Unsolved Mysteries - The Elusive HubScore Code

Get out the slide rule to calculate scores

Maybe a slide rule will help calculate the Hub Score.
Maybe a slide rule will help calculate the Hub Score. | Source

Mystery of the Hub Score

There’s an unsolved mystery at HubPages. Hundreds of brilliant writers have tried their hand at solving it. Staff members have attempted to unravel it. New writers think they have it figured out. Veteran writers try to decode it. The mystery? Hub Scores and Author Scores!

Have your read the Da Vinci code? Secret codes and messages...There must be secret messages hidden in the HubPages newsletters and blogs. It’s only a matter of time before I figure out the elusive Hubscore code. By my calculations, it should be ((HSC x VPD x CPH) * 7) /2C +AS=HS. Squared. Or maybe cubed.


Does Timeliness and Popularity Determine Hub Score?

I thought I had the Hubscore code solved when my hub, Funny Tax Deductions and Weird Tax Write Offs, hit the big 100 for a day. The Hubscore code must have something to do with the timeliness and popularity of the article. But the hub never showed up on the Hot list or the Best list. Then I looked at my stats and realized that no one had viewed the article that day. In fact, I had about seven views all week!

Maybe it was the comments. No, that hub had a grand total of fourteen comments (seven of them were mine in response to reader comments!). The next day it plummeted to 95. O.k., get out the slide rule (haha…bet most of you don’t even know what that is!) and recalculate.


100 Proof!

Proof of 100 Author Score. Sceen shot.
Proof of 100 Author Score. Sceen shot. | Source

Perhaps an abacus would help?

Perhaps we can decipher HubScores with an abacus?
Perhaps we can decipher HubScores with an abacus? | Source

Do Reader Views Determine Author or Hub Score?

I was certain that I had deciphered the Hubscore Code when my Hubber (Author) score hit 100. That must mean that people like my articles. I take a quick look at the stats to see how much my reader views are rising.

Nooooooo… my stats show all blue down arrows. My hubs didn’t make the Hot list or the Best list or any list at all. Two days later, my elusive and mysterious Hubber score dropped like a rock to 95. Throw out the slide rule.

Well, maybe an increase in individual views boosts Hub Scores. I'm excited to see my 10 Ways to Pamper Your Cat hub hovering at 99 and 100. Admittedly, it's had some great days, but today when the score when up, there were only with 5 views!

Calculating Hub Scores must require an abacus!

Maybe breaking the Hub Code requires some expert manipulation on an abacus. I think I have one around here somewhere...

Ten Things that really do help Hub Rankings

  • Good content
  • Good grammar
  • Good spelling
  • Good graphics and photos
  • Polls and Quizzes
  • Good SEO Titles
  • Relevant tags
  • Maps
  • Tables
  • Assorted mysterious factors




Does Hub of the Day Help Hub Scores?

Ahhh… perhaps it takes a Hub of the Day to crack the Hubscore Code! But getting the Hub of the Day for my Groundhog Day hub, 10 Ways to Celebrate Groundhog Day, and the Outdoor Activities for Kids and Grandparents hub made my scores jump up and down – a lot like my reader views. The way to a great Hubscore must be through recognition by HubPages for good articles!

But, it was not so. My Hubscores hovered in the 90s as did my Author score. Where was the elusive 100?

New Calculations...

So I just laid low for a while nursing my reams of calculations. What’s this? I noticed that if I didn’t publish anything for a week, my author score went up.

Huh?

O.k. recalculate: ((HSC x VPD x CPH) * 7) /2C=HC-P. To the Nth power. So I didn’t publish for a week or so. Author score and Hub views went up and down. That was fun.

Comments, Followers, Questions, Forums...

All of these other factors must enter into the Hub Score calculations because Hubbers who regularly participate in HubPages community activities seem to get noticed. How much does it count? That's another unsolved mystery...


What Does Help Your HubPages Rankings?

