Hubpages vs Squidoo

What would this look like if you turned it 180 degrees?
What would this look like if you turned it 180 degrees?

Squidwhat?

If you're a Hubber you may have heard of Squidoo.

What is the fuss all about?

This hub is a close look at Squidoo, how it works and what's in it for you, looking from the viewpoint of a Hub Author.

Squidoo is different. Looks different. Works differently. But that doesn't make it any less of a web 2.0 vehicle.

And while there are a lot of differences there are also a lot of similarities.

We'll look at Squidoo with Hubpages as our reference point. So you can quickly come up to speed by comparing and understanding the differences.

If you're a Hubber and you haven't heard of Squidoo, then prepare to be surprised!

Squidoo vs Hubpages

A brief overview...

At HubPages you are an Author.

At Squidoo you are a Lensmaster.

HubPages doesn't allow adult content (ie: porn).

Squidoo allows adult content. Though it is allocated its own category and only viewable if you've got your account setting set to show X rated lenses. All visitors must sign up to Squidoo before being able to view them.

Squidoo has an official forum: SquidU.com.

HubPages has a forum too. Though once was not as established or with as many active members that certainly has changed in the last 6 months.

Capsules vs Modules

At HubPages they call modules Capsules.

At Squidoo they call capsules Modules.

HubPages is quicker to add 'capsules' then Squidoo is with 'modules'. As well as rearranging them. (At Squidoo you need to open up a different page).

HubPages doesn't allow for extra HTML (currently).

Squidoo allows html. If you're handy with the Hyper Text Mark-up Language then you'll enjoy adding text styles and formatting on the fly. If you're not familiar with HTML you'll be surprised how easy HTML is (www.squidoo.com/basichtml).

It's quicker to fill content into a lens.

Though when I say this it's because I do most of my work offline. I prepare my 'lenses' and 'hubs' in Notepad documents and then copy and paste the content. Though paradoxally that means it is a little slower for me to add things like bold to my HubPages. Because I have to use the bold tool. Whereas with Squidoo I just add the HTML for bold while I'm typing . So perhaps for a newb it's easier therefore quicker, but for someone experienced it will slow you down somewhat.

The same goes for hyperlinks. No raw HTML means you have to stop and create the hyperlink using the tools. Some may see this as an advantage. But for me, not so much.

There's no character limit for a Text Capsule. Squidoo limits the Text/Write Module to 2500 characters. Which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing. It forces the Lensmaster to think. And plan. Though to be honest if it were 3000 characters it would be better.

The same restraints do not apply at HubPages. Though I think it may be to the Hub Authors detriment. It will cause them create larger slabs of text. A text capsule has no limit as to the length (word count or character count) of the text.

The write/text module has 10,000 character limit (it used to be just 2,500).

There is no character limit for Capsules (except for the Summary, which is 500 characters).

Lenses need at least 3 modules to be counted as developed for it to properly publish.

Hubs need only one capsule (though it's not recommended).

HubPages guestbooks have no limit for visitors.

Squidoo guestbooks have 300 character limit.

Default Template Setting

HubPages starts you with a text capsule, photo capsule and comments capsule.

Squidoo gives four options

  • I want to get the word out about CHOSEN TOPIC (easiest option)
  • I'm gonna sell CHOSEN TOPIC stuff and earn $$, for me or for charity (money maker!)
  • I want to make a list of my favorite things about CHOSEN TOPIC (most popular)
  • I just want to do my own thing.

I usually go with "I just want to do my own thing". As I'd just have to rearrange what the other templates give me anyway. You start with just the Introduction Module. Click on Add Modules to add more.

Adding Extra Capsules/Modules

Assuming you are in edit mode...

With HubPages there is a palette on right called "Add More Stuff". Just click on the ones you want and it will add them in the order in which you click.

Two down from that is a palette called "Capsule Ordering". You can "Drag and Drop" to organize the order. Double Click to make say the Photo Capsule half size and you can drop it onto a Text Capsule which will give you an image beside text or the wrap around effect. The same for Amazon and a few other Capsules. Be sure to click on Reorder Now to execute the changes.

You can also use the green arrows on the actual capsules to rearrange the order.

With Squidoo you need to (assuming you are in edit mode) click on the Add Modules button. You're taken to a page for which you are absolutely spoilt for choice. And for the uninitiated this can be daunting.

