DARK SECRETS of AMAZON.COM Affiliate Program

Why Amazon.com Affiliate Program Sucks

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I am good in marketing - according to the feedback from my readers and clients, my articles helped very many people by using products which I recommended like excellent ones and made sure that people can buy them with the help of Amazon.com links.

I hope that Amazon.com is very proud of my work, but I am not at all. Somehow I feel like idiot. Or at least like donkey. Why? Inspite of very positive feedback, majority of the sales have not been tracked at all...so Amazon.com is only one which earnes money, my readers are getting better, and where am I ? Up till now , after 1,5 year of using Amazon.com affiliate boxes in my hubs, I earned around 70 US$...this money I cannot get from Amazon, up till the moment I earn 100$. How promissing. This would be great if I could live for next 1000 years without any expenses...

Well, there is a cunning trick in affiliate programms, which nowadays does not allow marketers to get majority of money they earned on so hard way.

Let me explain you what is all about....I know where is the catch.

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What is affiliate program (with Amazon.com)

Through affiliate program you can earn money by recommending the visitors of your Hubs of website to purchase the products of other website - which is Amazon.com. But you don’t have to deal with any business issues such as payment collections, product deliveries, non-payments, frauds etc. All you have to do is place on your Hub box with Amazon.com links, that leads visitors to the Amazon.com which will take care of the remaining sales process. For each purchase made by the traffic sent from your Hub, you receive a commission. Your visitors (1) get to your Hub (2). From there, they are taken to Amazon.com (3), there will probably make the purchase (4), and in case that purchase is made, Amazon.com give you a comision for it (5).

Where is the catch?

This is beautiful idea. I love it. But, unfortunately this is only theory. In material reality, things do not work as promised.Let me show why.

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A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE HOW AFFILIATE PROGRAMS SHOULD WORK

Main principle of affiliate programs to be successful is tracking code of your affiliate program. When your reader clicks on Amazon.com links on your Hubs (or any other website you have, there is no difference) , your tracking code should stay registered on his/her computer with the help of cookies.

Cookies are little files which store information about

  • website your readers visit ,
  • your precious affiliate code and
  • about products they were interested in.

The beauty of cookies is that they are able to store such info for any period between 1 day or 1 year, depending on time they are programmed... Companies who give you affiliate code, usually let you know for how long they programmed their cookies, what is important because if visitor decides to buy the product later on, without visiting your Hub or website any more, cookies still store your affiliate/referral code, so this should assure that you get your commission.

But reality is not so promising, as it seems to be....cookies are naughty and wicked little creatures which obviously have ability to disappear when WE NEED THEM THE MOST:

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WHERE AND WHEN COOKIES DISAPPEAR

1. Today 95% of Internet users set up security levels on their computers very high, so cookies just do not stay cached on their PCs.
Clicks of their visit do stay tracked, but with very high security level on your reader´s PC , your tracking code and your sales just do not get registered . You actually do earn nothing, whenever somebody has too high security level set up, what happens in 95% of cases. Companies, like Amazon.com who provided you with tracking code are very well informed about that fact.

2. Even if people use moderate security level, majority of them regularly clean their computers from viruses and cookies, so if they did not buy product you referred them immediately (you allegedly should not be worried about it, because cookies should stay in their computer), when they clean PC, they clean your tracking code as well, so when they next time visit f.E. Amazon.com, without using your link and buy product you referred to them, your cookies do not exist any more, so your all effort was for nothing. So cookies are in the most cases just beautiful story which does not work in reality.

3. Duration of cookies on Amazon.com is 24 hours only. Even if everythign works fine, there is not a lot chances for bigger earnings.

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BUT, BUT...I STILL EARN SOME MONEY

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Some of you will say: But, I still do earn some money, some sales are recorded.

That is true. We do earn money whenever somebody does not set up security level too high for our sales to be recorded. When is level of security moderate, our tracking code does its job. If it is very high, forget about your money. Unfortunately for us, 95% of people are wise enough to protect themselves from PC viruses, at the same time they protect us from earning our money.

In this case I believe that the owners of HubPages also can forget about their part of money, so trick is much more dangerous then it looks like.

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No you will not become instantly rich, if system is rotten, like it is.
No you will not become instantly rich, if system is rotten, like it is.

AM I SURE ABOUT IT?

