Why I've had to start moderating my posts

When I joined the Hubpages community I knew that not everyone is going to share my opinion. Neither do I wear rose-colored glasses and assume that everyone who does disagree with me is going to be Mr. or Mrs. Polite about expressing a differing view. It just isn't the way the world works. However, I did expect for the community to be generally decent -which it is, thank the gods and thank my fellow Hubbers. For this I am utterly appreciative, as goodness knows there are enough trolls outside of here. I enjoy seeing mature people differ in a mature manner. As a parent I hear enough he-said, she-said bickering from raising four children. For these reasons the general deportment by Hubpages members has, and still is, refreshing.

And for quite awhile I had left my settings to allow for any comments to automatically appear.

Unfortunately, I just can't do this anymore. I apologize for any inconvenience or possible disappointment this poses for the many mature and rational people I have come to know and respect at Hubpages. This decision is no reflection on your behavior. My decision comes not as a reaction to an average negative comment. Nor have I had a ranter suddenly pop out of the highway bushes with a hasty drive-by snark. Nope, nothing that painless. I have encountered something else, something I just think is rather unhealthy to risk encountering again. Without dropping any names, let me just explain what this risk is by a headline. It is a bogus headline to be sure, but I fear if I don't put safety first at my Hubs something very similar to this just might be in my future.


I invite all mature Hubbers to continue reading my posts, and yes, if you happen to disagree with me, submit your comment. If that comment is respectful, non-rabid and otherwise not suspected to cause possible fatal boredom in others, the chances are that baby's going to be approved.

As for the energetic minority here who have compelled me to make this change: if the biggest thrill in your life is submitting argumentative, insulting rants disguised as comments and long enough to fill a novel, may I suggest you use your time more productively and just write an actual book? Don't be shy just because you may suffer from some obsessive-compulsive disorder that drives you to spend endless hours arguing your point to others you already know won't be bullied into into agreeing. There are plenty of people who started out as mere bloggers and went on to have successful careers on talk radio with a lot LESS to say than you probably ever will (note emphasis on probably). These angry people have found a welcoming niche among equally angry listeners. Not only this but several of these people have penned bestselling angry books now, and a few have even ended up hosting their own angry shows on TV. Have no doubt that someone, somewhere, is going to find your "genre" and words absolutely riveting. I just don't happen to have the kind of raw stamina it requires to read lengthy diatribes without having to prop my eyelids open with toothpicks. Yes, I'm totally without that level of superhuman attention prowess. But I do wish you good luck and good writing and ranting and whatever other goal you aspire to reach. Just do yourselves a favor and get out from under the bridge for a breath of fresh air every now and then.

"But Orcs and Trolls spoke as they would, without love of words or things; and their language was actually more degraded and filthy than I have shown it. I do not suppose that any will wish for a closer rendering, though models are easy to find. Much the same sort of talk can still be heard among the orc-minded; dreary and repetitive with hatred and contempt, too long removed from good to retain even verbal vigour, save in the ears of those to whom only the squalid sounds strong." ~ J.R.R. Tolkien

Before winning "Pundit of the Year" Claude Baughlls Pusse was the first recipient of the Pulitzer Prize for Trolling. He was awarded with the Golden Scratch Post and a years supply of free-range salmon.

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homesteadbound profile image

homesteadbound 5 years ago from Texas

Very interesting reading. I haven't had any such trolls. Maybe my stuff puts them to sleep!


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Vinaya Ghimire 5 years ago from Nepal

In really agree with your point of view. We many not be accomplished writer here on hubpages, but we are trying to become good writers, so the readers and commentators, also most of them aspiring writers, must not be castigate our work. I give constructive criticism and I expect that. And I believe this is not a place for our rants.


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Naomi's Banner 5 years ago from United States

Humorous Hub! If you want to hear comments that get completely out of line and attack others making long borish statements hit the forums. There you can argue to your hearts content. Enjoyed the read.


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slaffery 5 years ago from Kansas, USA

I have always moderated just for that reason. I haven't had too many non polite ones but I have had few disagree. It's okay to disagree and I even posted some that did but there is no reason to be rude. So far have not had anyone too bad yet. Voted up and interesting


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Barbara Kay 5 years ago from USA

I didn't even know you could set it as unmoderated. I probably just signed-up in the beginning the way I did and forgot you could do that.

I've only ever had to delete a comment once. That one was bad enough.


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cmlindblom 5 years ago from middletown, ct

Nice hub. I also haven't been a victim of "trolls" but who knows when my time will come. You should seriously think about gathering up all the terrible comments and make a hub about that. I would definately want to ready about that.


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SilentReed 5 years ago from Philippines

Most hubbers are generally polite and non offensive nor life threatening:) Your sense of dead pan humor brought out a smile.Thanks


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raciniwa 5 years ago from Naga City, Cebu

Ms. Penny have not died because of a mere comment directed at her, rather on the expectation that all people are the same, same feelings we have, same attitude as we have...because we live in an illusion that the pasture is greener in the other side of the fence...without looking that our pasture is greener...yes, deep inside each person is a gem, waiting to be unleashed...

thank you for sharing this insightful comment...i am new in hubpages and this information sheds light to me...


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moiragallaga 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

Funny hub with a very important message embedded in it. I enjoyed reading this and you deserve your Pulitzer. :)

There will always be disagreements and differences in opinions but I believe this should never be a reason for chucking out or failing to observe courtesy and good manners. The hateful diatribes is quite dismaying, but thankfully, there are still a lot of people who have the capacity for reasoned and respectful debate and discourse.