To explain what each of the modules do (there are many more options than what's here at HubPages) would be far too detailed to mention here. Perhaps this is a lesson you can do later. Go to Squidoo Modules (www.squidoo.com/module) for a run down and demonstration on what each can do.

Probably the most fun module that Squidoo has that HubPages doesn't have a corresponding Capsule, is the Poll Module. But otherwise HubPages seemingly limited selection has all I need to adequately communicate my thoughts, ideas and articles.

Tags

There is a limit of 40 tags on Squidoo.

(Currently) there is no such limit at HubPages.

If you know how to use tags at HubPages then the same applies to Squidoo.

URL's

You'd pick your URL much the same way as you do at HubPages, though while HubPages doesn't use the www, Squidoo does.

Also Squidoo doesn't have a directory name between the domain and your chosen article name.

This is a generic idea of what each looks like:

http://hubpages.com/hub/article

http://www.squidoo.com/article

User/Visitor Rating

At HubPages people can give you a "thumbs up" or a "thumbs down".

At Squidoo visitors (registered visitors) can give you a score out of five stars. Whether one star out of five means it's an average lens or if 3 out of 5 means it's average is not known. As a one star rating can have a positive effect on Lensrank. If you feel a lens is, in your opinion, sub-standard it's best to not rate at all. Lest you give it a boost.

Statistics and Scoring

HubPages has HubScore. A point system out of 100. 1 being the lowest and 100 being the highest.

Squidoo has Lensrank. A ranking system out of... however many lenses are in the system. 1 being the highest. And the lowest being somewhere near 250,000 (or however many lenses there currently are in the database). Being in the Top 100 is highly valued. In the top 1000 means you're doing something right. In the top 10,000 is nothing to be sneezed at. Making it into the top 100,000 is easy if you make half an effort to publish a lens with four modules.

HubScore is updated every 10 minutes.

Lensrank updates only once a day.

Squidoo shows the traffic for the last 7 days on the "Dashboard". It used to get hard after a couple of weeks to know exactly how much you're pulling in per day for visitor numbers. Thankfully a few months ago Squidoo HQ unveiled "Stats 2.0". Now the stastistics are far more detailed and you can see how much traffic you got today, yesterday, for the week just gone and for the whole month. As well as the life of the lens.

HubPages used to tell you stats for the last 4 hrs, 24 hrs, 7 days, 30 days and the life of the Hub in "My Account". Now it shows it for 1 day (the current day), 7 days, 30 days and the life of the Hub. But you can connect your Google Analytics account to your HubPages account. The stats available through that is world class.

Referrals

HubPages has a referral system. If someone signs up for a HubPages account via your referral link, you get 10% of their pageviews for the life of their hubs.

For referring a person to Squidoo you get a one off $5 payment. Which is credited to your account once that person has made $15 themselves (As a means of avoiding fraud).

There's an extra incentive for people to sign up via your Squidoo link is that the referred person also gets a $5 bonus.

Which is the better system? It depends entirely on the person signing up whether or not they have the talent and ability to earn $15 at Squidoo (which isn't that hard) or get plenty of traffic so your 10% Ad pageviews gets enough click-thrus.

Squidoo will probably deliver your bonus quicker. Whereas HubPages can be more beneficial in the long run.

However HubPages referral system also rewards you for the traffic you send to other peoples hubs. If you refer other peoples Hubs you get a cut of the pageviews. 9% or 12% depending on whether there's already a signup referrer involved (who is getting a 10% cut of the pageviews). This cut comes again from HubPages Inc's share of the pageviews. So it's a win/win situation when you promote or link to a fellow Hub Authors page. Their article gets exposure and you get a reward for sending them traffic. (Read more)

Squidoo has no such system.

Money

HubPages uses your Adsense account. They manage your Adsense account. Which might be disconcerting to some. But we know they're legit. What it does mean is the reporting of the $ is instant (provided of course you have traffic).

Squidoo has Adsense but it is their account. And they share the revenue according to Payrank (www.squidoo.com/payrank).

So it takes 2 calendar months for the Squidoo payments to kick in to find out how much you've earned from Adsense revenue. Which, in my opinion, is lower then what you'd get from a system like HubPages for a similarly performing Hub (in terms of promotion, SEO and traffic).