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I discovered this trick of fraud several months ago, when I set up few affiliate programs on my own website. None of the sales which my clients, with whom I was in e-mail contact was recorded.

I found out (from Comission Junction where I applied for selling Native Remedies) why the sales are not recorded ...Of course they explained that only 5% of visitors set up very high level of security, so I should not worry about that - (what is lie, the truth is that today 95% of people do that)- and they recommended me that I should focus on more intensive marketing (!) and not on this few non-recorded sales.

My boyfriend and me checked that statement, made experiments, and realized that tracking number of affiliator is visible - only when we set security level as "moderate". When is high, referral codes and numbers, just do not exist, what is certainly not problem of costumers.So I deleted that affiliate programs from all my sites.

The same case is with Amazon.com, every now and on I get some happy e-mail from my readers, who ask me various questions about their health in connection of using product which they bought after I referred them through my Hubs. They do believe that they have right to ask, because they think I am earning money from these sales, but usually purchase is not recorded....so I had to start to charge for such info...everyone who asks. Sorry.

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If your sales with Amazon.com are low, from this Hub you can see, that you are not so bad in marketing....something else is rotten.

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I would recommend Hubbers (who can) who are not satisfied with Amazon.com to use E-Bay instead, because E-Bay recently became PCP program (pay-per-click) and clicks do get recorded.... .

I did not fully test click programms yet , so I cannot swear if really all clicks are actually recorded. I know if somebody just quickly clicks to another website and changes mind before is completely open, such click does not get recorded, but this should not discourage anyone of using such programs (Google, E-Bay).

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I live in the part of the world, where we cannot use E-Bay, because is connected with PayPal system...which is not available ewerywhere...so Hubbers like me (Europe, Croatia, South Africa, Phillipini, etc, etc....) can basicaly rely on Google only (we are very happy about that fact, you can imagine)... so you will still see Amazon.com on my sites, at least for some time, up till I do not find solution which will not make me so stupid in my own eyes. But as soon as I find it, I will stop using it.

This is, of course, my personal experience, I would be glad that everybody shares it´s own.

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Exxchausted Hubber after trying to earn money with Amazon.com

Comments 49 comments

Mr Nice profile image

Mr Nice 6 years ago from North America

Kako si Tatjana,

First of all I congratulate you on your Hubbers interview. Interesting interview and thanks for remembering your forgotten friend..........hahaha just kidding.

Amazon affiliate program sucks, I don't promote any of them on my hubpages. Very comprehensive overview of Amazon and affiliate programs in general. Enjoy rest of your day.

I still love you, lots love and hugs......


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Hi, Tony, so glad to see you here... How can I ever forgotten you???

I hope you are well?? Working hard???

A lots of love and hugs...


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Money Glitch 6 years ago from Texas

Congratulations on your Hubbers interview! Thanks for sharing the information in this hub. I did not know that the security around the cookies played such an important part in this process.

I stopped being impressed with Amazon's affiliate program when I begin receiving e-mails that sounded like they were trying to push me to improve my sales. After reading this hub, I'm going to continue to ignore them until we start getting treated more fairly.


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you very much for your kind words, Money Glitch. I will suggest you that on your Hubs use E-Bay instead of Amazon. You will not earn fortune, but you WILL EARN more and more quickly then with Amazon.

Thank you for your comment and sharing your experience.


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Mr Nice 6 years ago from North America

Kako si Tatjana,

It is always nice to hear from you. I hope you and your BF are doing fine. I am fine too and every thing is same but everyday is just another day. I am waiting for the lottery jackpot, which will never happen but nothing wrong to be hopeful.....hahaha.

Just kidding I know for now I have to survive, who knows things might change in near future. I wish you a wonderful day today.

Love, happiness and hugs for you.....


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

With my boyfriend and me is great, thanks, dear Tony.

Miracle happened, finaly.

It is always good to hope...

Many regards, and love....

He, he, the other readers (AND THEY ARE MANY OF THEM) of this Hub are not so brave to live the comment, I hope this will change...


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thanks, Dali.

Well, you cannot get payment before you earn 100 US$ or equivalent in Euros...

As soon as I first time reached 100 US$, Google paid me, and since then I regurarly get checks... (whenever my earning is over 100, next month Google sends check). With Google it goes much better then with Amazon.com.

I wish you a lot of success and thanks for visit and comment.


