How to Transition from Squidoo to HubPages

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I took this picture with my web cam after HubPages sent it after one of my hubs was chosen as Hub Of the Day
I took this picture with my web cam after HubPages sent it after one of my hubs was chosen as Hub Of the Day | Source

Settling in at HubPages

I joined HubPages in 2009, wrote a few hubs, and retreated back into my other writing sites on line. I didn't really feel at home and comfortable with HubPages then. Back then it seemed harder to get capsules to do what I wanted them to. There weren't any polls or quizzes. Now there are a lot of new capsules which make building hubs much more satisfying. The more building blocks one has, the more creative one can be in constructing a unique hub.So, I am happier with the writing process here now than I was at first.

That, though, is not the cause of my new-found enthusiasm for the site. What I appreciate most now are the various kinds of writing one can do and the conversations one can have in the comments sections. To contribute on HubPages, I don't always have to write a full hub. If I'm not feeling particularly inspired, if there's no idea in my brain fighting to come out on the keyboard, I can still find a question to answer or read and comment on someone else's hub, or see what's happening in the forums. One can get to know others a bit as you read their hubs.

Best of all, I can do the kind of writing I am best at here. My strength has always been in answering questions and participating in discussions. Answering a question makes me think and try to get at the heart of what someone wants to know. Sometimes others have already given great answers and I can just vote them up or down -- usually up. Sometimes I think there is something I can add. And sometimes trying to answer a question leads me to write a hub, thus solving the problem of what to write about. This kind of interaction is one of the primary reasons I am feeling more and more at home here.

How You Can Find Your Way Around HubPages

If HubPages is your first writing site, it may be easier to feel at home right away, since you are starting your online writing career here. It's always a good idea to read all the help files, terms of service, policies, and frequently asked questions before writing anything so that you don't make any big mistakes. You will learn to sign up for AdSense and Amazon if you wish. You may choose to sign up with the HubPages Ad Program in addition to or instead of Google and Amazon. Other members will help you settle in and find your way around. Pretty soon you will feel connected if you participate in all the opportunities offered to interact with others on the site.

If, however, you have already been very active on some other site, you will find a different way of connecting here that may feel strange at first. As many of you know, I had been active primarily on Squidoo when I first arrived. I was used to writing lenses with a lot more bells and whistles. I was used to putting Zazzle products in my lenses to both promote them and have a great source of images to fit almost any subject. I couldn't do that here.That's one thing I do miss.

I've also been spoiled, as a Giant Squid, in no longer having to count how many outgoing links per domain I have, whereas here, I still have to count and watch where my images are hosted. If you come to HubPages as a Giant Squid, you will also have to make these adjustments. You will want to read What is Allowed before publishing your first hub, so that you will be aware of what you aren't allowed to do. This is especially true in the area of links and self-promotion, because the policy on HubPages is much different than that of Squidoo.

Also, I was familiar with the Squidoo culture, which was much different than the HubPages culture. There are no games, monsters, or other such motivators. HubPages motivates with challenges, contests, awards, accolades, and earnings . If you are making the transition from Squidoo to HubPages, I have some suggestions to help you acclimate faster than I did.

I model the shirt Squidoo gave me as an award.

I believe Squidoo gave me this shirt for becoming a member of the Giant Squid 100 Club.
I believe Squidoo gave me this shirt for becoming a member of the Giant Squid 100 Club. | Source

Making the Transition from Squidoo

First, start by reading hubs. Find some people you want to follow and read what they write. Comment. You will notice that commenting is much more interactive on HubPages and more real conversations go on. I have not seen as much of that kind of interaction on Squidoo. It's one of the things I really appreciate about HubPages.

Second, look over the questions and see if there are any you want to answer. Read how others have answered the questions that interest you. You just may be inspired to write a hub to answer one of those questions. When you read someone else's hub and have unanswered questions, you can click on the right side to ask the author a question, and that will start another discusssion, as other people will also have a chance to answer. I have gotten useful answers that way.

