Stole what from the hub pages?

The hub pages is a very magical, and wondrous place full of great stories here on the world wide web for all to see and read. Not only does the hub pages not charge anybody a single solitary cent to write stories here, but they'll even pay you, if you choose that option. I for one have a good paying job, and as many others I'm here solely for fun. I decided to write this hub to try to point something out to everyone that they may have forgotten over the short time that the internet has been around. This is the world wide web, and the key word here is that the internet is everywhere in this WORLD, not just on your own personal computer screen. Once you type something and enter it onto a web site it's out there forever, and it's always going to be out there. Just like when a small child pee's in a swimming pool, it's always going to be apart of that water, and you can never ever get it out. The internet was designed for people to share their ideas, and information with others out there in the world.

I've noticed that on some of the forums here at the hub pages, people complaining about article stealing sites, copied hubs, hub page copyright violations, and also copied content. I've seen folks ask the staff to please read this forum and update us on stolen sites, and to please stop our work from being scraped and stolen from hub pages. I've seen people ask for measures to help hubbers detect and report copied Hubs. I've seen multiple questions asked like - how do you find out if someone has stolen your hubs?, one of my hubs was stolen. what should I do?, are articles published on hub pages considered copyrightable?, do original works ever get stolen?, what are your best and easiest suggestions for protecting your hubs from being stolen?, and when our work is stolen, do we need to contact Hub Pages? I've seen hubs about - "My hub was stolen", "Stolen Hubs, Plagiarism and Spammers", and I even saw a poll on a hub asking - Have you had any of your hubs stolen? Out of the nine people who responded, 89% said yes, and 11% said no. If those poll statistics are correct then just about everyone out there should be aware of the fact that if you don't want anything that you post copied by another person, then you shouldn't be posting it at all. If it's that valuable to you then you shouldn't be putting it out there on the internet in the first place. Most people lock their valuable stuff up in safes. You wouldn't leave a wallet full of money laying around, would you? So if it's so valuable to you then why would you post something on the internet, instead of having it published in a book?

Now I like to introduce you to a unique word - "Sharing". That's actually what we all are doing here on the internet. We are either sharing information and ideas with others, or we are receiving information and ideas from others. Getting feedback is why so many people love to see comments on their hubs. You really have to question a hub, where the comment section has been deleted. The hub pages are actually a rather new phenomenon. They won't be around forever. Before you get upset with that last sentence, let me continue. The Roman empire didn't last forever. The hub pages is a company, and 100 years from now, they may no longer be around. There were powerful railroads, and strong automobile companies that were around 100 years ago that are no longer in existence today. The hub pages are no different, and 100 years from now they may gone also, but our entries onto the internet won't. We certainly won't be around 100 years or so from now, but our ideas and the things that we've put on the internet via the hub pages will last for eternity. That really means something to me. A lot of us have children and grandchildren to carry on as our legacy when we are gone, but now thanks to the internet and the hub pages we all have another way of leaving apart of us behind for others in the future.

Now I would like to explain the reason that I wrote this hub in the first place. I have had a hub copied in it's entirety and put on another web site, which was really no big deal to me, and I was told that I should be flattered by other people. All you have to do is contact the site in question, lodge your complaint, and PUFF - it's gone. That's exactly what I did in this one particular case, and if it bothers you then that's all you have to do. Now back to the reason that I wrote this hub. I Goggled some photographs the other night, and when they appeared I was shocked to find a couple photos of mine. It was totally unrelated to my search, and right at the beginning of all of the search photos. I didn't give permission, but then again you don't have to for Google. That photo which I took myself, with my camera, and posted on the hub pages is there for everyone in the world to see and use as they desire. I couldn't do this again if I tried, and the feeling I had when I saw that photo was better than any accolade, which I could have received. I can almost guarantee now that it has been copied a thousand times over. I never had a clue, and I was totally thrilled. Now that was a good day for me. The item that I took the photo of may be gone someday, the camera may get old and thrown away someday, and I will be gone someday, but that photo will last forever. I am totally thrilled and honored, and I want to thank the hub pages for this opportunity! You'll never hear from me that someone stole something of mine from off of the hub pages. Welcome to the Web!

