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Cowards on HubPages

  1. Peter Hoggan profile image85
    Peter Hogganposted 8 years ago

    I recently made a post on a hub entitled 'Cowards on HubPages' The post was denied with this explanation:

    I have denied some comments here because they contain only personal derrision and although the forums will not be moderated, evidently, I will moderate my pages. Disagreement and opposing views are no problem, but personal attacks are. You might as well not even try that here, Marisa and Peter.

    Here is the post that was denied

    There are definitely a few hubbers that don’t take critical comments well, especially those who post overly promotional hubs. There are also a good number of hubbers that are quick to post unnecessarily derogatory remarks.

    In this case, however, the assumptions made by recraig2 are entirely wrong and the tone of hub says much about his character. This hub, in my opinion, identifies him as one of the very people he seems to be pointing his finger at. i.e. infantile

  2. Peter Hoggan profile image85
    Peter Hogganposted 8 years ago

    Anyone else being censored please feel free to post here.

    1. Lady Guinevere profile image61
      Lady Guinevereposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Oh yeah I am censored all over the place on the hubs and in forums.  They just don't like what I say and they have even called me names.

    2. profile image59
      panah100posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Peter, I may be young and naive, but censorship is nothing new to me. It happens all the time, and I believe sometimes its necessary (dealing with folks who shouldn't be online). And aggressive marketers never learn. So what can you do?

  3. Mark Knowles profile image60
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    He is a troll and appears to be here just to fight. big_smile

    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/10090

    I am not sure starting another argument in the forums is going to do you a lot of good though. I for one think people should be allowed to delete whatever comments they choose from their own hubs.

    Like I always say to anyone who starts fighting on my hubs or blogs -

    I am the one with the "delete" button - therefore I get to have the last word lol

  4. Peter Hoggan profile image85
    Peter Hogganposted 8 years ago

    Mark, I tend to agree with what you say and have had comments blocked before which I just ignored. However, in this instance the grounds for the original complaint were completely unfounded and resulted in fellow hubbers being called infantile. What I find hypocritical, and the reason for this side thread, is the fact that when his actions are called infantile by another hubber the comment is censored. Secondly, he used my name in connection with an attack of personal derision which needs to be cleared up.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Well, even though we are on the internet, there are still libel laws around. big_smile

      I just do not think you are going to get this sort of person to give in. They feed on fighting and animosity. They like nothing better than upsetting people and watching their reactions.

      It is obvious he is just here to sow dissent and discord. I spotted him the moment I read his profile page. With a little luck he will attack the wrong person and get himself deleted lol

  5. jimmythejock profile image83
    jimmythejockposted 8 years ago

    Can I stop cowering in the corner yet? is he gone.....jimmy

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I always knew you Indian elves were cowards deep down big_smile

      1. jimmythejock profile image83
        jimmythejockposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        You know me so well Mark, lol.....jimmy yikes

      2. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image59
        VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Dont you think it is not fair to say "Indian elves were cowards"?  Your bravery need not be shown in Hub Pages.

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          This was a joke in reference to another thread.

          Do you have elves in India?

          1. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image59
            VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            No Indian elves in India.  Some may have come from somewhere.

        2. Misha profile image75
          Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you for the giggles lol

  6. conflictuniverse profile image60
    conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago

    I see Mark is still in the forums giving people a hard time for no reason.

    You seriously need to get a woman Mark, and you Jimmy, his faithful pet.

    1. jimmythejock profile image83
      jimmythejockposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Oh dear I think someone needs a sense of humor transplant, and to stop acting like a spoiled brat, maybe you should rethink your strategy and grow up a little.....jimmy
      P.S thankyou for the wonderful insult I really appreciate it, maybe next time you will think of a funny name to call me.

      1. conflictuniverse profile image60
        conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I don't really find people ganging up on newbies funny to be honest. So you, and your master should get another hobby. Perhaps pushing old ladies on front of cars or something


        1. Marisa Wright profile image92
          Marisa Wrightposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          I'm sorry, but I have to agree.  Mark and Misha, I love you to bits and some of the stuff you do is very funny - but I do think things have gone a bit far.  Yes, there is the odd idiots who posts on these forums, but deliberately baiting them only makes it worse.  You may think you are having a bit of harmless amusement making fun of them, but what we end up with is long threads full of hate. 

