HubPages VS Associated Content: Which Site Is Better?

HubPages or Associated Content?

HubPages or Associated Content-- What’s the better site for free-lance writers to post their content on? I just completed a ‘head to head” test in January 2009 to try to find out. Will HubPages or Associated Content win? Read on for the gritty details!!

How I Compared HubPages and Associated Content: I’ve been an author on HubPages, the leading user generated content website, for four months, have posted just over 50 Hubs and my current rating is an “expert”. I am very familiar with the HubPages process, navigation and features.

I completed my head to head test of HubPages and Associated Content by writing and posting articles to both, in the same time frame and comparing experiences and results.

I wrote two original articles, “Top 5 Harley Davidson Valentine’s Day Gifts for Men” and “Harley Davidson Valentine’s Gifts For Women”. The articles were about the same length (1,500+ words), same content quality and had the same general themes.

HubPages
HubPages

The HubPages Experience:

I posted the “Harley Davidson Valentine’s Gifts For Women” article on HubPages. I wrote the article, posted it without publishing it, let the Hub score rise to about 65, then published it on January 1, 2009. I also tagged it on Digg and promoted it on one listing on Craiglist.

When I posted the article on HubPages, I was able to format the text, add photos and include a number of relevant Amazon ads. All of these items made the article more interesting and easy on the eyes.

Google Loved it! Within just a few days it was indexed on Google. After the HubPages article was posted for two weeks, it was the number four organic listing for the search string “Harley Davidson Valentine’s Day gifts”. When the word “women” was added to the string, it became number one on Google.

After two weeks the article had a Hub Score of 80 and had received just over 100 views or about 7 views per day. After a full month, the article had just over 260 views or about 9 views per day.

Associated Content
Associated Content

The Associated Content Experience:

Associated Content just launched a redesigned site January 1, 2009. The site has a new look, some new features and is easier to navigate.

Posting Options: When you post to Associated Content you’re given three options. 1) You can submit original, never published before content, request an up front payment and give AC exclusive rights and ownership to the content. 2) You can submit original, never published before content with no up front payment. Similar to Hub Pages, you can change the content at any time. 3) You can publish content you’ve published elsewhere.

For all three options, you also receive payments for every thousand page views or PPVs. This rate varies based on your Author rating and the content itself but is about $1.50 per thousand.

I decided to request an up front payment. I submitted the article "Top 5 Harley Davidson Valentine’s Day Gifts for Men" on January 4 and waited. About a week later they offered me an up front payment of $8.50. You can accept or decline the offer and I chose to accept it. Several days later on January 12, I got an email saying my content was published and my $8.50 was available from PayPal. So, the entire process from submission to being published took eight days.

A few days after my article was posted on Associated Content, Google had yet to index it and it only had 2 views. (I think both were my own!) After a full week, the article was finally indexed on Google (number one in its category) and had 47 views or about 6 per day. By the end of January, my Associated Content views were almost double my Hub Pages views- a total of 430 or close to 23 per day. Based on their PPV payment plan, 430 views equates to $0.65 in payments.

Formatting: Unlike Hub Pages, you can not format your content as it’s posted on AC. You basically submit the text and the article is posted in a standard Associated Content, newspaper like format. Readers can submit comments, but they are not in plain view. There are also no Amazon advertisement options.

If you request an up front payment and give AC exclusive rights, you can not make edits to your article once it’s posted. For the other two options, you can make edits any time.

I Want More Up Front! I was excited about getting the up front money and wanted more! AC has a section on their site called “calls for content” where they list articles, videos, photos and podcasts that they want submissions for. Some offer an up front payment, while most are just pay per thousand views. I “claimed” the article called “Budget Valentine’s Day Gifts For Your Husband” with a $3.00 up front payment. I submitted the article on January 11 and it was published on January 15.

Which Site Won? HubPages OR Associated Content

From a "user experience" perspective and a reader’s perspective Hub Pages is the winner. You can publish content whenever you want and it’s available immediately – no waiting. Authors can format the content to look pretty and to meet their unique style- which makes it easier and more enjoyable for the Hub visitors to read.

However, HubPages has no “pay up front” option. With Associated Content I was able to make as much money on two articles with up front payments, as I do with Google Adsense in a 2 week period (based on 50ish articles). However, I did give up rights to these articles and can not change or publish them anywhere else.

Also, for this type of content after both articles were indexed by Google, the Associated Content article drove more views per day than the Hub Pages version.

Moving forward, I plan to use both article websites. I know as I build my HubPages library, my earnings with Adsense will continue to increase month over month. However, I think there’s an opportunity to make some quick money, on more commercial articles with Associated Content.

