The Hubpages Sucks Page

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Due to changes over the last two years, and finally with the 'idle hubs' feature I can no longer support or suggest joining Hubpages platforms. I have advised against multiple changes made by Hubpages, and the final choice to de-index hubs based on arbitrary factors is quite simply the last straw.

I'm not going in to details here, but needless to say - despite my previous recommendations of Hubpages I no longer feel that I can recommend this platform without risking my reputation.

Does Hubpages Suck?

There are a couple of websites that say Hubpages Sucks, I am goibg to prove them wrong.
There are a couple of websites that say Hubpages Sucks, I am goibg to prove them wrong.

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And laugh at those who say Hubpages Sucks while you make money!

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Introduction to Hubpages Sucks

There have been a few websites run by ex hubpages users recently that have been saying that Hubpages sucks. I thought to myself, hang on a minute, I make over a grand a month on this website. How does Hubpages suck?

Now the community that say Hubpages sucks is as expected rather small, they may all say Hubpages sucks. But judging by their grammar, their overly promotional stories, and even one person who was upset and said Hubpages sucks because he copied content off of a website, and was unpublished for duplicate content, maybe they deserved it.

Of course, I saw this as leaving me with only one option, I decided that I should inform all the people searching for information on Hubpages about just how good the program is. Not only am I going to tell them about how good Hubpages is, I am going to prove it by beating all the naysayers in the Google rankings for the keyword Hubpages sucks to make sure this is the top of the best article directories!

So don't listen to those who say Hubpages Sucks. If they want to Prove Hubpages Sucks, then maybe they should try and contradict what I say below!


Why Trust Me?

Why should you believe me when I say that I am right, and those people who say Hubpages sucks are wrong?

Well if the text to the left is not enough, I am one of many Hubbers who earn my daily living with the help of Hubpages. With Hubpages alone I earn over $1000 each month, supplimented by my other websites to earn a reasonable wage. After nearly a decade working in the SEO and web management field, I feel as if I can accurately talk about online article submission sites, and I can safely say Hubpages is one of the best!

This flies in the face of those who say Hubpages sucks, becaues they didn't want to put the effort in!

So Why Do People Say Hubpages Sucks (And Why Should I Not Be Worried?)

There are several Hubpages sucks arguments you see time and time again from people who say Hubpages sucks These people tend to be speaking out of personal vendetta, saying Hubpages sucks for reasons that are more or less their own fault. Let me list some of the reasons people say Hubpages sucks, and more importantly, why they are wrong!

Complaint - Hubpages sucks because they take your money/a percentage of your money and they do nothing!

The Reason - Hubpages does take a percentage, but they make it incredibly easy to insert adverts and sales modules, not to mention how their system really does help your page get to the top of Google for your Keywords!

Complaint - Hubpages sucks because you are meant to make money on their website and I did not.

The Reason - Hubpages does not pay you money, the advertisers (Adsense, Amazon, eBay, Kontera) pay you. That means that if you are not making any money off of Hubpages with these affiliate programs, you are unlikely to make money anywhere.

Complaint - Hubpages sucks because my hub was flagged as overly promotional!

The Reason - Hubpages, like any other website has to worry about spam articles devaluing the rest of the website. Hubpages will not let you just join up, write an article about your own website or some affiliate product in sales speech, and then past a load of affiliate links. Instead try providing information, with just one link back to your own website.

Complaint - Hubpages sucks because they flagged my site for duplicate content, but why should I write unique content when they do not pay me?

Reason - Hubpages might not pay you, but the with good quality unique content the advertisers will. Try asking yourself why you think duplicating your own content, or stealing from others, will bring you any profit, since duplicated content does not work well in Google. Instead write your own unique content to give you search engine success with Hubpages!

Complaint -Hubpages sucks because the forum is full of clubs, people who band together, trolls, people who are ignorant, etc.

