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An incredible hubber leaving the nest (and the team's incessant fidling...

  1. bbnix profile image61
    bbnixposted 4 years ago

    kimberly's closed down her hubs....it will never be the same here again...i for one not only love her, but love her work that has transformed my life....

    1. paradigmsearch profile image90
      paradigmsearchposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      "Sorry that user no longer exists"

      You sure weren't kidding! I'd have left the account open. Do you know where she went?

      1. bbnix profile image61
        bbnixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Kimberly has accomplished so much, and really deserved much better treatment by Hubpages staff. It's understandable she had to move on, and she's not the type to just let her hubs and her work lay idle either.

        She really put her heart and soul into the hubs, for years, and was there for so many people, including myself. You could spend several lifetimes and not find a more precious caring soul. She was always there for us, but you know, in the end, while she so desperately wrote an incredible book about pain, sacrifice and, ultimately, precious survival, and then has put everything into promoting that book, all the while trying to help others, the community here abandoned her....the team hounded her for tiny inconsequential things....no one cared for her. She was alone. So why should she commit anything back here anyway...but you know. That's not her. That's my opinion.

        She's simply trying to carve a little living on her own. And, again, personally, anything I can do to help her, i'll do so unconditionally, because, that's how she's helped me.

        In terms of finding her, I can't speak for her, but if she would like me to pass something on, on her behalf, I would be proud to help..

        Thank you....

  2. bbnix profile image61
    bbnixposted 4 years ago

    Nobody has a comment for  Kimberly, (kimberlyslyrics). Come on people...really..?

    well, i'll say something. Kimberly, you are the greatest. Such a fun loving incredible soul, and will be missed so much. You had 1300 followers because you were and are that good. You won the Hubbers Award because you are that good.  I WISH you all the luck aned aclaim and love you deserve. OBVIOUSLY, no one around here really cares...I'm sorry for that....don't take it personal. You are incredible..

    thanks for all the fun, education, and sometimes, tears. You never deserved the pain in your life, and I want you to know, I'll always be here for you, my dear, dear friend...godspeed..

    1. Shadesbreath profile image89
      Shadesbreathposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Since you did ask "?" I suppose I can try to explain what I think happened to your thread.

      I think the dripping melodrama might have put people off from chiming in for one thing. It's so saccharine, even if someone did have something nice to say, it's like being at a funeral or something at this point.

      And if not that, the in-your-face condemnation of HP, convicting the staff of "hounding" for "inconsequential things" as you do, besides being something of a "biting the hand that feeds" you thing, and besides being one side of a story at best, you make it sound like they beat her with sticks while she was trying to run an orphanage on the scant proceeds of her puppy and kitten adoption agency.

      I could be wrong, but that's my guess why people aren't responding to your thread. I don't think its because KL wasn't a very well liked hubber. She certainly was. I for one hope she does well with her book! Maybe if we lighten the mood others can say nice stuff and kind of move away from the slapping HP in the face on their own forums.

      1. Anna Marie Bowman profile image93
        Anna Marie Bowmanposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I couldn't agree with you more, Shades...I liked her.  I know most of us did.  Even now, we are talking about her as if she were dead, instead of just gone.  I have seen far too many great Hubbers and friends come and go.  Some for conflicts with HP, some for personal reasons, and yes, some have even passed away.  I do not feel the need to point fingers and place blame in why people leave.  That is their issue, not mine.

      2. wavegirl22 profile image48
        wavegirl22posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        +1 (and then some!)

    2. jacharless profile image81
      jacharlessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Just noticed this thread.

      I do not know the full Monte, surrounding the dialogue, if any, between she and HP, and honestly it's  really none of anyone's business. How-eaver, I did "speak" and read Kimbers info on FB and good to see, even noble to read, that the Hub Community is rallying behind her in friendship/support.

      Either or, she has truly spread her wings and maybe, just maybe has outgrown HP.  {Gasp! Someone would even dare think such a thing!}. I do not know the dialogue, if any, between she and HP, the perma-banning, etc. What I do know are two empirical facts:
      a. she is still with "us" as prey. lol. {refrains from explaining why this makes me chuckle sinisterly}
      b. her work has transcended the narrow parameters of article writing/hyper-blogging while her print/epub elements are sky rocketing and PR "tight". Power to the Lyrics! Am right behind her -as are others both here and back again....

      Comradery, giggles, tickles and lashings will certainly be missed. But, everything -everyone- must grow, opening room for others and new adventures, else become stagnated and wither.