The comparison of Amazon is even. While you share 50% of a commission with Squidoo you may receive the same in revenue because Squidoo earns a higher percentage due to being a premium Associate. With Squidoo you'll be getting 50% of EVERY sale, rather then the chance of making a sale which you may never see (if HubPages Inc or a referrer get the pageview and therefore the sale). It's a gamble, but not an unreasonable one.

With Squidoo you don't have to worry about having your own Adsense Publisher account, Ebay account and Amazon Associates account.

All funds from Squidoo gets paid into your Paypal account. So you'll at least need one of those. But until you do the money will accrue (rollover) until you set your Paypal details.

Duplicate Content

Avoid publishing same (identical) material in both your Squidoo and HubPages accounts.

Using HubPages AND Squidoo

Should I have accounts at both Squidoo and HubPages?

By all means go for it.

Should I run my articles and pages consecutively on both sites? Can I make a Hubpage and a Lens on the same topic?

You know what they say about not putting all your eggs in one basket? Avoid putting the same egg in two baskets.

Don't republish all your HubPages content over at Squidoo. And vice versa.

However if you write two articles, though different, on the same subject then by all means do.

Advantages of HubPages

When you get the page impression the Adsense click or Ebay or Amazon purchase it is all yours.

Immediate income reporting. Though you have to wait for the likes of Google and others to pay out. But you do see an almost up to the minute

Live report of page impressions, click thrus and earnings.

The referral system continues for the life of the new member. Though a one off $5 payment may come quicker and be more then what you'd get for the months and months of it would take for 10% of pageviews to equate to $5 worth of click thrus. Long term though HubPages keeps rewarding. However be mindful that not all referred sign ups are going to convert into prolific publishers. Indeed they may be talented writers but might be hopeless at SEO and web promotion.

There is an incentive and reward to promote other peoples pages.

While HubPages has less hubs on average each of those hubs are getting 8x the traffic that the average lens is getting. Source.

Advantages Of Squidoo

Bigger community.

Far more lenses on lensmaking than hubs on hubmaking

More active forum (this has since changed, they're about even now).

Using your Paypal account to receive payments can be less hassle then arranging for an Adsense Publisher account, Ebay affiliate account and Amazon Associate account.

Bottom Line

Do both. Even if you do one more than the other.

Sign up to Squidoo.

And if you're not already signed up to HubPages, you can do so through this link.

Or you can find out more about HubPages here.

More Squidoo reading....

  • Why Squidoo? (www.squidoo.com/why)
  • I'm a Lensmaster! What now? (www.squidoo.com/what)

* Most squidoo.com links in this article aren't hyperlinks because it would have caused this hub to be automatically flagged for being over-promotional. So copy and paste them to see the information, it's worth it.

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jstankevicz profile image

jstankevicz 9 years ago from Cave Creek

Great overview of Squidoo and contrast with HubPages. Loved the intersection sign graphic - very creative!


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retireyoung 9 years ago from Bali

Yes, great infomative article.


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Rudra 8 years ago

brilliant information. great comparision. well done..

just one question, the clicks on ads from google, they belong to you 100%. am i right.


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darkside 8 years ago from Australia Author

No. The Adsense revenue is pooled. They substract operating costs from that pool (that's how Squidoo makes a buck, whereas HubPages tries to derive its revenue from the % pageviews it doesn't give away). Then the Adsense is redistributed to the Lensmasters according to PayRank.


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maverickmonk 8 years ago from india

tats nice information.. thanks to u...

my question: how does hubpages derive its revenue from the % pageviews?


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chip22 8 years ago

Very informative. I'm just getting my feet wet here at Hubpages after being at Squidoo for a while. Comparing and contrasting the 2 sites was very helpful, thanks!


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darkside 8 years ago from Australia Author

Maverickmonk, revenue is generated from Adsense clicks and Amazon and Ebay sales.


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Whitney05 8 years ago from Georgia

Great comparison. I like both sites. I think that although they tend to have great difference in terms of tools and such, you can use both sites to your advantage, if you know how to use the tools provided. Use the tools to your advantage and try not to complain about what's not there.