What do you think is the most important factor for high ranking hubs and author score

  • Good content
  • Hub Hopping
  • Number of followers
  • Number of views per day
  • Good writing
  • High Google ranking
  • Number of hubs published
  • All of the above
  • It's an Unsolved Mystery to me
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Does Hub Hopping Help Hub Scores?

It must have something to do with Hub Hopping. I observed that when I took part in Hub Hopping and voted on newly published hubs my Author Score went up. One fateful day, I hopped over five low quality hubs that I flagged. My author score floated up to 99.

Wait a minute! How does that compute? Do I have to be an ogre to get a good author score? But the next day brought a new batch of hubs to Hub Hop. I skipped through them and found neither low, nor high quality hubs. So I didn’t have much to comment about. I blundered through the new hub assessment system on a few hubs and exited the Hub Hopper. My author score dropped a few points.

By now you must be thinking, “This nutcake could spend her time more wisely by writing instead of obsessing about scores!” And you would be right on target!

Conclusion and Sage Advice

You probably thought I’d never get to the conclusion, didn’t you? Well, my conclusion is that the mysterious and elusive HubScore Code cannot be deciphered by mere humans. It will remain a puzzle.

My Advice? Don't worry too much about your scores. Be aware of how to use good keywords, proofread your work and learn from the Learning Center's experienced writers. Do your best to be an active and valuable community member by making incisive comments, participating in evaluating new hubs, joining in the HubPages community and, of course, writing the best articles possible!

Keep on Hubbing, Hubbers!

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© copyright 2012 by Stephanie Henkel


Hubbers who have solved the mystery

Now there are some Hubbers who seem to have solved the mystery of Hub Scores. Perhaps they'll share their secret in the comments below...


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TToombs08 4 years ago from Somewhere between Heaven and Hell without a road map.

I had to stop obsessing over scores. Yesterday, my authorscore was 93, today it's a whopping 88 and I haven't done anything differently. So, I give up. :) I'm just focusing on quality writing and all that stuff. :) Great hub, Stephanie!


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carol7777 4 years ago from Arizona

I was so glad to see a hub written on this subject. I have wondered about this..My author score goes from 86 to 92...My hubs that are doing fairly well have low scores. Trying to figure it out. Still not sure, but then again...


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Napetv - You are probably correct that our scores are a little delayed. Overall Hub health is very important, but our reputations as authors and members of the HubPages community also seems to enter into the equation.


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

TToombs08 - There are so many excellent articles on how to write good Hubs, and quite a few that discuss hub scores. Unfortunately, there are no cut-and-dried answers, and we can make ourselves crazy by over-thinking about it. While I'm interested in my scores, I also gave up worrying about them. It's a good plan for mental health! :) Thanks Terry!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Carol7777 - As you can see, every time I think I have the answer, something comes along to make me question it. We all do the best that we can...


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moonlake 4 years ago from America

I had a hub that has been up and down hit 100 been on the hot list with only 35 views. Yesterday it had 102 views and dropped to 89. Go figure? I have no idea what is going on half the time. I don't know the answers. I have hub hopped and flaged a few hubs that had nothing on them and saw my profile score go down. I thought maybe I should just stay off the hub hopper. Maybe I should just sit in a corner and not do a thing on hubpages.

I enjoyed reading your hub. Voted uP!


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Janine Huldie 4 years ago from New York, New York

I too have no clue how they calculate the Hub Score and glad I am not alone in this. Reading your article at least I know that it is not just me that an't figure this out. Have of course voted and shared too!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Moonlake - Haha...its good to know that others have been as flummoxed as I have by the fluctuating scores! I don't think that sitting in a corner is the answer ('cause we'd miss you!), but sometimes taking a needed break doesn't seem to hurt all that much. Don't make it too long, though! Thanks so much for your comments and votes!


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carter06 4 years ago from Cronulla NSW

Thanks for writing this Stephanie...I was wondering how it worked as I have noticed mine fluctuate a little... but hadn't been too concerned...now I still don't know:) and I'm still not too concerned:) but your article was a really enjoyable read...Voted UAI & shared...cheers


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nanderson500 4 years ago from Seattle, WA

This was a fascinating hub. I too have wondered about hub score and author score fluctuations. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to them. Voted up and shared.