Now if you see this guy around, you better keep an eye on your hamburgers.
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DFiduccia 4 years ago from Las Vegas

Your hub gives me food-for- thought, because it’s true— this is a site for sharing blogs. I definitely see your point of view. However, I would disagree when it comes to published works of music or books, which hold copyrights with the Library of Congress. The authors, in this case, put forth a lot more time and effort, and they have a right to protection by law from the pirating of their work. ...well done and voted up.


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Nights Dream 4 years ago from Allentown, pa

I agree with you about stolen hubs and copyrighted writing. With the internet, it is getting harder and harder to protect any copyrights or enforce the laws; Napster ring a bell?

I checked the site, made a quick post and was done with the subject. If someone wants to question the originality of my content, go for it. Seriously, how many people are not guilty of copyright infringements on one level or another?

I am laid off right now. Currently giving it my best to make a career out of writing in the next year. Not everyone has a good paying job. I can see how people would get upset. Some people are actually trying to use sites like hubpages to make extra money. If that is not the case, then to migrate to a new career.

I do agree with you, but can see the other side as well.

You did a great job on this hub!!! Especially with pointing out what people easily forget. Thank you. Voted up!


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teaches12345 4 years ago

Good post on this topic that has many of us on alert. Love your use of the hamburgler in the hub. Hopefully, we will see this site brought down for the injustice it has caused.


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Goody5 4 years ago from Bohville, USA, Just below the Mason-Dixon line in the land of the pleasant living Author

I want to thank you both DFiduccia & Nights Dream for your very long and well thought out comments! I wasn't sure how this hub would be received, and I want to thank you both again!


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Nights Dream 4 years ago from Allentown, pa

Thank you. I do agree with you about protection and the Library of Congress. Unfortunately, not every country follows the same laws. Several of the sites and people that do pirating are based outside the U.S.

Forgive me for stating this, I am not trying to disagree, only state observation and opinion.


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Goody5 4 years ago from Bohville, USA, Just below the Mason-Dixon line in the land of the pleasant living Author

I agree with everything that all three of you have said so far Nights Dream. thanks again for your observation and opinion.


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hoteltravel 4 years ago from Thailand

Sharing is what internet is all about. Agreed. But, someone else taking credit for your hard work is difficult to digest for many. Especially, if they are making money out of this. The more precautions websites and search engines take in protecting original content, the more fraudsters are finding ways to cheat. As authors, we need to accept this before uploading our original works. We need to take this in our stride and move ahead. Thanks for this reminder.


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Lipnancy 4 years ago from Hamburg, New York

Finally someone who agrees with me to be absolutely flattered when their work is stolen. I do not even consider it stealing, it is just using words which are free. As I have said on other hubs, In my career, I always wrote things for my co-workers to freely copy and now that I am an affiliate marketer, I freely give my writings to my downline. I consider this being a team player not stealing my work. Be happy, be flattered, you cannot stop it so find a way to love it.


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writer20 4 years ago from Southern Nevada

Great wonderful hub and thank you so much for putting so much into it. I was shocked at the percentage of stolen work. I had a new hubber BILLYSC, I found out he had stolen another hubbers work so next he came through I SPAMMED HIS BUTT. I looked into coypwriting here in las Vegas and the minimum amount of time it could take for that to happen is 10 months to..... Voted up,awesome and interesting.I have made a list of any work that I post on H/p. Joyce


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Sherry Hewins 4 years ago from Sierra Foothills, CA

It was pretty obvious from reading some of the stolen hubs at bigezine that the thief didn't even bother to read them before posting them. One I read made several references to "see my profile page if you have questions," and mine had a set of thumbnails that didn't even work on the copy. So there is nothing flattering about it. They don't care what it is, they just want content to fill their page with.


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Minnetonka Twin 4 years ago from Minnesota

Great hub about a different outlook on people taking content or photo's from hubbers. Lately I have been hearing a lot of conversations about copyright infringements. I guess I always knew it was possible that people would use my content and other work. I appreciate your take on this whole situation because I've been a bit confused with it all.


