffic rise! I just hit my highest paying day ever on Sunday- $2.37. Whoo-hoo!!!!


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Yeaaaa for you. I just received my 2nd Accolade…so I'm totally pumped! Plus the fact that YOU'RE so inspiring! As far as traffic…I'm just at almost 600 views, total (for 4 hubs), so I have a long, long way to go.


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Girl just keep going at it! I promise you as long as you stick with it and keep variations of different keywords involved, keep em in your title, first paragraph header, summary, and first paragraph, you'll be doing great!!! Just keep watching me and the other successful beginners, follow in our steps, and we'll lead you in the right direction. I've been doing SEO optimized FREELANCE writing for over 2 years now, so I know how to write Google-approved keyword optimized pieces that won't get slapped. As long as it's natural and optimized, Google AND Hubpages will do most of the work for you! A few links sprinkled here and there over time (i might make that effort once every two weeks, for different hubs), and they'll continue to rise in the SERP's. But you're already off to a GREAT start, and I think I'll go through and pin some of your stuff to help out a little :) I have about 400 followers :) If you don't have pinterest, DO get an account! It helps!


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Wow thanks! I DO have Pinterest…will do the same with some of yours.


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

AE, can you help me get a clearer picture …so you're highest pay day is 2.37. How many views would that be..and is it just views for that day, for example would you see that number under the '1 day', on the Page Views in Hub Statistics…and is that for one Hub, or the total of all Hubs (bottom line)


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

EA..is it possible I've been punished?!?! "don't heavily use them, however. This will punish you." This morning I added a paragraph and key phrases about November being diabetes awareness month to a diet article. Before the morning was over my profile score went from 92 to 88. Coincidence? Hmmm. Better question, if this happens, should one go back and take them out; or would that make matters worse?!?!?


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

I have been getting anywhere from 300-620 views! It keeps spiking during weekends, and each weekend is higher. Plus, after each weekend, my week averages higher too. My current highest is even more now. And the number is under 1 day, BUT that is a rolling 24 hour period. IE, It's 1am. You have 400 visitors at 1am, then silence until 11pm that next night. Then, 300 more visitors all of a sudden. Your count will go to 700- but at 1am it'll drop to 300. Make sense?

Your profile score always drops when you publish a new hub. I have no idea why though! Mine does not drop by much anymore, but it used to commonly drop to 88 too!!! Hubpages scoring system is by all means a joke- all that's important is that your hubs are "featured". Otherwise hubpages won't allow Google to crawl them. If they don't get crawled and made visible, Google won't rank them/know they exist. Editing of hubs on occasion is a good thing, just don't change them drastically each time (by any more than 30%). I included my advised keyword density in this hub, but you could honestly use as many keyword phrases as you like as long as they look and read naturally to the viewer :) If it's unnatural or overly loaded with keywords (using the same word for more than 1% of the article's wording- or, 10 times in 1,000 word entries).


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Total sense, Thanks AE! We'll, it's up again this morning. Sooooooo. I've been workin' the keyword research; so I'll just focus on your percentages more. Now…my silly question of the week, keeping in mind I'm not even in the 'real' world yet as I've only published 5 hubs (when I get to 15 I can apply for google ads. However, I do set goals for myself constantly; right now I'm just getting my total views for total hubs up. But, what are the relevant numbers, what is the time span..to hit say 2000 views. Would ga compensate on that amount per one given point in time, or an hour, or a day, or a month?


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Google Adsense isn't going to earn you much at all on Hubpages, it's such a negligible amount. After 3 months and 20,000 visitors you might have enough for a 20 oz Coca-Cola lol. Your biggest goal should be to release at least 1 keyword optimized hub every 2-3 days- you've got to get the hubs out, so they may rest for a few weeks. This way you can find out which ones are performing the BEST, and build upon those, that niche, and find more keywords in it. There's no real estimate on when you will hit that amount of views... so don't make this your goal. Instead, make the writing of the hubs and the "steady" Google traffic your goal! If your traffic is really low, try to just focus on increasing it by a few visitors per day. That was my goal at one point :)


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

OK. Well, a bottle of Coke is a bottle of Coke. :) But would that theoretically be 20,000 in a day, hour, week, or all time?


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

All time lol. You really don't earn much through GA, simply because the ONLY google ad that goes up is going to be on the right side at the VERY bottom of the page- even below the comments. So it never gets clicked.


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

OK... however, is there a way to earn revenue through these hubs, then?


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Yes, the hubpages ad program. It pays really well- I'll be getting my first check at the end of this month, for over $70. You'll have to activate the ad program though- there's the hubpages ad program, google adsense, ebay affiliate, and amazon affiliate. You want to go with the hubpages program :)


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Yes, yes. That's what I thought. I just wanted to know how to focus my goals--not much else behind my question. Like, it sounds like it pays so much per thousand views in a day. So now instead of looking at my total views; I have a few hubs, so I can start making the one day views, my increasing target goal. That's all. It's all good. I'm patient. I wasn't trying to be nosey…just no one would give me that basic info..and the Hub page on this--ad payouts-- is SO complicated. The only thing I wanted to know, is the fact that it's so many views per day. BTW: yes, I'm definitely going for the hub pages program. They just told me I needed 15 hubs, first. I'm just on my 7th. (But, two have won Rising Star contests, and One is an 'Editors Choice' yeaaame).


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

I didn't know there was a minimum hub number for the ad program! Wow! Well, that's good motivation though. Because if you can build up your hubs/traffic before activating it, those measly penny days won't be there to discourage you! Well, hopefully not with my advice!


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Maybe this is new; I thought the first time I tried it said 5, but the last time I tried it said 15. I think. I just published my 7th this morning. So far, I've been just writing what I feel like (and then doing the key searches), but lately I've been about what you said, finding a phrase..probably an angle on a shorter phrase; perhaps that's where the creativity comes in. I want to dig around for my next topic--I'm thinking you are probably very good at that since you have a modest amount of hubs delivery profit for you already--so I'm following your lead :)


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Corrections: I've been 'thinking' about; finding a phrase..and adding an angle with another key phrase…like a combo idea…'delivering' profit. (wow, I must have been half asleep when I typed the above!)


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Totally confused. I was just rejected by "Ad Sense." Is that a necessary part of the Hubpages program? There was a long list of 'problems', many of which didn't apply to me--like too many videos, not enough content; however, am I supposed to have my own web site to doe this?


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Sometimes that just happens. And nope! Adsense IS NOT required to take part in the Hubpages ad program as far as I know :) It's probably a bunch of things that may be wrong, and it just needs to be reevaluated by a real person. Send a ticket and challenge the case; when they take a look at it they will PROBABLY approve you since they can see that you are not a spammer or anything. You can also create your own free blog at blogger.com if you want to, and add adsense there as well later on.


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Thanks AE. I think I'll do a few more hubs and regroup. I really appreciate all of your help!


