First Two Years on HubPages

HubPages is Like a Roller Coaster

Riding along on HubPages, going up the steep peaks and down towards the ground. This poster is available on Amazon. See below.
Riding along on HubPages, going up the steep peaks and down towards the ground. This poster is available on Amazon. See below.

June Is My Anniversary Here

Two years ago, I joined HubPages from a person I knew on Squidoo and he is more popular here on HubPages. You know him as bgamall.

Being on HubPages has been a roller coaster for me. Chugging along the rail to reach the top, getting closer and closer to the first peak (can you feel the excitement) and zooming fast down to the bottom, then make a few turns and bumps to chug up the rail to the top again. Zoom down to the bottom.

Don't get me wrong, I love roller coaster rides. Just not in social writing. Where my hub score has reached the low 90s at one time and at the moment has crashed down to the 70s. At one timed it bothered me when it went into the 80s. The mid 80s is where it has stayed steadily for about a year until recently of this writing. No doubt after reading this Hub, my score will plummet further. Then I will be riding the Kiddie Coaster. No high peaks and close to the ground.

It doesn't matter. I have receive a lot of advice. Much of it I have appreciated the help. Then there was the email from a Hubber who has a score in the high 90s. Criticized my Getting Stone hub as being unprofessional. I visited his hubs which all seem to be capitalized and in bold print. Yeah, that is real professional. Doesn't he know that writing in all capitals and in bold print is like SHOUTING AT THE READER!

What has kept me here on HubPages are some of the people I have met. The t-shirts (above) do have some truth to them. Not all my friends are in this network, but I have met people here I would like to stay friends with.

I haven't always loved HubPages. I have liked it. I have enjoyed some of the contests that I have entered for recipes, health and travel. These were some of my best hubs, though never won any awards or gain much in traffic. There are some great groups for Newbies, like Hub Nuggets that I had missed out on.

People claim how much they have made in Adsense being a Hubber. It has to be that keyword usage and I...don't click. A few months ago, I received my first $100 from Adsense. Perhaps half of that can be contributed to this network.

At one time most of my sales on Amazon were because of the items I had listed in some of my hubs. Though now that I am utilizing more of my Affiliate Amazon ID in other networks, this is no longer the case here.


The copyright to this article is owned by Sandy Mertens (sandyspider). Permission to republish this article in print or online must be granted by the author in writing. (You can, however, freely use the opening introduction and photo with a link to the article here on HubPages to read the remainder of the article.)

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LINCOLN PARK COMET Roller Coaster 1947

Joining Seekyt

Hubber Dave Stone convinced me to join Seekyt. I have written a few articles there. It is still new and it is harder to find fans. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles. But once you get familiar with it, one can have a good looking article. So far I find it is a very friendly network where I can feel appreciated for my writing. I even received positive feedback from Admin in an email.

Not Leaving HubPages…Yet

I am in limbo, wanting to continue writing here, but not sure if it is worth it for me. I am not leaving for now. But I may take some of my articles that are on here and add them to where it will be more beneficial.

HubPages has benefited me in other ways, with my connection with Gary (bgamall), I have branched off formatting his writing in downloadable books which I am not sure I can mention or show here. According to the Hub Team, ebooks are not allowed. I have continued on with this formatting service and even converting a book into Kindle format for Amazon for another client. If you would like to know more about this contact or even if you only need a book cover image, contact me here or email me at sandy@sandyspider.com Gary has posted about this on a forum here. My Ebook Was Approved by Smashwords Premium

Gary also has devoted a page about me on his website STRATEGICDEFAULTBOOKS.com Get Your Ebook Published by Sandy Mertens

I have helped (mistyhorizon2003) Cindy's step dad James Cassaday convert his books into ebooks for Smashwords and Amazon Kindle too.

Should I Stay or Should I Go

Do you want to see me go?

  • Of course not. Stay, we love your hubs.
  • Yes, by all means.
  • Don't really care one way or the other.
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irenemaria profile image

irenemaria 5 years ago from Sweden

Hi pretty spider! I have the same feelings like you. But I am here - still! =)


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Hi Irene, I am not about to sugarcoat anything. Glad you know where I am coming from.


