What makes a good Hub? Can we have some more engagement please?

HubPage veterans should know

By now some of the old-timers and seasoned veteran Hubbers should know what makes a good Hub but for the newbies it must be a real struggle with which I can fully sympathise! For team Hubpages are having enough problems themselves trying to get this website to how it once was so surely we shouldn't be too hard on them?

American cash is what we are hoping to make!
American cash is what we are hoping to make! | Source

Engagement - what does this mean?

Time and time again my Hubs have been unfeatured because they no longer have the engagement factor needed. What this means is that you need your viewers (if you can hopefully get any) engaging with the context of your Hub. You need comments, Likes, people responding to polls.

So add a poll. Ask some simple questions about the subject of your Hub. Don’t be afraid to get the ball rolling by answering this yourself. Just remember you need that engagement and without it the HubPage ‘Powers-that-Be’ will find fault with what you posted. It needs to get the public reacting and contributing!

Quality

Quality is another very important factor of making a good Hub and not a mediocre one that deserves to be unfeatured and unpublished. After all, the poor quality Hubs are pulling the entire site down. Google is not happy with poor quality and we all need to keep in its good books, as does HubPages. This is what the Panda Update was created for. Google wants the best quality websites ranking high in search results. No spammy rubbish or copied and pasted advertising blurbs, no articles in Pigeon English please!

Quality is not defined by the amount of hours you spent researching or writing. Quality is not what you would need to pass an exam at University. Quality is defined by whether it gets the high traffic or fails miserably. After all what advertiser wants their ads posted alongside an article that nobody reads?

Word Count

You have no doubt heard it said that you need to post a lot of words. No 400 characters like at Bubblews here. At HubPages don’t even bother posting a new Hub unless it has around 800 or more words. Think again about the quality. Who wants to read some short quickly written waffle? That’s right, no one, even if it may appear the other way at Bubblews.

You see, the sort of people you want reading your Hubs you want to spend time there. If you are very lucky they might just click on the small number of ads and links you are now allowed. That means a win for you and a win for HubPages! It is easy enough to get a lot of words written – I am already up to 580 with this!

Inappropriate content

This is quite simple: we don’t want any swear words, pictures of people without their clothes on or anything encouraging people to do naughty things. This is the World Police State also known as the New World Order so get used to it!

And don’t rock the boat. We want stuff that the mainstream media and science approves. Nothing too outlandish or out of the box, please!

Cover of Lynn Carey Saylor's album cover autographed to me.
Cover of Lynn Carey Saylor's album cover autographed to me. | Source

Photos

Of course you need photos to draw attention to your article, and not just any old photo but the best. However, when I say the best I mean they must be correctly attributed and sourced. No stealing allowed here!

If you haven’t got your own photos I suggest having a look in Wikipedia for Public Domain ones. There is no argument then. And remember this is the New World Order Police State we are living in and everything is controlled and monitored. Taking an image someone else created will simply not be tolerated. You wouldn’t like it if someone stole yours now would you?

Videos

Videos help bring a Hub to life. They create engagement. People watch them! There are thousands on YouTube and if you can’t find some to add to your Hub then you are not going to get anywhere here and are better off with a day job!

Videos have become a very important part of modern culture. So much so that the Buggles had a hit with their song Video Killed The Radio Star.

Buggles - Video killed the radio star 1979

Engagement poll

Have you had a Hub unfeatured because of lack of Engagement?

  • Yes, but I don't know what it means.
  • No, all my Hubs are top quality.
  • Yes, and it makes me very sad!
  • Yes, and I am going to do something about it.
See results without voting

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Polls

Polls are like simple surveys. They ask a question and find out what the public thinks. They help create the all-important engagement. They are very easy to add and very easy to word with a question. You can even choose Yes or No answers.

Maps

Maps are provided like so many wonders by Google. We can find just about any location in the world. Just type in a street name and Google will find it.

This is useful information because your readers may want to visit somewhere they have just been reading about. Maps help create engagement. People can use them and may appreciate this. They may even post a comment thanking you if you are very lucky!

Modules

No one enjoys reading a long block of text so HubPages have given us the ability of breaking our Hubs up into modules. We have text boxes and videos, photos, maps and polls. We need to think about using visual imagery as eye-candy and making our Hubs as pleasing visually as they are otherwise.

