A Feasible Working Schedule for writers at HubPages

Sujin Jetkasettakorn @ freedigitalphotos.net
Sujin Jetkasettakorn @ freedigitalphotos.net

We see on the Internet writers of all kinds: From the cold-hearted to the warm-hearted, from the serious to the frivolous, from those with vision to those stuck in the mud of obscurantism.

Particularly in HubPages, from the robot-types providing information to the angel-types providing information AND support, feedback is highly sought and appreciated.

Personally I would love to read all the writings of my known and unknown fellow-writers in HubPages.

Unfortunately, like all other creatures on this planet, I have only 24 hours per day/night to take care of my responsibilities AND of all the balls I have in the air.


Stuart Miles @ freedigitalphotos.net
Stuart Miles @ freedigitalphotos.net

Sharing and discussing my Work Schedule

In this hub I share and discuss my work schedule with the hope that –

  • Newcomers might decide to give it a try;
  • My unknown fellow-hubbers accept my absence in their hubs;
  • My friends forgive me when I miss every other hub they publish, or when I eventually pitch like money to a starving man at sea.

89studio @ freedigitalphotos.net
89studio @ freedigitalphotos.net

Write, publish and share a hub.

Writing, publishing and sharing a hub, in this sequence, are the first To-Do on my list.

All three require quite a lot of time and effort for those with high aspirations. It involves research and the following of all rules, regulations, norms and standards.

Reply on each and every comment received on a hub

Online interaction with fellow-people is just as important and meaningful as direct interaction in real life. What kind of person ignores others, and especially while others are speaking to them?

I may be hyper-sensitive, but I do feel bad when a hubber ignores a comment I’ve left on their hub. “Was my comment of no value, or are they simply rude,” is always a question I ask myself when I get no response on a comment I have posted. The first time may not be intentional; I, too, sometimes miss a comment and don’t ask me how I manage to do this, as I am quite attentive and would never ignore a comment on purpose.

Even when I feel compelled to delete a comment, I would give my reasons via an email-message to the commenter, and NOT with the intention to humiliate them. (Right in the beginning I once sent a negative message to a hubber who had been terribly rude to me, and until today I regret that impulsive, self-humiliating act.)

Stuart Miles @ freedigitalphotos.net
Stuart Miles @ freedigitalphotos.net

Read (and comment on) a hub of each and every hubber who had taken the time to read (and comment on) my hub -

This habit of mine could easily be labelled as ‘Returning-a-Favor’, but as I don’t regard my comments as the dishing out of favors, but as true, supportive participation, I would rather see them as a proof of appreciation of support I have received and/or the interest I honestly have in the writings of my fellow-hubbers.

Sometimes I do read hubs randomly and leave comments, but without any expectation that the particular hubber will take the time to hop over to my corner to ‘repay the favor’. I never GIVE with the hope to receive, but always only to show appreciation of what I have already received. My acts of giving, including my opinions of published hubs, are therefor not to be associated with the word ‘PLEASE’, but with the word ‘THANK YOU’.

In order to keep track I copy the comments displayed in my account under 'comments approved' (sorted by 'date' and NOT by 'hub'.) I copy the comments weekly, then paste it in a Word-Document - a new document for each week, because the document tend to 'freeze' with too many comments. I highlight the comments I have attended to and return to this task as often as possible.


graur razvan ionut @ freedigitalphotos.net
graur razvan ionut @ freedigitalphotos.net

Finish

By the time I am finish reading (and commenting on) the hubs of hubbers who had taken the time to support me by reading my hubs and by giving me the feedback I need, it is again high time to publish another hub.

Sometimes I have an hour or three on my hands for random reading of hubs published by followers I haven’t seen in my corner for a while. I find this extremely rewarding - a bit of 'playing' while working.

I seldom, if ever, get the time to –

Read hubs of hubbers I haven’t met while following my working schedule. Only sometimes I follow a link to a hub with an interesting title that I have accidentally found in my Facebook or HubPages feed. Time for scanning sites/groups-for-writers in search of an interesting hub/article to read, I have, unfortunately, not at my disposal.


Follow people who have decided to follow me after they have not even taken the time to read (and comment on) one of my hubs. Too many beginners are under the (wrong) impression that haphazardly following others is the way to obtain followers. I just don’t have the time to give any attention to them.


Returning Fan Mail. I find Fan Mail from strangers a very awkward way of obtaining my attention. For some reason, maybe egoistically, I do approve them and I do take the time to check the hubber’s profile. If I see interesting titles of hubs, I might follow suit, follow the hubber and send them a note in their Fan Box - ‘Looking forward to read your hubs.’ Of course, they will see me in the comment sections of their hubs after I’ve seen them in mine. I mean, why did they decide to follow me and send me fan mail if they have no intention to read my hubs? When I decide to follow a stranger, it will be AFTER I have read (and comment on) one of their hubs. Spontaneous Fan Mail is something I will only send when I really have a need to ensure a hubber of my admiration. I prefer to keep in mind that a second fan mail replaces the first one I have sent. So I will always check the first one before I replace it.

© Martie Coetser
© Martie Coetser

Facebook

I consider ‘facebooking’ as a social activity and, of course, just an opportunity to announce a hub I have just published. For some reason I hate marketing myself to my friends and family.

From time to time I may post my HubPages profile, or the index of my writings, which I keep updated in a Google-blog – just to confirm that I am still working and not only socializing in CyberSpace.

Keattikorn @ freedigitalphotos.net
Keattikorn @ freedigitalphotos.net

Conclusion


Following a routine -

a work schedule -

is my way of staying sane

while Time flies

at the speed of light

into the past

with half of my

wish-to-do’s

on its wings.

♥♥♥♥


And so I am forever trying to manage my time....

More by this Author


Comments 102 comments

Vincent Moore 3 years ago

I love your schedule and let me be the first to offer my apology for my tardiness and possibly oversight of not returning a comment or even more awful not replying to one. I never mean to not reply, I just get caught up with so many comments, that some slip through the cracks and quite possibly could be a reason why some may have even dropped me as a friend or a follower.

I try my damdest to reply to most of the comments left at my work, however I fully understand what your saying Martie. You know I would never ever ignore you, your my little sista, so sista's do forgive big brothers for having a memory laspe from time to time. Just give me a chance, you know I will come around eventually to your magnificent writes, heck I've been following you for over two years, don't ya think we've been courting long enough, heck we could be married by now. LOL I loved this hub, you have savvy and class my lady. Voted way UP, tweeted and shared. Hugs


Sunnie Day 3 years ago

Good morning Martie,

This was a great hub and timely! I also try to answer each comment but there are days when I have to clump the names together and offer one comment. I do not like it when I do that! I agree, if someone takes the time to comment then we should take the time to thank them. I love the comments as there are so many friends with wonderful thoughts, lifting me up and I always learn something. There are not enough hours in the day to keep up with all the writing sites and I decided long ago I can only do what I can. I refuse to get offended at others should they not grace my pages as I realize they too may be struggling just like me to keep up. I know I have missed hubs, comments and things have slipped through the cracks. You are so right about just following for the sake of following. It should be a thoughtful endeavor so we can lend support to their writings. You are one smart lady and honest too. Thank you for the reminders and voice of wisdom.