          Newbies who arrive in the forum don't always understand what the spammers did to deserve such invective, so they get the impression everyone on the forum is nasty to newbies.

          Let's not paint such a horrible picture of HubPages, it's not like that at all!

          1. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image59
            VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            "Yes, there are idiots who post on these forums, but...."   
            Is this the contribution of Marisa Wright to make newbies hate HP ?

            1. Marisa Wright profile image92
              Marisa Wrightposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Not at all Venugopal.  It's an indisputable fact that on any forum, you will find idiots who arrive and make nonsensical or inflammatory or brazenly self-promotional posts.  I am not referring to any particular Hubber or anyone who has posted on this thread - I'm making a general statement about one of the realities of internet forums.  That's all.

              1. Misha profile image75
                Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                So, how exactly you suggest to deal with that problem?

                1. Marisa Wright profile image92
                  Marisa Wrightposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  Well, you may have noticed that baiting and making fun of them doesn't make them go away - it only makes them angry, and then a lot of nasty things are said on both sides.

                  If you're sure they're idiots, ignoring them and letting their thread die is probably the best option.  If you're not sure whether they're genuine or fake, you could give them the benefit of the doubt for a post or two.

                  1. Misha profile image75
                    Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    Well, I guess the difference among us is you assume people don't change. If they are nice - they are nice, if they are idiots - they are idiots. Forever. With that assumption, your position makes some sense - why bother?

                    Can't say for Mark, but I assume that people do change actually, and sometimes pretty fast. I think even here on HP we saw several examples of people coming here all guns blazing playing idiots and becoming respected members of the community after a cold shower. We help them to change, and I think it's a worthy deed. smile

                    On the other hand, I am not buying into "supporting Hubpages reputation". I had more than enough of this line back in USSR, always without exception used to restrict my freedom/rights. Since then, I don't care about reputation of any community I belong to, be it family, neighborhood, city, country, nation - you name it. I only care about my own one. Community reputation will take care of itself. smile

                    Now, about what you mentioned on another thread about driving newbies away. Frankly, I don't care either. If people don't understand what the fight is about on those threads, they probably should not be online, and I definitely am not interested in having them around. Yes, there are probably some would be hubbers who would have been evolved into valuable community members. This is the cost of keeping this community as enjoyable and vibrant as it is now, and I am willing to pay it. smile

                    Try to look at it as an entry barrier. Yes, it does not weed out all idiots unfortunately, and it does weed out some worthy people - but it does its job on average and makes this community what it is - one of the best in town for people who think for themselves smile

  7. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    "I see Mark is still in the forums giving people a hard time for no reason".
    "conflictuniverse"
    Is this irony or what.

    1. conflictuniverse profile image60
      conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Idiot, the fact that I said " "I see Mark is still ... " means that I have witnesses it time and time again. As for me, this is the first time I had said anything

      congrats, this post makes it my second time

  8. gamergirl profile image60
    gamergirlposted 8 years ago

    ROFL what is the deal lately with these people coming through accusing folks with full lives behind them and full lives ahead of them of having none?

  9. gamergirl profile image60
    gamergirlposted 8 years ago

    First you spam the forums, now you're making personal attacks on people for no reason.  You don't really like it here, do you?

  10. conflictuniverse profile image60
    conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago

    Hubpages users have a rep for being rude, and unhelpful.
    So far,  I haven't seen anything to prove this statement wrong.
    I would love to be proven wrong though

    1. Lazur profile image83
      Lazurposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Tadaaaaa!!  How can I help you? cool

  11. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    Lets make it a 3 timer. "Idiot". Now you owe me.
    "As for me, this is the first time I had said anything "
    Cause must be u have nuthin to say.

  12. conflictuniverse profile image60
    conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago

    You really have no freedom here.

    You can't do this, you can't do that.
    No wonder Squidoo people are so much more friendly, and helpful, they aren't caged by crappy rules, or harassed by stuffy old men with nothing to do

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      lol

      Guess you must have been here in another persona then?

