Hub Pages Community & Nibiru Planet X When Trolls Are Allowed We All Suffer!

Nibiru the Cat

The Nibster as I like to call him is well aware of his namesake but was sent here to teach me unconditional love and tolerance which is sometimes easier to do with cats than it is to do with humans.
The Nibster as I like to call him is well aware of his namesake but was sent here to teach me unconditional love and tolerance which is sometimes easier to do with cats than it is to do with humans. | Source

Immanuel Velikovsky

Place To Write and Grow

When I joined Hub Pages two and half years ago, I did so with the specific intention of being able to write about any subject I wanted to and maybe earn a little extra money. I was under no illusion that folks would agree with my theories, concepts and ideas but because I love to write and enjoy researching unusual subjects and topics, I decided after exploring other sites that this community of writers would offer the best forum for my fledgling abilities. This article Hub Pages Community & Nibiru Planet X When Trolls Are Allowed We All Suffer! will explore the topic of how negativity in any community but especially here on Hub Pages leads to an overall plunge in credibility and ratings.

Trolls are an accepted part of the internet society and exist whether we like it or not but when they are allowed to flourish and exist in a community that prides itself on creating interesting and informative articles without adding to the collective overall product, they create the perception that they are welcome.

It should be obvious to anyone that has read my articles that one of my favorite subjects is Nibiru Planet X and the Polar shift. I first learned about the planet Nibiru in the book The 12th Planet by Zecharia Zitchin written in 1976 and later in the book Worlds In Collision written in 1950 by Immanuel Velikovsky. If you go to page 66 in Worlds In Collision you will learn about Nibiru Planet X, although it is mentioned as a comet at first by ancient historians, it is later described as a planet.

My point is, that although the website ZetaTalk is a wonderful site dedicated to Nibiru Planet X and the Polar Shift, they are certainly not the only site on the internet that informs the public on this topic and certainly not the first source to even mention the subject. It has been the topic of research for over 100 years by a wide range of authors and the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, AZ was designed and built specifically to look for this mysterious planet.

So let's not pretend that The Powers That Be and our World's Government's do not KNOW this planet exists and is here now in our solar system because America has been searching for it for over 100 years. NASA even found it on the edges of our solar system and announced it to the World in 1983 using the IRAS space telescope. It was front page headline news in The Washington Post and New York Times, two of the biggest newspapers in the World. These aren't National Inquirer type newspapers but two of the most respected newspapers our planet has ever known.

Because Ronald Reagan, the President of the United States at the time, was concerned how the public would react to information that a planet four times the size of Earth was coming into our solar system, he made the topic part of the National Security mandate, which made it illegal for astronomers, scientists and institutions to talk or write about it publicly. He even went so far as to convince other governments world wide to keep the topic a secret. Now while this information is not widely known it doesn't take a Rocket Surgeon to figure it out.

I started writing about Nibiru Planet X and the Polar Shift because I felt there was too much disinformation about the subject on the internet and wanted to try to set the record straight based on my thirty to forty years of research. One of the first things one learns when researching this subject is the Precession of the Equinoxes, which teaches you that the planet Earth has an unnatural wobble. This is very important because it raises the question of just how this wobble was introduced in the first place.

Logically you will search back through history to try and find when this began and that is when you will notice that almost every ancient civilization has its own stories of massive flooding and planetary objects causing world wide cataclysms.

I have a big library of books about ancient cultures which is a subject that I have found fascinating even as a little kid of five or six. This library is my pride and joy and is worth thousands of dollars. I don't own a TV because I prefer to read and so when I began writing about Nibiru Planet X, I naturally went back and searched through these books to find where it was mentioned.

My readers would be stunned to learn that Nibiru Planet X is mentioned in literally hundreds of books, in one name or another throughout history. Ancient myths, legends and stories mention this planet over and over again but of course they describe it in the terms, knowledge and language they used at the time.

Allen W.Eckert

Nibiru News

If you haven't seen or read the Earth got buzzed by three asteroids in the last two days, this is just another sign that our planet is moving into the debris tail of Nibiru Planet X. Ancient stories often describe Nibiru Planet X as a Red Dragon writhing across the skies as it has a huge tail of debris, comprised of iron ore dust and asteroids, both large and small. This dust forms a huge red cloud that trails out millions of miles behind Nibiru Planet X and is also one of the reasons it is so difficult to see with the naked eye.

However why I mention this in this article Hub Pages Community & Nibiru Planet X When Trolls Are Allowed We All Suffer! is because once you begin to understand the nature of this planet, its characteristics and affects it has on our solar system and the planet Earth it is child's play to recognize the stories in our mainstream media pertaining to its presence.