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

You're welcome :) Just don't give up because it will happen. I'm hitting new milestones constantly, as a matter of fact, I just broke 700 views in 24 hours for the first time!!! Yup!!!! And I broke it with a bang, at 743 right now. I wrote a hub for one of the many keywords I'm targeting and linked to it from the others in that niche- and it's eating views like a fly on poo. LOL this funnel technique is DEFINITELY a winner, so be sure to use it as much as possible. Keep at least 2 different niches- I'm going to keep several! I've got 3 main niches right now, with random stuff in between. I'm going to be starting on more when I feel I have tapped out my most profitable one!


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Way cool!!! But, funnel technique…need to go reread your hub. :) Do you think I should be writing additional hubs for keywords I've already tried for, or is that something that only becomes apparent with more volume?


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brakel2 3 years ago from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

You must have Adsense to be in the HubPages program. Adsense will disapprove you if you don't have enough hubs. This is a great article. You had a system, and it worked. You worked hard at at. I think keywords must have just clicked with you. I noticed some people in the comments don't use keywords, and I didn't in the beginning. Thanks for sharing this information. Blessings. Audrey Sharing


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srsddn 3 years ago from Dehra Dun, India

angryel, Great practical tips. Seem to be coming out your experience. Thanks for sharing. Useful.


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torrilynn 3 years ago

really nice tips that you have here. mostly, in my own opinion, I would have to say that you have to be active on the sight and to become friends with others. share your thoughts and opinions whether good or bad. thanks. voted up .


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

@brakel2 I actually had adsense for a few years before I activated my ad program here (in June). I never activated it before then, because I just kept leaving the site. I finally came back for good in June and it's really paid off! I spent 2 years freelance writing, so I learned alllll of the tricks to keyword research and integration :) That kind of experience is priceless!

@srsddn they sure are! It's an observation of everything I've done!

@torrilynn Thank you! I wasn't too awful active in the community, I usually just do my own little thing lol. I try to be when i can though!


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Now, if you would like some advice on how to pull your score DOWN…or what not to do: I was rocking a nice 95 until I published a 900 word hub without checking any keywords, but it did have the phrase 'Thanksgiving gratitude" which has a lot of traffic, but I'm thinking it was people looking for quotes. My score promptly dropped to 87. Ouch.


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Haha it seems to dip every time you publish a hub :)


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Hmm. Oh yea, that too. :)


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SmartAndFun 3 years ago from Texas

It is my understanding that because the keyword planner is a tool for advertisers, "high" competition actually means those keywords have lots of advertisers bidding to advertise for them, so they will have a higher CPC -- not "high" competition for a writer who wants to rank for those keywords. "Low" competition means not many advertisers are looking or competing to advertise on pages with those keywords. Correct me if I am wrong...?


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Well, hubpages? It doesn't matter. No matter what, you are receiving your earnings for impressions not clicks. You can enhance your CPM by tweaking the content for additional high CPC keywords that you are not trying to rank for, but to trigger those ads in particular to pop up that relates to the content. You WANT low comp because it's easy to rank for- it's traffic. High comp is futile unless you are selling a product or service. You are not going to earn enough here to justify paying for campaigns to boost your rank; for the most part. Now, if you are writing on a blog, you're going to want keywords that will trigger better paying ads. But that is a totally different ballgame. All in all, you want low comp with 500+ searches. the CPC is not going to matter much for hubpages. Your TRUE goal is traffic. High comp is high comp all around- if there is competition for the ad space, it's going to return lots of results in a search too. Oh, and it also means those different sites have put in lots of money for rock solid SEO! Not worth it for the average hubber :)


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Um…regarding the 500; can that be a combination of keywords, or does it have to be a distinct keyword or keyword phrase.


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

I personally aim for one keyword to be 500+. Aim lower if necessary so you may see how the KW research affects your traffic before aiming higher. Now, you're going to want one MAYBE two solid keywords that you're aiming for. My best performing piece has a combination of like 8 keywords or more in the title- but that was mostly chance I was blending 2 or 3 originally. I'm experimenting more with this method to see how it goes, but of course you want it NATURAL. ( example. [kw1]Shopping for pink and blue daisies: [kw2] how to find healthy daisies and [kw3]naturally pest resistant daisies) See how natural that example title sounds, but you can see how 3 keywords are interwoven? Of course those aren't researched keywords, but yeah :) You could find 2 or 3 that would work well together to do something like that with if you're still trying to home in your KW research skills. Just don't try to overdo it, it must make perfect sense and sound natural to a reader :) If you find 3 words with 200+ that's a potential of 600+ per mo, but don't expect that many visitors. Even the #1 spot won't get even 80% of all traffic.


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Ok, thanks. I have to digest this now. :)


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

Oh, here's a question…do you have any opinion about the bounce rate. According to Google mine seems extremely high, like 65%. Is that normal?


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angryelf 3 years ago from Tennessee Author

Mine is even higher than that! I still get good click throughs to other hubs though. I think it depends on your audience too. See, mine is largely kids- since I list lots of ideas, there's a good chance they click in, read the headings for the main points and ideas, then hit the back button and check other sources for more ideas. Don't forget: even if you give them the information they ask for, and you completely solve their problem, there's still a good chance they will hit the back button. Just include links to other hubs (even if they aren't yours but are closely related) in order to drop it more if you want to.


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EGamboa 3 years ago from West Palm Beach

OK. And I didn't know that's how they arrived at the bounce rate. Thanks! btw, just published my 10th hub. Daily clicks for all 10 have been up to 40, now down to 10. They fluctuate.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

That is exactly how I started out! You could see a surge up to like 50, then the next day have 10... It's because your content is still dancing. Once Google really evaluates it, it should seat it in a decent spot. You should go ahead and make sure they're all pinned, shared on FB & twitter, and have been bookmarked. This should help them!


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

Thanks AE. Which scenario do you think we're in: A. all hubbing adds to traffic of mother hub where a small fraction of the 70,000 hubbers will generate revenue; sort of like a pyramid thing; or B. Your personal Hub space evolves like the Borg over time, an unstoppable slow snowball affect that will eventually pay off.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Well, we're already on a 60/40 revenue plan. See, you get 60% of the impression revenue; hubpages gets the other 40%. But what you see in your earnings IS the 60%, hubpages share has already been deducted. Also, all of your traffic is your traffic. Personally, I think the better the score and its performance within the search engine increases the chances of it being shown as a "further reading" link under someone else's hub. This is a good thing, it increases the potential of retaining readers. Otherwise, it's like your own personal pyramid I guess you could say... The better you interlink your similar hubs, the more you can recycle your visitors. It'll only pose an "unstoppable snowball effect" if, and only if, your hubs are ranking well and you're recycling visitors through interlinking... AND if you keep on posting hubs :)


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

And when you say 'ranking well', that's a total Google thing, correct. In other words, these Hub scores I receive may have little correlation to how Google ranks me…when I eventually get out there.


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

AE…do you think this is a good thing to do…(suggestion from someone on Forum): " I only created backlinks on Bubbles by creating a small synopsis of my HubPage article and then adding a link back to my HubPage."