You also might want to look over the forums. It's a good way to meet people and get an idea of which people you might want to follow. I tend to follow people who have high scores because I believe I will learn the most from them, but I also follow new hubbers who have low starting scores, if I like their work. I generally don't follow people until they have written a few hubs because there isn't anything to read yet.

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Hub Hopping

Hub-hopping is a great way to meet new hubbers -- but only if you hop in the classic mode by clicking "Classic Hopper" in the box at the top left. You might have the chance to encourage someone who just wrote a first hub by commenting and voting that first hub up. You also will get the chance to see new work from your favorite hubbers as soon as it's live. Best of all, you can hop a couple of hubs while you're taking a break from other work and you don't have a lot of time.

A few months ago a new version of the Hub Hopper was introduced. It is much different than the Classic Hopper. If you use it, you will need to evaluate each hub by specific standards that are listed. It took me a few minutes to figure it out, since I didn't see any directions the first time I entered it. Actually there were instructions, but they didn't appear the first time I clicked "Hop Some Hubs" at the top of my account page. If you don't see instructions, you might want to refresh the page.

The first hub you hop will be a sample hub to grade and then you will submit your results and get a real hub to evaluate using the sliding scale. You will not know who wrote the hub you are hopping, and you will not be able to comment on it. It's not quite as relaxing as the classic hopper.

The reason for the new Hub Hopper is to try to keep all hoppers to the same standard as they evaluate hubs. The instructions explain exactly what standards a hub should meet in the areas of substance, organization, and mechanics (including grammar.) The standards and the sliding scale used for evaluation should go a long way in making hub hopping less subjective. You might be wise to use these same standards to evaluate your own hubs before publishing them or updating them if they stop being featured.

The new Hub Hopper is part of the new quality assessment program by which new hubs are evaluated in many ways, one of them being by actual human readers. All new hubs need to go through this process before being published for the first time and featured. If your traffic drops dramatically, a featured hub may become unfeatured, When a hub is no longer featured, it will go into pending status, not be indexed by Google any longer and will have a NOINDEX tag until you have updated and improved it and it is once again featured after an new quality assessment. This is a bit different than what happened to Squidoo lenses that fell into WIP, better known on Squidoo as in the red."

One River, Two Banks

Just as one river has two uniquely beautiful banks it touches, so can the river of your writing flow easily between too shores --  HubPages and some other site you love
Just as one river has two uniquely beautiful banks it touches, so can the river of your writing flow easily between too shores -- HubPages and some other site you love | Source

Explore and Enjoy Hubpages

There are still many parts of HubPages I've not had a chance to explore. I haven't had much time to spend in the forums yet, except to get help and read announcements. I'm sure that someday I will spend more time there. But one reason I like HubPages is that there are many opportunities I can still look forward to, and I can take advantage of them at my own pace, without pressure.

I would enjoy having time to write several hubs a week all year long, but I don't have the time. So I do what I can, take a new path now and then, and come back whenever I can. Since I have come back to HubPages and settled in, I now have two writing homes and can easily move from one to the other and take advantage of the best features of each. You can do the same.

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MarloByDesign 5 years ago from United States

Very nice hub. I rated this 'useful'. I like your point "Don't neglect hub-hopping." - that is where I "met" you :) All the best.

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agvulpes 5 years ago from Australia

Cool I also found you Hub Hopping. Nice Hub with some good tips. Rated up :-)

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Hyphenbird 5 years ago from America-Broken But Still Beautiful

Thanks for the information. I love HubHopping too and find many talented and creative people to be friends with that way. Thanks for the great Hub!

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Simone Smith 5 years ago from San Francisco

Oh, so glad you mentioned Hub Hopping! Flagging Hubs whilst Hub Hopping also helps to ensure that HubPages remains a high quality site :D

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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

I'm glad some of you found me through hub hopping. I find people in so many different ways that I can't remember exactly whom I've found by hopping. It's pretty easy to go on a following spree, because as soon as you follow someone, you are taken to a list of the ones he follows, and so on. I always try to follow some of the people those I follow follow, because I find many of those people also share my interests.