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Ben Zoltak 6 years ago from Lake Mills, Jefferson County, Wisconsin USA

Wow, thanks for sharing your research Tatjana! I have been on Hubpages for 5 weeks, and with just about 40 hubs, I have made $2.50 on Amazon and $1.40 with Adsense. I've been thinking about dropping most of my Amazon ads to see if it would make my Adsense clicks go up. What do you think?

Thanks for the solid information!

Ben


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Well Ben, for first 5 weeks you are doing just well.

Congratulations. All of us writing here had the similar results on the beginning. Just be patient and do not give up. First $1oo is the hardest to get, after that is much more easier. I would suggest you to try to use E-Bay instead of Amazon.com ( for me there is no point to use it, because we cannot get money from E-Bay in Europe). Few colleagues wittnesed about great effect of E-Bay on Hubs.

For the first few weeks, it is not important how many Hubs you have, it is more important how many readers you have per day. More readers = more Google ads clicked...

I hope this helped you.


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Ben Zoltak 6 years ago from Lake Mills, Jefferson County, Wisconsin USA

Thanks Tatjana! Good advice, I will give Amazon a few more days, then probably make the switch. Meanwhile, your article inspired me to write another similar (but different) article!

I used your name and backlinked your article on mine, take a look! I hope you like it, let me know if you don't!

http://hubpages.com/literature/Associated-Content-...

Ben


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you very much, Ben, I am really honored, it looks great.

BTW, everything is always worth of experimenting... You will see real results $$ of your writing in next 2-3 months, so you will know what really works for you.


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Ben Zoltak 6 years ago from Lake Mills, Jefferson County, Wisconsin USA

Wow Tatjana a 100!!! Holy smokes lady, nice work! It's one thing to be gorgeous, it's another to be smart! Congratulations!


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you very much, Ben! After 17 months of writing and many Hubs....finally score 100 , YEEEEAH! Thank you.


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Hussains 6 years ago from Olympia, WA

A great Hub. Thanks Tatjana for sharing Wish you and yours a great 2010!


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you so much, Hussains, wishing you as well very Happy New Year.


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Hello, hello, 6 years ago from London, UK

Thank you for a down-to-earth and honest hub. I just discovered you and became your fan. Hope to see more well written hubs.


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you very much, Hello, Hello.


Wife Who Saves 6 years ago

Thank you for an informative hub. My main complaint with Amazon is that the cookie is only valid for 24 hours. If someone clicks through my hub to the product and then bookmarks the product page until payday on Friday, I do not receive the commission. I have removed all Amazon capsules from my hubs until they offer more than a 24 hour cookie.


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

24 hours only? It is even less then I was thinkin duration of cookie it is. No wonder we do not get a lot of comission.

Thank you very much, Wife Who Saves for your comment. I also use Amazon.com capsules only occasionaly. If I do not have anything else to put there.


A James 6 years ago

Thanks Tatjana, I had no idea that security was destroying affiliate earnings potential - guess I'd better go investigate ebay


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you AJ. Ebay is more appropriate for earning, I agree with you.


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platinumOwl4 6 years ago

Thanks for sharing this information. I could not understand what was happening. Now I am sure what I was thinking was right. Thanks again and keep us all informed.


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you very much, PlatinumOwl. I am glad I helped you.


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jstankevicz 6 years ago from Cave Creek

Hmmm, always wondered why my use of Amazon links on HubPages never produced any revenue. I have several HubPages about mystery writers and books with relevant Amazon links and no $. Adsence does work. Thanks for the Hub insights!


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Hi, Jstankevicz,

In addition to above mentioned, duration of Amazon cookies is 24 hours only. So even if all works well, and the buyer of product bookmarks Amazon com website to which your link leads for later buy, 24 hours later your tracking code cookie will not work any more.

I am glad that my explanation helped you.


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robertmstanley 6 years ago from Phoenix

Another reason, or so I hear, is that the Amazon cookies don't live beyond 24hrs. So If the shopper, who was referred by you, leaves Amazon but later comes back... you still lose the sale because the cookie is expired.


Duchess OBlunt 6 years ago

Thank you for answering this niggling question for me. I hate to ask them because I don't want my ignorance to show, but I have been wondering. Like you I have had people tell me they bought something from my ads but I have not seen 1 penny yet.

Your explanation of why makes so much sense! I'm very happy you took the time to share this information.