Love,

Sunnie


tillsontitan profile image

tillsontitan 3 years ago from New York

Oh Martie, how alike we are. You have stated my sentiments so well. I always reply to a comment, I feel its the least I can do for someone who has taken the time to read my hub and leave a comment. I want them to know I've read their comment and appreciate it.

Writing hubs takes a lot of time and having a lot of friends (followers) also takes a lot of time. Fortunately for me I am retired, unfortunately for me so is my husband ;) I cannot always spend as much time as I would like on HP but do my best to keep up with my friends and comments. This is a great hub Martie and we love you ... comments or no comments :)

Voted up, useful, and interesting. Wish there was a 'warm' and 'honest' button.


marcoujor profile image

marcoujor 3 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

Since I am so in tune with you, it is as if we are in the same orchestra...

I believe you have communicated your message beautifully, guides that are truly a help to new and seasoned hubbers alike.

I am going to read your comments here and there to see if you will be preaching to the choir, dear Sista!

Voted UP and UABI...Hugs, Maria


Faith Reaper profile image

Faith Reaper 3 years ago from southern USA

Oh, how can I ever relate to this hub! Thank you for writing this important message on managing one's time spent here on HubPages. I work away from home over ten hours a day during the week, so I rise early around 5:00 a.m. (and sometimes try to comment very early before leaving my home) and arrive back home (where my computer is) after 6:00 p.m. or later, depending upon any necessary errands. I, too, comment back to every comment I receive on my hubs, and I admit, I have missed one or two, but as soon as I notice, then I comment right away . . . unless there is some type of life emergency going on at the time, then I try to let my readers know on my profile page I will be off-line a bit and send an email to my closest and trusted friends. On my lunch break sometimes at work, I will approve a comment, but am unable to comment back at that time as it blocks me from doing so. And if I am not careful to make a note of such comment having been made at that time, there is a good possibility of it leaving my mind with all else going on in my life . . . running a household, family issues and just life in general. Therefore, periodically, I scan through my hubs to make sure I have commented on each comment I receive, and now I make sure I write that reminder note and comment in return straight away when I arrive home as soon as humanly possible! If I realize somehow I have missed a comment, I immediately e-mail that person to apologize for the oversight, as I value the time they have taken to read and make a comment, as it surely takes time out of one's life to do so.

In the past, I would stay up so late attempting to write and comment, but with having to get up so early for my hour commute to and from work during the week, I must set a reasonable time to get to bed. I try to catch up with writing a hub if possible on the weekends if my grandchildren are not up for the weekend, and we usually have them up every other weekend, so . . .

Right now I am working on a poem, and many think, well that is easy enough, but the subject matter is sensitive, and I always want to make sure I have taken my time in writing just want I want to communicate and not to publish to just publish.

Thank you, dearest Martie, for this "timely" piece here.

Most excellent write.

Voted up ++++ and sharing

Hugs and love your way. In His Love, Faith Reaper


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi my dear Vincent, you are indeed my (step)brother online and could have been my hubby by now if it was not for the Atlantic Ocean. LOL! Please, don't feel bad because you've neglected me along the line..... don't pay attention to my sobs. (lol!) Somehow I am able to feel positive and negative vibes of fellow-hubbers, and believe me, I have (not yet) felt any negative vibes coming from you, and not even in your silence. It is not easy to keep up with all comments, especially not for 'party-animals' like we. For 3 years now I am unsuccessfully trying to keep my comments short! Take care Vincent. Have a catemba on me :)


web923 profile image

web923 3 years ago from Twentynine Palms, California

This was very interesting and useful. Being a 'newbie' I often find myself caught between two worlds and struggling to find adequate time for each and a good balance between the two. You offered some great guidelines and advice on how to balance the two. Thank you!


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Sunnie, we are so on the same page. I find communication with others in the comment sections of hubs absolutely delighting, and especially with my kindred souls. We do, indeed, discuss topics thoroughly and share ideas properly. I admire marcoujor's way of clumping names in a comments, changing it into a lovely piece of written art; I actually copy-cat her from time to time. Thanks for your much appreciated visit and supportive comment, my dearest Kimmie :)


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi my dear Mary of Tillson, I am actually giggling, knowing exactly what you mean with 'unfortunately husband is also retired'. They do take up a lot of our time, don't they - but always and forever until Death (in any form) do us part, our 1st priority. Unfortunately I am only semi-retired, still working from 8-1, and fortunately I am divorced with independent adult children and a very busy boyfriend who is spoiling me totally rotten whenever he gets the time - about 3 hours per day when I calculate an average. My only problem is that I am a glutton when it comes to writing and socializing on an intellectual level and I can't stand rudeness. I think the main reason why I published this hub was to ensure everybody that I would have loved reading (and commenting on) every single hub published on this site, but Time honestly does not allow me to. Thank you so much for your warm and honest support, Mary :)


SilverGenes 3 years ago

You've hit it out of the park with this one, Martie! Time is the big problem for me but there is no way I would ever ignore a comment on my hubs. It's just impolite to ignore people and I've felt terrible when I've missed a couple and been late in responding. I love to read comments on other hubs - the interaction between people brings it all to life. In a perfect world, I would have time to read each and every hub my friends publish but sometimes there aren't enough hours in the day to breathe properly and I'm sure there are some who must think I'm ignoring them. Not so!

You are right about FB and some of the other social sites. There are some terrific writers' groups on there but promoting my work in there feels like the guy trying to sell a quart of milk at a dairy convention. It's just awkward and I'm uncomfortable 'pitching' to family and friends, too. I'm framing this hub for my old-age (right now) so I can relax about being slow...LOL.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi my most dearest marcoujor, you know that I am always following this routine, and I know you are also an advocate for a systematic working order. But as much as I love routine, I love surprises and unplanned adventures. I actually stick to a schedule until someone surprises me with a message in my inbox or a personal visit. I must admit that I enjoy bunking off from work, therefor I am always in a 'catching up with tasks in arrears mode'. Have a good Sunday, my dear sista :)


kallini2010 profile image

kallini2010 3 years ago from Toronto, Canada

I think it is interesting to have a manifesto of sorts - of how you handle your HP activity, but I would say that a writer might be as warm-hearted as you, Martie (and I don't mean "the mean" me), but there might be issues of energy or time or both.

Soon enough, things get into the state of stable equilibrium - you can write only so much, you can read only so much and you can socialize only so much.

But I think if you put a link to this hub to your profile it would be easier for your new friends to understand you better from the very beginners.

Follower-hunters are not readers by definition, so no need to worry about them.

Like "seasons come and seasons go", "followers who don't read come and they go"!