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bgamall 5 years ago from Las Vegas, Nevada

Hi Sandy, thanks for the flattering comments. I think you should stay and write what you want. I view Hubpages as practice and it helps writers learn how to write. So, I think that Hubpages is important for that. If a Hub takes off then keep it. If it doesn't then do what you want with it. If it meets the guidelines of the staff, then I would keep it.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Gary, it is just another way of being found online.


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Neil Sperling 5 years ago from Port Dover Ontario Canada

:-) --- All aboard!


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CMHypno 5 years ago from Other Side of the Sun

Congratulations on your 2 year anniversary Sandyspider. Hope you have a big cake with candles and a glass of champagne"


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Pamela99 5 years ago from United States

Sandy, I have been feeling the same way you are as the amount of money coming in is hardly worth all the effort particularly after having to change and work on so many old hubs. I will say I like a lot of the people here and also that I've learned a lot.

I couldn't vote as I don't know what to tell you to do I think you can keep Hubpages open and pursue other sites a little more vigorously maybe. I think it is fantastic that your e-book was picked up which is more than I've accomplished. I think you have a lot to be proud of and I would just blow off the nasty e-mail as I'm sure most people don't feel that way. The main thing is to just keep writing.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Thanks Neil, CMHypno and Pamela.


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David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

The problem, of course, is that Hubpages offers many fewer opportunities to control your content than other article sites, like SEEKyt and Squidoo (where, by the way, my revenue is roughly four times what I get on HP and a much pleasanter environment. None of the sniping you get here.

Hubpages promotes the mirage that they publish articles, not blogs. I can't see the difference, other than that my blog on Blogger is vastly more flexible and open than HP.

There's a reason HP's total monthly views have been falling while others, like Squidoo, are rising. Take a ride on Squidoo, Blogger or SEEKyt, promote your favorite products and affiliates at will (not spamming, of course) and experience the refreshing difference.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Yes Dave you are so right.


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands)

Sandy, you are a wonderful and skilled person. You should have mentioned to people how wonderful you are at converting books into Ebooks for people who can't do it for themselves. You have certainly helped out my Step Dad big-time, and for a very fair price :)


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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA

I rather like HubPages, but it's much easier to promote and use Zazzle images on either Squidoo or the new Wizzley, which is formatted very much like HubPages. However, I see no reason to leave HubPages. I like it and enjoy writing here. I actually prefer HubPages for some types of work. I'd hate to see you go, Sandy. Everyone's score fluctuates, especially if they stay away for a while. Each site has it's strong points, but I'm not earning much here except if I win contests.


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kingis 5 years ago from Springfield, IL

Congrats on your two year anniversary. I hope you stay but I can understand if you do not. Keep up the good work regardless of what happens.


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drbj 5 years ago from south Florida

It's nice to see you again, Sandy. Missed you and your always interesting hubs. Congrats, too, on the 2-year mark. Please do stick around.


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Powerpoe1 5 years ago

Congratulations! 2 Yrs on HubPages~ Don't go, please stay...imagine that you are a tree and just start branching off in different directions. ;D Congrats! on your other projects as well. Happy Hubbing~


GrandmaMarilyn 5 years ago

I wish I could help you but I don't know which way you should go. You have to follow your own heart.


Fay Paxton 5 years ago

Congratulations on your 2 year anniversary. I hope you stay and continue to write great hubs.


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David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

It's true that you create wonderful stuff, but there are limits. Only one Sandy to go around. Invest that amazing value where it will be best used and earn the most interest in you. Having seen so much of your work, I can't believe an artist like you can do best on Hubpages.

Hubpages is great for a specific kind of writer. But I honestly don't believe you fit the definition of one who will thrive here. You can't even link up well or extensively with your other work. That's crazy. So, leave what you want here, migrate some things to more suitable platforms and stay refreshed, but don't put yourself through all this unnecessary anguish. People without half your talent are sending your rankings downhill, and it hurts your feelings, if not your earnings. Makes no sense to let that continue. People who care for you and respect you will follow wherever you go.


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Powerpoe1 5 years ago

@ David Stone~ Great Advice!


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Thanks for your comments and advice everyone.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

I added to this hub that I have and still working on converting books of (mistyhorizon2003) Cindy's step dad into downloadable books.

Dave, I am too nice of a person to vote people down. But you are right. I believe there are many hubbers who do this and have done this to me.