Simone, I haven't found much to flag yet -- the worst I've done yet is a thumbs down. Maybe I've just been lucky not to run into any spammy hubs yet. I would never flag something I just didn't like. I'd move on. Guess I figure if I don't do anything and others feel the same way, the hub just won't get many thumbs up ratings or comments. Are we supposed to flag bad writing, which can be a subjective call, or just hubs written on taboo topics? I'll have to read those guidelines again.

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agvulpes 5 years ago from Australia

WannaB Writer, I'm not sure, but what you are calling 'bad writing' could well be a 'spun' article! If you suspect this then you should 'flag' the article to bring it to the attention of 'staff'. They will then decide if it is in fact 'spun' or just badly written! :-)

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J.S.Matthew 5 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

I couldn't agree more! I was a little awkward a few years ago when I started on HubPages. I even stopped activity for a long time. I am glad to be back because I get to meet and share ideas with people like you! Great Job, as always.


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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

agvulpes, it's more bad grammar that resembles what you find in some spam email messages, but could simply be produced by English learners. Is that how spun article appear? Some articles I see as a Squidoo Angel seem to have better English, but I suspect they may be partly copied from affiliate landing pages -- I just can't prove it and assume that the filters for duplicate content would filter such things out. Some other writing I consider not well done is in poetry format but doesn't really seem like good poetry, or even good verse. I'm tempted to give it a thumbs down, but often pass it because what seems bad to me might seem good to someone else. I also see good poetry, so I'm not against poets. I'll read the guidelines again on flagging to make sure I flag what should be flagged.

J.S., did you mean you felt awkward using the site because you didn't feel acclimated to it yet? Or did you feel your writing was awkward? Glad you came back, either way.

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J.S.Matthew 5 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

I felt that the whole experience was a bit awkward. I have always loved to write but I was limited to pen and paper. The electronic version of writing was a major change that took me a while to embrace.


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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

J.S., Was HubPages the first writing site you tried?

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J.S.Matthew 5 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

Pretty much, yes. I tried Blogger, She Told Me and Digg, and some freelance contracting sites, but I have enjoyed HubPages the most. I am a person on HubPages, not just a link.


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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

J.S., That's very true. Here you can be yourself.

PenMePretty 5 years ago

Great writer you are WannaB ...Happy Easter

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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

moonvine, I think that's the secret. Learn the culture and then pick the best place to put each piece of writing. For some jobs, only Squidoo will do. For others,HubPages is the right place. I've been spending so much time here this month I'm beginning to feel like I'm only a visitor at Squidoo. I think it's much faster to write a hub than a lens, but you see payouts sooner at Squidoo.

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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

PenMePretty, Thank you for the encouragement. You have a Happy Easter, too.

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Susan52 5 years ago

I agree with moonvine; this was very informative to me as a Squidoo veteran. I really like it over here, though you'd never know it by my volume of hubs (though they've produced some nice sales!). Thanks for the encouragement and the very helpful advice.

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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

Susan, There are only so many pieces of writing you can keep updating constantly and watching over. Squidoo puts a lot of pressure on for that updating, HubPages not so much. The comments do a lot of it here. That leaves more time for writing hubs and responding to comments than constantly thinking of things to update lenses that seemed pretty complete when you wrote them.

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Bumpsysmum 5 years ago from Cambridgeshire

Very useful, loved the picture by the way!! I shall do more hub hopping, there may a gem I'm missing out there :-)

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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

I'm afraid I'm getting to look more like that picture as the days go by, Bumpsysmum.

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Bumpsysmum 5 years ago from Cambridgeshire

My two thought I was actually a cartoon character, until they wanted something then I became human enough to dole out cash!!! :-)

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Ancillotti 5 years ago from Brasil, Vitoria - ES

I loved your hub! He played in the right spots, I'm on the site three years ago and I think I'm just now finding my way right now to write on that money just to try and neglecting the things I liked. Today I am pleased and write about what I want. Great hub. Congratulations!