Reason - Yes the forum has some specific groups of friends, and like any group of friends you are not just going to walk in to any of them uninvited. But remember the Hubpages forum has thousands of users and you can find people who share your interests. Also BE WARNED, there are people who will also disagree with you, even about your deeply held beliefs if you are religious. If you feel as if you are offended by anything in the forums, no one is making you post or read the forum. You can still make a lot of money, even if you avoid the forums altogether.

However I personally find most of the forum content is enjoyable, and useful!

Complaint - My Hub has been flagged as substandard, I feel insulted, therefore Hubpages sucks!

Reason - Don't feel insulted, and definately don't think Hubpages sucks because of this,it's an automated system! Try cleaning up the grammar, increasing the word count, and picking up your SEO practices. Hubpages will flag your Hub as substandard for the exact same reasons that Google will. If your writing doesn't pass the Hubpages standard, chances are it won't rank well in Google either!

Does Hubpages Suck?

Does Hubpages suck? I think not, but feel free to accept my challenge and prove to me that Hubpages sucks.
Does Hubpages suck? I think not, but feel free to accept my challenge and prove to me that Hubpages sucks.

The Hubpages Sucks Challenge

In the weeks post publishing this Hub I will follow a few of my normal techniques to increase this Hubs position in the SERPs for the keywords Hubpages Sucks. If however you feel that I am WRONG and that Hubpages sucks, then feel free to create your own website/blog/lens/whatever to beat me to the top of the Google Rankings for Hubpages Sucks.

If you beat me through your normal marketing means, maybe Hubpages Sucks, but if you have to expend additional effort, buy a domain, spend money, all just to make a website that beats my hub about how Hubpages sucks, when I have managed to do it for the same keywords on a Hub that promotes Hubpages, well, maybe you need to rethink the Hubpages sucks argument!.

So can I make money on Hubpages?

The simple answer is 'maybe'. A lot of people who say Hubpages sucks are the exact same people who did not want to put the time or effort in to Hubpages to get the results. The truth is that with any technique to make money online, you will have to put in a lot of hard work. There will always be someone willing to work a little bit harder than you for the same keywords!

Despite those who say Hubpages sucks, I find that Hubpages is an amazing simple way to publish content online, and integrate Amazon/eBay adverts quickly and efficiently. Sorting an ad layout in Hubpages takes seconds, and with some of my ad layouts, the same thing would have taken hours on my own websites. Those who say Hubpages sucks should definitely thing about this!

There are those that say Hubpages sucks because it takes out 40% of your profits, but lets face it, for the time it saves, not to mention the exposure you get, Hubpages is one of the easiest ways to make money online, and you can sign up right here!

Can I Get Free Backlinks on Hubpages

I see this question a lot, and before I started making money with Hubpages, it was the reason I joined!

Those that say Hubpages Sucks because their backlinks were no follow, tend to be the people who tried to abuse Hubpages, thinking it was just another spam filled article directory such as eZine. However those who say Hubpages sucks do not seem to realise that in truth, Hubpages is more about quality, and that is what gives it it's high Google ranking and fast Google indexing!

The Conclusion to Hubpages Sucks

Those who say Hubpages sucks can feel free to try and prove me wrong. Infact if tehy can beat me for the Keyphrase Hubpages sucks I would like to know how they do it. As I work on promoting the keyphrase Hubpages sucks I will be doing nothing less than normal, however i am confident that it will not take long for me to get my Hubpages Sucks page to the top of Google for the words Hubpages Sucks!

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emievil 6 years ago from Philippines

Rate up! I hope you get to be number one in the "Hubpages Sucks" keywords and trounce all of the others. :)


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alexandriaruthk 6 years ago from US

very personal reasons and complaints isnt it, i like HUBPAGES a lot, it is almost complete you just need to learn a bit and then you can earn, Thanks for this one,


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drej2522 6 years ago from Augusta, GA

Hmmm...A positive spin on our great site we call hubpages. REFRESHING! It seems like these days, everyone is all about the negative aspect (not just hubpages, but everything in general). Nice work...