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marcoujor 5 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

Sandy, My Dear,

I am reading all of the comments, in addition to your article, and I am so glad I stopped by.

I am fairly new and had no idea that anyone had been unkind in remarks to you. I am actually so angry right now about another friend who has been needlessly badgered by a brand new idiot, who simply wanted to hear herself rant. I truly wish folks would be courteous or be quiet.

I have, however, missed you to the point of looking elsewhere for your work. I love your writing and admire your skills. I intend to bookmark this for future reference.

I also agree with the remarks of David Stone. I think you need to follow your heart, and your friends will follow you.

Voted UP & USEFUL & AWESOME-- take care, mar.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Thank you marcoujor. The easiest way to find me would probably type in Google: Sandyspider and Sandy Mertens

Besides HubPages, you can find me on Squidoo, Seekyt, Redgage, eZine Articles (though not active there) and my blogs. This is only a partial list.


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David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

Sandy, don't forget to let everyone know about your fun and creative stuff on Zazzle. Three stores, right?


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Four Zazzle stores. Once someone goes into Zazzle and check my Sandyspider shop, they click on profile and the four stores will show up on the left side.


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IslandVoice 5 years ago from Hawaii

Keep writing and stay in our community, we need each other here. I don't like rollercoaster rides, and like you get affected by the scoring and it's fluctuation. If it's high, i'm happy. If it's low, i try not to let it bother me too much. I get past it, and write again. Who knows what can happen next? Maybe i can follow your thread on this one...


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SUSIE DUZY 5 years ago from Delray Beach, Florida

Congrats and good hubs,keep them comin!


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jewelsofawe 5 years ago from Oregon

I don't know what you should do. I would say stay. I have never done well here, but I stay anyways and hope for better days...


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moonvine 5 years ago from South Carolina

I don't do well here either, but I do think it is important that we write in all kinds of different places. And I am lovin Wizzley! lol


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David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

Jewelsofawe, knowing you and you wonderful work on Squidoo, I am absolutely certain you have better options. Nobody with yours or Sandy's talent needs to accept second or third best. Wizzley seem to getting some followers. I also get better results on SEEKyt and much, much better results, plus ease of use on Blogger. If anyone needs more details, please contact me with a side message. I'd be happy to help you get there. I got fed up and stopped posting here a while back. Don't miss the inflexibility at all.


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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA

David, maybe you could blog on this and send us the link? I seem to be a lonely blogger. The advice seems to be to host your own blog, but I see people who blog on blogging sites hosted by others (Crabby Beach, etc) sometimes have a larger network to take advantage of for promotion purposes.


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David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

There are many ways to approach writing online. I started with Hubpages and gradually became frustrated with the restrictions, which pushed me to look around. I found numerous opportunities that were easier, more flexible, and friendlier as a community. Most notable was Squidoo, but I also like SEEKyt and Blogger and write for all three. As for a specific blog about this, the best I can offer is "My Last Hub and Why," right here on HP.


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Grant's World 5 years ago from Canada

Hi Sandy,

Congrats on the milestone.

I think you should stick around HubPages. Add 1 or 2 Hubs a month.

I backed away from HubPages this past winter to pursue making money on eBay which i am still working on. I even tried 1 article on Squidoo but shyed away from all the options lol. After hearing what David Stone had to say though I think I will go back to Squidoo and see what the possibilities are.

I like using HubPages though. No I don't make much but I do enjoy using the site and posting Hubs once in awhile.

I also think the more places you have something going on the more chances of making money. Just don't focus on this site if it's not your money maker.

Plus I would miss you as you were one of the 1st Hubbers I fanned and have ever since kept an eye out for you ;)

Take care.

Grant.


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Cagsil 5 years ago from USA or America

Hey Sandy, I will be approaching my 2 years anniversary as well. Congratulations on being here that long. :) Happy Anniversary! :) I will agree, it has been a rollercoaster ride here at HP, but I have enjoyed my time here. I've also enjoyed many of the people I come in contact with. I've managed to learn from many and I hope you will honor the rest of who have stayed, by staying. :) Thumbs up! :)


PWalker281 5 years ago

I used to think that hubscore was all about traffic, but I'm not so sure now. I think if you kiss HP's %ss a little, which I have done by writing hubs on a couple of their programs, they raise your score. But botttom line, don't identify your ability as a writer with your hubscore. And the nasty things people say about you say more about them than they do about you.