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Deborah Brooks 4 years ago from Brownsville,TX

I know the hysteria over all the stolen hubs has gotten out of control i think...but you are right we are sharing...debbie


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Angela Blair 4 years ago from Central Texas

Your gentle approach to the stolen Hubs thing is admirable and generous and if writing is not one's career (as to making a living) understandable. It's a sideline for me but my brother is a lifetime songwriter/musician and songs he's written are part of his income. Stealing another's writing and music is benefiting from another's labors -- kind of like going in someone's house and stealing something they've built and sell to make a living. This Hub is a great take from a different view and I enjoyed it very much. Best/Sis


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kashmir56 4 years ago from Massachusetts

Yep once you post anything on the web someone out there in Internet-land will copy(steal) it a thousand times over.

Vote up and more !!!


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Drtruthman 4 years ago from Harlingen, Texas

Great Hub. I think we are on the same "link" here, so to speak. Hope you will read my new Hub on this same idea, although I came at it from the psychologist that I am perspective. The name of the Hub is "The Danger of Hysteria" http://hubpages.com/education/dangerofhysteria...

I enjoyed very much and voted UP all across. Lee


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Gypsy Rose Lee 4 years ago from Riga, Latvia

Voted up and interesting. Thank you for sharing as I am one of those who got zapped so to say. It is interesting what you say about sharing and something to consider. I do love the look on my husband's face the day I got notified on my e-mail that he had posted a photo on FB. He hadn't done anything but one of the photos I had posted a long time ago had been re-posted and that was very interesting.


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Goody5 4 years ago from Bohville, USA, Just below the Mason-Dixon line in the land of the pleasant living Author

I'm so pleased that most everybody understood what my message on this hub was all about, which was never meant to condone steeling. I just want to add that all of the outstanding comments here have been overwhelming, with the exception of just one childish & vulgar comment which will never be posted. The mass majority of the people on the hub pages are some of the nicest people in the entire world, but there's always a rotten apple in every bunch. Just like when you change a flat tire, there's always one stubborn lug nut that won't turn. It's no wonder this person's single & baby animals bite her.


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TIMETRAVELER2 4 years ago

Obviously this subject is a bit controversial, and I can see both sides. Technology has gotten away from us and since the net is worldwide, laws are impossible to enforce. I know when I write that my stuff might be stolen, but my own purpose for writing is to have my voice heard. I do like the work attributed to me, however, So, I guess the bottom line is to each his own!!


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suzettenaples 4 years ago from Taos, NM

Very interesting point of view, but I just don't agree with everything you say. Stealing your work is a compliment to you, but it is not to everyone. Many work very hard to write and don't want someone taking credit for their work. Yes, you are immortal by your writing - but if you aren't given credit for that work by someone else stealing it- you don't get immortality the person stealing it gets immortality with your hard worked writings. Is that fair? Do you want someone else collecting your immortality? Not me.


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tillsontitan 4 years ago from New York

Very interesting hub and very interesting point of view. I guess most of us agree the issue is more "give credit where credit is due". The bigezine site, as has been mentioned, totally stole people's work giving credit to someone else even though copyrights were listed at the bottom of the hubs and/or pictures were credited to the writer. Would you claim Shakespeare's works as your own? I think it is more of an acknowledgement issue. I do believe most of us know when it's out there, it's out there. Voted up.


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skye2day 4 years ago from Rocky Mountains

goody You are a talented and clever writer. Keep em coming girl. I love what you share. God Bless your journey in and out of hubpages. Hugs Galore.


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BeyondMax 4 years ago from Sydney, Australia

Clever, thoughtful hub. It's shocking when the stuff gets stolen, especially when it's personal, done with love and passion but on the other hand we posted it ourselves for free, nobody forced us to do so. We knew that it's available for everyone anywhere so there is always a risk. It's up to us what we are after and if we are prepared for this kind of outcome.


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Suzie HQ 4 years ago from Dublin, Ireland

Congrats on a well thought insightful hub which certainly makes you think about the whole issue of "sharing". As a newbie here, and as my hub list grows,I will be watching for stolen works. Having said that, it is the web . . . What's more hurtful is the time and effort people put into articles which is evident in many I have read. Great stuff, voting up and following you with interest!!!


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JamaGenee 4 years ago from Central Oklahoma

Goody, you don't say which hub was stolen, but there's one of yours that didn't go "POOF - gone" at http://www.99floats.com/how-to-make-money-while-us...