      Forexmaster? lol

  13. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    "I don't really find people ganging up on newbies funny to be honest."
    Then maybe you should try-on a new mouth.

    1. conflictuniverse profile image60
      conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      That makes no sense at all.
      Congrats on building 18 lenses in 12 month by the way.
      Perhaps if you spent less time on the forums being a smart ass, you might have 3 times that many by now and actually making some money.

      Then again, you don't seem the intelligent type.


  14. gamergirl profile image60
    gamergirlposted 8 years ago

    STOP.

    Just stop.

    There's no need to behave like this.  Please just move on, go about your merry way.

  15. conflictuniverse profile image60
    conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago

    Join Tags-I-Like and makes some posts please smile

  16. gamergirl profile image60
    gamergirlposted 8 years ago

    Please don't spam our forums.

    1. conflictuniverse profile image60
      conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Sorry, I didn't realize you was the owner

      1. Lady Guinevere profile image61
        Lady Guinevereposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Sir, Your attitude is the exact one the you say that you don't like.  Now I have only been in this forum topic a shor time.  You are complaining that *everyone* is rude here?  I ask of you how many have you really found rude.  It can't be all of us and it is rude to assume what you are assuming.  There are over thousands of members here--have you asked anything of all of them to come to your rediculous conclusion?

      2. gamergirl profile image60
        gamergirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I'm not the owner, conflictuniverse - I'm just a HubFreak who doesn't like what you're doing right here, right now.  You post threads advertising your website, then come here in this thread and knock and two decent people, present yourself with a very poor attitude, and then expect us to all recoil in apology because you think Squidoo folks are more awesome.

        I think the people I meet are better judged based off themselves, not the site they frequent the most or where you met them first.

        Whatever the reason for your negative and cruddy outbursts, I hope you stop them soon, otherwise you're just going to see yourself be ignored, bashed on for your own antics, or who knows what else.

        It's the holiday season, there shouldn't be this much anger thrown at anybody.

  17. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 8 years ago

    Where is this newbie to stomp on? lol

    1. Lazur profile image83
      Lazurposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Don't hurt me please lol

  18. jimmythejock profile image83
    jimmythejockposted 8 years ago

    I know my place conflictuniverse, You insult me and I am not allowed to retort so like a good boy I will not reply to your petty ranting any further, take care and at least try to get into the community spirit have a nice Christmas and chill out.....jimmy

  19. Zsuzsy Bee profile image85
    Zsuzsy Beeposted 8 years ago

    What is going on? Why are all these weirdos coming in here complaining. Doesn't it make sense to move on from some place where you do not enjoy yourself? I checked out squidoo last year and didn't much like it, so do I go and attack people there? No...I do not go back there... I stick with what I like, Hubpages.

    Here is a brain wave for you 'ConflictUnivers' an easy solution. I'm surprised a smaaart fellow like you hasn't thought of it yet... Go away from this aweful forum

  20. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 8 years ago

    You? yikes

    Never! I never hurt women Lazur, cause for some reason I love them all smile

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      <watch the language, even in jest>

      1. Lazur profile image83
        Lazurposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        *sigh* roll

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          No, Misha is the <watch the language, even in jest>. wink

          Didn't mean to suggest anything towards you.......

          Nice hat though big_smile

        2. VioletSun profile image68
          VioletSunposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          wink hehe.

          1. Misha profile image75
            Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Violet, you new avatar is really cute smile

            1. VioletSun profile image68
              VioletSunposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Thank you! Felt it was time for a change. smile

      2. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Never pretended I am not tongue

  21. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    "where Squidoo lensmasters and Hubpage authors can hang out,"
    Not lookin' like it.

  22. conflictuniverse profile image60
    conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago

    Lazur, is that your real picture, cause that's hot

    1. Lazur profile image83
      Lazurposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      My face is real big_smile I won't expose the rest of my body otherwise Mark is going to suggest things, like saying I'm wearing a nice hat or something lol lol roll

      1. conflictuniverse profile image60
        conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I checked you out on your blog. Me likey

  23. Lady Guinevere profile image61
    Lady Guinevereposted 8 years ago

    Not to be off topic, but how are you all getting those smilies on your responses?