Have a nice Sunday,

kallini 2010


billybuc profile image

billybuc 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

I agree completely. It took me about six months to realize that it was impossible for me to follow everyone who follows me, so I had to make some tough decisions, and those decisions are based on comments and faithful following by others. There is no other way to do it and retain a semblance of sanity. Thanks for sharing this. I have seen quite a few newcomers lately who do not bother to follow and comment; that is not going to build relationships on this site.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

My dearest Faith, you and I are so much alike it is actually scary. I know exactly what life you are living up there. Until beginning 2011 I had 2 jobs plus writing and not to mention family. Because I always had too much balls in the air, I suffered Burnout every 9-10th year - with a recovering period of 2 years, and not at home resting, but only functioning slower with the support of medicine. Please google that horrible condition called Burnout and make sure you take good care of yourself. I've slept only 3-4 hours per night for more than 2 decades, but this boyfriend of mine (since March 2012) has steered me out of this unhealthy habit. Thank heavens! Now - when I am alone - I switch off at midnight - only now and then I disobey my own rules, just to suffer the entire morning in office! (Yes, in love or not in love, I am not willing to share a home 24/7. Being single for 20 years, I treasure my 'private territory'.) I have also quitted 'hubbing' before I leave home in the mornings for work - because it made me always turn up late for work and triggered unpleasant feelings of guilt and incompetence. Faith, you are such a lovely, adorable friend. Thank you for being mine as well :)


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi web923, welcome at HubPages and in my corner. I can't think of a better 'hubbing' schedule than this one of mine, and if there is one, I would surely like to try it. I look forward to read you, and hopefully very soon.

I am following this schedule with diligence, but reality is always my first priority. Interaction with people in real life and doing things in real life are more important than a virtual life in CyberSpace, even when the latter is sometimes less complicated and more pleasant. Thank you so much for confirming my idea that my schedule might be appreciated by newbies. (I just realized that I've spelled 'newbies' wrong in my summery.)


ImKarn23 profile image

ImKarn23 3 years ago

Martie - in your amazingly adorable and crazy way-you're one of the sanest people i know!

Your organizational skills and dedication are highly commendable - and your sense of fair play where hubpages is concerned - as well..

i wish i had more time to read people who either don't read me - or new hubbers, but - i'm not as organized as you are..lol..

i too find it bemusing when i am 'followed' by someone who hasn't read me..what up with that? lol

i also understand when a person is crazy busy and just CANT read - and yet - her work may simply be irresistible..

hmmmm...

have a great sunday, my friend..


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

SilverGenes – my dear friend! You were in the beginning and will always be a good example and role model for me, and I am always thrilled to know that you are in agreement with me. I must admit that I don’t pay much attention to comments on the hubs of my fellow-hubbers, unless the topic is controversial and highly debatable. Oh, and I would of course take the time doing this in a new friend’s corner, in order to determine their mindset and personality – in fact, to learn if we are kindred spirits. Sometimes I miss a lot of exciting drama in a comment section. Oh, and you know, I love drama; I am a drama queen. Lol! Take care, dear Alexandra!


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

My dearest friend, kallini2010, without energy no-one would be able to follow any schedule. And you know I know all about being without energy. You always thrill me with your most intellectual, profound and philosophical comments. Knowing your condition, makes me appreciate you so much more.

Sadly, followers are like seasons. Fortunately I have bonded with the most loyal friends – When you go back to a hub of mine, written when I celebrated my 1st year in HubPages, and also the one I’ve written on my 2nd year, you will see many hubbers who are still members of ‘my clan’.

I must admit that loyalty is perhaps the highest and most essential requirement I have for a friend, so I cannot help but losing my respect for people who have managed to obtain my loyal friendship just to drop me because they’ve ‘had enough of me’. I then feel used and sometimes even abused. I do understand that people move on, I do understand that people can become fed-up with me. But somehow I still expect a decent ‘goodbye and thank you for what you’ve meant for me’. Whether my meaning was positive or negative. After all, we are each other’s teachers AND students. I really detest rude, ill-mannered people. Of course, they will never know this, and if they happen to learn it some way or another, they will in any case not give a damn. Fortunately I tend to make more good and loyal friends than bad ones. You will notice that the latter are takers and not givers; when they do give, they do it with a secret agenda to take as much as they can from you. Don’t ever say you were not warned by me! Lol!

Svetlana, I really don’t have any desire to be understood by each and every one crossing my path. Oh, for a very long time in my life I was hungry for recognition, but I have eventually reached the stage where I know that most people will never be able to understand me. Only true kindred spirits are able to understand each other, and fortunately we meet many of them in CyberSpace.

I hope you are having a peaceful Sunday up there in the cold. I am sitting under my aircon in 16ºC – Now 7:45pm and still very hot outside.


Sunshine625 profile image

Sunshine625 3 years ago from Orlando, FL

Thank you SAA for speaking for me also! Even though not intentionally, but I agree with many of your points. There is only so much time in a day and life's priorities always, always come before HP. I am guilty of not always responding to comments, but I always do my best to hop on a hub of a fellow hubber who posts a comment. If they could give me a few minutes of their time, the least I could do is give them my time. In the past month I have cut back on my hubbing time. I try to give at least one hour per day to reading and commenting. Some days I might have a few extra minutes. I do the best I could do. Also I agree with newbies following mega hubbers and not bothering to visit. I have never followed one back. It's not about the quantity of followers you have, it's about the quality. I so appreciate you taking the time to create this hub to allow us to express our opinions. You rock SAA! I could go on, but I've taken enough of your time ;)


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi billybuc, one of my New Years resolutions is to cut the hubbers I follow regularly to 80. How on earth is anybody able to follow more than 80 writers? And even 8o are too much. My inbox, getting flooded daily with notifications of hubs published and new comments on hubs I forgot to unfollow after I've read the reply on my comment, is a great source of my stress. Relationships between authors MAKE HubPages. Writers not in need of friends will not feel at home in HubPages. And this is why I am still a hubber. Take care Billy. Oh, and I hope to submit my short story in time for your fabulous contest.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

ImKarn, my naughty girlfriend, always making me smile. Yes, I do follow one ore three of those cold-hearted robot-kind-of-hubbers and just because they produce interesting information. To be honest, I enjoy the opportunity they give me to only take without giving anything of myself in return. They help me to understand, and sometimes even envy, people doing the same to me. Fortunately, Leslie, there is a place for each and everyone under the sun. Take care, you rascal! (Puff-puff-pass....)


Cyndi10 profile image

Cyndi10 3 years ago from Georgia

I love your schedule and your advice. You are so right about the time in the day - just not enough. While the heart may be willing, time doesn't always allow me to read or comment on some of the prolific offerings of the hubbers I follow. I do try to read them, however. I most certainly leave a return comment for anyone who has left a comment for me. I appreciate these because I realize others may have incredible schedules also and they have taken the time to leave a message about my work.. That is so important to me.

I follow those whose work I like, who write about subjects I'm interested in and who can teach me something with their insights and knowledge.

Good article. So glad you posted this.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Sunshine, my most favorite friend from Orlando, I know you also follow this routine, but more effectively than I. You have me most of the time in awe of you and everything you manage to accomplish in one day. Just know you've got a fan in me. I've noticed that you've cut your time in CyberSpace, and so understandable. Of course, reality and life's issues always-always come first.

Linda, please, don't ever-ever forget that I have you all the time on my mind. You are one of my 'imaginary friends', always in my presence. I am talking to you and you know what I am saying - exactly what you need to hear. Lots of warm, sunny hugs to you.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Cyndi, I am so glad that you, too, can relate to this always-challenging issues called Time and Time Management. I remember only one year in my life when I had absolutely almost nothing to do, and I thought I was going to die of boredom. The first year of my marriage. So I prayed almost every day, "Please, God, please make me busy." Now that was a prayer that was answered before the end of that year, and ever since then God never stopped answering it. Lesson learned decades ago: Be careful what you pray.