Perhaps the rest of you should check the site for copies of your hubs, too.


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Goody5 4 years ago from Bohville, USA, Just below the Mason-Dixon line in the land of the pleasant living Author

Thank you JamaGenee for the link, and you're 100% correct about it being mine. However that's the risk we all take on the internet, and life's too short to worry about this sort of thing. I simply remind myself that I'm here solely for fun, and to me that's what the hub pages is all about. No harm done, except I'm a little disappointed that 99floats' didn't utilize one of my photographs. Thanks again for the heads up, and just imagine how many other hubs from other hubbers have already been copied around the world that we don't know about! it would boggle the human mind!


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maggs224 4 years ago from Sunny Spain

I love that idea

"our ideas and the things that we've put on the internet via the hub pages will last for eternity"

The thought of something that I have written or a photograph that I have taken being out there on the WWW for anyone to see being accessible long after I am gone is thrilling.

I am just beginning to make a little money on hubpages which is really useful but even better than the money is the thought of it being out there.

If some one steals my work or photographs and the credit for them, well that is a shame, but it still doesn't alter the fact that it is mine and it is out there.

You can call a dog a cat but it won't make it a cat, you can call my stuff yours but it won't make it yours and there in lies my satisfaction it's mine and its out there.

I have had over three and a half million hits on my photographs on RedGage and for a working class girl born in the 1940s this is beyond my wildest dreams.

I have over a hundred thousand hits on HubPages and lots of comments on both sites and I am so grateful to both sites that they have given me a platform and made it easy for me to share my work.

This has been a really interesting read and so have the comments, voting up and hitting some buttons on my way out.


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Goody5 4 years ago from Bohville, USA, Just below the Mason-Dixon line in the land of the pleasant living Author

Thank you maggs224 for such a long thought out comment. Getting & receiving comments in return is what makes the hub pages such a truly wonderful place for me. This is now the 2nd time that I've seen one of my hubs copied & used in it's entirety, minus the photos of coarse. Like the last time, I left a comment with a link to my hub on the copied site. So far I've already gotten over 50 hits from that site. I'm going to make the most fun out of this as I can, and then I'm going to talk to the administrators of that web site. As far as the photo goes, it's on page one of Google, and by now countless people have seen it. What makes this so amazing is that the object photographed in hanging in a dark closet where no one can see it. That's totally ironic, and a gift as well. If I tried to photograph something for Google to post on page one, it would never happen in a million years. Thank you again maggs224 for the great comment.


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Goody5 4 years ago from Bohville, USA, Just below the Mason-Dixon line in the land of the pleasant living Author

JamaGenee & maggs224, Within just 19 hours of being given the heads up on the copied hub, it's now gone. I really don't know what happened, and I was just starting to have fun with that person. I was the only one to leave any comments there, and now I'll never know if I received any replies in return to my comments. That's life on the internet, however I did get a bunch of hits from the links I left there with my comments.


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kellyteam 4 years ago from Michigan

I Thank you for this hub. It is well put together and thought out. My only concern would be that if my work is stolen and then hubpages charge me with writing duplicate content. Has that ever happened to anyone? But you have a great point and I receive it. It's a great way to look at your work and not worry about it if your purpose is to share information. Voted up, and awesome and a share.


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Jo_Goldsmith11 4 years ago

omg! I too have fallen prey to those who *lift* my works, my slogans, quotes and I could go on and on. The ones I really care about and will be a part of something bigger, I will seek all resources to have it be removed and be compensated for the duress. Some of my works, I don't mind if it will help or benefit another. I actually received an e-mail one time that thanked me for the article. They directed me to where they polished it up and gave me a little credit. So it is a " copy a piece." Excuse the pun. I couldn't resist. shared, tweeted voted up! :)


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Rebecca E. 4 years ago from Canada

A very interesting take on this subject. I for one do not like my work copied, but at the same time, it does take a lot out of me when I see it copied.


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skye2day 4 years ago from Rocky Mountains

I am grateful you see the good in stolen material. Amen and Amen. God can turn all things for the good for those that love Him.

Romans 8:28

Way to go on writng this. It too courage and I am sure allot of work. God Bless you and yours goody5. Keep going Phil 4:13!!

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