What Bothers You About HubPages?

Is it the censors? Is the automated mechanism that scans your article, which is original or near that and then tells you it is too similar to another one and you need to edit it? Is it a photo that the Hubpage Gods declare as indecent or too explicit? Is it not knowing why the scores fluctuate wildly at times by 10 or more points? Is it because there is no real way to know how you earn the money you do, and why it cannot be more? Is it because many of the "Hub of the Day" seem totally meaningless? Is it because you wonder how much the owners of Hubpages earn from your writings? Wouldn't it be interesting to find out the inside details?

As a writer for Hubpages for over two years, all of these questions have crossed my mind. Of course, the owners of Hubpages may tell you some details but certainly not what they earn from the website and writings of thousands or millions. How many are actually writing on Hubpages?

Being censored for a photo most would consider not offensive is irritating, it makes you wonder just how conservative the censors are, much like China. The same goes for writing an article that is 90% original and published it. Then, days later, despite many responding to it, the automated message arrives telling you need to edit it to republish it. Wouldn't it be nice for Hubpages to provide details about what triggers their censors to call an article that was copied from another site? Is it a secret? Is this something they do not want its writers to know? Why? But it is odd that none of the photos on Hubpages go through the process of copyright infringement. They seem to be overly concerned about the written material than images. Almost every image on Hubpages is probably not the original. No doubt, many are copyrighted.

I am sure their automated program scans for links or data residue of some sort, if material was copied. But, it is not 100% correct. Writing historical related articles is difficult-one can only spin the history and facts in so many ways and sometimes, it will seem to be similar to something already in print. This is where the problem is for Hubpages automated detection. But what happens if you publish on Hubpages first and then copy and paste into Wizzle or Bukisa? Will the Hubpages detection software detect it and then send you a message that you have copied your own article from another site? Why should that be an issue anyway? It is your original. If so, it is stupid. Why shouldn't an original article be on multiple sites?

Of course, the good about it is that it is easy to use. Other similar websites like wizzle or bukisa have their own censors also, but their systems are much less known and often cumbersome in some manner. Bukisa seems to be more lenient with material. WordPress is lenient. So, I guess the question is, if so many similar websites are not worried about copyright infringement, why is Hubpages so paranoid?

I guess, lawsuit.


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peoplepower73 4 years ago from Placentia California

Great article. I've been with hub pages for 6 months now and I've had some of those same thoughts.It is very difficult to present facts without them saying it's a duplicate. Like you said there is only so many ways you can spin the facts. I read in one of the forums that you can't have more than two links to the same domain. It will be flagged as duplicate. It may be they are afraid of of having competing advertisers when there is duplication. It sure would be nice to know what site has caused the duplication. Thanks for the hub, voting up, interesting and sharing.


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perrya 4 years ago Author

Thanks, maybe the Gods will provide us the answers!


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addingsense 4 years ago from kerala

@peolpepower73 : ya, you are right about that fact


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RunAbstract 4 years ago from USA

You have voiced things I have wondered about for along time! However you wrote it much nicer than I might have.

Great Hub! Voted up and more!


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janiek13 4 years ago from Florida's Space Coast

Yes, I have wondered about many things, I tread lightly because I don't want to be banned from Hubpages for an inadvertent mistake.


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perrya 4 years ago Author

Why would they ban me? it is original, there are no foul words to censor. many are wondering the same things, it was constructive criticism with valid questions and points being raised. If this becomes unpublished, you will no longer see it and then we will know.

I like hubpages, as I said, but it is not perfect.


Website Examiner 4 years ago

Excuse me, but there seems to be some confusion here about the difference between "duplicate content" and "copyrighted content." The rules against duplicate content has nothing to do with copyright, it is a matter of having a good standing with Google. HubPages only responds to copyright infringements if it receives a DMCA complaint, which is the way it works for all websites. And that pertains to images as well. They don't mind duplicate images because Google does not mind. They do however mind infringing images if and when they receive a DMCA complaint, and they will take such images down.