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Yes, hubscore is not related to ranking with Google :) and it may or may not be- because I'm not sure how widely spammed the site is. If that site is widely spammed, Google could be rolling its eyes at it. If Bubblews actually keeps spam to a minimum and it's kept rather clean, then it might be alright to do. It all depends on what kind of name a website makes for itself. You don't want your link hosted in a spam farm anyway, it's like a rope tying you to bad juju! lol


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

Oh no, no bad juju! I have enough to worry about! :0


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

Hi Krystal! Well, of course being a natural maverick I didn't heed ALL of your advice, and will probably regret it later. I'm talking about the part where you said, keep it non-seasonal. I've published 2 media 'reviews' and 2 holiday hubs. Which, are bound to lose any popularity they may have had with time. However, I'm happy to say, I now have 12 featured hubs--only three more to go and I can apply to Adsense again. Funny thing, I don't know if it was a coincidence, but when I put out my Saving Mr Banks review, Hp gave it like a 83, by the next day (today) it was a 77. Do you think because the competition is so stiff there's no good chance of high placement that it brings your score down?


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

It'll probably go up with time, as traffic pulls in. And seasonals CAN be okay- it just means they won't pick up traffic during the year. However, if they are targeted, they will age well over the year, giving them a much more likely chance to bring in SERIOUS traffic next year! Seasonal hubs can be successful- it's just more risky. Now, I published a seasonal hub regarding gift wrapping, and it's successfully hit into 40 views on some days. However, it's also a potential evergreen hub- because people could reference it for birthdays, valentines, and other occasions like graduation or baby showers. Try to make seasonals evergreen in some way- this will up your chances of success. Also, I'd make calls/emails to the Google Adsense team asking them to PERSONALLY review your hubpages domain. This may speed up the process :)


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

Well, I did change it from a Thanksgiving hub to a holiday hub; however, but I suppose once the movie's out, there will be no reason to read a review on it. Oh, I forgot to ask…when I first started, the stats page showed a nice bar graph of my hubs as they were published..that went away after about five or so. Am I supposed to still see that graph, or do they just show that in the beginning?


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

I honestly have no idea what graph you are speaking of lol. I signed up over 3 years ago, so it's possibly a beginner's thing...


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DzyMsLizzy 2 years ago from Oakley, CA

I'm grateful to Suzanne Day for pointing me to this hub in the forums, and I've bookmarked it for future reference as well, as I know I won't remember all of this in one read-through.

This is something I struggle with mightily; I was taught to write in the old journalistic style of a catchy 'hook' title. There was no such thing as the Internet, search engines, or SEO back in the dark ages of my education.

I've been tweaking a lot of my titles lately, at others' suggestions, and I'm especially grateful to Marisa Wright for her incredible patience. However, I still don't seem to have quite grasped the concept. And, the last time I tried to use the keyword tool (just a week or so ago), I couldn't find it as it used to appear, and seemed to have changed to a for-pay advertising tool.

I do have a Twitter and FaceBook account, and recently joined Pinterest. However, my Tweets and FaceBook posts of new articles are done automatically with Twitterfeed, so that way, they only hit once, and I don't spam anyone. My e-mail signature has just a generic "check out my hubs" link to my profile page.

I looked for the link you mentioned to contact you, but don't see it showing up, so, if you don't mind, I'm going to e-mail you my other questions.

Thanks for such a thorough, informative hub. Voted up, useful, interesting and shared.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Liz, I'm the one you were talking to in the Facebook group :)

That is why I created the group, so that those who needed more help after reading this hub could come over to the group and ask questions. I seem to be easier to reach there.

And yes, the Google Keyword Tool was deleted and replaced with the Keyword Planner- which I'm not fond of by far. I want the Keyword Tool back!!! Now days, keywords are what content revolves around; as that's how it's found as you know... but it some cases (such as viral worthy pieces) that catchy title will trump SEO. That's usually shock factor pieces though :)

The GKT was always made for advertisers; it's just always used by site owners as an SEO tool. It exists so that sites can use proper keywords and also pay for advertising for those keywords, while seeing how much they will have to pay, how much search traffic there is, and what time of the year the keyword sees the most traffic.

Google is going to be your MOST IMPORTANT traffic generator. Everything else is dependent upon your marketing skills and luck. These days though, internet users tend to be a bit desensitized to links; it REALLY has to catch their interest. That's the beautiful part of made for pinterest images. There's one author here on Hubpages who made a hub regarding MFP images, but I don't have the link to it... If you search for "made for pinterest" up at the top of the site in the search bar, it should pop up. It's very useful!


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DzyMsLizzy 2 years ago from Oakley, CA

Oh! well, then --err..umm.. yes, I see that now... slow to make the connection; brain on info overload today! Thank you so much. Yes, I did read that hub...and changed some of my photos accordingly.


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Marisa Wright 2 years ago from Sydney

One thing that worries me. You say the competition should be "low" on Keyword Planner. In fact you should either ignore the competition, or look for high competition. The competition column tells you NOTHING about how much competition you have as a writer - it tells you how much the advertiser will have to pay to advertise on your post. So choose Low, and you'll write on phrases that will pay very little per click!


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Marisa, if that was true, I'd not have earned $48 so far this month ;). Low competition is what you want because it means that advertisers are not looking to pay or rank for those keywords. Usually, it means there is not a product to sell to that market (say 12 year olds), or that there is not a large enough market to target to earn much of anything (say, pet rat owners). This allows people to rank easily for several different terms, and in turn, you will rank for others as well. Since low competition means little competition for advertisers/companies, you rank easy. It doesn't necessarily mean there's few clicks. I write my articles around SEVERAL keywords- but target the central keyword. My most popular hub gets over 200-300 hits per day, all revolving around a keyword that gets about 1,000 searches per month. And, CPC doesn't matter here- you're working on CPM. Impressions. My CPM seems to stay fairly high. The competition DIRECTLY tells you how much competition you have as a writer, because it tells you whether or not those who are paying for SEO and ads are targeting those keywords. THAT'S what you have to worry about when ranking- whether or not your competition in the SERPs is easy to beat. That is, unless you want to dump money into some SEO. Which, none of us do for the most part. And, that could turn out bad with future Google updates too. Now if you're going after a keyword with 5k+ searches per month, or more, good luck... because that will be what's difficult to rank for. Look at it like this: if YOUR audience is a very profitable audience, it is going to be hard. I wrote LSI content as a freelancer for over 2 years, and learned a lot from my clients. They taught me very important stuff because I needed to be able to implement it into the articles they were paying me for. As I wrote, I began to apply these general rules to my own personal writing. In combination with this site's healthy ranking, I easily shoot to the first page for a lot of keywords. No real off-page SEO involved either! It's crazy to believe it works I'm sure, but it has for me and that's all that I care about hahahaha.


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torrilynn 2 years ago

Thanks for this hub it helped a lot. Im trying to figure out more ways to make money here on Hubpages. Up shared and useful.


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passionate77 2 years ago

nice and informative post, indeed very helpful, just bookmarked it for the further reference, stay blessed for haring!


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Thank y'all! I'm really glad everyone is finding it useful- it's nice to be able to help and give back. If you've any questions, feel free to ask. Best of luck in your journeys everyone!


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B. Leekley 2 years ago from Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA

Up, Useful, Interesting, and shared with followers.