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Misha 6 years ago from DC Area

Great Idea Oli! Will help you with some backlinks. I would suggest somebody write "hubpages scam" hub too. Any takers? I will help with promotion, too :)


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Randy Godwin 6 years ago from Southern Georgia

Good points and all valid, as far as I can tell by my time here. Of course, I do not write here for the money but am surprised when I make some. I do very little backlinking nor keyword searches but still find some of my hubs on the first page of Google.

Like some have stated, HP is what you make of it.


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Jeffrey Neal 6 years ago from Tennessee

Good hub! Dugg, tweeted, blogged, and facebooked. ;)


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CMHypno 6 years ago from Other Side of the Sun

Tweeted it for you thisisoli, so maybe you can dominate the twittersphere! This is the reason why forums are so bad though - I kept reading the ongoing saga rather than getting on with my writing!


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drej2522 6 years ago from Augusta, GA

Misha...me me me...done! Supporting the cause...


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thisisoli 6 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!) Author

Thanks for the support!

Can't wait for this to get indexed!


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Marisa Wright 6 years ago from Sydney

Good Hub, Oli! Every now and then, I Google for scam reports on another site where I used to write. I never thought to search for "HubPages scam" because, having been here two years, I know it isn't a scam and couldn't imagine anyone getting that impression. I'm surprised to find there are disgruntled people out there - usually because they were too impatient to find their way around the site before writing their Hubs.


Media Law 6 years ago

Be aware that some complaints against Hubpages and some HP members are valid:

http://www.personal-injury-info.net/libel-definiti...

It is also not a site of much interest to traditionally published authors--and may even be of detriment to their careers.


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thisisoli 6 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!) Author

This hub contains no malice towards any authors in particular, infact the whole point of this page is to provide support for Hubpages, and rather than Malice, it is offering a way for others to prove their point.

There are a few published authors on Hubpages, plenty of which write both their own books and in print media. How do you claim that Hubpages can be a detriment to a person's career?

traditionally published authors is an interesting term, especially with the new wave of published blogs, self publication and internet based publishers.


HubPages Scam 6 years ago

Very well done, the unifying thread among most of those claiming that "hubPages Sucks" seems to be illiteracy, or at least a complete lack of desire to learn anything about the online publishing world, you have provided some very useful information for the poor schmucks!


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Ann Nonymous 6 years ago from Virginia

I'm glad I wasn't the one who stumbled upon those websites of complainers! I love it here and glad you replied with mature comebacks!

This place is too good to be true so I'm sure if you give me a year or two I'll come up with a minor and very insignificant complaint but I am so happy now! Oh wait there was that time when the stats were disabled! LOL

Anyways great hub, oli!


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Obscurely Diverse 6 years ago from Tennessee, U.S., Earth, Milky Way via Cosmos

Good job, y'all! I went and did a quick check for your main Keywords and this hub, and a few others from this site are already ranking high in the major Search Engines. That was quick! Anyway, at the moment, this particular page ranked #1 in Yahoo! for "HubPages Sucks."

This was a great notion; maybe it will help shed more truth to the newbies - about HubPages, as opposed to getting advice from the angry haters out there.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands)

Excellent Hub, top class, and really puts right the myths being bandied about on the other site that claims 'Hubpages Sucks!' Thumbs up :)


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MyWebs 6 years ago from Sheridan, WY

I do own and run several web sites of my own. Why would I create content here for only a 60% cut when I could publish to my own domains and keep 100%? I asked myself this when I joined. There had to be some good reasons, otherwise I could just keep it all on my own.

For one my web page designs tend to suck. I'm rather CSS challenged. On HubPages I can focus on the content and not worry about how it will look. HP uses a nice proven layout that just works.

Another big reason is that HubPages pulls major authority weight in Google so it takes me much less work to rank well for my keywords. Being the 89th biggest web site online, HP helps us all out a lot. I have literally seen my content here indexed in Google 15 minutes later! And maybe the biggest reason of all is this is a community that helps each other out by teaching and sharing knowledge.