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Happyboomernurse 4 years ago from South Carolina

You had me laughing with this witty hub, especially when you wrote about the mathmatical calculations and the old fashioned slide rule!

I gave up long ago trying to figure out what spikes the author code or hub code to a perfect hundred. Surely, it's all the things you put in the Hub Rankings box, but it's the "Assorted mysterious factors" that make the code impossible to crack! LOL

Voted up across the board. This hub was a delight.


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GoGreenTips 4 years ago from Indianapolis

Good hub humorous and enjoyable to read!I've noticed the same thing about hopping and commenting. I usually don;t read a lot of hubs except on my days off. It is then that it goes up.


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Jenn-Anne 4 years ago

LOVE this hub! I concluded awhile back that there's no point in fussing too much over the scores. It is better to focus on quality content and on being a good hubpages participant and just let the scores do what they do. Voted up!


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Faith Reaper 4 years ago from southern USA

Love this, and I am glad I am not the only one, as who knows really? One night I thought it was the more words a hub contained, the higher the score, as it was not even published yet and it outranked a lot of published hubs. LOL So, I thought that is the key! Then when I publish two or three in a row, it went down and then after a day went back up. So, I think you have drawn a great conclusion here, as it just must be a combination, but whether one does it all or one does nothing, it seems to have its own way of scoring high or dropping a few points, for reasons unknown. Great hub. In His Love, Faith Reaper


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Jackie Lynnley 4 years ago from The Beautiful South

I have actually watched hubbers that sometimes go dormant after publishing a hub and their score will go really high and stay there, doing nothing. This lead me to relax and take a few days off! Feels pretty good. We can only give our best and let it go. Thanks for the hub.


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NateB11 4 years ago from California, United States of America

I admit, I've wondered how the scores are calculated, and it's fun to speculate. But you're right, writing and participating in the community are the important things. Had fun reading this one!


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epigramman 4 years ago

...Take a look at my numbers Stephanie - in both followers and hubs - lol - and last week I dipped down to 89 - lol - and barely ever get past 94 - I have made not one penny here in 2 years and I am probably one of the most famous unpublished writer/poets (literally) in the entire world - lol - and I don't give one hoot in heck about silly hub scores - in fact I want to be a maverick and continue to score 89 - lol

Now if I were making money and it depended on a higher hub score -well now that would be a different story .....

sending you warm wishes and good energy from lake erie time ontario canada 11:29pm


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Jackie Lynnley - You're absolutely right...we must give it our best shot, then move on! Thanks for the comment and encouragement!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Janine Huldie - Well, it's good to know I'm not alone! :) I do think that comments, shares and support of other hubbers helps, though. Thanks so much for yours!!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Hi Gail, I'm glad you got a laugh out of this...sometimes when we just can't wrap our brains around a puzzle like this, the best solution is to have a good laugh over it!

I'll bet you might even remember using that old slide rule, too! I looked for mine from my high school trig class, but it seems to have disappeared. I know it would have helped here. :)

Thanks so much for stopping by!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Carter06 - What? You mean you haven't figured it out??? But I'm glad you enjoyed the article. Thanks for the comments and shares! Keep on hubbing! :)


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Faith Reaper - You've hit the nail on the head...the hubs take on a life of their own that seem to have little to do with what we are doing or not doing...or at least not too much that we can pinpoint. So, do the best we can, be active in the HP community and hope for the best! :) Thanks for stopping in to comment!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Jenn-Anne - You've got it - spending our energy on good writing is the most sensible solution! Thanks for your comments!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

GoGreenTips - I do like to Hub Hop now and then, and enjoy commenting when I have time. I believe it does have some effect on our scores - combined with many other factors. Do keep commenting, and thank you for leaving one here!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Nanderson500 - Hmmm...no rhyme or reason? Sounds like a poetry hub to me... :)

The fluctuations still mystify me, but I really don't spend a lot of time obsessing about it. Thanks for commenting, voting and sharing!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

NateB11 - it is fun to speculate, and several times, I though I had it figured out...I was wrong! :) Glad you enjoyed the hub on the elusive hub score!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Epigramman - I know... I, too, am shocked that fortune hasn't gone hand-in-hand with your fame! We all write for different reasons...a few bucks would definitely come in handy, but I think many of us here continue on just because we love the community!