      As for technical itinerary. Revamps on sites are not all that uncommon but, yes, excessive technical issues should not happen, especially after such a long period of establishment. Even still, this is precisely why sites -small and large- have Beta Testing periods, for new products/features, to work out bugs, before roll out. A few, very minor tweaks after are expected.


  3. LuisEGonzalez profile image81
    LuisEGonzalezposted 4 years ago

    KL is a great soul and was always there with answers or suggestions. I for one will miss her contributions...........sad

  4. Hollie Thomas profile image60
    Hollie Thomasposted 4 years ago

    I didn't know she'd gone until I just saw this, I sent her an email this morning but didn't know she'd gone. What happened?

  5. psycheskinner profile image81
    psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago

    Also, she is not here.  So if I have something to say to her, this is not the place to do it.

    1. bbnix profile image61
      bbnixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      If not here, where?

      Believe me, she knows we're here talking about her, how about some support, concern and well wishes..

      And those of you are...thank you so much....you have no idea how happy that makes Kimberly....

      1. paradigmsearch profile image90
        paradigmsearchposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I found her and dropped her a note. smile

      2. psycheskinner profile image81
        psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        To her, such as by email.  I expect that, unlike some people, once she says she is leaving she actually leaves.

  6. bbnix profile image61
    bbnixposted 4 years ago

    Thank you for your responses. I'm sure Kimberly appreciates your support.

    In terms of "dripping melodrama," if that's what it takes to put someone off then I would suggest they check their judgemental states at the door. My concern is for my dear friend. If my passion for the injustice in her life including my direct knowledge as to how she's been mistreated by people, often horrifically, including HP, so be it. If that puts you off, that really says volumes as to your seemingly shallow support of Kimberly. As far as "biting the hands that feeds you," Hubpages has nothing to do with my life, let alone its successes annd failures. Yes, I've enjoyed this site, but more the community within it. Certainly, I'll thank the principles enabled that opportunity. But, again, I know what the Hubpages staff has done directly and indirectly to Kimberly, and at times, it was blatanly unfair, and other times, shamefull.

    In terms of seeming like a wake, no you're correct, kimberly is alive but she deserves much more empathy and respect, and that, is a tragedy.....

    1. Shadesbreath profile image89
      Shadesbreathposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You should look up "melodramatic." It might help you figure out how that stuff works.

      If you think what happens on a website warrants such grand language as "injustice" and "horrific" mistreatment, then, well, it's like, have you ever even been outside? You know, where real life happens, like, in a realer way than Internet "real" life?

      Kimberly has no need of my support, shallow or otherwise. I think she has even less need of fawning toadies writhing about on the floor of a forum lamenting the great injustice and unspeakable "tragedy" that being kicked off an Internet site seems to stand for, at least that's how it sounds the way you tell it. You paint her such an innocent, such a helpless victim that, at least in your version, you have deprived her of any agency in her own life. Talk about disrespecting someone.

      Obviously HP has nothing to do with your life. You're averaging 3 hubs a year. How could it? So, given that, "community" on the Internet is abundant, why not find one you actually don't have enormous emotional issues with?

      There are chat rooms and forums everywhere. Since you have no vested interest in HP and their evil ways, there should be nothing keeping you here, given how horrific, blatantly unfair, shameful and tragically unjust it is. That's like sitting on an anthill and complaining when your butt gets bit. I mean, go on and cuss the ants if you like, but it doesn't look sensible to an outside observer after a while. That's all I'm saying.

      How is she not getting respect? You misinterpret  the fact that the bleeding angst of your overwrought post didn't bring in swarms of people instantly clamoring to extol her virtues as a lack of respect and empathy for her. A bad sales pitch is not the same as a bad product.

  7. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago

    I'm surprised and sorry that KL has left Hub Pages.
    She has been a huge part of my experience here, as I know she has others'.
    The Kimberly I know is a triumphant survivor of a woman (on and off HP).
    She's overcome a lot in her life to even get to HP.
    A big part of that (or so I thought) was tossing the victim mantle.

    1. bbnix profile image61
      bbnixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks again, everyone, for your empathy and support. By all means, contact her in whatever form that suits you.

      and MM, thank you as well. I would note, however, Kimberly as you alluded to never played the victim, and I can assure you, the level of abuse in her life has been nothing short of horrific, and this sweetheart, this true saint has really done very little as to bringing to light the vast majority of it, and has never played the victim, and much to the contrary, has used her experiences to help others.