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

You are right, Robert, Amazon cookies live only 24 hours in addition to all what I mentioned above. Not a lot of chance to earn some money...

Thank you very muchfor the visit and comment.


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you very much Duchess, I am so glad that you confirmed what I wrote in this Hub (but not glad that we share this negative experience)

I wish you to find more reliable solution to earn more $$$.


ellinor 6 years ago

Great hub, thank you. Bee ing a fairly new hubber I wonder if i just give up on amazone, and mayby try with e-bay.But i thought I had to set up a buisness for that


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you very much, Ellinor.


Lynnette 6 years ago

I loved this hub. I have had a problem with Amazon but for different reasons. I live in one of the states where they have essentially fired all affiliates because the state is trying to get sales tax. Now I know that I was being a chump the entire time and I have no idea what kind of money I could have earned. Great job!


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Hi Lynette, never be sorry if you get fired (even as affiliator)- you can always get something much better instead.

Thank you for the visit and comment.


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pmccray 6 years ago from Utah

Thanks again for the great shared information. Rated, bookmarked and printed.


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you very much, Pmccray.


Canadian 6 years ago

Thanks Tatjana for this article that lots of affiliates have identified with.

I will still disagree with the percentage of high security level effect on tracking code.I think it should only be 5% at most. If you try to set browser security to high level,your browsing will be a hassle,even google does not like it.

Good luck and have a great day!


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you very much for your comment, Canadian.


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Sage Williams 6 years ago

Very interesting and informative hub. Thanks so much for sharing all of this very valuable information. I wish I could do ebay but apparently they have changed there rules and are not easy to get anymore.

Great Job on this hub,

Sage


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you Sage: I cannot use E-Bay as well, and I still put some Amazon boxes on some of my Hubs, but do not count on "big earnings" with them.

I wish you a lot os success.


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L Wagen 6 years ago

People, people, keep in mind the owners of HubPages get their share of Amazon purchases. They must be getting some revenue or they wouldn't keep this site open. Sometimes the revenue from the people who said they are buying from your ads on Hubpages goes to the publisher of this site ,HubPages. They get so many page impression's revenues. Read your terms and conditions. Personally the few Hub Pages that I have written have earned me $0 in revenue. I have decided only to enter the contests only to try to win some money, and have given up earning any money with HubPages.


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

I agree with you LW, but only up to the certain point.

The truth is also that I regurarly get check from Google, because after some time 0$ stops to be 0$ any more, and gradually becomes real Google check.After some time earnings become much higher and checks regular.

Actually, writing on HP helped me to earn a very valuable amount of money.

Thanks for visit and comment.


2carz 6 years ago

Thank you for this info and i will try e-bay :)


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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thank you very much Eafblog, I became your fan as well.


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dawnM 5 years ago from Camarillo, CA

wow super advice and I do agree that amazon does not pay very well at all or at least that is my experience! thank-you for the honest and well educating article!


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Tatjana-Mihaela 5 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Thanks dawnM. At this moment I earned 133 $ from Amazon,(after 2 years using it ), still waiting for first check (they need aprox 2 months after earning to send it, and they will deduct 15 US$ for sending me that check. With normal post. That costs 4 $, not 15 as they will charge for. Google always send checks for free. While working with Amazon, only Amazon is ultimate winner.

Thank you for visit and comment.


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Suzanne Day 5 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Thanks for your hints on the Amazon capsule, might remove it from my hubs if nothing much happens. Have only got 4 hubs and already received 4 cents from Adsense - this is encouraging but hope it gets bigger!!!


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Tatjana-Mihaela 5 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA Author

Hi Suzanne, congratulations on first 4 cents from Google after only 4 Hubs. Certainly, after writing more Hubs it will be much better, on the beginning is always - little or nothing. If Amazon will not work, you might try with E-Bay, or test all methods so you can find the way which works for you. Wish you a lot of luck.


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VirginiaLynne 4 years ago from United States

I'm a latecomer to this hub info but very much appreciate what you've said. I think that Amazon now offers a gift card for $10 earnings, so that helps some, and I'm almost there. Now it makes a lot of sense to me why I have so many clicks and so few sales. I actually do think that sometimes these sorts of capsules can be for the reader and not just for my own earnings though. I want my reader to be able to get to a product easily if I've made them interested. Still, it seems a shame I can't get credit.


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