I have a difficult time reading with comprehension about math and technology, so I am going to have to study this hub and the comments and responses over and over until they don't go over my head. For now I have these questions:

Why do you say to not put any keywords at the end of a hub? I read somewhere long ago that the heading of the Comment capsule should repeat the hub title. For instance, if the hub title is How to Raise a Rat, then it's a good idea to make the heading of the Comment capsule How to Raise a Rat: Comments. Is that not so? Why?

You wrote, "Go to the Google Keyword Planner and type in a phrase." I went to Google Keyword Planner and signed into my Google account and was given four "What would you like to do?" choices. Which should I go to?

I tried the one about traffic estimates but didn't get any useful information. I typed a list of related keywords to find out which get the best and which get the worst results (information I used to get from Keyword Tool), but Keyword Planner lumped them all together.

You say in #4 to put the keyword in the title, the first paragraph, and once or twice more. Isn't the keyword the topic that the hub is about? How can you write about something and only mention it 4 times? I wrote a hub about Kalamazoo, Michigan, the city where I'm living. I'm not clear why there is a rule that I have to revise that article so that I only mention Kalamazoo four times, or how that would be possible and still have an article that makes sense. Or was that a wrong topic to write a hub about?

In #5, what is a Facebook Fanpage? Do you not mention a new hub on Google+? What is a signature link?

In #7, what do you mean by "hit the Tweet button and use keyword related hashtags for them." I know about sharing hubs on Twitter, but how do you add text to them? With tweets being so short, aren't the ones for a hub already full? Can you give a hypothetical example?

I hope you reconsider helping beginners and slow learners like me in the HubPages forums.


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StephanieBCrosby 2 years ago from New Jersey

Thanks for sharing your experience. I too have struggled with being more committed to writing. But if we do, certainly the earnings and traffic will follow.


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Marisa Wright 2 years ago from Sydney

angryelf, I don't agree with your logic,but if it's working for you, then go for it. As my traffic is just heading for the 2 million mark and I've earned a wee bit more than you this month, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

B. Leekly, that is a lot to go over, so I will have to come back to it after work :)

Stephanie, it is very true. Just requires making the time!

Marisa, You've been active for 6 years, and I could only assume a majority of your hubs, three times what I have, have received the huge benefit of age. I can also only assume that you were reaping tons of traffic before the panda updates hit too? If I had that many hubs, I could be reaping 1,500-2,400 hits per day; yes that would be nice, but it's a slow process. I'll get there. And if you're only earning a wee bit more than me; does that, in itself, not mean that I'm doing unbelievably well for having been active only 6 mo? You forget this minor detail as well haha.


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leni sands 2 years ago from UK

Really useful and interesting hub - read it a few days ago then got distracted and thought better come back and comment. Voted up!


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Alright Leekley, here we go!

#1: I've never ever tinkered with the heading of the comment capsule. I just always left it. Also, it used to be a red flag to Google that tripped keyword optimizing with them- leaving it out of the last paragraph will keep from triggering it.

#2: You want the first choice I believe- I'm not signed into my account now so I can't say exactly what it is; but you want to evaluate a single phrase. It's kind of like the backroads- I can tell you that I know where I'm going, but I can't tell ya the names of the roads to save my life haha! Using the URL option can help you to find keyword ideas, and analyzing a group of your narrowed down ideas in the multi-keyword option can help to save time.

#3 The keyword planner is a lot different, it couples the keywords into categories. You have to click on the category to get the full list of words. When you see a list of categories, each one has keywords inside- the numbers you see on the category stats are for all of the words within that category combined. If I'm not giving you the correct answer here, let me know and I'll see if I can't find an awesome video tutorial for you :)

#4 If you use a keyword too much, it sends off a spam/keyword stuffing flag to google. In the MUCH earlier versions of Google algorithms, keyword stuffing was the way to rank. Now it's simply disregarded as spam. Google is very smart- you can use a keyword once every 500 words and it'll still pick it up. Less is more now. Your BIGGEST goal is to use synonyms! Google wants synonyms and similar phrases more than keyword repeats. You need variety. Also, you could have a hub titled "25 ways to make your truck look awesome" and show up as a result for the search phrase "25 ways to make your car look cool". I can testify to this, I see variations like this in my Analytics account all the time. As long as those words (cool, car) appear in there- you're good to go. Dig a grave for keyword stuffing- you need synonyms, synonyms, synonyms!

#5 I don't use Google+. Never have, probably never will. It just leaves a funny taste in my mouth, couldn't tell you why hahaha. A facebook fanpage is something you can "like" on Facebook. For example- you may like "Hubpages" on facebook. If you would like to see an example, just type "hubpages facebook" in google and it should pop right up. You should either manage a fanpage as an author, or as a niche. For example, if someone writes about nothing but crafty posts or recipes, then they could make a fan page about crafting, or cooking.. or one for each. Or all in one- whatever way they'd like. A signature link is when you place a link to something in the signature of your emails. Your email account will have a setting for this :)

#6 Twitter usually shortens the link. You can erase the text part of the tweet (not the url) and shorten the text, then add hashtags. For example, this one would be "how to drastically improve traffic and earnings on hubpages successfully [URL]" as a default. Instead, you could change it for yourself. An example: "How to: Hubpages traffic & Earnings Success #hubpages #gettraffic #success [url]"

I hope some of this helps!!!


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Thank you for dropping in Leni!!! I am glad you appreciated it :)


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B. Leekley 2 years ago from Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA

Thanks, angryelf, for your helpful replies to my questions.

#4 is a dilemma for an article about Kalamazoo, because there is no synonym for Kalamazoo, which is a city in Kalamazoo County and is the home of the Kalamazoo Growlers and the Kalamazoo Wings and of Kalamazoo College and of Kalamazoo Valley Community College ....

Anyway, as a general point regarding many keyword situations, what you say is right on, and I'll keep mindful of it.


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The Examiner-1 2 years ago

Hi angryelf,

This was a very interesting and useful Hub. I have only been here less than a year. I have Pinterest, AdSense and HP ads with only less than 40 Hubs. I will have to read this again, bye for now.


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La Verne Amigo 2 years ago from Philippines

Great Advice:) thanks for helping... I am doing most of your tips; but for some, I failed. Thanks for adding more info...


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Renuka Rana 2 years ago

Thanks, will surely follow these tips.


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

Ok AE, I just published a Hub that is designed to completely follow your method, i.e., find a key phrase to target, then write! :)


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Be sure to be patient EG :) It could take 3 weeks to rank, it could take 8! Don't edit it too much until you start to see organic views come in from Google; because if you edit it too much, it'll keep it from settling. Let me know how it goes as time passes!


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

Do I even get organic views if I'm not on Adsense?


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ajayshah2005 2 years ago from Mid Asia

very good and informative hub.Thanks!


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Of course EG; your views are not impacted by whether or not you use Google services. Whether it be Adsense or Analytics. Your views are determined by how many people find your hubs :)


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Ajay, thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!


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La Verne Amigo 2 years ago from Philippines

Hello Angryelf...I have this one question. why I should never use my keywords in the last paragraph? Most writers are using it... Thanks


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

La Verne, the reason I advise against it is because it was a heavily abused SEO tactic in recent years. It was assumed that Google would add more weight to content that contained the keyword in the first, and last, paragraphs. People began steering clear of adding KW's in the first paragraph and moved to the last. Now, Google is aware of it being abused. You can do it on occasion and get away with it; but I wouldn't use the same formula in every piece of content (putting keywords in the same spots every time). Using synonyms of the keyword is preferable :) I hope this makes sense!