Oh yes HubPages sucks because they only give me 60% while they provide the hosting, bandwidth and technical support which comes with major authority in Google and Yahoo. Please, give me a break.

I bet not one of these losers who complain would have a clue how to setup a web site, write HTML, CSS, Javascript, Ajax, PHP and MySQL. Much less pull off a #1 on Google all on their own. While I do know all of these things, I still choose to publish here for reasons stated.


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Susana S 6 years ago

Another great hub Oli! Hubpages sucks so bad that it's allowed me to quit my day job! Hubpages sucks because it's helped me develop my writing skills and has allowed me to actually have a chance of writing my novel, which has been a lifelong dream for me! Hubpages sucks so bad that if I could I would give it a big, wet, sloppy kiss!


cosette 6 years ago

so that's what a gauntlet looks like. i was wondering ;)

you're right about effort. i am doing ok for very little effort, so i can only imagine how i would be doing if i spent more time on the whole hub experience. excellent hub.


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Ten Blogger 6 years ago

Nice hub.. well done and informative .


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ASHWINSPGA 6 years ago from Lion City ( Singapore)

Im surprised to learn about this HP scam site and even more surprised to see a well known hubber there. Even though i don't agree some of the things Hubpages do, i still find this place a wonderful place to write filled with lots of nice talented people like yourself. I love this article and appreciate the effort you put in bringing this info to us. thumbs up my friend. you got a fan.


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shazwellyn 6 years ago from Great Britain

As I have gone on and learned - with the help of gurus in the forums - I have come to realise how jolly clever hubpages staff are. They have included everything to help hubbers be successful. All these tools have been cleverly thought of and constructed. I am grateful to hp for teaching me something that I would never have dreamed of learning. Spread the Loooooove... spread hubber appeal. Thanks for producing this hub x


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Internetwriter62 6 years ago from Marco Island, Florida

Fantastic Hub! You have a wonderful attitude, and you write so well. I really like Hub pages, and they are not that strict, they don't penalize you for every misspelled word, or grammatical error like my English teachers back in high school did. With their editing tools, its easy to go back and correct your work, if you do find errors. I'm glad you wrote this. Keep up the good work.


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treasuresyw 6 years ago from Savannah, GA

Great Hubpages sucks hub. Anti hubpages sucks! I like it! Peace


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_cheryl_ 6 years ago from California

Great hub Oli!


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whcobb 6 years ago from Fort Campbell, KY

Great hub; Reminds of one I just read by sunforged... Very true words you speak. I do hubpages for fun and the majority of the earnings go to my church and charity with just 10% being saved for my childrens' trust funds/savings accounts. Thanks for the hub.

William Cobb

http://williamcobb.blogspot.com

http://hubpages.com/@whcobb

"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?"


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Dgenr8 6 years ago

Can't beat Hubpages, a great excuse to flaunt your creativity online, with the possibility of making a little cash on the side. A fantastic, warm community as well. Thank you for this article.


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Obscurely Diverse 6 years ago from Tennessee, U.S., Earth, Milky Way via Cosmos

Yeah, HubPages is good, but it sucks to get banned on forums for speaking your mind! A 'forum' = a 'discussion'...but it is not right for some candy-coated-daisy and/or pseudo-intellectual with aimless intentions, to flag people for having a stronger mind than their own. As for HubPages, this is the only thing thus far that I have truly found to "suck" in a dictionary-sense...as it sucks the brains out of the ones who combat the brainless ones! The bad thing about your keywords (HubPages Sucks), is that only people who have been to HubPages or already knows about HubPages would even type the query that involves 'sucks' with this domain! ;)


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thisisoli 6 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!) Author

UPDATE!!!

Well, we are already ranking third for the keyphrase "Hubpage Sucks" and for two of these days I have been in hospital undergoing an operation!

If this does not prove the power of hubpages then I don't know what does!


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ateenyi 6 years ago from Chicago

Good Hub!!!

Hub pages are the easiest to earn money and increase the overall income. The information is centrifuged in very coherent manner and presentation is of par excellence. Thanks a lot for sharing so useful information.