Thanks for your comment, Cyndi :)


mckbirdbks profile image

mckbirdbks 3 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

Happy Sunday Martie, anyone assembling an orchestra has got to allocate their time properly. You established rules that work for you here at the Hubpage. Your comments are so full of thought and generally on target for whoever’s Hub you happen to be on. Your style keeps you in the upper echelons in the cadre of writers who have flocked to Hubpages.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Thank you, mckbirdbks, your approval really counts. What more can I say? I was just attacked in one of my hubs by a hubber with no content and a score of 12. I must say I am a bit shocked. I think I need a double-coffee at Em's.


Sunshine625 profile image

Sunshine625 3 years ago from Orlando, FL

I hear you, more often than you think I do. Thank you :)


tillsontitan profile image

tillsontitan 3 years ago from New York

Hugs sista!


mckbirdbks profile image

mckbirdbks 3 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

Hello Martie, someone with a score of twelve has no idea what it takes to reach the level you have reached. Don't give them one thought. Don't hesitate to delete their comment. Enjoy your Sunday.


Rosemay50 profile image

Rosemay50 3 years ago from Hawkes Bay - NewZealand

This is something all of us can relate to Martie. Thank you for publishing this. It is so important to aknowledge each other and feedback on our writing is a good way of learning and improving.

Your schedule is so like mine. The first thing I do when I come to HP is go to my account to see if there are any comment need respoding to, so important to say 'thank you', I then open the profile page of everyone who has commented in a new tab and work my way through them to see if they have published something new, and I visit them just to let them know that I appreciated their visit to my little corner.(So if Google analytics tells you someone stayed on your profile page for 3 hours you'll know it was me. Lol).

We all have busy lives outside of HP and it is impossible to keep up with everyone and comment on all of their hubs especially if they publish daily. I comment on as many as time will allow and hope that friends will forgive me if I am a little late, but I will get there eventually.

As for 'Follow chasers' I have no time for these and do not follow back and I am also in the process of 'unfollowing' a few who no longer keep my interest.

What I find disheartening is when I follow someone religiously and comment on almost every hub but they never or rarely read my hubs or suddenly stop visiting, makes me wonder if my writing is not interesting or not good enough and I really don't need that sort of negativity.

Yes I enjoyed reading your article Martie and it is good to see that many of us think the same way.


always exploring profile image

always exploring 3 years ago from Southern Illinois

Martie you have hit it out of the ball park with this timely hub. I dearly love to read and comment on hubs that i enjoy reading and i feel really good when someone reads a piece i have written and leaves a great comment. I am not such a happy camper when i receive a new follower who never bothers to read one thing i have written, yet expects me to comment on a hub that is written purely for profit, do not get me wrong, there is absolutely nothing improper in writing for money, except when the content has no heart, only statistics of a little known product. I have been know to delete a hub. I will listen and debate one time, but when they come back to ridicule, i take great pleasure in clicking the button. Funny how we grow as individuals and are able to discern true followers as opposed to absurd debaters. Shall i venture to say that we have come a long way from needing approval in every thing that was dear to us in the beginning? I think we have found our wings and we ' gonna ' fly any way the wind might decide to take us. Lots of love and respect to my first friend who welcomed me to this wonderful world of writing...Hugs..


fpherj48 profile image

fpherj48 3 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Martie, How beautifully (of course) you have said what so many of us feel. As of late, I've found my Hub time is getting slimmer and slimmer, due to my real life. This disappoints me, but it is what it is. My intentions are always the best and like you, I've found it necessary to create a sort of schedule, to make life easier and see to it, I'm corresponding with my dearest fellow-hubbers.

It's always a pleasure to hear from someone and know they are appreciating our work. I try to focus on those who are faithful and all the many hubbers who have become so dear to me.....which, as you know, you are one of them

A very sincere and supportive hub, Martie...Thank you, sweet Ram-sister....and Bless you....UP+++


Sharyn's Slant profile image

Sharyn's Slant 3 years ago from Northeast Ohio USA

Would this schedule also be called a "vicious cycle?" (just kidding) I can't seem to keep a writing schedule even if my life depended on it. I am, however, very responsible when it comes to responding to comments left on my hubs. More and more lately, I tend to not even bother reading hubs of writers who I know do not respond to comments left on their hubs. I know, people have there reasons for not doing so, but I have never been able to really get past that. It does bother me. And the busier I am (now working outside the home also), I just don't have the time to give of myself with a thoughtful read/comment if I know it will not be acknowledged. I've always felt if someone takes the time to comment on my hub, I want you to know that I appreciate your time and feedback. And when I get a new follower, I do go to their profile and check them out. If I don't see subjects that interest me, I do not follow back. And fan mail, I love what you said about it. It made me giggle. I have many thoughts about how fan mail is kind of backwards, but I don't have time for that, ha.

Thanks for this very well expressed hub Martie.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Thank you, mckbirdbks! Her aggressiveness shocked me. I am a born fighter and vicious defender of what's precious to me, but for a long time now I am no longer used to (addicted to) the adrenaline rushes provoked by people not in agreement with me. But she came back with a better attitude and we could end the argument peacefully.

The reason why I will not delete her comment is my belief that parents should know that Tovim & Boyd are not gods in the world of music. There are many ideologies in all sectors of life and every individual has the right to believe and practice whatever they chose. At the end, what really matters, are achievements, development, positive results, success.

"All roads lead to Rome."

"Where lucidity reigns a scale of values become unnecessary." (Camus)

Thanks again! I did need some moral support.

(Now Monday morning 8:20am in office, facing a lot of boring chores, but stealing half and hour to reply on comments.)


Saire Schwartz 3 years ago

This is my first HubPages comment! I hope I do this right...

First, I loved the honesty in your hub. It was amusing to me where you wrote, "Too many beginners are under the (wrong) impression that haphazardly following others is the way to obtain followers. I just don’t have the time to give any attention to them", I literally laughed at loud to that because I could identify with it in some regard.

On social networking sites, I/we find a great deal of people just following to be followed back in return and it's sort of ridiculous. Especially when you DO follow them back (to be nice) then their items are now all over your "newsfeed", polluting your airways, if you will. None of it interesting, either. You soon regret being nice. I find this a lot over at Tumblr.

The YouTube musical files you included in your hub, which I listened to while reading, made the content of your hub all the more amusing to me.

Just so you know, I followed you because I like your content.

Cheerio!


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Rosemary, I know exactly what you're talking about - "What I find disheartening is when I follow someone religiously and comment on almost every hub but they never or rarely read my hubs or suddenly stop visiting…”

Properly raised as Christians, we are too kind to everybody in our universe, while too many of them don't deserve any kindness at all. It really takes a lot of guts to quit being kind to unkind people. We should be more selective and not afraid of those spots of rudeness on our good reputation. I am forever working on this.... And really, I must admit, Rosemary, cutting unkind people out of my life, is the best thing I always do to my vulnerable Self. Hard work, but success is possible and sweeter than honey.