Tweaking

Don’t despair if your Hubs have been Unfeatured, or Idled as it was once known, and don’t give up if your best work is Unpublished. Perhaps you do not understand why but those behind HubPages surely know about these matters and are doing what they have to do to try to get this site back to its “Glory Days.”

Tweaking is easy. Just add some new photos or videos, change some words here and there, create a new title. And always remember what you need to do is engage your reader.

Well, that is over 900 words and I am done for now. Good luck and Happy Hubbing!

PS I am going to add copyright by using the HubPages Display Options tool for doing so. HubPages think of everything for us!

© 2013 Steve Andrews

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38 comments

Ericdierker profile image

Ericdierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

Well said.


Bard of Ely profile image

Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you! My first hub in a while!


FitnezzJim profile image

FitnezzJim 3 years ago from Fredericksburg, Virginia

Funny. I am willing to guess that this article is considered a quality Hub by the automated quality checker since it has pictures, maps, polls, and videos and close to a thousand words. Also, I have noted a number of writers adding comments to their articles essentially saying never mind this extra stuff, it is just there to please the automatic quality checker. And, you are getting engagement from other Hubbers!

Well done.


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Ericdierker 3 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

FitnezzJim, I stand before you, no need to waste time and money on a trial. For I am properly convicted of doing this very thing I am trying to find a solution. You be the judge and tell me how to correct this behavior


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, FitnezzJim! But this hub was easy to knock out unlike others I have spent hours on only to find them unfeatured after a short while!


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CJStone 3 years ago from Whitstable, UK

I think HubPages is very nearly dead now Steve and if it wasn't for the notifications arriving in my inbox, I wouldn't ever have heard about this one.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Yes, sad isn't it? This was a quickly rattled off post though just to see how it does!


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Seafarer Mama 3 years ago from New England

Great hub, Bard! Enjoyed reading it, and its tongue-in-cheekness. :0)

It is interesting to note that we are only allowed very few ads. If we are to promote this site as a way to make some income as a writer, there needs to be a real chance to do so. Instead, we are being stripped of that chance by allowing less products to be promoted in Amazon and eBay capsules.

Usually, if a hub is not high on the engagement scales any longer, it is older and all the engagement happened closer to when it was first published. I do my best to drive more traffic to my hubs from my blogs. Hope it works.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Yes, we used to be allowed lots of ads but now that option has gone. I can think of several former high earning hubbers that used to do well because of this but all that changed and they have gone I think! What I don't understand about this is why is Wizzley a site you can post lots of ads but this is not OK here now? Seems very odd but what do I know?


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FitnezzJim 3 years ago from Fredericksburg, Virginia

Eric, I am guilty too, and fairly recently too. There is a down side to all the recommendations on how to make a good Hub. Quite simply, it takes our minds off using the written word to express ourselves. This can be a good thing and a bad thing though. The good is that encourages us to become something more than a writer; it encourages us to think in the terms of the economic value of a mouse-click. With this in mind, we can no longer think of working at a computer as being ‘quiet as a mouse’, but rather we can strive to become more - ‘the mouse that roared’. The bad is that we need to recognize that we are not being promoted by the web-site because of the quality of our writing, but for the number of views and clicks that we receive.

Regarding that money part? If you check the amount of time I’ve been here, and the number of views received, it should be fairly obvious I’m not here for the money. Good writers tend to be good thinkers, and that thoughtfulness often offers an alternative point-of-view. I like good discussion, and I like well expressed alternative viewpoints. That’s why I am here. Also, the thoughtfulness of the writers often shows in the quality of the comments we see here.

Well now see? This Hub has provoked good discussion in the comments, and has return viewers. Surely this must be an indication that it is an engaging Hub.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you FitnezzJim for making some very good points there! I am mainly a writer and thinker so agree with you that I find these sites are not about quality of writing but often seem more about how to use SEO and Internet marketing and how to lay out a page.