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Panic 39 8 years ago

I checked out both before I started and Hub pages just seemed easier. That doesn't meen I won't use Squido in the future and am more likely to do so thanks to this hub...


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TomRober 8 years ago from Glendale, AZ

I went looking for something just like this. Found it! Good info. Have a little digesting to do. Thanks much!


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dinamars 8 years ago from France

thanks for this hub, i've recently joined Squidoo but still confused in using it, too many features than hubpages...


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Cameron Corniuk 8 years ago from Painesville, OH

Being new to all this, I found this to be a great and informative hub. I've been hearing about Squidoo, and have even visited there once or twice, but wasn't sure what the benefits were until I read this. Thanks again.


Defmall 8 years ago

You left out a very Large difference between Squidoo and HubPages:

Squidoo lets you share any links you want to on your lens. HubPages is very critical of what links you share. In fact, if you have 3 links to share that are 100% relevant to your topic, but they are from the same domain, HubPages won't allow it.

Let me share a better example. Let's say you have 5 Squidoo lenses. Let's say you build a Hub and want to share your Squidoo lenses on your hub. You can only share 2 Squidoo lenses. Even if all 5 lens are completely different, just the fact they they all fall under the 'Squidoo' domain means you cannot share more than 2 on your Hub.

Squidoo does not have a limit to how many Hubs (or links, for that matter) that you share.

If you are looking to cross link between your Squidoo and HubPages, you need to be aware of this rule.


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darkside 8 years ago from Australia Author

Defmall, you are indeed correct. Though when I wrote this hub that wasn't a limitation. I'll have to do an update. Because there's been a few things changed at Squidoo as well that are worth mentioning.


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johnr54 8 years ago from Texas

I would also note that Hubpages tends to be a lot more transparent about earnings, etc. You can install your own Google Analytics for tracking referall traffic and keywords and you can create Adsense channels to track the performance of hubs. And as pointed out above, since you can have a virtually unlimited number of links to your other web sites, Squidoo seems to have a larger number of spammy lenses.


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tonyab 8 years ago from Oregon, U.S.

This is really a great Hub and quite helpful for people who are active in both resources.

Thanks so much!


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Rob Jundt 8 years ago from Midwest USA

Very helpful. I'm not sure time allows me to do both at this time. Really well explained. Thanks.


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solarshingles 8 years ago from london

Thank you again...I am slowly studying your wonderful hubs.


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Loopster 8 years ago from Houston

Very nice to have all information in one concise, great article! Thank you.


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R-Homes,LLC 8 years ago from Florida

Great article. You talked me into joining squidoo as well. Thanks!


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Anamika S 8 years ago from Mumbai - Maharashtra, India

Good Information. I just signed up!


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kellyfilmgirl 8 years ago

This is a fantastic comparison!! The HTML thing is something that keeps me from making more hubs and more lenses, but I still enjoy doing both and find both to be rewarding.


Kristie 8 years ago

I googled this very topic and got yours! Fantastic, thanks so much. I love Squidoo, but had heard so much about this site, I am setting up shop right now. Do you know if you can build an opt-in box of some kind here. It is possible at Squidoo, but you have to be a techie to have a separate window open up and I don't know how to do that? Is is possible to do it here to build a list from the traffic? Thanks!


Kristie 8 years ago

I googled this very topic and got yours! Fantastic, thanks so much. I love Squidoo, but had heard so much about this site, I am setting up shop right now. Do you know if you can build an opt-in box of some kind here. It is possible at Squidoo, but you have to be a techie to have a separate window open up and I don't know how to do that? Is is possible to do it here to build a list from the traffic? Thanks!


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darkside 8 years ago from Australia Author

Hi Kristie!

You won't be able to use HTML code, but if you check out www.hubpages.com/_learn/hub/capsules you'll get a closer look at how to build hubs.


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02SmithA 8 years ago from Ohio

Darkside, this was well written. I think I'll stick to hubpages based on this review. I have found it to be a very good community!


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ContentLaundromat 8 years ago from California, U.S.A.

personally, i found hubpages easier to use. but i love squidoo's polaroid feature. thanks for this enjoyable hub!


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Michisor 8 years ago

Very Informative, I think pluses and minuses basicaly make them equal, it is just the comuniti of lenses is biger at this point.