I don't have a clue how much if any our hub scores relate to money earned. Now there's something that should be analyzed if it hasn't been already. Warm wishes back to you - thanks for the visit!


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mperrottet 4 years ago from Pennsauken, NJ

Great hub, Stephanie, and fun to read. I wish they'd tell us what in the world these numbers are calculated on, but I guess it's like Google - if you knew the algorithm you'd try to play the system. It's probably best not to pay much attention, but I just can't help it - when I see my numbers dropping, I start frantically generating hub activity in hopes of it coming up again. I'm worse than Pavlov's dog. Voted up and funny.


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

mperrottet - You're probably right, if we knew the algorithm, we'd be even more worried about playing the system. It's probably best not to pay that much heed to the whole thing. I love your comment as I envision a cute, long-eared dog typing away on his laptop making comments and hub hopping...


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GiblinGirl 4 years ago from New Jersey

Very humorous article on a certainly puzzling mystery. I've definitely wondered about it and have tried to figure out what makes my score rise a few points on a random day only to drop back down on another.


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

GiblinGirl - It's certainly an unsolved mystery! But isn't it a lovely surprise when we look at our scores and realize they are shooting up unexpectedly? (I try not to feel bad when they go the other way...)


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kashmir56 4 years ago from Massachusetts

Great humorous hub but still it remains unsolved why our scores go up and down so much. I have reached has high as 98 and then went back down to 93????? Another case for the show unsolved mysteries .

Vote up and more !!!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Kashmir56 - Gosh, if we could get on the show, Unsolved Mysteries, I'm sure it would be good for our ratings! :) Thanks for your comments and votes!


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DeborahNeyens 4 years ago from Iowa

I also have noticed that Author Score tends to go up when I'm relatively inactive for a few days. Almost like Hubpages is trying to lure me back with a good score. Could it be? Thanks for sharing your theories. : )


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

DeborahNeyens - Haha...that's an interesting thought! and here I thought they were rewarding me for staying away... :)


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JayeWisdom 4 years ago from Deep South, USA

Hi, Stephanie....I've given up trying to decode that mysterious score. None of my hubs have hit the magic 100 (even though one is nearing 50,000 reads), and my author score hit 100 so briefly that I didn't have the foresight to photograph it, thinking it would be there a while. No such luck...or skill...or whatever.

Interesting hub. Up++

Jaye


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

JayeWisdom - Wow, 50,000 views! That's impressive! I've also noticed that my most popular hubs aren't usually those with the highest hub scores. Go figure... Thanks for the read and for your comments!


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JayeWisdom 4 years ago from Deep South, USA

Oops! I goofed with my number, Steph, and it's embarrassing to correct it, but I must. I looked at the wrong line! I only have 42 published hubs, and ALL of them have a total of 52,449 views as of today (some less than 100 each), with my "busiest" hub garnering nearly half of the total--26,895. It does have my highest hub score, but that hasn't made it out of the 90s yet. That's still not too shabby, but the hub with the next highest number of views is only 4,155. Sorry I misled you, but it was unintentional. Jaye


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

JayeWisdom - I think that over 26,000 views for one hub is very impressive! As I said, I don't really understand why these top performers do not also get the top hub scores... But you are doing something right if you are getting that much traffic! :)


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JayeWisdom 4 years ago from Deep South, USA

Steph...I just checked my stats, and my most-trafficked hub is past the 27,500 mark and has my FIRST hub score of 100!!! I'd better yell "Hooray!" because it may not last, but it's a thrill to see those three digits today, anyway.

Jaye


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Congratulations, Jaye!