Take care, Rosemary! Be RUDE! Don’t ever-ever again read the hub of an unkind hubber unless they read you first :))


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Always, oh, you and I have grown a lot in HubPages. Remember the beginning? When we were 'twins' and so terribly vulnerable? We have so much in common, dear Ruby, and yes, our wings are now strong and we are flying all over on our own. But always-always bonded with the unbreakable chords that exist between people who have gone through the same mills of fire (whether at the same time or years before or after each other). Hugs to you, my dear Ruby. Have a lovely week.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

fpherj, my dear fellow-Ram, it seems to me that this schedule of mine is quite an obvious procedure, spontaneously followed by anyone in need of a daily agenda and organized schedule. At this moment I feel extremely uncomfortable - In spite of taking care of continuous crises pouring down on me - as always! - I am now stealing too much Time from my boss. So I will have to work for the next 3 hours at the speed of daylight to meet the working schedule I am supposed to follow for him on a Monday morning..... Lol!

Oh boy, pulling myself by the hair out of here.

Thank you so much, effer, for being one of my loyal friends who never blame me when I turn up late at your hubs....


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi dear Sharyn's Slant, I am saying ‘amen’ on every sentence in your comment. I, too, have/had a friend or three who don’t consider the acknowledgement of comments to be important, or at least polite. It normally takes me some time to finally come to the conclusion that my opinion is of no importance to them – if it is, and they don’t have the decency to thank me, then why waste my time giving it? And then, as things go, I will reckon that if they are not interested in my opinions/ideas/knowledge about the topic, why should I waste my time reading theirs? I mean, we have hundreds of interesting hubs to read and discuss with their author. I am an energetic participator in conversations; if I can’t participate I simply find another more lively conversation.

If I was not Me, but only a reader keeping my opinions for myself and a writer publishing my knowledge and ideas without the desire to discuss them with readers, I would not have been a member of HubPages where we do practice ‘sharing’ and not only giving and taking.

Thanks for sharing your opinion about my working schedule. I do believe that hubbers not following a working schedule and not relating to my way of ‘hubbing’, enjoy hubbing just as much as I do. We are, after all, individuals with unique likes and dislikes.

Take care, Sharyn. I look forward to enjoy one of your hubs asap.


poshcoffeeco profile image

poshcoffeeco 3 years ago from Cambridgeshire

Hi Marti and thanks for linking to my article. I have done the same but have linked via the body of text. Just love this article, great pics and nice use of video/music at the start.

Shared, voted, pinned, tweeted and Fbooked.

Have a super week!


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Saire, I feel honored to be the 1st hubber receiving a comment from you. I know the frustration caused by items we are not interested in 'polluting' our newsfeed/airways, and when those items belong to people we really like, the frustration turns into sadness and a lot of inner conflict. Isn't Life too short to be nice all the time? Can we really accommodate all people we like as friends? Who is in charge? We with our sober minds or our abilities?

So good to know you are now following me because you like my content, and now I am on my way to follow you, looking forward to read your hubs. Cheerio (was one of my father's favorite greetings).


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Posh, good to know we are on the same page. Thanks for the tweets-of-all-sorts. Carpe diem!


sholland10 profile image

sholland10 3 years ago from Southwest Missouri

Hi Martie! A timely hub! I always respond to my comments. I may take a day or two to get to them, but I do get to them. One or two slips every few months and I feel terrible about that. The one thing I am trying to work on is reading hubs by those who faithfully leave comments on my hubs. Time and memory does not always allow this, but I do try.

Great hub with a great message! :-)


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi sholland, having problems with my memory as well. Too many things on my mind. What I do: I go to my account - comments - then sort 'approved' comments according to date. Then I copy the most recent comments, paste them in a Word Doc and save on my hard drive. What I mean with 'most recent' is the comments I haven't already saved in Word. Checking the Word-doc and highlighting the comments I have followed up with a read/comment, is the easiest way for me to keep track. Thanks for sharing your take on this, sholland. Much appreciated!


lrc7815 profile image

lrc7815 3 years ago from Central Virginia

What a great hub. I too try to be organized and often find there is too little time to get everything done that I would like. It is hard to balance writing, reading, and all the comments that are part and parcel of Hubpages. Add a blog or two and yikes, time slips away. I finally decided to forfeit the writing of one hub each week and I spend that time reading hubs of writers I have yet to connect with through my comments. Not only have I discovered some really good writers but I've learned so much about things I knew little about and, it has been a healthy break from the intense schedule.

Thanks for writing this one. You have perfectly described a writer's dilemma and offered wonderful suggestions that can help all of us.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Irc, you have summarized the entire issue with your words, ".... a writer's dilemma." Lets face it, 99,9% writers ARE readers. The 0,1% writers who are not readers, still have to wake up in the world of writers. But all readers are not writers. Add these facts to the reason why writers write, we can't help but come to the conclusion that reading is more important than writing. Something in the line of knowing that we can read without writing but not write without reading. Oh boy, who was first, the chicken or the egg? Thanks for your supportive comment, Linda. Much appreciated.


rasta1 profile image

rasta1 3 years ago from Jamaica

I found your hub while doing my hub reading routine. This hub is fascinating because all hubbers can relate. I will then check your profile, then read a couple more hubs.


mary615 profile image

mary615 3 years ago from Florida

If I open my HP in the morning and I have NO comments, I am so disappointed! I feel very unloved and unwanted (just kidding). I do love my comments and I love to respond to them, too. I wrote a silly Hub about why do we unfollow Hubbers. I have a couple of reasons.

You and I are on "the same page" on this subject.

Voted UP, etc.


drbj profile image

drbj 3 years ago from south Florida

Your significant discussion of establishing a schedule for hub commenting, reading and writing could not be more timely, Martie. The only problem is that there are simply not enough hours in the day to read all the hubs I want to and comment on them as well as respond to EVERY comment on mine.

So I may just adopt a new format. Next month will be reading hubs. Then a month of commenting on others' work. Followed by a month of answering comments on my hubs. Then ... wait a minute, I forgot to include the time for writing my own hubs. Then ... have to take a break now, I hear a chocolate cookie in the pantry calling my name.


Vickiw 3 years ago

Hello Martie, what an important article. It will be helpful for so many people. I think I had worked out some of this, as a newbie, and it is great to have my thoughts confirmed by an experienced Hubber. I tend to be a plodder, and like most of us, life also interferes with writing a lot! I guess I will have to be a very systematic plodder to succeed. And then,of course I will have to decide what success actually means to me. If I can answer that question I will be a happy Hubber! Thanks for an interesting and thought provoking Hub. Great work!


Paul Maplesden profile image

Paul Maplesden 3 years ago from Asheville, NC

Great article! I completely agree with the importance of having a regular schedule (like you, I like to put time aside each day for HP activity). Although I haven't been here long, it's very clear that the main value of the HP community is obtained through interaction - You get what you give.


hoov45 profile image

hoov45 3 years ago from Denham Springs, Louisiana

I liked it Martie. Good stuff here. I think what makes Hubpages work so well is that the members support each other. I think I overlooked how important that was for a while but not anymore. Keep up the great Hubs.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

@ rasta1 – I must say, it is not easy to keep up with this routine. Sometimes responsibilities and people in real life keep us extremely busy, then it takes TWO days to reply on a comment. But rather late than never, I say. Thanks for your comment!

@ mary615 – in the beginning HP-comments were the very 1st thing I’ve checked in the mornings, and actually right through the day AND when I woke up during the night. But somewhere along the road I found my balance – one foot in reality and the other one in CyberSpace. Lol!