I suggest to use both and in time will see what happened.

regards

Michisor


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lakeerieartists 7 years ago from Cleveland, OH

Very informative. I have been thinking of spending more time on hubpages.


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Pam Roberson 7 years ago from Virginia

This is an amazing hub so full of valuable information, I'm going to have to bookmark it to read again. My brain can't absorb all this at once. ;) Thank you for all the trouble you went through to lay this out so nicely.


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whoelsecouldib 7 years ago from Alabama

GREAT HUB! I use both Squidoo and HubPages too. As you said, they are very similar. I really like both just about the same. One of the benefits to hubpages, is that you can set up a hub in a fairly short amount of time as you mentioned, but still make it very pleasing to the eyes. It is very user friendly here. It takes a lot longer for me to create a lens and I tend to obsess more with Squidoo. Might be the OCD though :o)

Also at Squidoo, the lens and the ads are kept separate for the most part. The ads appear on the right and your lens is not broken up by them, which I think disturbs the flow when an ad cuts in to your paragraph and causes an indentation or appears between your paragraphs.

I have been using Squidoo longer than hubpages, but the traffic that I receive here is amazing, as compared to Squidoo. I could go all week and sometimes I may just get 2 visitors to a lens, though I am doing all the social BM and hyperlink activities to generate traffic.

I totally agree with you about using them both, because they are both great for many reasons. I do love them both. Ahhh, but let us not forget Zimbio. They are pretty awesome too :o)

Sorry to type and type, but I really enjoyed your article and I have been comparing the 2 in my head just recently and then I came across your hub. I just could not resist putting my 2 cent in :o)

Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it!


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needful things 7 years ago from Poland

Both are great platforms... you can never go wrong with them. Thumbs up!


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michelle willow 7 years ago from Croatia / Europe

You should redo this hub after Squidoo changed workshop. Many things don't work that way any more. ;)

Nice to see you doing the same thing here as well Glen!


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RVilleneuve 7 years ago from Michigan

Thank you, great information. I might try squidoo in the future.


speedsking 7 years ago from Seattle

Great hub!


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The Bard 7 years ago from London, England & San Pablo City, Philippines

Great Hub. I deleted two Squidoo lenses and rebuilt them here. They were wallowing without any traffic, so I thought "what the heck!". I'm really pleased with the way they turned out and I think I shall do the same with some others. I think there is some content which is more suited to one than the other, but I've yet to figure out which.


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WindyWinters 7 years ago from Vancouver Island, BC

Thanks for sharing your info. Great Hub! :)


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WaynePoole 7 years ago from America

Thank you for writing this hub, it is very informative.


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BirteEdwards 7 years ago

Nice to know the differences and the similarities. As you stated, squidoo can be overwhelming to a newbie, while hubs are somewhat easier, even without the html.

Now that I know the hub system it really does not take that long to create a page. If everything is ready, text, pic's, video, links to other hubs, it can be done in 15-20 min. Not too bad. Found it takes a lot longer on squiddo.

The financial aspect is also important, but as you say: do both.


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Jen's Solitude 7 years ago from Delaware

Even though I just signed up at both Squidoo and Stumbleupon, I was wondering what the difference is between them and Hubpages. Now I understand Squidoo better thanks to you and this hub.

~Jen


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LondonGirl 7 years ago from London

fantastic and easy to follow hub, thank you.

You might need to update the templates section, though, now hubs can set different ones.


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HealthCare Basics 7 years ago from San Diego, California

Great article on the differences between the two sites. I looked at Squidoo the other day but I need to learn more of Hubpages before making an attempt. Thanks


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RooBee 7 years ago from Here

Awesome! I had my finger in the air, mouth open, ready with a bunch of questions about Squidoo (never used it) - and one by one you answered them all with your killer hub!

Finger is down, mouth closed. Thanks!!


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darkside 7 years ago from Australia Author

Both have developed their sites more since I wrote this. Though it's still pretty much neck and neck as far as tools and ease of use goes.


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Coach Tim 7 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

I actually have accounts on both Squidoo and Hubpages and I can say they have similarities and differences but they can serve our purposes :)

Thumbs up for a very informative hub!


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Lissie 7 years ago from New Zealand

Glen can you have multiple author accounts/penname at squidoo?