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Sharyn's Slant 4 years ago from Northeast Ohio USA

Oh gosh, I read that wrong. I thought it said SOLVED mysteries of the hub score code. Darn it! I have wasted way too much time worrying about it for going on two years now, I admit. I do like all potential theories. I appreciate this Stephanie because I definitely do not feel alone, thanks!!!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Sharyn's Slant - We probably all waste too much time worrying about our scores. You are definitely not alone! :)


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO

I don't really think anyone even knows what the true answer is - not even hub staffers:) lol I notice my score goes up when I stay away from hub for a few days when I am super busy or something like that. I think it's a message that maybe means, "quit while you're ahead,"...ahahaha

Fun read and I guess only the shadow knows:)


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

RealHousewife - "Quit while you're ahead." You may have nailed it! :)

Oh, my gosh, Kelly, I thought I was the only one old enough to get, "...only the Shadow knows..."


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JayeWisdom 4 years ago from Deep South, USA

Stephanie.....I once again hit the overall 100 score on my profile picture-- today. This time I had enough foresight to take a digital picture of the "100" on my avatar...just in case I never see it there again. Okay...I'll quit pestering you now!

Jaye


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heartexpressions 4 years ago

Thanks for this great hub, I was wondering what the secret code was?


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Heartexpressions - Yes, we're all wondering the same. The Hub Score code is an unsolved mystery! :)


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JayeWisdom 4 years ago from Deep South, USA

My overall score is back to 98 today even though I've published two new hubs and traffic to many of my existing hubs has increased. You're right, Stephanie....the hub score is truly a mystery! Jaye


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Sally's Trove 4 years ago from Southeastern Pennsylvania

Love the idea of using the abacus. It doesn't get nearly the attention it deserves, plus it's kind of pretty. And who knows...the Hub score code just might be embedded in its beads, after all. :) Laughed my way through this one! Up and funny.


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Alecia Murphy 4 years ago from Wilmington, North Carolina

You had me at the title! That show used to scare the living daylights out of me, but I agree it's a mystery. It seems to me that being conscious of what you put out and the quality of it seems to help more than anything. Great advice :)


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Sally's Trove - I'm thinking of getting an abacus... Glad this gave you a laugh! Thanks for your comments!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Alecia Murphy - I never watched the show...I prefer mysteries to be solved! Quality is all-important...if we have that, we're on the right track! :)


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Jools99 4 years ago from North-East UK

Stephanie, Interesting hub - I've given up wondering about it now. I have never had one hub hit 100 (closest I came was a 96) but I have had an author score of 100 several times with NO reason for it. Within the last week I got to 100 and that was after not really being on HP for about a week due to decorating my living room so I'm at a loss what the 'magic formula' is.


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Jools99 - Congratulations on your Author score of 100! I really could never understand how one could hit the 100 author score and not get at least one 100 on a hub score. The mystery remains unsolved...


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mary615 4 years ago from Florida

I made an author score ONE time. I quickly did a screen shot of it cause I figured I'd never see it again. I have it on my desktop to remind me it can be done. I love your Poll. No one understand it, either. I just don't worry about it anymore, although I used to.

I voted this Hub UP, and will share.


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Mary615 - I've had the elusive 100 a few times, but it's never lasted very long. Like you, I took a screen shot to prove to myself that it could be done! :)


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Bob Bamberg 4 years ago from Southeastern Massachusetts

Hi Stephanie,

Loved the hub! Since I haven't a clue as to what the numbers mean, and no one else could explain them, I've just disregarded them from the outset. I've only been here for 7 weeks so I have low expectations until I become somewhat of a veteran. Then maybe I'll be more curious about the scores.

I just concentrate on trying to write good hubs, blending science, common sense and humor; and to write them so they're interesting, useful, and sometimes funny.

I let the comments my hubs generate be my scorekeepers. If no one is yelling at me, I guess I'm doing OK. If I get some raves, I give myself an attaboy.

Every so often HubPages pins an accolade on my home page and that lets me know I'm doing something right.