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Comments 32 comments

Dan 7 years ago

Nice lessons learned....


pgrundy 7 years ago

This is a great analysis. I've found everything you say here to be true in my own experience--however, I never seem to get around to writing for AC. About once a month I say, "God Pam, you have to start submitting more to AC," and then I never do it. HP has such a friendly user interface--it gets addicitive! Great hub, thanks!


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Reynolds_Writing 7 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia Author

Thanks Pam.. I agree that the user interface at Hub Pages is so much more user friendly... Maybe we can convince HP to start offering some up front payments!


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Froggy213 7 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico

Good hub--I also write a bit for AC, but I love the hubpages experience--Google ranking seems to be much better here:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/168171/frogg...

Thanks for the great hub!


OnlineWriter56 7 years ago

Informative article. I wondered what the difference between Hubpage and AC was and this provides an easy to understand comparison. Thanks.


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Benson Yeung 7 years ago from Hong Kong

Thanks for sharing the test results. My experience was similar. A note to non US residents is that the upfront payment is not available for you and hence the major advantage is gone. I also wrote about my experiences with various writing sites in the following hubs:

The Best Reference On Writing Sites That Pay For Your Articles

Writing sites that pay for your articles

 

cheers, and forgive the very relevant ad.


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hassam 7 years ago from Pakistan

There is also 'flagship hubs' and 'capstone hubs' program in hubpages, which provides upfront payment on high quality articles approved by the admin. You can get 25$ staright away+traffic bonuses+lifetime adsense income.

Hubpages is a great site if one wants to just write and earn.


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Bruce Elkin 7 years ago from Victoria, BC Canada

THank you for this hub. Excellent info, very well written, and all of it useful to me. I appreciate the effort you put into the tests, and then sharing it with us. All the best!


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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia

Hubpages versus who? I had never heard of Associated Content.

Thank you for the very useful information.

It confirms for me that writer market niches are getting competition, which is the way of the internet of course.


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solarcaptain 7 years ago from california

Hubpages is still a little klunky when setting up the hub address. It's probably just me. Everything else has been tweaked to perfection. There is so much latitude in the new hub environment. The instant save is great.  Also there are some great writers here.  For new writers, it is an excellent place to learn and hone your skills. If you are going to learn your craft, don't worry about the money.  My experience is that all needs to go into content and learning how to get traffic.  In time, with practice and reading other writers hubs, going to workshops, and writing for the sake of the art, the money will happen.

Blogging is a paradox.  It is both simple, and exceedingly complex. It is baffling and brilliant. It can be very frustrating. Subjects may be interesting but ignored only to catch on later. Writing may be lonely, while making the writer feel like there is a huge audience waiting for an article.

Congratulations to those behind the scenes who have turned hub pages into a first class blogging medium.  Thanks are in order. I know I will be publishing many hubpages here in the future.

Reynolds writer, much cam be learned from you. Thank you. Ernesthub.You are right, all is improving on the internet. all the posts here are right on.

 


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ajbarnett 7 years ago from Costa Blanca, Spain

Hi Reynolds Writer. (foxy writer???)

I stopped by because Elena commented on a Hub I've just published. She said I'd probably find yours interesting - and I have. Good article, congratulations!

My BIG problem with AC is I'm not a US resident. The payment becomes dismal in comparison to HubPages when you take that into account - which is what I've just written about.

All the best

Anthony


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Daryl Davis 7 years ago from San Jose, CA

Many thanks! It was good to see an actual, head-to-head comparison. You are an excellent writer.

Like Pam, I've had an AC account for months with which I've done nothing. I should really buckle down and get consistent about checking their calls for content.

Daryl


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Reynolds_Writing 7 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia Author

Daryl, Thanks for the comment. You should try both and see how they stack up for your article types....


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WordWielder 7 years ago from Austin

Thank you Reynolds_Writing for taking the time to do this comparative study. I am also a featured writer on Associated Content although my posts have been lacking with them for some time. You seem to really have a grasp on this stuff. Even though I've been writing for many, many years and co-authored a book, I have yet to make any money from Google Adsense or Associated Content. I've joined a few social networking sites too such as Twitter, Facebook, of course, Linked In, Plaxo to name a few. How do I put it all together to get my material out there and actually start making money? I'm having the hardest time just to get people to join my fan club on hubpages! lol. Anyhow, your insight is appreciated. Feel free to read my hubs and join my club! Thanks again.


hubpageswriter 7 years ago

Nicely written..