  24. conflictuniverse profile image60
    conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago

    beats me big_smile

    1. Lady Guinevere profile image61
      Lady Guinevereposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Smart ass :p

  25. Lady Guinevere profile image61
    Lady Guinevereposted 8 years ago

    tongue tongue tongue

  26. Marlene F. profile image80
    Marlene F.posted 8 years ago

    I am a Newbie here.  Is this all for real or a joke?  Sorry for being so seemingly naive, but I truely am......?????

  27. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image59
    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago

    A general clean up of Hub Pages may be necessary, if it is to survive.  People with animosity towards a group of people or a country or a religion should find no place there.  People with impartial sense will only will suit such a public forum like this.  Only "courageous"  people are needed here.

    1. conflictuniverse profile image60
      conflictuniverseposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Well, I guess I'm staying then

  28. Miranda Rights profile image59
    Miranda Rightsposted 8 years ago

    Newbies are the pond scum of the HubPages ecosystem. They exist only to be fed upon by apex hubbers.

    1. Misha profile image75
      Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I think you managed to escape this fate somehow wink

      1. profile image0
        Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Naw, you just need to know how to talk to the 'apexers,' then they turn into angels and saints.  smile

        1. Miranda Rights profile image59
          Miranda Rightsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Plus I offered a sacrificial hub as to please the apexers... (it's less messy than burnt flesh, and you can put the adsense on it!)

          1. profile image0
            Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Excellent technique, Miranda!  lol wink

    2. profile image59
      panah100posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      You lost me at ecosystem. What were you saying again?

  29. Marlene F. profile image80
    Marlene F.posted 8 years ago

    OK...So I guess in only 3 weeks I have found a way to offend someone.  I apologize.  Guess I'll stick to writing Hubs instead of exploring the site to learn more about the people on it...I am very new to this and my last intent was to upset or offend.  Also, I have no idea what an apexer is, so if I have done something wrong I would love for someone to let me know.  Thank you.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image92
      Marisa Wrightposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      See what I mean, guys?    Marlene, I hope we can make you feel welcome on HubPages - sorry you got caught up in this business.  Give it time, and you'll find we're not all ogres after all!

  30. Marlene F. profile image80
    Marlene F.posted 8 years ago

    Marisa,
    Thank you.  I also appreciate you giving me the advice about the photos.  I didn't know that there were on-line photos that I was allowed to use.  I thought they had to be personal pictures.  Thank you for helping me out.

  31. profile image0
    Leta Sposted 8 years ago

    No, Marlene-

    No worries!  Much of this here is in double entendre with people just having fun. 

    I admit they did come on a little strong with me (well, one) when I first tumbled on the forums, but I am who I say I am and do what I say I do.  A lot of the brusqueness has to do with scammers and spammers and people trying to convert others to their religious views, etc.

    There are some nuts on here, but after you get used to them, you'll know how to avoid them...  There are also some very intelligent and well read people on Hubpages.  Some excellent writers.

    smile

  32. Miranda Rights profile image59
    Miranda Rightsposted 8 years ago

    To be serious for a second, Hub Pages is probably one of the least spammed and most friendly forums on the interwebs. If you think Misha or Mark are rough then you haven't been very far.... most places happily textually dismember foolish newbies for their amusement... by comparison the harshest comments around here don't even amount to a slap on the wrist...

    I guess what I want to say is zomg, harden up, this place is awesome... and sometimes everyone needs a little tough love

  33. profile image0
    Leta Sposted 8 years ago

    I'm sure there is space for everybody...  Best (for me) is just to give others space.  I'm not that offended by differing opinions. 

    What I thought, when first on here, is that there are some very professional people on here--what do I want to say?  Serious writers, etc.?  And people who are who they say they are and do whatever they profess to do (man, you gotta to if you are using your actual name).  And I was expecting it to be more across the board.  I made my way in the print media for years, so--  It's a different world from internet.

    But viva la difference!  And there are some great people of all types on here.

    Just need to avoid (or change!) the trolls.  smile

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