I like writing on the HP platform because it gives me a lot of formatting flexibility. But I am also writing at Seekyt (as you well know :-)) because I don't want to "put all of my income writing eggs in one basket." I may check out Squidoo next once I get some more articles under my belt here and at Seekyt. And I do have a crochet blog that I've been neglecting, but it's on wordpress.com which doesn't give me a lot of ways to make money from what I write there.

I voted for you to stay, but the decision is really yours to make. Perhaps you can pull back on the amount of time you spend writing here to build up your repertoire of articles on the other sites you write for. And this ebook thing sounds very interesting. I'm definitely going to check it out!


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boutiqueshops 5 years ago from Corpus Christi, Texas

Congratulations on your 2 year anniversary on HubPages, Sandy! I always love reading your work. Best wishes to ya,

sylvia


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howcurecancer 5 years ago

A big congrats from me for 2 years on HubPages. I am not in a position to give you an advice, but your work till now on HubPages is huge and I love it.


CherylsArt 5 years ago

Bless you Sandy in figuring out what serves you best.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Looks like Dave is here more than me. LOL

I am not putting HubPages down and making money here is totally with your affiliate IDs. If it works then great, if you suck at it like me, then not so great.

Squidoo shares commission and pays by what they call tiers in ranking. I am always making money there. If anyone is interested in starting there, please contact me for my referral link.

Funny, that the people talking about Hubscores here have high scores. I never liked scoring systems. It seems like there are too many people who use this unfairly. Though is seems like every site has them in some way. But I do believe there are a number of Hubbers who have been voting me down.

I just joined Wizzley and see it is on a scoring system too. Haven't added anything yet but looking through the members, I would say half are Hubbers and half are Squidooers. Ask me for my referral :)


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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA

Glad you joined Wizzley, Sandy. I'll look forward to seeing you there. Everybody starts at a really low score there. I've only seen one person with a score of 100 and she's been there since about Day 1, I think. most others who started out this week are in the 20's and 30's. I have no reason to think it's not fair, though. I think you just have to put the time in and write more to get the scores up from ground level.


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David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

I checked out Wizzley, an obvious Squidoo ripoff. And full of ways to control the revenue for themselves, just like Hubpages. Some people never learn. You don't have to do that, and you don't have to use copycats without any original ideas of their own.

Sorry, Sandy. I subscribed to comments, so I get notices, but I'm unsubscribing now.


PWalker281 5 years ago

Sandy, I have no idea why my hubscore is so high. As I said, I thought it was about traffic, but I'm sure your 78 hubs get a lot more traffic than my 36, so I really can't tell you.

No, I don't like scoring systems either, one of the reasons I stopped teaching in post-secondary schools. I wanted all of my students to pass and figured if they didn't but were putting forth the effort, then my teaching methods were in some way at fault.

I do know of one hubber who no longer writes on HubPages, who had a low hub score, but was making money hand over foot because he was very good at SEO. Even his hubs had low scores because they consisted mostly of photos of tattoos, but he was making money on those too which means he was getting traffic. So clearly, the hubscore isn't all about traffic. With that said, I think I'll stop talking about hubscore because it takes my focus away from writing.

Whatever you decide, Sandy, I know you'll do well.


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nightbear 5 years ago from Michiagn, USA

Sandy I think you should stay, you have a lot invested. But just hubpages for the backlink if nothing else. Spend your time where it is most profitable and most fun. Why make it hard on yourself. These folks that have commented have all indicated how much they care for you. So where ever you are, you will be loved and friends will be there.


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Trekkiemelissa 5 years ago from Illinois

Sandy, stay. Don't worry about the negative comments. Do what you are doing. Its good to have this along with your other avenues too. You may not be making a whole lot, but I am sure it will come in time as you continue on writing. Its best to not have everything all in one basket after all.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

This is true about the basket thing. However, I have too many baskets. LOL


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Trekkiemelissa 5 years ago from Illinois

Yeah, I know what you mean. Just keep what you have and just add stuff from time to time when you think its best for the site. Even if you don't add anything else, you will still have these hubs here to maybe one day make you money. We all get frustrated. I have my moments.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Thanks, Melissa.


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Chin chin 5 years ago from Philippines

Congratulations on keeping the Hubpages roller coaster ride for two years. More power writing.