Keep on Hubbing


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Susana S 6 years ago

"If this does not prove the power of hubpages then I don't know what does!" Absolutely agree - it would have taken a lot longer than 3/4 days to get on the first page if this was a blog post, let alone at number 3!


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jenza20 6 years ago from Northamptonshire

Very interesting hub. I am a 'newbie' and I love it and your hub confirms why!!


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susanlang 6 years ago

This hub rules the website..very informitive, thank you.


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Deanna419 6 years ago from Ohio

I'm new to hubpages and just want to compliment you on your hub! There is a lot of great information to read here. Every website has their haters and complainers. People are never happy. It's nice to hear that there are plenty of successful hubbers here!


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jim10 6 years ago from ma

Great job Oli. I have been on Hubpages for quite a while. I make some money but, not a lot. I really don't have time to make lots of Hubs. But, I do put a lot of effort into the ones I have. I think I will check out some more of your hubs for suggestions. Thanks.


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katyzzz 6 years ago from Sydney, Australia

I don't think there is much wrong with Hub pages but nevertheless I think I should be making a lot more than the few measly dollars I have made over 14 months, obviously I am not Ms. popularity, but thus far I live with it.

I do think it has a lot of potential but apparently not for me.

It is very efficient I think. I'm glad that you make so much, well done.


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Flightkeeper 6 years ago from The East Coast

Very nice challenge to the naysayers Oli. They'd have to do a lot to beat it.


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travel_man1971 6 years ago from Bicol, Philippines

Hubpages sucks because I was bedridden for two days just making hubs after hubs for two sleepless but inspiring nights. Thanks, Oli. Sucks means a positive word to me right now when Hubpages is on the spotlight.


mdawson17 6 years ago

I loved this hub what a unique idea! Oh by the way I am an Austinite you will love it their!!

mdawson17


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nearbuystore.com 6 years ago from Somewhere on the highway....

Very nice hub thanks Oli.....what you get from hubpages is unbelievable in words of search engine optimisation without doing that much and can get you ranked in google in less than 24 hours rather then 3 months with your own website ....or a couple of years for most newbies :)


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JYOTI KOTHARI 6 years ago from Jaipur

Hi Thisisoli,

Hubpages is a business site for the owners. They are not a charitable organization. They, as every business, get their cut off from Google.

Where is the harm? How do they suck? We have a genuine partnership with Hubpages. Like any other business partnerships where both the partners have some obligations to fulfill, the publishers have to fulfill their obligations. Hubpages is generally right in their part.

We do not know how much percentage of an advertisement Google pays us. It is assumed that they pay about 25 percent on an average. Do they suck?

Thanks for sharing an extra ordinary hub.

Thumbs up!

Jyoti Kothari


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thisisoli 6 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!) Author

From what I have heard estimates are around 60% to 70% from Google as an adsense commission, although no-one really knows apart from the Google bods, even the people I know in Google wont tell me whats up :(


TattoGuy 6 years ago

Hubpages rocks, tis the only site were ya can actually make money if ya make an effort, I did, I do, nice hub !


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sabrebIade 6 years ago from Pennsylvania

Rated up and Book mark thingy'ed.


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Peter Dickinson 6 years ago from South East Asia

Hi thisisoli, I hope the operation was a success and that you are well on the mend. A

An interesting Hub. I really could not agree more. Many thanks and good luck in your Google rankings.


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2patricias 6 years ago from Sussex by the Sea

Hello Thisisoli

Fun Hub, and you have put together a good list of reasons why Hubpages is good.

We have our own website, and are near the top of search engines for our website title. We get to keep all the money (not that it is much) from our own site. BUT - we are limited to topics that are relevant to that site. We have tried adding new topics, but they don't get read. So we use Hubpages to write about other ideas that interest us, and sometimes earn a little money from tha.

Hubpages is a quick way to publish. Our own website requires a lot more time to put together a page. So we use Hubpages for experiments.