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perrya 4 years ago Author

Your excuse is accepted. How would any of the hubbers know these details about how Google controls net content. Not common knowledge. Why does Hubpages care about google?


Website Examiner 4 years ago

Thank you. HubPages cares about Google because it affects how the site is ranked in the search results. Poor ranking means the contents will be less visible, meaning less traffic and income for the site and individual Hubbers.


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perrya 4 years ago Author

OK, makes sense. Still, the duplication issue is not always 100% accurate, so this message one gets requiring it to edited before republishing is from Google, not hubpages? I know images are looked at by hubpage Gods.


Website Examiner 4 years ago

The message is not from Google. It is from HubPages. But duplicate content was tolerated by HubPages until new Google policies (Panda) made HubPages change their rules.


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perrya 4 years ago Author

What other insights can you share with readers that are mentioned in various questions?


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peoplepower73 4 years ago from Placentia California

Website Examiner: I published an article about Obama's accomplishments in the last three years and it was flagged for duplicate content. They are mainly facts. So how does one publish facts that can be found all over the internet that are in the public domain? I re-wrote it but again it was flagged for duplicate content. There are only so many ways that facts can be re-written. So I deleted it. It seems that the moderators are leaving it up to us to determine where the duplication is. It would be helpful if they could be more specific, because it becomes a guessing game as to what the monitors are sensing as duplication.

I see hubs about reviews of high tech products that contain specifications that are also all over the internet. Why are they not flagged as duplicate material?


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perrya 4 years ago Author

I feel the pain. You ask them, where specifically is the duplicate is in the article, yet, the only reply is the automated one, which is too general. Just because it was flagged does not mean the entire thing is, it could only be a few things. It seems that if you publish on hubpages first, then, publish the same article on another site later, you still may get this even though you are the author and its original.


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addingsense 4 years ago from kerala

hubpages is well known for the worst plagiaristic sensor


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perrya 4 years ago Author

Another question is this: how much does Hubpages make from your material you post? well, it may vary with the amount you make in a month, but if you earned $115.00 in a month, Hubpages will only send you $90 because $25 is theirs.


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addingsense 4 years ago from kerala

are they earning 5%?


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perrya 4 years ago Author

I tend to think it is a variable rate, not sure though.


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peoplepower73 4 years ago from Placentia California

What about all the hubs that are published about How to Earn Money on Hub Pages? There are only so many ways that information can be presented before it becomes duplicated. But yet, I see those hubs published almost daily with basically the same content. I don't understand their critera for duplication. This just cries out for a forum. Maybe I'll start one. Thanks again for this hub. Voting Up, Useful, and sharing.


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perrya 4 years ago Author

well, we'll see. I just completed an experiment to see how the detection works. One article, which was original, was said to be copied. So i tried some things. Hubpages is the easiest and more versatile to use compared to Wizzle or Bukisa. I find it hard to believe anyone making $1500 a month solely from this.


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mistyhorizon2003 4 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands)

40% of the time Hubpages earns from the Ads on your pages, 60% of the time you do. It is 'pot luck' as to who gets the best end of the deal at any one time because the hours of the day the 60/40 split takes place is also random. I believe there is a way you can independently verify the time split if you use Google Analytics, but don't ask me exactly how this is achieved as I don't bother to check personally.


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addingsense 4 years ago from kerala

what if contact the team?


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scooterport 4 years ago from Summerville, Georgia

Great hub perrya. You have over 1300 hubs. How many times would you say that hubpages has flagged your hubs? How many would you say that you've just given up on because they kept pulling it?


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perrya 4 years ago Author

Not a lot, but the ones flagged, I reworked it, changed things up. It passes. Look, pop music copies bits from songs all the time, as long as you add originality to it, it should pass. Directly copy and pasting from another site may work only if its small bits, never paragraphs. Many sites leave an invisible tag when copied, that unless deleted, makes it obvious.

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