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kiwi91 5 years ago from USA

Congratulations on two years on Hubpages! I've never done phenomenally well here either. I took some of my hubs that received zero traffic to my own sites. It's not worth it to leave those ones. Breaking it down per hour and per word, I receive much more on Squidoo, and recently, more on personal blogs. Until I see an improvement in the traffic and earnings, I'm writing elsewhere.

Personally, I've left most of my hubs published. I think in most people's cases it's worth it to leave MOST of your content up, and pull down the content that gets little to no traffic. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Chin chin and kiwi91, thanks for your comments.


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D.A.L. 5 years ago from Lancashire north west England

Sandyspider, congratulations on your two years. I think that all that can be said has been stated in the comments your hub as provoked.Best wishes to you in the future and I hope you find success wherever you find to promote your talent.


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Jhangora 5 years ago from Dehradun

Congrats on completing 2 years on Hubpages Sandy. Even I have been considering whether I should leave Hubpages and just focus my attention on Squidoo.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

D.A.L. and Jhangora, thanks for the congrats.


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Eiddwen 5 years ago from Wales

A great hub and I vote up. here's to many more hubs to share.

Take care

Eiddwen.


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RTalloni 5 years ago from the short journey

Congrats on your anniversary!!! Hope you'll be posting a new update each year.

Thanks for an interesting hub that I learned a lot from. The video is super--that's the only roller coaster ride I've ever enjoyed. I've done it because I am brave (sometimes), but have never enjoyed it. :) Loved seeing the people of those times in that setting.

I'll be back to review what you've written and to look more closely at the comments this hub has generated. I have much to learn yet--and sometimes don't even know what questions to ask, but I continue to read, read, read. Feel that I may be ready to take some "next steps" soon.

I have a confession to make to you that might make me a laughing stock. I have not looked at much of your work because I have a real phobia about sp--rs. However, your kindness in stopping by one of my recent hubs encouraged me to ignore this phobia and check out this hub. Now I want to look at more of your work. :)


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prasetio30 5 years ago from malang-indonesia

Congratulations for your achivement in two years. I had passed difficult time with this site. I found many good people in HubPages who always support me. Sandy, you always be in my heart. Just keep it up. Though you write for other site, but please don't leave HubPages. Thank you very much.

Prasetio


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Thanks for your support.


Duchess OBlunt 5 years ago

Hi Sandyspider, do stick around. The pennies will continue to trickle in and you can do what I do, and use HubPages to continue to meet great people, and to "practice" as bjamall advises.

I don't think there is any harm in keeping it open.

Coincidentally, June is also my 2 years on HubPages. I make a whopping $6.00 a month here! :) But then, I'm not trying very hard at it either.


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naturegirl7 5 years ago from South Louisiana

Hi Sandy,

I've only been on HubPages a little over 6 months. I'm trying to build up the number of hubs I have, then I plan to focus more on Squidoo, which I have been neglecting.

If I were you I'd stay...More exposure, more back links. Each site has good features and they compliment each other. And when you get unwarranted negative comments, remember the old saying, "Sticks and stones...", then hit the deny button. ;)


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Thanks naturegirl7. Those sticks and stones are hard to reach me too.


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glassvisage 5 years ago from Northern California

This is an interesting Hub and very intriguing to read your thought processes. I appreciate being able to read these thoughts and considerations. I have been on HubPages for what will be 5 years in October, and while there have been times that I have been annoyed by what I consider overly critical or unprofessional Hubbers and commenters, I have never considered leaving HubPages. At first I thought it was fun, and then as time when on and I started making money after a year or so, I saw it as a way to actually supplement my income. Overally, the primary reasons why I have stayed have been the meaningful comments and support I have gotten. I think it's worth it to stay, even if you don't have that much time to commit, as I have not had lately. Best of luck.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

Well I hope you stay, Sandy, and you can now add me to the people you have helped too!


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Thanks glassvisage and Bard of Ely. I have had some good comments from people. So I appreciate it. But my Scott Walker hub it is a mix of comments. Course I am right and they are wrong. LOL


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

My good friend author and singer-songwriter Anthony Reynolds is a Scott Walker devotee and has written a book on the Walker Bros. I have hubs about Anthony. I am proud to be included in his latest book: The Remarkable Life of Leonard Cohen. He (Anthony) is on Facebook.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

I forgot that there is the singer Scott Walker. Mine is a political hub about Governor Scott Walker.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

Well, I hadn't got to your actual hub and just assumed it was the singer! Thanks for explaining!