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GNelson 5 years ago from Florida

Anyone who thinks all their opinions are "right" is wrong. Those who are aggressive about expressing their opinions are usually very wrong. Like bullies they are irritating and a very minor part of hub pages.


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Jlava73 5 years ago from Cyberspace and My Own World

I have always choosen to moderate. I experienced some very spammy comments early on. :)


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Dexter Yarbrough 5 years ago from United States

Hi Bethperry! Unfortunately, I was harassed by a mean-spirited, jealous person. I had to get Hubpages to ban him from contacting me. For this reason, I have to moderate all comments first.

Other than that, it has been a pleasure to write here and most everyone else is kind and supportive.


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bethperry 5 years ago from Tennesee Author

Thanks to everyone who dropped by and left rational comments. It is cool to know there are so many rational people still around. Those who have experience with trolls, my empathy goes out to you. Please excuse me if I don't answer all of you individually today but it is allergy season and my eyes are filmed over. But gods bless and thanks again :)


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FitnezzJim 5 years ago from Fredericksburg, Virginia

We are allowed to choose who we follow. That is good, but it sort of makes you wish HubPages had a mechanism we could use to ignore certain commentors.

That said, I think I've seen approaches to handling trolls (like Dexter used) that I like better. I've also noted we have the ability to 'deny' comments, which means only we get to read them and can make a choice as to whether we expose the comment to the greater community. Hubber Ghost32 seems to have a good approach to this, usually indicating back to the commentor why their comment is denied, and re-inviting a comment if whatever he found objectionable was corrected. That approach allows the commentor to change, but it takes time on the part of the author, and reflects the authors commitment to make this a generally friendly and constructive community.

Good write up. In a public venue like HubPages, a trolls persistence eventually becomes his own undoing.


Ghost32 5 years ago

ROFLMAO!

Beth, your approach is so common sensical, logical, and otherwise impeccable--I couldn't begin to live up to your standard! I love what you've done here but could never aspire to such lofty heights.

See, I get those BTC (Boring Troll Comments, not to be confused with Bacon, Tomato and Condiments) posts every so often, but...actually READ them? Goodness, I don't have that many eyelid-propping toothpicks available in the entire house!

So I'll sit and eyeball the thing enough to take its measure (usually half of the first sentence or so), then skip-scan to the end, requiring a few seconds of my (admittedly bored) time at most. After which (giggling maniacally like a mad scientist or cackling like a wart-nosed witch at her cauldron, whichever) I punch that cool little Deny button, and...done!

I've even made wagers with myself regarding how long it would take Troll X (or Troll X-rated) to realize he (it's most often a he) is spending twenty to forty minutes typing his snarky epistle versus me spending perhaps 12 seconds to erase his Monument to Reason.

Perhaps I'll evolve one day, though, rise above my wickedness, and join you in the "Moderate First" category. You never know!

Voted Up and across!


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bethperry 5 years ago from Tennesee Author

homesteadbound, thank you for dropping by and leaving a comment :)

Vinaya Ghimore, I couldn't agree more.

Naomi's Banner, thanks :)

Slaffery, cool and thank you :)

Barbara Kay, yes we sure can. My problem is I have a full plate with home life and career, and while I love being a part of Hubpages I don't feel like putting my readers through the kind of comment as the one that came as the "last straw" on my camel's back. This, and it really does bore me to no end reading a lennnngthy novella sized comment and then having to delete it as well. Better just to ensure they are brief enough to qualify as a comment and then decide to allow or not. Thank you for dropping by, too, I enjoyed your comment :)


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bethperry 5 years ago from Tennesee Author

cmlindblom, I'm going to consider that! Thank you :)


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bethperry 5 years ago from Tennesee Author

SilentReed, thank you

racinawa, that's an interesting perspective!


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bethperry 5 years ago from Tennesee Author

moiragallaga, you are so right.

GNelson, amen.

JLava73, excellent move :)

Dexter Yarbrough, thanks for sharing. Sending a big cyber hug your way.


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bethperry 5 years ago from Tennesee Author

FitnezzJim, thank you for the thoughts. And yes, we can all learn something from Ghost32. My biggest problem is my time is torn between home life, career and Hubpages. So it isn't that I'm not committed, I just need at least 48 hours in a day.


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bethperry 5 years ago from Tennesee Author

Ghost32 wrote, "I've even made wagers with myself regarding how long it would take Troll X (or Troll X-rated) to realize he (it's most often a he) is spending twenty to forty minutes typing his snarky epistle versus me spending perhaps 12 seconds to erase his Monument to Reason."

I love that, lol. Thanks for dropping by hon, you the man.


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WillStarr 5 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

So far, all the trolls o HubPages seem to be far left, and after ignoring them, they all now ignore me.

Life is good.


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bethperry 5 years ago from Tennesee Author

WillStar, yeah life is good :)

I think it may be my red hair; it draws trolls like moths to a flame, lol.


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Pollyannalana 5 years ago from US

I had to do this very same several months ago when one girl got friends to help her make a nightmare of a hub I had against Obama and it was videos, not even what I said but others. I did a does Hubpages allow bullies and intimidators and unless they have changed it since they certainly do so I took control to get those out of my hair forever. It really is a shame but I notice more and more do it so I guess it is really for the best. So glad they have it now where I can set it for them all to be that way because I was always forgetting.

Well time for Jackie O. Great hub. We just do what we have to, either others understand or not.


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kittythedreamer 5 years ago from the Ether

LOL. Love it. Voted up and funny...particularly liked the JRR Tolkien text at the end on orcs and trolls' and how they speak. You are so clever, Beth.

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