Because it is not just affecting the Earth but all the other planets in our solar system as well. This can be seen by the recent eruption of a volcano on Jupiter's moon Io. Of course NASA has a perfectly reasonable explanation why this eruption occurred and it may very well be correct but I mention it because NASA has a perfectly reasonable explanation for every event in space, including why so many asteroids have buzzed or hit the Earth in the last ten years.

If there is any doubt that NASA lies to the public simply considered how they can take such a clear picture of Jupiter's moon Io, millions of miles further out than our Moon but just can't seem to get one good clear picture of the surface of our Moon.

Volcanic Eruption on Io

This stunning photo shows in great clarity Jupiter's moon Io, so why are all the photos of our Moon so blurry?
This stunning photo shows in great clarity Jupiter's moon Io, so why are all the photos of our Moon so blurry? | Source

Researching Nibiru Planet X

When I got my first computer in 2010, the internet had been operating for almost twenty years and the website ZetaTalk had been up and running for 15 of those years. I didn't find ZT until almost a year later and actually started learning about Nibiru Planet X on the internet while researching how the great Pyramid of Giza was built. This lead me to the wonderful book Maps Of The Ancient Sea Kings (1966) by Charles Hapgood, that mentions the Polar Shift as one explanation for the sinking of Atlantis.

I would much prefer to read a book than to read an internet article, call me old fashion but let's face it folks I was introduced to the internet less than four years ago, so some habits die hard. As I said before, my interest in Nibiru Planet x was sparked many years before the WWW even existed from books that mentioned the subject over and over again such as The HAB Theory by Allan W. Eckert (written in 1976, fiction).

Hub Pages is quick to un-publish or ban any article that uses duplicate material or plagiarizes other people's work and I applaud them for this, as it is a standard I agree with. If you cannot research material, use critical thinking and come to your own conclusions, then in my opinion you have no business writing articles anywhere, let alone Hub Pages. But let's not forget what this article is about, which is slandering other peoples work with impunity.

According to Wikipedia a Troll is In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Let me give you an example of what I deal with everytime I publish an article about Nibiru Planet X on Hub Pages from the horses mouth, now granted I usually just delete the comments because of the blatant negativity but some I tolerate as the price of writing about disturbing topics.

When are you going to do the STO thing and ADMIT that your ideas almost all come from Zetatalk.com and poleshift.ning.com?

It is plagarism to repeat what the Zetas have stated without saying it was not YOUR idea. The Zetas stated that, among many examples of your plagarism, that life will go back to around the 1800s.

It was ZetaTalk that revealed the earth wobble! NO ONE ELSE! So how come you are not saying that every single time you mention the earth wobble? That YOU learned about the wobble from ZetaTalk and did NOT think of it yourself!?

Furthermore, you must provide exact links to information you took from ZetaTalk to be in compliance with the DMCA. Just saying from ZetaTalk is not enough!

Do you actually think you are an STO soul who will graduate to 4D as the Zetas have explained?

I DOUBT IT! Your actions reveal this is all about you! This is all about getting attention for YOU! And you do not care whose efforts and work you must steal from to get it just as long as you get that LITTLE TINY BIT of attention. You know the poleshift.ning. com site you also steal from gets about 45,000 page loads a day? You know that don't you? So why would anyone care what you have to say when all you do basically is STEAL the ideas of others?

Did you plagarize in college too? Assuming you actually went to college?!

In case you are unfamiliar with the term plagiarize, I have included a Wikipedia definition complete with link. This is a serious charge in my opinion and would like to point out that if Hub Pages really thought I was plagiarizing material, I doubt seriously if I could have published over 100 articles on the subject.

Plagiarism is the "wrongful appropriation" and "purloining and publication" of another author's "language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions," and the representation of them as one's own original work. The idea remains problematic with unclear definitions and unclear rules.

Now granted the next comment is from another member that hasn't published anything either but does not engage in disparaging other members and actually adds to the community by leaving links to interesting articles and topics in the comments section of my articles.

I'm not sure who you are directing you comments to but as for me I've witnessed the sun movement since about 2005. Obviously the sun can't move to the extent I had noticed so the only other conclusion is the the earth had a wobble. After checking the wobble through the day and also the night, I was able to ascertain we were on a 12 hour wobble which increases and decreases over a period of time. I found this was easy to work out without any help from others. With this view in mind, I can't see any reason why somethgblue couldn't have come to the same assumptions on his own accord.

Cheers,

I want to make something perfectly clear, I don't mind criticism in the slightest because I see it as an opportunity to learn from my mistakes. I actually encourage you to leave comments so that I might learn different view points, information I hadn't considered and topics that need to be researched and explored. I offer an abundant amount of links to every source I use, that I think others might be interested in or require lengthy explanations too long for the article.