      But I have no such qualms or restrictions. This "community" should know that Kimberly is in fact a saint, and please excuse my passion in this regard, for Kimberly has transformed my life and shown me depth of love and caring I've never in my 55 years known, and I'll spend the rest of my life standing up for her.

      thanks again,...

  8. Reality Bytes profile image92
    Reality Bytesposted 4 years ago

    Kimberly was my first follower, and first fan mail.

    Good Luck Kimberly  smile

  9. bbnix profile image61
    bbnixposted 4 years ago

    Thanks everyone.

    Unfortunately, james, Kimberly's Prey persona has been unfairly banned from the forums "for life".....any comments regarding that, where, obviously, Kimberly's never had bad intentions, let alone deserve to be subject to such harshness for probably just having fun....  Would be very much appreciated.

    Hell even murderers in this world are often given a second chance..."for life"...really?

    1. jacharless profile image81
      jacharlessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      From what I gather there are quite a fistful of Hubbers given life sentences, among them now are Ray (Cagsil), Mark [the Borg] Knowles, Randy Godwin etc. Even Brenda Durham and Deborah Sexton, to name a few. and given the nature of programming, even secondary accounts would be effected.

      Is it a silly, over-exemplary use of power? Probably. But it is a privately controlled site, so not much can be done. And even a public -or private- apologetic, at this stage would be fruitless.

      On the positive -because that's me: upward and onward. I suspect Kimberly is far from downtrodden about the situation, but no doubt disappointed {understating the obvious}. More power to her for taking it on the chin and being her usual visionary self. smile


  10. bbnix profile image61
    bbnixposted 4 years ago

    Its absolutely amazing how one person can launch an all out one sided, off tangency war and attack and continue to completely miss the point.

    As far as assertions as to the character, experience, knowledge, and trials of someone a person knows absolutely nothing about, is ridiculous, if not ubsurd.

    Everyone here gets the point, we'll all miss Kimberly greatly, who, admirably, never attacked a soul, even though constantly targeted for nothing but being wonderfully extroverted and obtuse....not to mention, a hell of a lot of fun...

    We love you, Kimberly..godspeed my dear friend..

    1. bbnix profile image61
      bbnixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I'm sorry, I stand corrected, a couple people completely missed the point.....

    2. Shadesbreath profile image89
      Shadesbreathposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I agree it is amazing that you continue to miss the point, so I'm glad you realize at least that much. Perhaps there's still hope.

      So, I'll try again: you do understand that she's not been exiled from Earth, marooned on an island or anything else that will put her out of reach, right? It's just this one website. One out of millions and millions. And, as I understand it, she is doing famously. Be happy.

      1. Denise Handlon profile image88
        Denise Handlonposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I love KL and her work...she's a woman of her own mind and choices, and certainly understands the consequences of all of her actions.  NOT a victim and the painting of her as one is just way off the mark. 

        I agree with Shadesbreath, bbnix.  Although your intentions here are to hold Kimmie up as the person that you adore, the tone of the thread is coming across, (to me), as a scolding that people are not falling in line and leaving comments of adoration.

        I enjoyed KL's work, her humor and her audacity.  I love that she has her book published and wish her well on her continued journey.  I also happen to think that when the nest becomes too small and uncomfortable to fit into it's time to fly-that's what I feel she has done.

        Sorry, if you feel she has abandoned HP or that HP hubbers have abandoned her.   And, while I agree that it was important to point out her absence-I did not realize this and certainly appreciate it, I don't think that Shadesbreath, or ANYONE else, (myself included), has missed 'the point' of this forum despite your opinion, just because we dare to disagree with your intentions.

        Shadesbreath-your comments of pointing out a particular repeating thread through this forum and offer a different reality are on the mark.  Whether they are accepted is irrelevant.  Thanks for having the compassion to do so.

  11. mythbuster profile image84
    mythbusterposted 4 years ago

    I didn't see a need to post here prior to now because I have kept in touch with KL outside of this site. I am sorry to see her leave HP and wish she had been treated better while still here. Mostly I haven't known what to say on this matter and am still processing what I know of the matter.

  12. kathleenkat profile image91
    kathleenkatposted 4 years ago

    I tend to recognize other users via their picture. I unfortunately do not know who this thread is about, however, probably would if I knew the picture. Could somebody shed some light?

    Also, some mention of "perma-bans." What do you have to do to get banned from HubPages?

  13. Green Bard profile image90
    Green Bardposted 4 years ago

    I'll just say that I am sorry to see her go!

  14. kirstenblog profile image78
    kirstenblogposted 4 years ago

    Sure wont be as fun round here without our Kimberly!