Sometimes we feel a topic has not worked on our website, but it seems a shame to waste the work. In that case we revamp the article for Hubpages. WE have learned from experience that articles need a slightly different slant to work well on Hubpages.

We have learned a lot from Hubpages, and from other Hubbers.

WE have found most Hubbers to be very helpful.

Generally we don't like the forums, but that is not a problem as we simply ignore them.

Thanks for an entertaining Hub - will give an UP rating.


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gracenotes 6 years ago from North Texas

Thanks for writing this, Oli. I am going to re-visit it a few times!

That is awesome that you are making a good living here on HP. Hope that you are feeling fine after your hospitalization. Good luck!


Don't believe the hype 6 years ago

If you care about the craft of writing, you will not display it here. This is for the kids who can barely put a verb and a noun together.


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Shalini Kagal 6 years ago from India

Very, very good, thisisoli!

I doubt anyone will pick up that gauntlet - simply because I can't see them understand the basics of how to drive web traffic to anything they write! The sad part is, there are so many great writers who seem to think they are the last word when it comes to the written word. So it goes beyond the ones who duplicate content or can't write. I don't think most of them have graduated beyond the age of print so one wonders why they don't just stick to it - unless they are willing to see HP as a hobby where they write just what they like. I do - and even though I just write what I feel like, thanks to HP, the traffic's actually taking off!


akycrawler 6 years ago

A grand per month is pretty good! How could that suck? I have had my problems here but overall I still find it the best place to write online and make money with adsense. Not to mention its a great place to get hi pr links to your sites.


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mynameisnotpaul 6 years ago from Kentuckeh'

I always think it's humorous when people complain about things like you mentioned (HubPages taking 40% of revenue). What's the big deal? HubPages is basically being nice enough to allow these disgruntled people to store their grammatically slaughtered writings on their website, and they want to complain about not receiving 100% revenue.

Ha.


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codehub 6 years ago

I hope you have the rights of the matter, your comment about your takings are most encouraging to this beginner


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myownworld 6 years ago from uk

Excellent hub! I completely agree about putting effort and hardwork into understanding how to make money here. Plus, that bit you put in about the forums was just great. A must read for everyone here (and even those who complain and quit!) Cheers!


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kea 6 years ago

Great information. A grand a month? That's quite impressive.


wordscribe41 6 years ago

Amen, you get out of it what you put into it. HP has been fantastic for me in many ways. Thanks for the hub!


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agvulpes 6 years ago from Australia

As they say in the classics 'nice one oli' :-)

Preaching to the converted here.!

On Hubpages you can have it both ways! You can write just for a Hobby or you can commercialise just about all you like and make a nice buck. What more could you want?

Oh yeah I forgot, you do have to put the work in LOL


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Lisa HW 6 years ago from Massachusetts

To expand on what agvulpes, above, said; you can even do both at the same time, not put in much effort, and still make pretty good money that amounts to, say, a part-time job income. I earn more on here than I do on other sites that operate similarly (or sort of similarly).

Besides the points mentioned in this Hub, I like the way things operate here. HubPages tells people what earns the most and what has to be done to increase earnings; but writers are left on their own to choose to write whatever it is they want to write.

Contrary to what many people think, Hubs don't have to be about commercial products in order to earn anything. Just as HubPages tells new writers, helpful/useful Hubs can earn (even without mention of products or buying anything).

As far as the forums go, I spent quite a bit of time using the forums as a way to take a break from work; and I never heard from HubPages. All anyone asks is that you don't use "bad words" and don't attack people; so if you don't do that you don't hear from anyone. Most of the time, most people were either "great" or "neutral". I've gotten into two or three "agree-to-disagree" things on there; and once (oopsie) I was trying to be kind of funny/"clever" and a lot of people misinterpreted my motives and were offended. If something like that happens you just deal with like a grown-up and as best you can, explain if you're in the mood to, and maybe stay away from the forums for awhile (misunderstandings are more likely to go on, the more time you spend there, and laugh off the rare nasty e.mail. None of it's anything anyone has to lose sleep over.