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darkside 7 years ago from Australia Author

@Lissie, yes, you can have multiple accounts. Though just like HubPages they don't take kindly to the use of those secondary accounts in the forum. But I know I don't have to tell you that :)


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viryabo 7 years ago

Well laid out and very explanatory. I have both accounts and im like a yoyo, hopping from HP to Squidoo. Ive abandoned for a few weeks now cos im not impressed with traffic. Your write up is sending me right back there now. I'll work on both judiciously' Thanks


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kea 7 years ago

Great information. I just recently checked out squidoo. Just curious. Why do you say to avoid duplicating content on hubpages and squidoo? It seems to me they are both just vehicles to get your content out there...

Also, I read both your articles: hubpages vs. squidoo (this one) and squidoo vs. hubpages (on squidoo): http://hubpages.com/community/squidoo_vs_hubpages

Clever way of reversing the titles and changing the perspectives!


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darkside 7 years ago from Australia Author

@kea, if you want your message to get out clearly and without clutter and also do well in the search engine rankings, then duplicate material is to be avoided. A lot of people often link from one duplicate article to another, which doesn't help the reader. They've just read it, so why be invited to read it again? But you certainly can revisit the same topic as I'm sure there are many different aspects that can be looked at. And if you link from one to another your visitor will find themselves striking it rich in a vein of gold.


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kea 7 years ago

Thanks for the info, darkside. That makes sense to me! I'm still learning and have a lot left to learn!


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Gypsy Willow 7 years ago from Lake Tahoe Nevada USA , Wales UK and Taupo New Zealand

Excllent hub thanks for sharing so generously, Glen. I signed up. shouldn't you get a few bucks from that?


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bcarter 7 years ago from Green Bay, WI

It's funny that many here have stated that Squidoo seems more complicated than Hubpages, but I seem to think the other way around. I think it's because I started at Squidoo and avoided Hubbing for a long time.

Thanks for the insights Glen.


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viryabo 7 years ago

Great hub and explicit comparison. I joined Squidoo before i came to HP.

I kind of really like HP. A lot.


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valleygal7347 7 years ago

What a fabulous article! The comparison was very well done. I understood everything but when I went to sign up with ebay affiliates, I couldn't find the correct link. Was I supose to use the advertisor link?


iPodTouchTapp 7 years ago

Is there a way to join Squidoo without paypal?


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charlie57 7 years ago from Mount Dora, Florida

I just started with HP and recently, Squidoo. The comparison you crafted really provided insight into both, many thanks!


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lyla 7 years ago from India

Thanks for putting all this so very neatly.I am able to understand Squidoo now.Yes,I'll give it a try!:)


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Write at Home 7 years ago

Great comparison. I've just joined both and your comparison has really helped me sort out the differences between both. Thanks!


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JulietduPreez 7 years ago

Good overview and comparison. Appreciate the work you've put into this!

I am new to both. I have one lens, but got no traffic. When I had one hub, I got traffic! Of course it's too early to tell, but somehow I do prefer HP. Perhaps the feel of it...


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BritFun 6 years ago from Oxford

I think Squidoo have dropped their Adult category since you wrote this hub - so that's another similarity to Hubpages.


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ht33rad 6 years ago from Southern Hemisphere, a little to the left.

greeat hub, i was expecting the verdict to come out strongly in favour of hubs, not so


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darkside 6 years ago from Australia Author

ht33rad, I wrote this 2+ years ago. A lot has changed. I should probably go over it and tweak it to reflect the changes, development and progression that I've seen even in the last year alone.


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Azhar Kamar 6 years ago from Singapore

Nice hub. I started off with Squidoo just 2 weeks ago but moved to HubPages. For me, the latter is more user-friendly. The important thing to note is don't publish the same content in both of your accounts. HubPages detected one accidental duplicate content in my Hub in a matter of 2 - 3 days. :-]


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thaninja 6 years ago from America

Squidoo really sucks now...They changed a lot of their site linking and navigation....Squidoo is kind of broken for me now.


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disneyvixen 6 years ago from Pennsylvania, USA

Very, very good hub. I should point out, however, that the section on how to build a lens is outdated- now you can rearrange and add modules all in the sidebar, just as you do here.