@ drbj – Oh no! That plan of yours will not work, because then I will see you only twice a year in my corner. Yes, I hear that cookie calling your name, and the one next to him is calling mine..... :)

@ Vickiw – You may call me a systematic plodder. Lol! The most important is, indeed, to determine your purpose and goal as a writer in HubPages. Then go for it!

@ Paul Maplesden – that is a perfect slogan for HubPages: “You get what you give.” But not always. Sometimes one gives in vain. But we shall certainly get nothing if we don’t give. If HubPages has not given us the opportunity to interact with writers all over the world, I would not have been here. Promise.

@ hoov45 – For Newbies it is not that easy to learn the ‘gentleman’s agreements’ in HubPages. So I really hope that this hub and its comments will be read by them before they become disheartened.


Fossillady profile image

Fossillady 3 years ago from Saugatuck Michigan

Boy, you said it Martie, Many of us are busy bees trying to stay afloat. I was gone for over a year because of overtime and sat in front of a computer most the day. Last thing I wanted to do when I got home was sit in front of a computer another two to three hours. Now, I'm unemployed, but found part time work . . . so glad to be back at the hub. I had missed the connection with my hub friends and noticed that most of them are still plugg'n away here. They have all been very warm and welcoming me back which I appreciate a great deal. I understand your time dilemma and glad you got it out there because I find myself in the same boat. Hoping for all the best to come your way! Fossi aka Kathi :O)


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Fossi, so good to see you in my corner again. Maybe one day I will have the opportunity to write and read 24/7. In the meanwhile I am trying my best to burn both ends of the candle without losing my balance. One never forget old friends; when they return, the time they were gone does not exist. Take care, dear Kathi :)


Denise Handlon profile image

Denise Handlon 3 years ago from North Carolina

okay, following Vincent's apology, let me be the second to apology for my lax reading/commenting. It is exactly what you describe here. Great hub and I was just contemplating this same dilemma for myself and wondering what the solution might be.

I had to smile about the choices of music. As soon as I heard the little melody at the beginning of Ms. Francis's song it brought back memories! Great choice, as well as the dance of the bumblebees. ha ha

Rated up and U/I/ and asking forgiveness. :)


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Denise, I believe we are all doing our best to be productive writers AND supportive followers of productive writers at the same time. I am forever 'catching up', forever tardy when it comes to reading and commenting. And then so many of our friends are also bloggers. Sometimes I just have to drop what I could not finish and start all over on the specific day. Sometimes I even have to neglect and even forget a writer I love to read. So I don't think it is a matter of 'asking for and giving forgiveness', but a matter of understanding and conquering one's own selfish Self and sensitive Ego. Looking forward to read you!


Nikk0 profile image

Nikk0 3 years ago

I will be taking your advice! Thanks for the great article - there is some very humbling information there. I can tell your write with heart!


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Nikk0, nice to meet you. This schedule really works for me. Thanks for giving it a try :)


KoffeeKlatch Gals profile image

KoffeeKlatch Gals 3 years ago from Sunny Florida

Martie, this is a wonderful hub. I have to agree, there are not enough hours in the day to read all, comment all, and follow all that we would like to. I love your schedulke. It's very similar to mine. Up and awesome.


RTalloni profile image

RTalloni 3 years ago from the short journey

Excellent points. You've put important stuff in good order here. Though I try to keep these concepts in mind, this will be a good post to come back to once in a while, good stuff to refer to every so often--and to refer others to. Thanks!


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Thanks, Koffee, we can but only do our best :)


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

RTalloni, HubPages has a specific nature, and many Newbies tend to enter with the wrong idea. Let's hope they manage to find this hub before they get that awful feeling of being a failure. Take care! I'll see you in your corner soon.


Jools99 profile image

Jools99 3 years ago from North-East UK

Martie, this is very useful to ALL new hubbers. I am commenting to 'return the favour' you have just done me of reading the latest of my hubs. Successful hubbing is as much a matter of courtesy as of keeping readers interested. One good turn deserves another and all that....and my schedule is not unlike yours. I try to get to view as many as I can, comment on them and share when I like them. I have been unwell for the last 3 weeks and am enjoying finally doing some writing and catching up on others' hubs - I feel like I've been away forever.


thougtforce profile image

thougtforce 3 years ago from Sweden

Martie, I love your schedule and this hub tell both new and old hubbers how it is to be a hubber:) There is no way we can be everywhere, not if we have a life outside hub pages. I used to almost feel anxiety if I missed a new hub from my fellow hubbers so I had to take a long brake from here. It simply wasn't fun anymore, only stressful. Unfortunately, I have never been able to do something halfhearted and tend to set too high standards for myself. Now I take part without feeling stressed out but unfortunately my time is much more limited than before due to longer commute time to work each day. I was very glad to find this hub on my feed today since this is just how I would like to schedule my time here. Maybe I could buy an iPad or something and do some hubbing on the bus! Sadly the iPhone is a bit to small for hub reading with my eyesight! I think about you and all my hub friends almost daily even though I am not present here like before and I miss the interaction.


sallieannluvslife profile image

sallieannluvslife 3 years ago from Eastern Shore

Hi Martie, I am so very glad that I have found you on hubpages...this is a brilliant and very helpful hub....I've been on hubpages for 2 years now and still feel like a newbie...I am learning so much - it is a wonderful community to be a part of....I'm off to read some more!


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

@ Jools - So sorry to hear you've been not well, but at the same time glad to see you are up and about again. Somebody reckoned that 'returning the favor' seems to be an unpleasant obligation. I did not agree with him, as I see it as the perfect scheduled opportunity to obtain knowledge and to have meaningful interaction with my fellow-hubbers. Due to many reasons I am most of the time far behind my schedule. But I also believe in 'rather late than never'. Thanks for returning the favor, Jools :)

@ thoughtforce - I am SO glad to see you. I think of you so often! Just this morning I went to your profile, contemplating sending you an email. But I, too, have come to the conclusion that I am taking the fun out of hubbing because I'm getting too attached to my online friends, too eager to support them, too ready to stress when I don't see them, while I do have more important priorities in real life. So, Tina, I understand your dilemma so well. Finding the right balance, managing the right distance, is quite a challenge. But in spite of this mind-talk, am I so glad to 'see' you and to know that you are still up and about up there in Sweden. I've got a Samsung Tablet 2 that enables the enlarging of web pages by simply 'stretching' the screen with your fingers. But, unfortunately, this move does not work in Facebook. But then, HubPages is by far more interesting than FB. Thanks again for popping in, Tina. Take care of yourself and always know you've got a friend in me :)

@ sallieannluvslife - HubPages is indeed a wonderful community. It takes time to find a healthy balance - you might find thoughtforce's comment and my reply to her interesting. I look forward to follow you as well :)


Vinaya Ghimire profile image

Vinaya Ghimire 3 years ago from Nepal

Martie, time management is a hard thing. I'm also not reading many hubbers who had been my support system since I joined HP. However, I always reciprocate when ever someone comments on my hub. I not only thank then in my comment response but also read and comment on their hubs. I'm little selective about following back a hubber. I don't follow back until I read their work.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Vinaya, you and I are definitely on the same page about this. I would love to read more hubs, and to offer continuous support to all the hubbers I know, but Time just don't allow me to do this. Another problem I often face: In my efforts to reciprocate I cannot always find a hub worthy to read. Some writers in HubPages - fortunately not many - should really not publish the nonsense they write. I always find your work interesting, informative and well-presented. Thank you, Vinaya.