HubPages (at least in my opinion, as well as a lot of others') is a really nice site where people really can earn a decent-enough monthly income. It's easier to get traffic to the "right kind" of writing here, especially for the person who isn't interested in putting in a lot of work getting traffic. I have some stuff on here that wouldn't be earning any more anywhere else. There's a business deal between writers and HubPages, so I can't see begrudging HubPages for getting its share of earnings. Everyone has his right to his opinions about his own experience, of course. My opinion of HubPages is a very favorable one.


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thisisoli 6 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!) Author

Haha yeah the forums can be a minefield, when Iwas writing this hubpages sucks page I was tempted to go in to the forums in a bit more detail!


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knowledgeeater 6 years ago from Omaha, NE

Amazing! 1,000 dollars a month? I used to be part of a helium sucks club... But I will see how Hubpages goes...


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thisisoli 6 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!) Author

heh just noticed that this hubpages sucks hub has dropped from the first page of Google for Hubpages sucks, So I did an SEO audit to figure out why, and it seems the sheer number of comments which don't mention Hubpages Sucks has dropped the keyword proportion to around 5% for Hubpages Sucks when it used to be 4.5%. This is why Hubapges Sucks might be appearing excessively in this comment on my Hubpages sucks page :P


Kerry43 6 years ago

"hubpages Sucks" didnt suck too badly. Great read thanks mate. I tweeted and rated you.

Thanks

Kez:)


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thisisoli 6 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!) Author

Glad you enjoyed it!


Alex Zorach 6 years ago

I don't think it does much good to throw around insults or accusations that hubpages "sucks". But I do think that there are some legitimate concerns about hupages.

http://cazort.net/topic/hubpages-scam

My criticisms are not at all mentioned or addressed on this page. They are due to the fact that Hubpages is rather secretive (in my opinion, to the point of being dishonest by "not telling the whole truth") about their policies, including hubscore and use of rel="nofollow".

Do check out my criticism and let me know if you think it is legitimate or not.


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thisisoli 6 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!) Author

Hubpages is very upfront about their nofollow policies, if you read what they say they clearly state that if a Hub author does not have an easy to gain score of 75, or if an individual hub score is less than 40 (Very hard to create a hub which scores that low) then any outbound links will be nofollow.

There is no secrecy, it just helps weed out people who are using Hubpages to spam links.

Despite what your site says, this is mentioned in the FAQ.

Yes hubpages does take a 60% cut, but you can also use your own affiliate links where you receive 100% of the earnings.

I personally gladly give up the 40% for the ease of use of inserting amazon and eBay modules in to a structured layout.

And when it comes to traffic, I receive a huge amount of traffic for much less work than on my personal websites. I have less than 200 hubs, and yet my blogs with over 300 posts each pull in less daily traffic than my combined hubs. Even better the traffic rarely becomes stale, and tends to increase over time, rather than decrease, thanks to updates from other users which can being in fresh avenues for web spiders to explore my work.

While I do appreciate your views (I actually came to hubpages, wrote a few hubs linking back to my site and then left, only coming back 8 months later to explore some erroneous adsense earnings) I do think you should give Hubpages a much bigger shot than you actually did.


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killrats 6 years ago from Cape town South Africa

Well as they say, each man to his own. I have not made a dime but that is not hubpages fault, its mine, I don't know what I am doing.

I will look out for your next hub.


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Lisa HW 6 years ago from Massachusetts

Rated up by me too.


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lorlie6 6 years ago from Bishop, Ca

Hi thisisoli-I saw your posts on Pedantic HubPages and wanted to thank you for your ongoing support of this community. There are some pretty testy individuals there, and your defense of this site is heartening.

I do appreciate what you've done here in this hub as well.

Thanks so much!