People the world over have noticed, photographed and written about Nibiru Planet X without ever having read anything on the ZetaTalk website. I know this because I am often the one that actually reveales this site to them and most of them have told me they had never heard of it before.

Here is one more comment to show the consistency of this Troll and their tactics.

Still plagarizing ZetaTalk I see.

How come you did not bother to mention how YOU found out about the earth wobble? Is it because YOU, somethgblue, did NOT discover the earth wobble but got the info from Zetatalk.com and do not want to admit it? ONLY the Zetas revealed the earth wobble, not this joker who is only seeking attention for HIM!

Each time you fail to mention you found out about the earth wobble from ZetaTalk you are PLAGARIZING, again!

Before I could respond or delete another user responded to the Trolls comment, so I decided to leave it so as not to break up the continuity of the comments.

How much is Zeta talk paying you? And for what purpose?

Have you ever considered that out of the billions of people in this world that it is possible for more than one person to come to the same conclusion on any one subject?

To have to put up with this persons negativity article after article is growing weary some and yes, I have complained to the Hub Pages staff about this person but obviously my complaints have fallen on deaf ears or eyes as the case maybe.

In the past I haven't been able to refrain from taking the bait offered by this Troll and have publish my own disparaging remarks and negativity in the comments section as an answer to these attacks. For this I apologize to my readers but have refrained from removing them as a way of showing the growth I have gained over my time on Hub Pages.

I've always been a slow learner but eventually recognized that my often clever responses only added fuel to the fire and would change nothing. After all we cannot change others only our own reactions to them.

You can read the entire diatribe by going to Moon Orbit Earth Wobble 2012 and will admit right here and now it isn't my finest hour but will make no excuse for my comments other than to say I have learned from the experience.

If you do go, pay attention to the last three comments by a guest user Sean Leary, as he proves my point and never once mentions the website ZetaTalk or any other website for that matter. In case you missed the point, why should anyone be allowed to become a member, not required to publish anything and then attack others without getting banned?

I think I have shown in this article Hub Pages Community & Nibiru Planet X When Trolls Are Allowed We All Suffer! that I have not plagiarized anyone or any website by showing sources that predates ZetaTalk by more than twenty to thirty years.

Trolls

Are Trolls just those of us that didn't get enough attention as a child and use the internet for their own misplace insecurities?
Are Trolls just those of us that didn't get enough attention as a child and use the internet for their own misplace insecurities? | Source

To Delete Or Not Delete

Now I just delete this members comments because they leave the same comments over and over and over again, without providing anything new or thought provoking. However I really don't understand how this member still exists considering Hub Pages own policies on the matter.

I have talked to other writers that have been banned from forums or gotten reprimands for far less than what this person engages in. Many of these writers have simply moved on to more profitable and less hypocritical sites that actually practice what they preach and ban users for leaving Troll-like comments.

Actually I really don't mind exchanging good natured banter with my readers whether I agree with them or not and the insults don't bother me. What bothers me the most is the accusations of plagiarism or that I get my material from ZetaTalk of all places.

Make no mistake this is a personal agenda as this Troll follows me where ever I go and where ever I publish and get this leaves the exact same rhetoric. What I want my readers to know is that this Troll signed up for Hub Pages 15 months ago and yet to this day hasn't published a single article, despite claiming to be an Nibiru Planet X insider, whatever that means.

This kind of negativity and personal attacks would not be tolerated in any business or work place I have had in the past and present, without serious repercussions and probably someone getting fired. We should treat Hub Pages as if we are all part of the same team and encourage each other to excel, help each other where we can and achieve the goal of returning Hub Pages to its former excellence.

I have never worked for any company that allows other employees to accuse each other of stealing without some sort of intervention or punishment and to tell you the truth, it may just be time to move on if this is the kind of treatment I can expect. After all I have contributed almost 200 articles and hundreds of thousands of readers and yet this Troll has contributed nothing.

If Hub pages truly reviews all the material it publishes I would expect to get a response from this article Hub Pages Community & Nibiru Planet X When Trolls Are Allowed We All Suffer!, but if they don't then it will just be business as usual and we should be able to easily discern why so many have left.

Because when . . . Trolls Are Allowed We All Suffer!

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DrMark1961 2 years ago from The Beach of Brazil

My articles are not controversial like yours, but sometimes a person will leave a nasty comment. I had quite a few of them on the hub about bites, and there are always some on Pitbulls.

Why not change your settings so that comments do not show up until you have approved them? If it is a troll you can just delete the comment. If HP tried to stop the person because of never writing any hubs, the troll would just open up a new account. People get around the ban on the forums like that all of the time.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Agreed, however if one were banned based on their IP address then opening another account wouldn't work. My point and I doubt that you missed it, is that when one signs up but doesn't contribute anything but negativity then are we not as a community endorsing this type of behavior?