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Sharkye11 3 years ago from Oklahoma

Interesting points. I have problems sometimes trying to think of something other than a poll or video to add to certain hubs. Often, tables and maps are pointless, and basically add no value, but we get docked a few points for not adding them. Solution? Only writing hubs based on topics that are suited to the extra features. Which is just a tad bit limiting.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for commenting, Sharkye11! Yes, it isn't that simple is it fitting in tables and maps etc?


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CraftytotheCore 3 years ago

Great Hub! I try to encourage comments by giving back comments to people who visit my hubs. I think it helps all of us in the long run to share our kindness and it keeps the hub momentum going.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for your compliments and comments!


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fivesenses 3 years ago from new delhi

Good tips, i'm new here so some of the stuff really helps.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I am glad you find this useful!


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Barbara Kay 3 years ago from USA

I'm not new here, but I love the way you present it for all the newbies. It has all the useful info they need written in an interesting way.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks, Barbara!


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srsddn 3 years ago from Chandigarh, India

bardofely, It is never too late to learn. Thanks for adding to my knowledge. I hope to improve. Voted up and useful.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your comments and vote!


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savvydating 3 years ago

A great reminder that we have to keep trying to improve our articles. Hubpages has given us the template, and made it easy. We just have to do something with it. A nice breakdown of features we can use and why!


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you very much! I have just felt inspired to create another hub at one of my other accounts here and applying what I have talked about in this one.


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DDE 2 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

What makes a good Hub? Can we have some more engagement please? A very useful, and informative on how good hubs are put together.


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Bard of Ely 2 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for appreciating my hub!


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sallybea 2 years ago from Norfolk

Bard of Ely - A very useful Hub - beautifully crafted and well written. The words just flow from the tongue.

I agree, HubPages have certainly provided us with some great tools this year. Thanks for sharing.

Sally


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Bard of Ely 2 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Sally! I am glad you enjoyed my hub!


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Marisa Wright 2 years ago from Sydney

Bard, I only just came across this Hub and I have to correct your understanding.

"Lack of engagement" just means "lack of traffic". There may be some other minor criteria, but it's the number of readers that matters - not what they do when they visit!

You're confused, understandably, because "lack of engagement" means "lack of reader engagement" everywhere else on the internet. But not here. Paul Edmonson says that he hopes IN THE FUTURE that they'll be able to measure things other than number of readers, but right now they can't.


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Bard of Ely 2 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Well, if that is the case why does HP keep encouraging us to add maps and polls etc and why do the hubs that you add these things to stand a much better chance of staying featured? Surely this is due to the "engagement" they can provide? Surely by definition if someone answers a poll they can be interpreted as engaging with the hub in question? Though I note you say it does mean that elsewhere on the Net!


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wabond 2 years ago from England

I personally get fed up with all the BullS*T. Hubpages is a commercial company, and so it has to make money. To them a quality hub is one where people look at the adverts on it and buy. A hub that doesn't sell anything for the advertisers is a waste of time for them. It you want to make money for yourself and Hubpages then you have to write hubs that advertisers want.


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Bard of Ely 2 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Good points, William! Thanks for commenting!


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Marisa Wright 2 years ago from Sydney

@Bard, sorry for the delay. HP encourages all that stuff because it helps keep readers looking at your Hub for longer, and Google will give it extra marks for that, which means it might appear a bit higher in the search results. So it's for a different reason, nothing to do with being Featured/unFeatured.


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Bard of Ely 2 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Well, all my hubs are featured again anyway so not sure what to make of it. There was a long spell here when really good hubs were getting idled or unfeatured so I gave up and moved a lot elsewhere but now it looks as if they would have been OK here after all. I really don't claim to understand this place any more. I have hubs that had been idled now chosen as Editor's Choice too. When I was getting a lot unfeatured I found that adding maps, polls etc was enough to get them featured again. lately I haven't been much bothered by it all!


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Jenny30 2 years ago from Canada

Nice hub! Very interesting points!


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Bard of Ely 2 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for saying so!


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KawikaChann 2 years ago from Northwest, Hawaii, Anykine place

Nicely done - and still very applicable. Peace. Kawi.


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Nadine May 12 months ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Thanks for this informative post, and yes it helps to look over our posts and see what we can do to improve on them. The rest has to do with marketing,marketing and again marketing.


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Bard of Ely 12 months ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your thoughts on this!

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