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timonweller 5 years ago

Nice share and i agree, hubpages is a good source of income, sharing ideas and backlinks. Hubpages does not suck.. hehehe


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Juiceyme 5 years ago

Excellent hub,I enjoy Hubpages very much. I am a Newbie still learning. I want to perfect Internet Marketing, the right way. Right now I am still making mistakes. I am not a good writer since I am not very good at expressing things. Trying to write it is even harder. I surely don't want to put together any Spammy Junk. I have some things I have to share that realy are good. Just having a hard time putting it together. I will Learn one day. Reading Hubs like yours is helping a lot. Thank you for sharing.


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Michael Durden 5 years ago

Nice hub. I agree with you, HubPages doesn't suck as long as you put the work into it. There are many advantages.


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thisisoli 5 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!) Author

Just so you all know, this page is ranking number one in Google for Hubpages Sucks!


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iamalegend 5 years ago from EARTH

That's great.After reading Edweirdo's interview on hubpages blog, i heard he says that you are a constant victim of hub thieves. And i checked one of your hub. i have to inform you that your hub 'best chrome addons' has been copied by someone on the internet.He also stolen many hubs from hubpages.


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Rick Ogilvie 5 years ago

Hubpages Sucks was a good read (and entertaining to boot, wasn't what I had expected), and I'm inclined to agree with everything stated in the article. One vote up, and one more ' Hubpages Sucks ' to help out with the google ranking (;


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thisisoli 5 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!) Author

Glad you enjoyed it! :)


Jess 5 years ago

Actually, hubpages DOES suck. Some guy blasted my account with backlinks from profiles and I got my account banned. I wrote to hubpages and never heard back. Thank you hubpages. Thanks for making it so easy for some angry competitor to get rid of his competition by simply linking to your hubs.


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smcopywrite 5 years ago from all over the web

each to their own and everyone has their own opinion. everyone has different experiences with hubpages and they may have valid reasons based on their opinion of any site not simply hubpages. excited to see the response to your challenge and the money that you are generating based on your hub that hubpages sucks is proving them wrong already. keep up the good work.


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thisisoli 5 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!) Author

This Hub?

If you have seen this content before it has been stolen from me.


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Lady Wordsmith 5 years ago from Lancaster, UK

Nah, HubPages doesn't suck. I don't make a cent, but still, I continue to write here. It's not HubPages fault that I don't make any money though - I have nothing to advertise, nothing to sell at present, and no real wish to write about stuff that doesn't interest me. I suppose I could work hard and make money if I really wanted to (I suppose I could, though I have not the foggiest idea how that's actually done!), but that's not why I'm here.

Good hub, very positive. I wonder why I never saw it before today though!

Linda.


bubba 5 years ago

You are not making a GRAND a month now are you. Hubpages is clueless. Run by idiots. ON a path to nowhere.

And you know that.


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Jlava73 4 years ago from Cyberspace and My Own World

This is a great Hub! I'm with you, Hubpages has one of the Best models I've seen.


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Stevennix2001 4 years ago

Wow, very interesting hub. I don't know how I could've missed this one. To be honest, I think it takes a lot of talent and skill to succeed on this site, and I can definitely tell that you're one of them based on what you've written here. Unfortunately, I'm not one of these people, even though I have had followers tell me otherwise. lol. Of course, I have a tendency to be my own worst critic, so that's another story that I won't bother to bore you with. However, I think you do make a lot of good points, and I think it's great that you made this hub.

As much as I see people complain on here, it always seems like these same people that do are the EXACT same people that kiss the staff's butts the instant there's a new feature and/or they announce good news. Yet, they condemn them openly when even the slightest thing goes wrong.

Personally, it just makes me sick sometimes. Then again, that's just me. Anyway, good hub.


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Bard of Ely 4 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

Another brilliant hub, Oli, that gets my vote upwards! I can certainly see why you do so well here and elsewhere! I personally have found this to be the best site for publishing my articles on so I disagree with those that say HubPages sucks anyway!


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jeremejazz 4 years ago from Philippines

another thing that makes hubpages suck is that once you get flagged, every time you post a new topic you will always have to ask permission from the staff before publishing and you'll have to do that forever

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