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La Verne Amigo 2 years ago from Philippines

Oh thanks... yes it make sense now. Google keep changing the tactics... But now I have another question... most of the time I aim for keywords with 4000 monthly searches or more... but you said it would be hard? so, sticking to those less than 1000 would be better but with the use of some keyword phrases? And do you mean that I will use some other keyword phrases plus some related words all together? Thanks


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

The keyword phrase itself is the keyword you should be targeting. You don't want to target a single word; or even two words. You want what is called a long tail keyword. It's a keyword that is 3+ words long. The reason for fewer searches is that the fewer searches it has, the more likely you'll be able to rank highly for it. For example: froggy towels could have 5,000 searches; but pink froggy towels for kids might have only 800. However, there is going to be more sites mentioning froggy towels than the second keyword. Any result in the search engine that is not yours IS competition; you are competing with them for their spot in the search results. Your goal is to find a keyword that has plenty of searches, yet doesn't have too much competition in the search results. You should use synonyms in addition to your keyword; again if your keyword was froggy towels, you could use synonymous phrases like: toad towels, dart frog printed towels, frog print washcloths, etc etc.


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La Verne Amigo 2 years ago from Philippines

Ah okay thank you very much... this is a big help...:) but usually, I do aim for a long tail keywords which have 4000 views... But I'll use your techniques too... But I guess my high performing article has a lot of keyword phrases though the main keyword phrase has only less than a thousand views...before I was wondering why; and now I know. Thanks a lot!


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Well, just because you're targeting a main phrase doesn't mean that is the only one that will bring you traffic :) My best performing piece? Its keyword has only 150 searches per month; it brings in traffic from HUNDREDS of keywords and keyword phrases. It all depends on how rich the content is. And yes, there's some luck involved too. It's why SEO isn't an exact art. It is refined through learning, trial and error, and AHA! moments. When you find something that shows a little success, you improve on it, then replicate it; see more success, repeat.


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La Verne Amigo 2 years ago from Philippines

Great advice! really appreciate it... Actually, I am now more intrigue with SEO.:)


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

SEO is fascinating, exciting, and rewarding; but it is also tricky, frustrating, and annoying all at the same time. Just don't beat yourself up over something that you think SHOULD work without fault. SEO and Google have minds of their own; you never know which is going to be a hit and which is going to be a bust. I've been surprised with it sometimes too!


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

Krystal, in browsing all of these comments, which I like to do periodically, two things: it seems my weekly views, are about where your daily views are… does that sound about right… I've been on for about three months and have 14 hubs. Also, when I said the last Hub I published completely followed your method. That's true, except it's not quite there. My learning curve is, I feel you imply that the key phrase to be targeted should hopefully be something a bit more unique. I targeted one that is pretty basic, but I would have liked it to be more inventive… sort of like… instead of "how to make tortillas'… "how to make Blue Ridge Mountain tortillas" something more unique. That's better, right?


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

Oh…Hubpages says it like this, a good keyword is: "a complete answer to the question posed by the search query must be cobbled together by visiting several results…" that would ensure a bit of novelty.


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prestonandkate 2 years ago from the Midwest

Thanks for this article. We are still trying to figure out what our goals are as we write for hubpages, but this was very helpful. We find it rewarding right now seeing some hits on our pages, but probably like most people, we want to learn how to increase our views. Until then, we will continue writing about what we are passionate about. Thanks for your insight! -Kate


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

Hi Crystal! I have a question about your chart. I had thought I was looking for keywords around 500; however you chart says 250k to 1000k. Did you change those. Also, what is the difference between: keyword, "keyword", and inure "keyword"?


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bfilipek 2 years ago from Cracow

Great huhub!

You are right than one cannot be greedy and it is important to be pacient. Interesting content is the key.


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Lilleyth 2 years ago from Mid-Atlantic

This was so helpful. Thank you for sharing!


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

I'M BACKKKK!!!! WHOOO!!!!! Thank you everyone for stopping in and showing some support! :) I'm glad it has been helpful! Egamboa, sorry it's been so long, no internet for months! Anywho, my daily views are around 1,000 now. Sometimes it spikes to 1,300. I'm working on a new hub revolving around pregnancy, with several amazing keywords. Hopefully I'll see an improvement within a month! When you do a google search, "inurl" will show only results with the keyword in the url. same for in title (title of webpage). when you use both at the same time, it will show only results with the keyword in the title AND url. This will show you how many pages (your competition) ARE seo optimized for those words. Many long tail keywords will have results with well under 10,000 for this. Your keyword example is PERFECT- as long as you do the research to see how many searches it's getting per month (through the google keyword tool), and how much competition you have (through googling that keyword, and using the "inurl" and "intitle" method of research). You need to know the number of people looking for it AND the number of items they will find, as well as figure out how hard it would be to rank for those keywords.


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EGamboa 2 years ago from West Palm Beach

Thank you for more info to refer to. I have to pull away for awhile since I'm working a temp job that's taking up all my time and energy. Later!


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mgt28 2 years ago

Good advice in this article I will want to write an experimental hub.


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101Ways2Life 2 years ago from Clean and Green New Zealand

Great advice. Good to know that someone who has worked fulltime on SEO is providing some tips. Two tips I would share here are in fact contradictory to each other.

1. Write related hubs, and group them together, so that you can cross-reference traffic.

2. Diversify into different topics/keywords, so that you are not keeping all eggs in one basket.

For example, find few topics and write one hub on each topic. Then let them settle for a few weeks. See which ones get good traffic, and then write more hubs on successful topics. You even might want to open additional Hubpages account if your topics are completed unrelated to each other - e.g., fashion, photography, gardening.


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AudreyHowitt 2 years ago from California

Wow! Look at all these comments! Very useful--I write poetry mainly and HP is just not very poetry friendly--so my earnings here are meager to say the best--words of advice for a poet???


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mary615 2 years ago from Florida

I know I don't use keywords as I should, and I do not share my Hubs very much, either. I will try to take your advice.

Voted UP, etc.etc.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

101ways 2 life- I VERY strongly agree with what you have said! I both diversify AND group. I see success with them either way. I could probably welcome more success by separating different niches onto different subdomains, but I'm also building authority for a single subdomain with the way that I'm doing it now (if that makes sense). The higher the authority, the better each article ranks. The only problem is that I'm not here to write nearly as much as I need to :/

Audrey- I would think that since you are a poet, maybe you could write how to's and informational passages WITH poetry??? That might be a stretch...

but it is definitely unique if you ask me!

Mary- It will help you by a long shot!!! You also don't have to share them like crazy- just drop them here and there. Share them once on your FB profile, group page, pinterest account, etc etc :) Don't push them too hard, or you might get slapped with a spam accusation.