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Neil Sperling 5 years ago from Port Dover Ontario Canada

glad to see you are sticking around :-)


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Thanks Neil. Guess I will just keep on forging ahead and any hubs the team doesn't like will be moved somewhere else. I am content now being in the 70s and 80s. There is a certain amount of popularity here. Though I am friends here with many of the top hubbers.


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Neil Sperling 5 years ago from Port Dover Ontario Canada

hugs


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Peggy W 5 years ago from Houston, Texas

I'd forget the numbers as to any meaning. I think that it relates to how much time is spent on hubbing...not the quality of content. I found this hub and all the comments of much interest. I have only written on HubPages and started with zero knowledge as to blogging. I have learned much and met some great people here from around the world. Good luck with whatever you decide to do but hope that you decide to stay.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Peggy, that may be true to an extent. But I had spent a great deal of time on HubPages. I commented, gave thumbs up and read many hubs. And still the numbers were down. I know people with very few hubs, don't spend much time here and have high hub scores. I do believe there are many hubbers who like to vote me down.


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David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

The biggest influence, I think, on hubpages can be derived from look at the stats and what they consider important: outside links and $$$ potential. Another thing the algorithm credits is time spent on a hub and bounce rate. You can rate and read as much as you like. It won't do nearly as much as keeping people reading and drawing back links. That's what they're counting.

I know because I do hardly any of those things, and my rating stays around 90, no matter what.


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Sandyspider 5 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Thanks for the advise, Dave.


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katyzzz 4 years ago from Sydney, Australia

Wow, Sandy , from the number of comments here you really sruck a chord, hub pages for me promised a lot but has delivered a little, nothing much at all really. But the people here are much nicer than elsewhere it seems


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Sandyspider 4 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

katyzzz,If it weren't for the nice group of people here, I wouldn't be on HubPages. I am definitely not staying for the lack of earnings.


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adrienne2 4 years ago from Atlanta

Hi Sandy, do continue to stay on I just happen to come across your this particular hub. I noticed you said you make money on Squidoo, I have tried, and tried with Squidoo but never made a dime. Stick around we love you here!


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Sandyspider 4 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Thanks adrienne2.


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David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

Adrienne, some platforms just work better for some people than others. I do way better on Squidoo and somewhat better on SEEKyt than I ever did on HP. I don't think that reflects the quality of any platform, but just how writers' styles differ.

We should try as many as we can, just to see what works. A recent discovery for me is Triond, where I fined it super easy to write and get instant earnings.

No matter what you do, keep writing, no matter where it is.


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fanfreluche 4 years ago from France (but Canadian at heart)

Interesting to read your history, good and bad, with hubpages. I registered 3 years ago but just started to write here last week end. I think it is good not to put our eggs in the same basket.


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Sandyspider 4 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

fanfreluche, I agree.


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lex123 2 years ago

Very interesting about your hub journey of two years.

Now it is time to write another hub - completion of your 4 years on hubpages. Looking forward to reading it.


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Sandyspider 2 years ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

lex123 I am behind at writing here. Need to update what I have.


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Glenn Stok 2 years ago from Long Island, NY

It's been a roller coster for me too. As far as I can tell, it's been that way for everyone. Unfortunately, many good writers gave up and abandoned ship when we were are the low point after Panda hit. But in reality, it wasn't HubPages causing the ups and downs, it was Google.

I was following Matt Cutts blogs as he kept webmasters informed of what Google was up to, and I saw that HP kept trying to satisfy Google, which is probably why HP succeeded, and the roaster coaster went up hill again.

Some Hubbers didn't understand this and they thought HP was just making their lives difficult. I, for one, kept updating hubs when Google made announcements about things, such as too many ads being considered spamming.

Following Google's requirements helped keep me in the game, even though it was a rough ride.


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Sandyspider 24 months ago from Wisconsin, USA Author

Glenn Stok I do realize that HubPages was trying to make Google happy. Though in some cases I thought they went to far. But it was more about Google. Places like Squidoo did not go along with the Panda hit right away. Then made drastic changes all at once which really hurt them.

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