I do delete everything they leave on my hubs and the only reason I do it is because they don't add anything positive or new, it is just the same old tired rhetoric over and over again.

However if this person would write a Hub, any Hub on any subject, then they would at least be adding to the overall product we are creating here on Hub Pages.

Thanks for reading, how are things down South?


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DrMark1961 2 years ago from The Beach of Brazil

Yes, but if HP banned the IP address they could just use a proxy. I am sure the trolls know that and would continue to bother you, and, as you point out, never contribute.

Going okay down here, thanks. It is still HOT, so I am looking forward to winter, such as it is.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Any extreme weather events of note or geographical phenomenon that perhaps we should be aware of after all, a lot of World News gets censored through the Fake Stream Media here in the US?


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Nadine May 2 years ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

It is really sad that by sharing our individual experience ,research and insights someone feels the need to accuse a writer for sharing. There is not really an original thought. We are all connected in consciousness, so this individual is just exposing its own ignorance . I love reading your information on NIbiru and have some articles on wikinut on this topic. My own reasons for investigating these topics is purely from a spiritual awakening purpose, and it's great material for a visionary fiction author.

Thank you for being at hubpages.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

I have read those articles on wikinut, as I love to read others thoughts on the subject, however since we do pull from one source, everything that has every been thought by me has been thought of by millions of others as well.

I was just reading about fear and how this author believes it is a choice created by our conscious mind's imagination when confronted with information it doesn't have a clear cut answer for about possible futures. Meaning if we learn to live in the moment, we can live without fear, instead of imagining possible futures.

Obviously danger is all too real but it shows why some people can react to it differently by doing the next right thing, instead of being petrified by their own possible choices.

You should write about your own astral projections, it is a very interesting topic that inherently brings with it some trepidation. Or guide me to some links, books or other sources of info on the subject.

Thanks for leaving a comment and one of your comments helped inspire me to finally start my book about a 'person' that ascends but decides to go back to help others left behind. After a lengthy epic Journey across America he establishes a school high in the Colorado Rockies, where he starts a community of like minded people for the purpose of creating a paradigm of peace in a post Shift scenario.


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Nadine May 2 years ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

About my own Astral travel experiences. I wrote about it in my two novels: the Astral Explorer and the Cosmic Traveler. Yes its fictionalized, but often through story writing can we share information and not be ridiculed for it.

Please get going on your creative writing and share your knowledge through the genre: visionary fiction . I will share whatever I learned over the years about story telling. It's far more difficult than just writing non-fiction articles on the topic of awakening,ascension, evolution... because you need to take the readers on a journey but at the same time your characters and the back ground settings must appear real for the reader. Good luck!


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Yes a daunting task, which is probably why more writers don't try it.


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fpherj48 2 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

blue.....Trolls (bullies, morons, trouble-makers)....are everywhere.....always have been, always will be. Rude, unimpressive and annoying, to say the least, but I think we've all had a visit or 2 from at least one. Because they open accounts with this express purpose, I continue to insist if they are simply deleted and/or ignored completely, they eventually fizzle out. They would have to. How long and how often can anyone, even an ignorant troll, repeatedly smash into an unshakeable barrier without eventually collapsing?? Really, think about it.

Since I pay little attention to the various kinds of generic a$$es here or anywhere, for that matter, I don't know what the cyber name is for the individuals who live to argue, insult and belittle....

What I do know is that 3 specific times in my 3+ years here, I have encountered what I simply refer to as, "Bullies." These are the unpleasant characters who will intentionally join in a discussion with the sole purpose of butting heads with every single commenter, hijack the thread with their own agenda and begin to jab everyone with insults and accusations when all are not in agreement with him/her.

All 3 times, yours truly, "Miss Mighty Mouth" tolerated and ignored for as long as I could and then gave him a couple liters of his own poison. That's when the bully goes running to the Principal and rats me out for "personal attacks" and I get banned. The ban bothers me not. I wind up upset with myself for allowing some jerk to push me to that point.

Well, three strikes and I have learned my lesson well. Should I run into one of these sweethearts again, my only move will be a swift exit.

Just focus on the positive, blue and know that for every jerk like that, there are dozens, perhaps hundreds who truly appreciate and enjoy your work. Looks like there are plenty of them!.....


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

The second to the last paragraph will give you a clue to why I chose 'somethgblue', no it isn't from the ol' wedding song something ol', something new, something borrowed, something blue, guess again.

I used to love to engage them as it gave me a chance to express my clever wit and acerbic sarcasm of which I'm the Universally renown Grand Master undefeated in seven star systems.

However I quickly tired from their pathetic attempts and inane drivel and moved on to move useful endeavors such as contemplating my navel.

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