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101Ways2Life 2 years ago from Clean and Green New Zealand

Hi Angry Elf, thanks for the response. I am curious to know if you, and anyone else reading this, has tried to run an experiment. Anyone tried to compare Adsense vs Hubpages Ad program to see which one earns the best. Just curious. If people could share their experiences, that will be helpful. I have read HB forums on this topic, and haven't found useful data.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Personally, I find the hubpages ad program performs better. Through adsense, I receive about $0.09-$0.20 per day (depending on traffic). Now, this is only for views. It can go up to almost $1 on some days, if I receive clicks. The thing about GA is that it pays VERY low for impressions; but can pay decently IF you receive a high CTR. Hubpages ad program pays on impressions only. There is no difference in your earnings whether or not someone clicks on the ads. I run both of them currently, and my earnings through HAP are over $3 most days, up to about $6. GA is usually NEVER above $0.20. I hope this answers your question :)


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Hackslap 2 years ago from Sydney, Australia

Greetings Krystal from the land Down Under ..I've only been on HP since the past 8 months or so and have put out 54 hubs so far (a possible 55th one tonight or early tomorrow morning) .. Due to Google TOS I cant' reveal exact earnings but Im averaging $1-$1.50 a day .(earnings that is) .. My BHAG is $3000-$4000/month...yeah Im probably nuts for thinking its achievable but then no harm dreaming lol..

You have some great insights here ..and I'm gonna follow your tips !

PS..nice hair colour :)


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Wow you've definitely come far already! I'm NOWHERE near 3-4k/mo but NOOOO harm in wishing and hoping I say!!! I am glad you have enjoyed this hub though :) and thank you for the compliment- but unfortunately, I had to chop off my hair and regrow it as natural! All of that coloring took its toll- but you have to be young at some point LOL!


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101Ways2Life 2 years ago from Clean and Green New Zealand

Hi Angry Elf, thanks for the prompt response. A while ago, I tested both the programs separately, and found that Adsense performed better, though only marginally. You mentioned that you have both the programs currently. As far as I know, you can only run one of the two at a time, not both. How do you run both?

Hackslap, great job with 54 hubs in less than a year. It's a numbers game, so an income of 3K-4K could be possible. One unsolicited advice: don't keep all eggs in one basket called Hubpages. Build multiple streams of income, if not doing already.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Yes, you can most definitely use both at the same time. I could always try to turn off my Hubpages ads- and see how well it performs without them. I don't believe I'd earn much more but like I said- could always try!


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101Ways2Life 2 years ago from Clean and Green New Zealand

Hi Angry Elf. I see what you mean. Sorry, I should have been clearer.

If you run BOTH programs - Adsense and HP ad program, only one slot will show your Adsense ads, that too, right at the bottom of the page. The remaining slots will be used for HP ad program ads. Obviously, if you are running both programs, your HP ad revenue will be much higher than Adsense revenue.

For a fair comparison, you will need to switch off HP ad program, and let Adsense take over all ad spots, and then you can compare the results of Adsense ONLY trial vs Adsense plus HP ad program trial, to see which one wins.

In my case, Adsense only option performed slightly better.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

I did- I ran it for a close to a full day, but it was horrible! It ran for over 15 hours as was- but I had to switch back. Today and tomorrow are the biggest days of the week hahaha so I can't afford to lose them. I barely made more than a quarter- whereas I could have had over $3.

And while you get fewer slots, those are STILL impressions :) You're not too awful likely to get clicks anyway (many people are immune to all of the ads) unless you have a much higher flow of traffic. For those with more traffic, Adsense would probably win out.


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101Ways2Life 2 years ago from Clean and Green New Zealand

Hi Angry Elf, maybe you are right. High traffic hubs might benefit from Adsense Only option - though I don't have any data to say that. I believe 24-hours is a short time to experiment. I guess HP systems would need 24-hours to even respond to a changeover. I had run my test for 15 days. Of course, I know what you mean. If the HP program is making you much more than Adsense only, then you would be hesitant even to try the test.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Oh yes, very hesitant during the weekends especially. A weekend alone usually earns me about $12 through the HP program! I'm planning on branching out of HP and starting my own website here soon, one that will relate to a few hubs I already have- since it's such a large traffic success, I figure I can hit it twice as hard with a separate website. I'm definitely after some serious income through ad revenue! :)


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101Ways2Life 2 years ago from Clean and Green New Zealand

Having a website is a great idea. You may also want to consider using Amazon on HP, especially if your traffic is at a stage in the buying cycle that's close to the buying decision (e.g. the right camera to buy).


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Oh yes, I utilize Amazon :) I just don't utilize it in hubs like these- since they won't convert. I figure having a hub or two without amazon capsules has got to be good for seo. I want to get some 2.0's pointed at these hubs, see if the rankings climb some more.


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101Ways2Life 2 years ago from Clean and Green New Zealand

I think website links pointing to your hubs should definitely work. I have mine, but can't say for sure whether it has helped or not. As you know, the older your website with Adsense on it, higher the CPC.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Yep! Most of my content? I haven't really done any offsite SEO; only onsite. I know my income could more than triple with a little SEO work, but I never did go after it. Never had the time. I did make progress today however :) I created two different web 2.0 articles to point at some of my hubs. I need to write a few more on that website to point to others, then move to another 2.0 site. And so on!


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101Ways2Life 2 years ago from Clean and Green New Zealand

Yes, backlinking is a great strategy. I somehow haven't done much of it, except an article here and there. Besides, Google's emphasis on backlinking is reducing with every passing day, though Matt Cutts says that those links will still be important for years to come. I rather prefer to spend my time writing more content than worry about backlinking. But that's just me. My focus is on building traffic on my OWN platforms so that I am in better control. I also hate the drop/rise in traffic with Google's every sneeze. I have been publishing online since 2004. All other factors change over time, but content remains the king, as it was in 2004.


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FlourishAnyway 2 years ago from USA

Everyone loves a success story with specific advice on how you got there. I have also found that it does take a bit of patience while the Google juice works its magic.


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education-for-all 2 years ago from Indonesia

Thanks for the inspiring hub. it helps me a lot to write my first hub.


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Hi AngryElf, just a question regarding the Pinterest video, what do you do with the person when you find the right one with the right criteria? Do you just follow and engage with them?


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

I just follow them. I don't really engage. I actually steer away from engaging!!! The reason is because I want to reduce my exposure to spam accounts. My only pins and likes are things I truly enjoyed and want to save. I will spend spare time on pinterest just pinning away. But I don't ever leave comments. The spam accounts still find you, but you'll notice small fluctuations in followers when those accounts get banned. I want 100% real follower s, but that's virtually impossible with the way pinterest works. You have no control over who's following you.


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Thanks, I just started and am getting some followers already! It irked me that I followed more than followed me. This is a way to appear a bit more popular. Though I only like and repin stuff that is excellent onto my boards, so as you said, would only engage if their stuff is really good. Do you find having more followers definitely means more sharing etc of your pins or not?


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Sunshine625 2 years ago from Orlando, FL

Good tips. I hope it's working out for you. I'm a pinner and engage often, with fellow country music fans...I rarely follow back unless I'm truly interested. Quality over quantity...same applies for my Facebook and Twitter accounts. I've done well with avoiding spam. Ain't nobody got time for that. Happy Hubbing! :)


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Just stopping by to tell you I tried the Pinterest thing and it worked really well. Thank you so much for sharing this. Voted up (just in case I forgot last time)!