But, I really enjoy this community. I've made a number of cyberfriends, from all over the world, in the short time I've been here. That's pretty exciting.

Thanks for the reassuring hub (at least it confirms that I'm not alone). Voted Up, useful, interesting and funny. Regards, Bob.


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Bob Bamberg - Well Bob, it sounds like you have your own formula for success! When you write hubs that people want to read,and participate in the community, you're certainly heading in the right direction! Thanks so much for your interesting comments!


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wheelinallover 4 years ago from Central United States

In the end the only thing that matters is the quality of your content. If you have written to searched keywords half the battle is won.

The question you have to ask yourself is why do you write? If you enjoy it hub score doesn't matter. Quality content if the search engines can find it is worth more than all the hub score and hubber score in the world.

Readers from search engines have no clue what the score means. This is one of the reasons I believe hubs which are pulling in visitors on search engines have lower hub scores.

My advice find keyword clusters which are searched and fit your writing style as well as area of expertise. Write hubs people want to read. Don't worry about the rest, just like everything time will put you higher. If it doesn't and your earning it doesn't matter.


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Wheelinallover - As you said, writing hubs that people want to read and bringing them to your articles with good SEO is of top importance. Your observation that readers from search engines don't know what hub score means is true. I never thought about that fact being related to lower hub scores, but it makes sense. Thank you so much for your very insightful comment! It certainly helps put the whole matter of scores into perspective!


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carter06 4 years ago from Cronulla NSW

I came back to comment Steph, because last night I opened my profile and to my pleasant surprise found my hub score had for the first time reached the allusive 100 mark!! Not much had changed this week, no new hub, just reading and commenting on others work...I am a baffled but cheerfully so...No formula from this girl:)


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Congratulations, Carter06! Obviously you are doing something right -- probably have been right along! :)


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Trinity M 4 years ago

I think this might be one for those CSI guys… or maybe Sherlock Holmes?? Great hub; put a smile on my face. :)


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Trinity M - I wonder if Sherlock would thing the answer is elementary? :)


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DzyMsLizzy 4 years ago from Oakley, CA

Very interesting speculations, indeed. You are probably all correct and at the same time, all wrong. It's that convoluted of a mystery!

I fail to see why HP makes such a big deal out of "quizzes and polls." Are they counted toward our score simply because they exist? I get very little reader participation when I include those elements....very little...lucky to have 2 people vote. That surely cannot count for much.

I do think there is a serious time lag, as well. I was looking at the Hub Stats graph (now appearing at the top of our list of hubs), and found that it is current only through the end of JULY!!! And here it is, nearly the middle of September!! WTH??

One thing I have noticed, however, (and I say this in a whisper, lest anyone in charge should notice...) Once I hit that magical "100" hubber score....it no longer seems to matter if I publish every day, or every 4 days...or not at all for a week and a half--that score will fluctuate up and down, but having once hit that 100, I've not seen it drop below 95....And this seems also unrelated to comments. Most of the time, I don't get very many comments, and sometimes go days without any. So scratch THAT theory as counting toward scores....

I voted for "it's an unsolved mystery"...but I'm voting your hub up++


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

DzyMsLizzy - I have not seen great participation in polls even in hubs that have had a great number of views. I still put in polls, but seldom spend time making up a quiz as they take a lot longer to create. As for comments, I think that someone else pointed out that our fellow hubbers are most likely to make comments, and HubPages ranks outside traffic more highly than internal traffic. I guess we'll just continue to be puzzled by it all...


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pstraubie48 4 years ago from sunny Florida

I am so glad you concluded the way you did. I have no idea either. And I think it may remain on the great unsolved mysteries of all times. It is always fun to theorize, isn't it? I enjoyed reading this and just knew the mystery was about to be solved but now that it isn't, I am kind of glad. What would we try to figure out if it is solved???