The biggest comparison for me is whether you build a lens or hub to make money, or if it's more of a social thing. I think Squidoo really has it socially, but Hubs are much more favored by Google. Since HubPages is so strict in your outlinking (no more than one link per domain), it's not as useful as a link farm, and therefore is seen as more legitimate by the big G. For example? I built a hub and a lens on the same topic- my hub was indexed and ranking within a day. My lens, almost a month later, is still not indexed.

On the other hand, any keyword that gets good searches, but doesn't have good bid pricing on AdWords, I build a lens on, because Squidoo will rank me well if I get enough traffic, and will then pay me based on my lensrank. Good ad prices goes to HubPages, because then I get a percentage of clicks. In theory.


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darkside 6 years ago from Australia Author

I do need to update this hub. Though while lens modules can be rearranged in the sidebar, to add any that's not a favorite requires a few clicks.

Also, two links per domain are allowed here at HubPages. Squidoo now has a limit of 9.


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jenniferhughs 6 years ago

Excellent content and terrific information. I found this to be both informative and instructive. I llok forward to reading more information on future Hubs.


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Sunga 6 years ago from Lilongwe, Malawi

Thanks for this. As a writer though, I find that hubpages is more for me. Squidoo is just as great. These two currently seem to have almost the same ranking at alexa.com so decision was easy to make for me.

Squidoo also takes a lot of time to load depending on your internet connection. I find hubpages easier for my eyes.

Another things is, at hubpages, once your hub is up, you only need to work on the tags but at squidoo, it's more work to update your lens. However, your squidoo lens works well when you link it to your ezinearticles that way it keeps on getting traffic for a long time.

For now, I want see the cash coming in through hubs and then I will move on to some serious "squidooliciousing". Again, great hub.


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BristolBoy 6 years ago from Bristol

Hi Darkside - just signed up for Squidoo. Will hopefully be able to get some decent traffic/money from it.


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Jayne Lancer 6 years ago from West London, UK

Great information. Thank you.


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DanPowers 6 years ago from Tokyo

Useful information here. I don't like the look of the Squidoo pages, they look really chaotic. The revenue sharing model looks nice though, and it's good to not need your own eBay account.


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Vimlaksh G 6 years ago

I'll put it this way. Both HP and Squidoo are great blogging platforms. But HP is more suitable for those wanting to publish a quickie without bothering too much about the page elements and layout, which is crucial for success at Squidoo. But for those writing and thinking about the layout and the different widgets is equally exciting Squidoo is surely the way to go. For me, I love both.


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darkside 6 years ago from Australia Author

Neither of them are blogging platforms. Other than that I agree with everything you say Vimlaksh.


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divacratus 6 years ago from India

Hey, that was a very unbiased comparison of Squidoo and Hubpages. Usually I see hubs in here thrashing Squidoo to the core. I use Squidoo too and I am very happy working on both sites at the same time.

Hubpages does have a tag limit. It gave me a warning for one of my hubs - 'Too many tags' recently. I didn't bother to check how much tags I added into that hub. I just removed few tags and published it again. Plus, Squidoo does not allow adult content anymore.


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secretmemoir 6 years ago from Australia

Very comprehensive hub and worthwhile comments added from visitors. I haven't used Squidoo yet, but have been finding hubpages easy to use for someone like me that doesn't have a clue about writing code. You said about 100% earnings on clicks - I thought it was 60:40?


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darkside 6 years ago from Australia Author

@secretmemoir, the ad impressions are split 60/40. If the click is actioned on your ad share you get 100% of the earnings.


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jasoncox83 6 years ago from Ohio

I will keep this short by stating, BRAVO!


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jasoncox83 6 years ago from Ohio

I complement you, yet you disprove my comment...Not a good way to build a readership.


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darkside 6 years ago from Australia Author

Jason, you posted the same exact message twice. I approved one, and deleted the other.


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SteveoMc 6 years ago from Pacific NorthWest

I always want to learn more, thanks for providing the content. This compare and contrast hub provides a lot of information about HubPages that might be hidden or unknown, even if you are not considering squidoo at this time. Since this is 2 years old, is it current? I suspect that it is. Thanks again!


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thefluffanutta 6 years ago from York, UK

I still love Squidoo, but I'm giving HubPages another try too. Diversification!

:)


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darkside 6 years ago from Australia Author

Good to hear! The game plans are different, but once you get a feel for it it becomes second nature.