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Sherry Hewins 2 years ago from Sierra Foothills, CA

I'm wondering why you recommend no Amazon. I have been making a few Amazon sales lately, and they are helping me reach payout some months when I would not otherwise.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

Awesome Suzanne!! It really is simple and well worth the effort :) @sherry, it seems google isn't too huge a fan. I remoced all of mine during may, but readded them to certain hubs in july without a big difference in traffic. I'm thinking it might have to do with the keywords...


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Bishop55 2 years ago from USA

Hi. I really like this hub. My first thought was this though...don't let anyone on hubpages or anywhere else discourage you or prevent you from sharing from your heart. If you share what you've learned and people give you bad opinions about it, keep sharing anyhow! Second thought, I'd really like to know who on hubpages clears 100k or more a month. Especially after seeing the poll with how many hubs people have. I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I'd sure like to get into that income bracket! I know some people are really fortunate to have hubs go viral. I worked hard the first 6-8 months when I joined, now I just do this at my leisure, which is not often (work FT and have a young child). Anyhow, the income is here to be made, that is a fact. The community is great, the people are talented. Keep doing what you love and the income follows. Thanks for this hub, I enjoyed it.


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heidithorne 2 years ago from Chicago Area

The keyword piece is sooooo critical! Voted up, useful, interesting and sharing!


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melpor 2 years ago from New Jersey, USA

This is a very informative hub. I am currently using these techniques to increase traffic to my hubs. I am doing SEO, inserting low competition keywords and writing long hubs. Just about all my hubs are about 700 to 1000 words long. I am using some of my affiliate marketing skills to improve my hubs for more traffic. Thanks for the suggestions.


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Mel Carriere 2 years ago from San Diego California

Very helpful advice. Patience is really the key. Some people give up on Hub Pages too quickly, and it really takes a year minimum to start getting payouts here, for the most part.


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Kathleen Cochran 2 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

These kinds of hubs always get a lot of traffic and usually say about the same thing. I think the point comes down to patience and time. If you follow the basic advice here, you've got a shot. At some point, you really do have to write quality content. Good job on this one.


LisaKeating 2 years ago

Great information in an easy to understand language. A lot of hubs on SEO are so technical, that I don't get much out of them. Thanks for sharing.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

@Bishop, it's just a matter of keyword research, thennnnn some luck. You have to balance the competition AND search traffic perfectly, with a little bit of SEO. Some hit without it, some will hit really hard with just a little. All depends on what you choose :)


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

@ heidi, keywords truly are; it's 50% of the battle! @melpor, affiliate marketing skills really do help to take advantage of Amazon and increase your earnings further if you have the capsules. @mel, definitely! Regular content is important for domain authority. @kathleen, while this is true, you'll always learn SOMETHING new from each :) each user with at least SOME success has part of the secret down. Putting these parts together as a noob can help one become more successful than those they learned from. It's all personal experience! @ lisa, I'm glad I made it easy to understand! Some of the technical parts have no choice but to be, well, technical. Sorry guys, my last comment closed during edit, as I forgot I couldn't make multiple comments at once!


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Hi All (sorry AngryElf, this is for comments to followers on home page at HP), take a look at the Pinterest vid here, it worked well for me. I'm about to do my second round, having scored 2 hubs now up to 50 visitors a day from Pinterest just from this technique alone! Highly recommend!!!


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melzetterberg 2 years ago from Covington, Louisiana

Thanks so much for the information. Very helpful!!


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Dave Smiles 2 years ago from Melbourne

Some very useful tips. Thank you very much,


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OhMe 2 years ago from Pendleton, SC

Thank you for this great advice. I am going now and editing my new Hubs to include more words and will be returning to this page often. Thank you.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

You all are very welcome! It benefits EVERYONE for each and every hubber to gain their own successful traffic; when we see traffic funnel through the "suggested" hubs, it means that another hubber has found at least some success :) As we all grow and help each other, we not only increase our personal ranking & traffic, but we also siphon those visitors to other wonderful hubs that they might enjoy. This in turn means you get traffic siphoned to you as well. We can ALL grow from helping one another!


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mySuccess8 2 years ago

Thanks for sharing. An excellent HUB!


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Ericajean 2 years ago

All I can say isthis is an excellent hub. I have 9 hubs so far, but I am hopeful because of my future topics and this informative hub you have shared. Thanks!


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koerakoonlane 2 years ago from Paris

Great hub, and I have to agree, I love your enthusiasm!


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Tom the traveler 2 years ago from Inverness, Florida

Great Hub, thanks for the information. I will be using a lot of this information in my upcoming HUBS!!!


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indianreel 2 years ago from London

Very good Hub. Thank you for sharing the information.


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Hendrika 2 years ago from Pretoria, South Africa

Thank you for all this info. I think I have a pretty good idea now of how to write a good Hub. One more thing, I am asking it everywhere but no answer yet, what do I use in the place of the Adwords Keyword Tool that is free? Your help will really be appreciated. I feel as if I am trying all this SEO in darkness and a complete void.


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HTMMFHomeLegit 2 years ago from Lakeland, FL

The techniques for improving your traffic that you listed are extremely useful in any form of online business that you do. I cannot stress enough the value of the keywords that Krystal has mentioned. While writing quality content is always important, getting it to where people can find it is just as much so.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

@Hendrika, I don't really use any other tool than GKT, because of its reliability. See, Adwords is THE biggest ad platform, and they have got to have a really reliable analysis of traffic for particular keywords in order to help webmasters to decide on which keywords they would like to bid on and pay for. Thus, it offers publishers the opportunity to see what's going on behind the scenes to find those keywords that'll push traffic to their sites.

@HTMMF, it truly is! Useful content is useless if there's no map to find it with. You could have the BEST content in a particular niche, but what does that mean if traffic can't find it...


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AaronBurton 2 years ago from US

Passion is key, I busted out a 1200 gaming hub with ease compared to my tutorial hubs which take me longer and feel like a drag. But I enjoy doing them.


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m abdullah javed 2 years ago

Nice hub angryelf. Thanks for sharing. Its interesring and guiding as well. Hope it will serve as a ready reference.


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newbizmau 2 years ago from Mobile, AL

A great explanation of how not to spam to much with Sharing on social networks. I admit I'm guilty of this. It's just so easy to hit the like or share button with facebook or pinterest or google+.


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askformore lm 2 years ago

The hub in itself is very good. Thanks!

But it gets better, because of all the questions and answers. These Q&A makes this super! So therefore, thanks to all of you!


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Jill Freeman 2 years ago from Pennsylvania

Just started on Hubpages ans found your Hub very helpful and encouraging. I joined your Facebook group as well. I will be making a more comprehensive plan today to get my Hubs out there! Thanks much for sharing your knowledge!


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

You are more than welcome Jill! My whole goal is to help the others out there who need the help! I've moved on to bigger & better things, I don't frequent hubpages anymore. As you can see, it's been a while since any new hubs. I have moved to my own websites, and have found much more success :) It will probably be easier to reach me in the group should you have any questions!!