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sunforged 7 years ago from Sunforged.com

I have done similar experiments but rarely does AC win, a major difference I guess, is that I have never submitted a 1500 word article so my upfronts are usually 5.00 - i have recently written a similar article, if you prefer upfront payments you should pursue the $15 a piece price via DS, I wont toss a link in, but should you be interested Im sure youll find it.

Looks like I should try a couple of longer articles for AC, also AC has a ref program, this article would make me want to join yet there is no link


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StevenCavendish 7 years ago

This is a great analysis and written in a very engaging manner. Well done:)


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vannarith 7 years ago

i can help you to confirm us verified AC account, if you want to earn with AC but you are not a us citizen.

http://adsense-earning-cash.blogspot.com/2009/10/h...


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adrienne2 6 years ago from Atlanta

Hi Reynolds, I liked your comparison of Hubpages and AC. For me Hubpages win hands down. I wrote for AC a year or so ago and did not like it much. I think Hubpages is the best place to write online.


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ptosis 6 years ago from Arizona

I also feel that AC.com has competition from Hubpages. I'm a newbie here after AC.com week long glitch forced me out of my laziness and started looking for other places to write. I enjoy putting pictures withing a story - something I can't do on AC.com. So Planning on focusing on Hubpages for awhile and having fun doing it.


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prey 6 years ago from places you should hope we never meet

hat a great, and well written hub. Must not have been easy with the content you had to focus on confining to a direct message,

Any ways, I loved it and wrote for AC over a year, let's just say ich ich and ich

ha

btw i am a sock puppet to my main account kimberlyslyrics, was just working with prey, she is so weird!

cheers

kimberly


shastawriter 6 years ago from Kingston, ON

Thanks for the great article. I've been trying to decide whether to join Hubpages, AC, or something else and you really helped. Needless to say, I decided to start with Hubpages and see how it goes!


tesleem2 6 years ago

the $15 a piece price via DS, I wont toss a link in, but should you be interested Im sure youll find it.

Looks like I should try a couple of longer articles for AC, also AC has a ref program, this article would make me want to join yet there is no link


tesleem22 6 years ago

ting on Craiglist.

When I posted the article on HubPages, I was able to format the text, add photos and include a number of relevant Amazon ads. All of these items made the article more interesting and easy on the eyes.Thank you Reynolds_Writing for taking the time to do this comparative study. I am also a featured writer on Associated Content although my posts have been lacking with them for some time. You seem to really have a grasp on this stuff. Even though I've been writing for many, many years and co-authored a book, I have yet to make any money from Google Adsense or Associated Content. I've joined a few social networking sites too such as Twitter, Facebook, of course, Linked In, Plaxo to name a few. How do I put it all together to get my material out there and actually start making money? I'm having the hardest time just to get people to join my fan club on hubpages! lol. Anyhow, your insight is appreciated. Feel free to read my hubs and join my club! Thanks again.

Google Loved it!


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Dstiteler 5 years ago from cypress, Tx

very well written hub!

Unlike most, which I skim, I read at least 90%

GREAT JOB


ctbrown7 5 years ago

Nice comparisons. I'm struggling to figure which site is better to focus on.


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Sarah Connor 5 years ago from Washington, DC

Just an additional footnote that the Associated Content website is affiliate with Yahoo. It has an Alexa.com site rank of 1124 and a Google Page Rank of 8. By contrast, HubPages reaches a much larger audience as it carries an Alexa.com rank of 306 (only 305 websites on the Internet receive more traffic than HubPages.com) but the Google Page Rank is 5; which is an indication of how many sites on the Internet link to HubPages.com.

Excellent Hub! Thanks!


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gailalovesbijou 5 years ago from Wyomissing, PA

I typed in Associated Content vs. Hubpages in my search engine just now and your excellent article popped up. Thanks so much! I was just trying to decide on which site to publish my newest article. I'm torn. I like both sites for different reasons and will continue to use both. Great hub! Voted up, useful, interesting--and bookmarked. :)


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safiq ali patel 3 years ago from United States Of America

Engaging hub with a gripping narrative and useful comparison of Associated Content and Hub Pages. Some very useful feedback provided in this hub too.


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MG Singh 3 years ago from Singapore

I think Hubpages is better for the simple reason that AC does not pay writers from outside the United States while HP does.


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Xenonlit 3 years ago

I wish you could update this. I am thinking of going over to AC. Voted up and useful.


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LoisRyan13903 2 years ago from Upstate NY originally from Long Island

Great Hub. I make more money on AC now Yahoo Voices but it would be nice if we can add those extras such as photos, videos and so on

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