CloudExplorer profile image

CloudExplorer 3 years ago from New York City

Martie your tips here are totally priceless and very valuable and extremely well balanced. All hubbers and even non hubbers should read this hub, and I will do my very best to help spread the word for you here about it, because many folks have no clue about time management online in general, let alone on hubpages.

I truly enjoyed reading this hub of yours, and I'm glad I did because it helped me to rethink my own scheduling, which I actually made an unofficial one a while back that I didn't keep consistency with, but I will get back into it all again soon.

I also enjoy the challenge of multi-tasking which is one of my motivations to produce large volumes of content, and design concept being placed into action, so its tough when that aspect roles around in my mind, it conflicts directly with my scheduling things.

Your balanced focus here though also helped me too see that other folks do indeed have a much wiser strategy, and smarter method or angle of approach to time management online.

Even all the networking factors with others, you've still managed to figure out a balance of effeciency and effective communications, which is admirable to say the least, and its clear as day as you expressed here in your hub that you maintain good communications with your fellow hubbers on a regular basis.

This all is highly commendable indeed, and I thank you for writing this useful hub article, it will indeed help our fellow hubbers for years to come, and also including that of myself. Nice job!

Thumbs up and getting shared for sure!


poetvix profile image

poetvix 3 years ago from Gone from Texas but still in the south. Surrounded by God's country.

There's nothing I can add that has not already been said, but I have to tell you, I'm going to take your advice. A schedule is going to be required. I don't get to read near as many hubs as I would like, especially lately. I'm glad I hit this one. You are a model hubber and we, myself included, could all learn a lot from you.


truthfornow profile image

truthfornow 3 years ago from New Orleans, LA

I have nothing to say other than to compliment you on taking the time to write this very thoughtful and well thought-out guide on how to be a better hubber. I want to save it to read over and over to remind me on what to do to get better.


Kasman profile image

Kasman 3 years ago from Bartlett, Tennessee

Hello Martie, nice to make your acquaintance. This definitely spoke to me as I'm a newer hubber and I've made a few friends in the 3 months I stumbled onto the site, lol. It was my first shot at writing articles online but I wanted to take it.

I'm so very glad you wrote this as I've been trying to find ways to be on here more but my "very busy" schedule does tend to hold me up.

Could I find more time to do it? Sure! I just would have to lose many many hours of much needed sleep......in between being married, singing, career, small business, and many other things. I really do try to get to know people on here as my friend billybuc will attest to. It's just finding that balance ya know. Heck, I know people on here with similar schedules who somehow work it out. I'm still learning I guess. Trying to find my lane amongst the traffic. Funny thing is, I've been thinking about this for the past few days......your hub was perfect timing!

Well written hub, I loved it, and I'm voting it up!


Girishsks profile image

Girishsks 3 years ago

I could not read it completely, but i m bookmarking this and will go through this soon.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

@ CloudExplorer – thank you so much for your support. Maintaining good communications with my fellow hubbers is in fact my first priority – publishing hubs on a regular basis comes after this. (First give (hublove), then receive.) But I must add that I am always far behind, and all my reasons are well-grounded in Living & Loving. Good to know you are so positive about this schedule of mine :) Thanks again, and also for sharing.

@ poetvix – “Plan your work then work your plan” is a rule in my life. This is the only way I can get things done. Thank you for your beautiful comment :)

@ truthfornow – give it a try. You can always adjust it until it suits you perfectly.

@ Kasman – Nice to meet you! I am very busy myself, having only a 4/24 hours for HubPages, unless I forsake my other responsibilities. But if we have a plan, we can work it fast and effectively. I can do in 4 hours what many others only manage in 24 hours. But not always as easy as it sounds. All distractions are not bad, you know... Take care, Kasman.

@ Girishsks – I hope to see you back soon. Your opinion might change my mind :)


bravewarrior profile image

bravewarrior 3 years ago from Central Florida

Martie, I agree with you on just about everything you've said in this hub. I try to respond to comments to my hubs (provided I've been notified!). I also try to read new hubs by people I follow and comment. However, there have been times that I've chosen not to comment because I didn't have something positive to say. I also will not read a hub of someone I follow if it's not a topic that interests me or is too political.

I seem to spend all of the time I'm not writing for a living catching up on HubMail and frankly, sometimes it's just too cumbersome. I've not attended to my gardens since last Spring, I have neglected cleaning my house until it just can't be ignored anymore and so on and so on. I need to get some of my life back!

I, too don't understand those who follow without commenting on a hub. How the hell do they know they want to follow you unless they've read what you have to contribute???? We don't earn our pennies by hitting the follow button!

K. I'm starting to stress myself out, so I'll sign off. Bottom line is, excellent hub my South African friend!


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

bravewarrior – I promised myself to never leave a comment on a hub if it does not flow spontaneously out of my brain. I am not interested in everything my fellow-hubbers write about. Sometimes, when ‘repaying’ a comment, I have to scan a hubber’s entire stock of hubs in search for one I might find interesting.

Currently I am far behind my schedule. After tomorrow’s ‘Perspective’ I will spend the rest of the week reading and commenting, actually until I am up to date again, before I publish my next hub. Hubbing is actually hard work when we ‘give and take’ . In the beginning I read the hubs of ‘takers’ who never condescend to read my hubs, and I even left comments, just because I found their hubs interesting. But I’ve quit doing that months ago - I have more than enough interesting hubs to read published by hubbers who are not only ‘takers’.

Take care, Shauna! I am still struggling with tomorrow’s topic. Lol! I look forward to read yours :)


midget38 profile image

midget38 3 years ago from Singapore

Martie, these are some of my feelings too. I think it is important to reply to each and every comment. The schedule is hard to upkeep, so I use timers to try to keep as closely to time as possible. It's not always easy, but at least keeps me in check! Thanks for sharing!


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

midget - I am so glad to know that I am not the only one trying to stick to a schedule. Because I am a bookkeeper/finance officer from 8-1, I just don't get the time to be more active in our fabulous FB-groups. I am actually fearing the day I might get banned because I am more absent than present in there. Thanks a lot for sharing this hub :) What happened to the word 'pimping'? Did I miss a 'gentleman's agreement'?


Nellieanna profile image

Nellieanna 3 years ago from TEXAS

This is such a valuable guideline for good hub etiquette, my dear DB. I found the link to it elsewhere and was so happy to follow up to it! Thank you~!

One of my own earliest hubs dealt with many of your points here, though it was from a relative newbie's perspective. I simply applied the guidelines of my own life experience to the new one, in which I always somewhat feel a "host-ship" if I'm a part of a group, - like carrying my own weight and giving back as I receive from it. I responded enthusiastically to the warmth and generous reception I was being given!

Of course, one's personal time schedule and array of time demands varies from others'. One's relationships with some fellow Hubbers develop to greater and lesser depths, which, if honest, is naturally and mutually reflected in those exchanges. There is an overall give and take among people with a general mutual interest as we all are on HP in writing, in which mutual applicable support, learning and encouragement both personally and as writers does not primarily flow from the organization but arises and grows from the interaction among ourselves. As in all relationships, we each must apply our best efforts to its effectivity with consideration for those of others.