Air Zimbabwe 5 years ago

good article...its very good n easy way to communicate with others on hubpages...sharing your ideas...and get opinion of others on a topic which you have posted....

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jessicab 5 years ago from Alabama

Great hub and I feel like hubpages is the best. Sometimes I write on blogger, but it just not the same. Just my opinion.

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cym 5 years ago from Europe

Nice article. I haven't had much time recently to spend on Hubpages, but this article has inspired me again to be here more often...

I just answered a comment that you posted on my Hub some time ago. So, that's how I've found you, via a comment that you posted to my Hub. For me, that's the most common way to find new people on Hubpages, via their comments on other Hubs.

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thelyricwriter 5 years ago from West Virginia

Hey there! This is really some great useful information. Thanks for sharing. I hope to establish myself also. Have a great weekend!

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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

Much success to you here, lyricwriter.

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Brinafr3sh 5 years ago from West Coast, United States

Hi, This hub is wecoming and hospitable for Hubpages. Thanks WannaB Writer, great work.

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nikkiraeink 5 years ago from So. Cal.

I feel like you took the words right out of my mouth. I joined over 3 years ago and didn't explore the site to much until now. Guess what? I love it!

Great insight!

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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

Brinafr3sh and nikkiraelink, I'm glad my words were here to welcome and orient you. Thanks you for your comments.

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SusieQ42 5 years ago

Hi! Thought I'd stop by to see if there's anything new here on Hubpages. If you like to answer questions you should also try webanswers.

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Suramya.K 5 years ago

We do share a lot of things in common and I do have interest in writing as well. The best part of HubPages is, as you said, the community around here and the warmth of the fellow HubPages users and followers. You're absolutely correct that we don't need our hubs to be perfectly written or accurately correct. There are our friends and a great community around who are there to share their thoughts and help us. Thanks for sharing this and nice to meet you!

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weestro 5 years ago from Virginia

New Hubber here, very useful info

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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

Thanks for stopping by to comment, SusieQ42

Suramya, nice to meet you, too. HubPages is a great community.

weestro, I hope it helps you settle in.

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Diana Lee 5 years ago from Potter County, Pa.

Very good information here. Thanks for sharing.

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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

Thanks for stopping by, Diana. It's good to find you here.

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Millionaire Tips 5 years ago from USA

Congrats on your two year anniversary. This is my first site, and I have found it pretty user friendly to get around, and the community is absolutely wonderful.

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WannaB Writer 5 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

I'm glad you are enjoying it. I think you'll enjoy it more the longer you stick around.

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Victoria Lynn 4 years ago from Arkansas, USA

Great hub! It's good to get perspective from someone who has been at HP a while and who also writes on other sites. Voted up and useful!

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WannaB Writer 4 years ago from Templeton, CA Author

Victoria, one thing I've learned from my own experience, though others may have a different experience, is that if one has had a good experience on one's first site, one can love that site and just want to stay with it. That was my experience on SQuidoo. I was happy, there was a great community in RocketMoms and other small groups where members helped and supported each other, and I was reveling in finally being able to write and have an audience. After a few months I was beginning to see some payouts, but my threshold for payments was one fifth what it is here, since adsense money was shared and you don't need to wait for a Google payout. It was through other Squidoo members I heard about HubPages, so I thought I'd see what it was like. I did not immerse myself. I just dabbled in it. I was still very happy at Squidoo. As I said, the contests lured me deeper into HubPages, and I was fortunate enough to taste some prize money in the first contest I entered. So I came here more.

Meanwhile, back at Squidoo, the culture was changing, as I've written in other hubs. This past year they disbanded RocketMoms, and now the only real community I have at Squidoo is on a Facebook group. All the new things intended to make me have more fun I saw as distractions, and that tie I had started to unravel. I'm not leaving. I'm just not seeing it as the #1 site for me now. It's become one of many to spread my time between. Meanwhile, HubPages keeps improving and I'm beginning to make new friends here I didn't know at Squidoo. So HubPages is now my #1 site, and the place I will invest most of my writing site time now.

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