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

pstraubie48 - I'm always interested in the different theories of why hub scores go up and down, and while many articles have been written about it, no one seems to have the definitive answer. Ahhh...a little mystery in life keeps us on our toes, doesn't it? :)


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CassyLu1981 4 years ago from Spring Lake, NC

Ya know, I've often thought about this. My hub score has always been in the low 90s ever since I started writing. I guess I did something right to keep it up there but this give me a little more insite on why it was so high. I've never had a hub of the day (still trying to reach that goal) but I do a lot of hub hopping and commenting and such on other peoples hubs (when I have the time). Very interesting :) Voted up and shared!!!!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

CassyLu1981 - If your score is in the 90s, HubPages must like you. You must be doing something right! Thanks for stopping in to comment and vote, and thanks for the Share!


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tobint44 4 years ago from North Carolina

Thanks for the great hub. At first I had no understanding of the hub score. Your article has enlightened me, but seemingly still left me in mystery (like everyone else it seems.) Thanks for helping break down the concept to new hubbers like myself.


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Tobin44 - I'm glad that you found my hub helpful. As you can see, there are many factors that influence our hub scores, but no one has pinned down the exact formula. Just keep writing good content and join in the HubPages community! Thanks for stopping in to read and comment!


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Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

Hi stephanie, yep me too! lol! I get so confused by the whole thing I have got to the stage of just ignoring it now! I think its time to get back to the da vinci code maybe we missed something! lol!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Nell Rose - Haha...yep, the secrets are still hidden! :) We'll just go on our merry way without solving the mystery of the hub score code!


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Sunshine625 4 years ago from Orlando, FL

Congrats on your 100 HubScore! Well deserved! :)


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rcrumple 4 years ago from Kentucky

You've just answered the age old question.... there is no answer! Great Job! Really enjoyed it!


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Thanks, Sunshine! :) Now if I could only figure out what I did right, I'd just go ahead and do it again! :)


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Rcrumple - That's the thing with age-old questions...we keep trying to answer them, but never settle on the definitive answer... Thanks for stopping in! :)


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JayeWisdom 4 years ago from Deep South, USA

Elusive? Mysterious? Impossible to understand? YES! During the past two days I published two more hubs, answered a couple of questions, got involved in forums. Yet my 100 score (that lasted two days) suddenly dropped to 97 today, then lower still to 93, the lowest it's been in ages! What did I do wrong???

Stephanie, if you ever figure the Hub score out, please let me know....Jaye


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

Jaye, I'm still unraveling the mystery! LOL


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cam8510 4 years ago from Columbus, Georgia until the end of November 2016.

All I can add is what is important to me and that is good content, well written and good use of keywords. That really covers what I want out of writing. I want to express myself in the best way possible and have people enjoy reading it. Very strong hub. Thanks.


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA Author

cam8510 - I think if you stick to what is important to you, you'll do just fine! Thanks for your input!


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mary615 3 years ago from Florida

I read this one before, but was curious to see if anyone had figured out the answers by now: NOPE! Let's face it....we never will. I've read that if you participate in the forums, it helps your score, but I don't go there, or at least I don't make any comments. I enjoy reading the posts. I don't like my comments being shared on my profile page, so that's another reason I won't "say" anything.

I once had a 100 author score. I was so excited that I took a screen short and put it on my desktop to remind me that it can be done.

I voted this UP, and it's time to share this again.


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Stephanie Henkel 3 years ago from USA Author

Mary615 - No, I don't think that anyone has a definitive answer to the questions about how Hubscores and author scores are calculated. There are things that affect them, but that much sought-after 100 seems to be elusive, and sometimes appears or disappears for unknown reasons. Thanks for coming by to read again and to share!


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Denise Handlon 3 years ago from North Carolina

Stephanie, I enjoyed reading this because it made me chuckle. I liked your scientific approach to this subject. I have been quite dismayed over my hub score. For the past month it has been in the 80's. I've NEVER had it drop below 90 even as a newbie. I felt mortified when I first saw it and immediately began to worry about it. In fact, I even emailed some of the team who assured me it had nothing to do with the level of my writing or content.