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cinderella14 2 years ago from Philippines

I am really glad that I came along this hub. It helps me understand some of the things that are unclear to me. I'm still new here and I know there are still a lot of thing that I need to learn. You hub is is such a great help.


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angryelf 2 years ago from Tennessee Author

You're very welcome! I'm yet again glad that another person has found this hub so useful! There are many members here that are quick to dismiss me; even though I know what I'm talking about. This is the exact method I'm using, and my income is almost $300 a month between here, personal websites, and other ad revenue generating sites. I MIGHT have 100 pages of articles all together that are up on the net, and I'm dragging in virtually $3 each a month; mind you, over half of those pages receive only a trickle of traffic. It's always hit or miss so don't be discouraged. Even the best of research could yield no traffic, and the worst of research could make someone wealthy by accident. Don't give up! :)


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peachpurple 2 years ago from Home Sweet Home

great advice i must admit, you are young but a brain of thousand thoughts. voted up


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upal19 23 months ago from Dhaka

So helpful hub. I read it repeatedly. Very useful content.


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angryelf 23 months ago from Tennessee Author

Thanks peachpurple and Upal! Especially you Peach, especially since you were one of the first I really communicated with when I actually made use of HP last year :) I'm glad you guys enjoyed it! I moved on to bigger better things (own sites) but still have a nice income flow through here. I just kind of scaled up :)


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PinoyMom 23 months ago from Philippines

Thank you for your useful tips. I'll follow those steps to increase traffic for my hubs.


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EGamboa 23 months ago from West Palm Beach

Hey AE, just checking in as it's been a while. I haven't been writing since last march, but having published 15 Hubs back then, (trying to use your good advice), and letting them ride…my total Hub views are now over 13,000. Which, naturally inspires me to get back to it! Hope all is well dear friend. Oh, btw, what is your FB group mentioned above?


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angryelf 23 months ago from Tennessee Author

Eileen that's definitely a good start! The more you write, the more chance you have of striking gold. It's really a hit or miss game; being prolific gives you a better shot of striking that gold :) I've not written here much, and my hub views have dropped down to 300 a day, but back up to 550-600. Nothing compared to the 1,500 that I was getting before HP got hit bad last May.


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EGamboa 23 months ago from West Palm Beach

I noticed mine started to drop in September. What happened last May?


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EGamboa 23 months ago from West Palm Beach

Also…from a comment above: Just stopping by to tell you I tried the Pinterest thing …what IS the Pinterest thing. I know what Pinterest is, just wanted to see what the advice was regarding using Pinterest.


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sandybrownpop 22 months ago from peshawar

facebook is best platform for interaction....


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Bill Gerace 22 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

This is a fantastic Hub. I read the entire Hub and all the wonderful inspiring comments. I am going to join your group too if it's still available. I am bookmarking this Hub and will probably print it out to follow for all my Hubs. I am new to Hubpages and haven't written my first Hub yet. Trust me I will be using your information and following it letter by letter. Thanks for writing this awesome piece!! Also voting up and Sharing. :)God bless. :)


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dajine 22 months ago from Kakanj, Bosnia and Herzegovina

Great article Krystal, I am newbie here so I like to read some useful advice from experienced hubbers


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mamamikks 21 months ago from Dubai, UAE

Big help, Krystal! Thanks a ton!


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Chriswillman90 21 months ago from Parlin, New Jersey

Really great advice it made everything clear. I think patience is one of the most overlooked things when it comes to getting traffic. It won't happen overnight and it takes a lot of hard work to make it worthwhile. Excellent hub voted up.


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Bill Gerace 21 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

I have to say I followed your method though I"m not on page 1 with my first Hub I am on page 3. I think that is somewhat a good sign I hope. Any advice would be appreciated. I was actually shocked. Thanks so much. If this is good news that is. Hopefully it is. Have a blessed day. :)


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Cynthia Hoover 21 months ago from Newton, West Virginia

I just submitted my 5th hub to get out of "boot camp". I must admit I had no idea how to do many of the things you touched upon about keywords and SEO. As a newb thank you for sharing your success with us. I have not been discouraged but it is nice to know others have succeeded :)! I was have been pretty stoked that all mt "boot camp" hubs have been featured (although that maybe common). I look forward to using some of these tips in my future hubs! Thank you again!


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angryelf 21 months ago from Tennessee Author

Thanks for your support guys, and I'm glad you have found it useful! Bill, that is actually a VERY good sign. Many hubbers struggle to even get to the third page. As the hub ages, it will organically gain traction in the results. It will also get a nice boost from social signals, and internal linking. In other words, linking to it from your other hubs. You only need to point from 2 other closely related hubs. Google doesn't count but one or two links from 1 url. That goes for any site. You really don't need any more than 1 or two; and otherwise, it could look spammy. However, you can create a funnel effect too.


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Bill Gerace 21 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

Greetings Angryelf,

I have actually posted my Hub link on all social media including Faecbook, my Facebook Fan page, Google Plus, Reddit, Twitter, and wherever else I could. Last night someone repinned my Hub link from PinInterest. Does this all count towards backlinks I hope. I was actually starting to get discouraged but hearing these encouraging words is great. I have been following your method as close as possible. Thanks again. Be blessed. :)

Yours Truly,

Bill


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Bill Gerace 21 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

I just checked and now I am on page 4. I must work harder I guess. Thanks for everything. :)

Yours Truly,

Bill


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angryelf 21 months ago from Tennessee Author

It will continue to bounce in the rankings all of the time. Updating it here or there, OR posting new hubs, has a positive effect. Google can now sense "stale" content. Also, social media can be very slow. One of my holiday hubs didn't perform all that well in november of 2013. During 2014, repins continued to grow. Then as the holiday season hit, BAM! Like 125-300 views daily, all pinterest. 350 repins later, I cannot WAIT to see what happens this November. This has a very high potential to go viral this holiday. And I sure am rooting for that! Could be several hundred dollars I'll make just in time for spring of 2016!


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CharlieWarner 21 months ago

Thank You. Very new to Hubs but I am so passionate about my subject of Scams and how we could easily wipe them out if people knew more.

I am so confused about it all and I am just going to follow advice and keep going... thank you for the inspiration. Your enthusiasm shines through. Thank You


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humzayunas 21 months ago from multan, Pakistan

Thanks a lot for these tips. I'm just a newbie and stuck on my new hub getting approved my last hub to get me out of bootcamp :)


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Jacobb9205 19 months ago from Gloucestershire

Thank you for these tips, I hope they help!


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upal19 19 months ago from Dhaka

Very informative hub. Praiseworthy. Bookmarked. Will come again and again.


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tazzytamar 11 months ago from chichester

Thanks so much for sharing your success and writing a fab guide on increasing traffic. I'm grooming all of my hubs now because I transferred from squidoo and the rules there were very different. I'm proud of most of my articles but they are getting so few views - my best one is getting 8 views a day which I'm thinking is pretty pitiful really! Anyway, good luck and great hubs :) x


Lareene 11 months ago

Very helpful thanks.


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kenyanXstian 3 months ago from Nairobi, Kenya

Very good article, keep it up


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Maria Cecilia 2 months ago from Philippines

I joined your facebook group... I definitely need your opinion...

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