I'm not sure about anyone elses experience but building a lens is very slow going for me, adding modules is very slow.


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IndikaT 6 years ago from Kandy,Sri Lanka

Nice article


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Joyful Pamela 6 years ago from Pennsylvania, USA

Hello ~ I've been on Squidoo for about a year and really enjoy it, but as you mentioned, it's good to diversify. I have just started here and am looking forward to writing more. Thanks for the great information. It has answered some of my questions. : )


BenjaminB 6 years ago

I'll definitely have to check it out,thanks for clearly pointing out the differences Darkside,well done!


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spirituality 6 years ago from The Netherlands

Actually, these days, Squidoo hasn't allowed adult content in over a year!


wicklesscandles 6 years ago

Very good analysis. I use both Hubpages and Squidoo, but I like Hubpages better. Squidoo seems to have a little more flexibility.


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cluense 5 years ago from Cartersville, GA

Awesome Hub as always! Great info. I joined squidoo a year ago and have just started to publish there (I graduated). I rated it up a notch as usual!


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bucktrak 5 years ago from Midwest

Thanks for the info - wish I'd read it BEFORE setting up accounts on both. Found HubPages after setting up several articles (lenses, whatever - why can't everyone just use the same lingo, for crying out loud??) on Squidoo. My Squid articles were getting next to no traffic, and once I moved them to HP, the traffic went up substantially. Also, the aesthetics of HP blow away Squid IMHO. I'm moving towards an "all HP, all the time" work mode with only a handful of "throwaway" posts on Squid. OTOH, Squid is backed by Seth Godin - who runs a fantastic blog. I like his blog better than his publishing site.


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Dstiteler 5 years ago from cypress, Tx

very captivating article. well written

How long does it take for squiddo to update page views?


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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA

I started on Squidoo and then learned about HubPages several months later and joined. A lot has changed at Squidoo since you wrote this. My highest ranking lenses are falling under the new (very new) category system, since most of what I wrote didn't fit neatly into any category that made sense. (e.g. Death and Dying is under Healthy Living -. aging, but where do you put your highly ranked lens on the death of a child? It's not exactly parenting.) There is also a lot more competition at Squidoo with over 340,000 lenses and only the first 80,000 in rank get paid any Ad Sense money. I also suspect a lot of how well you do at Squidoo depends upon how much networking you do within Squidoo. A lone wolf probably won't do as well as someone who gets to know others and interacts with them on a regular basis. Also new on SQuidoo is the point system, the quests, and the monsters and trophies you can earn. It's like being back in scouts, except these things really don't help you much with income or rank. No one is required to participate in these new programs. All can be opted out of. I find them rather distracting, and I think HubPages is now more straightforward.

What I do love about SQuidoo is the community and the many different choices one has in creating a lens. At least HubPages has made a poll module and video module available now, but still no quizzes. Not being able to use Zazzle links or AllPosters to visually break up modules with attractive graphics also frustrates me here, since I love using them. I feel at SQuidoo I can create a work of art. I come here when I just want to write content instead of building a masterpiece. I suspect, though, that I will make more money here, and so I have returned with the idea of investing more time here.


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darkside 5 years ago from Australia Author

WannaB, you're spot on with what you've said.

I'm actually glad that someone else has come out and said what you've said without me having to hear my viewpoint on it. :)


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nimbleful 5 years ago

this is a great read :) I was going to say that squidoo now also bans adult content but I see someone already mentioned it in the comments above.


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superbob17 4 years ago

This was very helpful. I am trying to decide right now what to focus on, either Squidoo or Hubpages.


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Tanya YpsiGirl 4 years ago from Ann Arbor

I like Wanna B's comment. Very helpful Hub. Thank you. I think I will put more effort into each and see what works best for me.


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Hally Z. 4 years ago from Madison, Wisconsin

Thank you for this comparison; it was very useful since I have HubPages and Squidoo accounts but have only had time to develop HubPages. You mention that Squidoo posts adult content, which I find intriguing since AdSense won't post its content to adult sites. This also raises the question of how adult lenses even make money. Again, thanks for publishing this comparison of the two sites.


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McGilwriter 4 years ago from Florida

I definitely like Squidoo over hubpages ... seems more organized and well policed for content.

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