My views have been up; my 'pay' has increased; but, no matter what I seem to do I cannot get that darned score back into the 90's. At first I thought it was because I had not participated as often, since I went back to work. However, I noticed several other nonparticipants whose score remained in the 90's. Go figure!

It remains a mystery that I will never hope to figure out. While I am still not in agreement with my 80's score, since I personally equate it to writing ability, I've since learned to let it go. What else can I do? There are so many more important things in life to be concerned about. It certainly is no reflection on who I am as a person; what I do in my daily life; or how I love my family, etc.

So...UP/F/I with your hub and let the mystery remain...


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Stephanie Henkel 3 years ago from USA Author

Hi Denise, Oh, my, I feel your confusion! I still haven't figured out the whole thing. My score goes up when I haven't done anything, down when I publish and sideways just for the heck of it!

Honestly, it seems to change more often when I answer questions or hub hop than when I publish something new. I think you're wise just letting it go and going on with your life! Thanks for popping by to read and for your analysis!


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Denise Handlon 3 years ago from North Carolina

Ha ha ha, your response makes me chuckle out loud! Here I am sitting in the Starbuck's in Roanoke Rapids after a doctor's app't. Besides the staff being as noisy as my psychiatric unit it's a nice change of pace from home.

We'll have to plan a get together as soon as this darned cold moves out and warm weather is FINALLY here!


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Stephanie Henkel 3 years ago from USA Author

Hi Denise, I'd love to get together soon and commiserate about our mysterious hub scores! Let me know when you're free...


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suziecat7 3 years ago from Asheville, NC

Enjoyed this Hub and all the comments. At least I don't feel so alone. My most popular Hub that scored in the upper 90's for years is now at 78. I give up. Thanks for writing this.


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Stephanie Henkel 3 years ago from USA Author

Suziecat7- It seems that there's no way to decipher what causes the ups and downs. All we can do is our best. Thanks for stopping in to comment!


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Barbara Kay 3 years ago from USA

Now they've changed how they determine them. From what I can see it helps to be active in commenting and having high hub scores. Who knows?

Mine at dipped down to 87 and now is back up to 95. I started being more active reading other people's hubs. Comments in the forums don't seem to count or for very little, because I was always active there. I haven't written any new hubs, so that didn't account for the higher score.


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Stephanie Henkel 3 years ago from USA Author

Barbara Kay - Commenting and answering questions does seem to help,but who really knows? While it's always nice to see a high score, I'm not sure how much it actually helps us. It's definitely still a mystery! :)


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ShyeAnne 3 years ago from Deep Bay, British Columbia, Canada

hahaha! I don't even try to figure this out anymore ! Good read.


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knowledgesharing 2 years ago from Glasgow, KY

Great article. I am relatively new to HubPages and your comments and information were quite illuminating.


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Stephanie Henkel 2 years ago from USA Author

Knowledgesharing - Welcome to Hubpages! As you can see, the HubPages scoring is still somewhat of a mystery to many of us! Glad you enjoyed the article. Thanks for visiting and commenting!


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aesta1 2 years ago from Ontario, Canada

Maybe, this is meant to be a mystery. It still bothers me because it is right there attached to my name...sort of a judgment of who I am. Good of you to post your own discovery.


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Stephanie Henkel 2 years ago from USA Author

aesta1 - It does seem judgmental, but don't take it too seriously!


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Jeannieinabottle 20 months ago from Baltimore, MD

I think someone must have gotten close to cracking the code. That is why they recently changed the algorithm again... I guess we are starting from scratch trying to figure it all out.


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Stephanie Henkel 20 months ago from USA Author

Jeannieinabottle - I've noticed that, too. Oh, well, it keeps life interesting!


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FatBoyThin 17 months ago from Kinneff, Scotland

I think it's a combination of lots of things, together with a little bit of magick! Great Hub, voted up.


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gerimcclym 11 months ago from Colorado

A thoughtful and hilarious article.


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AmberLockheart 8 months ago

It is everyone's guess. I'm not sure if the moderators even know what the hub score is.

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