This interaction is not by rigid rules, but benefits from its very spontaneity and individuality, so that each of our exchanges among ourselves feels genuine, applicable and real. You are the leader in that, dear Martie! It's not a second-thought matter you give, but a genuine desire to share, which we all appreciate and admire!


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Nellieanna, I agree wholeheartedly with you entire comment. Although this schedule may seem to be rigid, every step of it is an act of love. I have a strong sense of justice - of being just and fair to everybody, whether they are my close friends or strangers. I am an altruist by heart, although altruism is at the end of the day egoism in a white dress. Because by being altruistic I simply please my own ego.... Oh, how will we ever not be ego's - either humble or pride, small or large... We are who we are.

But I must say - again - that I am always behind my schedule, always trying to 'catch up'. Not enough hours in a day, or rather too many balls in the air, was and is and will surely forever be the reason for all my negligence and failures.

Thank you, Nellieanna, for sharing your thoughts, and I would like to quote you: "As in all relationships, we each must apply our best efforts to its effectivity with consideration for those of others."


jainismus profile image

jainismus 3 years ago from Pune, India

Great Hub, very useful for every hubber.....


AudreyHowitt profile image

AudreyHowitt 3 years ago from California

Such a very useful hub! I also find fan mail to be a bit odd--especially when I was brand new at this!


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Thank you, jainismus and Audrey, for reading and commenting. Maybe there is a better schedule practiced by others. I will, of course, try anything that takes up less time but not less hub-love.... :) I look forward to visit you in a day or three... :)


Paul Kuehn profile image

Paul Kuehn 3 years ago from Udorn City, Thailand

Martiecoetser,

Your working schedule for hubbers is excellent. If a person wants to be efficient, he has to have the correct priorities and not waste time on unnecessary things. Like you, I reply to all of my comments and try to stay active sharing hubs with the hubbers who share my hub. When I am writing a hub, especially one where I have to do research, I fall behind in keeping up with my followers. Examining new ways to market hubs is also time consuming for me. Time management is definitely a must for the efficient and productive hubber. Voted up and sharing.


Careermommy profile image

Careermommy 3 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

Hi , I'm glad this hub was shared becaue it was very useful. I've been here for about 4 or 5 months now but still consider myself a newbie, so these tips are just what I need to make sure I'm being respectful of other hubbers, and headed in the right direction. Thank you.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

@ Paul

@ Careermommy

Being a successful hubber is hard work. Really. It is a give and take business and takers just don't make it. I have learned in my life that one has to give 100% to ensure a 30% return. Maybe some interest later if a disaster doesn't destroy all that I've built...

And then there is the Pareto's Principle, the 80-20 Rule ~ http://management.about.com/cs/generalmanagement/a...

Thank you for sharing your thoughts :)


agapsikap profile image

agapsikap 3 years ago from Philippines

Martie, your hub contain a generous idea and useful information for fellow hubbers and newbies. I had to go back and read word from top to the bottom, but one thing is so sure, it has a direct valid points and conveys great thoughts. Thank you for sharing this one.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

agapsikap - if you manage to create a more feasible working schedule, please don't hesitate to share it with all of us. Have a great day!


rajan jolly profile image

rajan jolly 3 years ago from From Mumbai, presently in Jalandhar,INDIA.

Martie, I pretty much follow this schedule for myself. I do reply to comments as well as read the hubs of those who have taken time to read mine and comment. Indeed with 24 hours to a day and other work to attend to it is a very tight rope walk here. But I love it here.

Voted up, useful and shared as well. Have a nice day.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi rajan, good to see you! And then we don't even get the time to read the hubs of ALL our fellow-hubbers. I look forward to visit you for a change. Thank you so much for your visit and for sharing your thoughts about a working schedule in HubPages :)


midget38 profile image

midget38 3 years ago from Singapore

Sharing this again, Martie!!


jsj67 profile image

jsj67 3 years ago from Fort Wayne, IN

This was extremely helpful for me. New to HubPages and trying to find my way.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Jsj, welcome in hubpages. I wish you all of the best....


MickeySr profile image

MickeySr 3 years ago from Hershey, Pa.

Martie ~ my initial urge is to ask 'why didn't you direct me to this convicting bit of excoriation?' - but as I (wisely I'm sure) resist my initial urge, I then think to myself 'I have no doubt that my sweet Martie instructed me in her own warm manner to get over here without delay'.

. . . at any rate, I know you are so pleased with me - as this effort you are reading just now demonstrates, I've been a very good boy the last few days, haven't I? I am trying, and I am trying because you all deserve so much better from me . . . I wish I had oceans of attention to pour on each of you daily, you've all been so generous toward me.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Oh, Mickey, you are such an adorable hippie! You know we accept and love you just the way you are - lazy reader! But I must say, the attention you are now paying to us is totally delightful and yes, it makes us love you even more. You must realize that your opinions are worthy to know, so you might as well pour it out on us. I am also sure that you will enjoy the interaction just as much as we do. Yes, I am speaking for all of us 'perspectives' and I guess also for the others.

Sorry you had to wait 9 hours for my reply, but I, too, have so many obligations on my plate that I no longer know weather I am Martha or Arthur. Until I 'see' you again, take care!


Kathryn Stratford profile image

Kathryn Stratford 3 years ago from Manchester, Connecticut

I need to set more of a schedule when I am on HubPages, because if I don't, I end up spending a lot of time not doing very much. There are so many interesting hubs to read, and people to get to know!

It's very interesting to see how you handle your schedule. Thanks for sharing this with us!

~ Kathryn


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Kathryn, I am always far behind when it comes to reading and commenting, but I stick to this schedule. In the process I learn so much via hubs published by others. I look forward to read you, hopefully before the end of this weekend.


nighthag profile image

nighthag 3 years ago from Australia

This was a great read for the perfect time, I've been away from hubpages for a time distracted by everything else but my writing, so thank you so much for helping me focus my mind and remember why I hold this website so dear.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi nighthag, I am also distracted by too much in real life. Weeks behind with reading and commenting. But will hopefully catch up during coming holiday. Will see you in your hub asap :)


Michael-Milec profile image

Michael-Milec 2 years ago

Hello MartieCoetser. An excellent hub as if made to order for me, who being on HP some of two years, without a profile and an article published yet. Coming to your page happened instinctively after reading your comment on Nellieanna's article . ( She is one of my invisible mentor as bllibuc is, some others of your followers who are more than kind to me, tolerating my presence regardless.)

Voting up, useful and interesting , on this your hub might sound too egoistic since voided spots of my needs are met while being in process to know more needed mechanism prior reaching confidence to publish. ..

By your permission I would like to follow you, since you are one of the "invisible" mentors as your writing has teaching and leadership distinguishing characteristic .

Thank you so much for your time.


MartieCoetser profile image

MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Michael-Milec, you are welcome to follow me. I hope you will reach confidence to publish soon. Thank you so much for your kind comment :)

    Sign in or sign up and post using a HubPages Network account.

    0 of 8192 characters used
    Post Comment

    No HTML is allowed in comments, but URLs will be hyperlinked. Comments are not for promoting your articles or other sites.


    Click to Rate This Article
    working