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Hubpages on Monster.com as a career?

  1. Steve West profile image87
    Steve Westposted 4 years ago

    I think you are wasting the time of some good people looking for a job by posting on Monster. You are also misleading folks by making them think they can support themselves, even partially with HP even though you mention they cannot near the end of the advertisement. You use examples of folks that did well on HP when there was more traffic and earnings potential over five years ago.
    People today want honesty and transparency. You are not providing either by soliciting writers on Monster.com, a career website. This is my opinion only. I am not looking for an argument. Thank you.

    1. Haunty profile image83
      Hauntyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Writing on HubPages is not a job.

      1. Arox profile image60
        Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        It's rather a time-waster.

        1. Repairguy47 profile image60
          Repairguy47posted 4 years ago in reply to this

          According to your profile you have wasted 2 hours.

          1. Arox profile image60
            Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            That's why I said that, specifically.

            1. Repairguy47 profile image60
              Repairguy47posted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Now two hours and 5 minutes.

              1. Arox profile image60
                Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                That's less than 24 hours or 15 months. I waste time wisely.

                1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                  Repairguy47posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  But I waste time with style.

                  1. Arox profile image60
                    Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Less wise, and possibly obsessive.

          2. Drive By Quipper profile image60
            Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            You have wasted over a year.

            1. Repairguy47 profile image60
              Repairguy47posted 4 years ago in reply to this

              But it hasn't been a waste.

              1. Drive By Quipper profile image60
                Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                How much money have you made? Blathering away on forums is a waste.

                1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                  Repairguy47posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  As you blather away on forums. I haven't made any money, I am not here to make money.

                  1. Drive By Quipper profile image60
                    Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    If you were, it would be a waste.

        2. prospectboy profile image90
          prospectboyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Not everyone on Hubpages writes solely for money. If you enjoy writing and view it as a hobby, then it's not a time waster.

          1. Arox profile image60
            Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            And we get 2 dollars per year as well (occasionally).

            1. prospectboy profile image90
              prospectboyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              I don't know about you, but I'm not earning 2 dollars per year. It's seems that you're only worried about the monetary benefits that could come with Hubpages, so I can see how writing on here would be a waste of time for you.

              1. IzzyM profile image87
                IzzyMposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                If you are earning less than $2 a year, is anyone reading your hubs?

              2. Arox profile image60
                Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this
          2. IzzyM profile image87
            IzzyMposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Ah but what you say is not what Hubpages is about.

            I found them when looking for a way to make money online.

            They were a way to make money online, but I had to learn how to first.

            Sad in a way, but by the time I had learned how to do it, I had a small gap of months to enjoy success before HP got slapped to Kingdom Come by Google.

            If I just wanted to just write, I'd have made a blog.

            NOW, however, it would seem that HP is being dragged down by those who write as a hobby.

            Many many hubs here are substandard because the writer never targeted an audience, never targeted keywords.
            Just wrote something that made sense but which would never be found by searchers and will never achieve maximum exposure to what could be an appreciative audience.

            THAT is what you need to know to write online.

            HP is a business. It is their business to provide the platform, to make rules, and to allow hobbyist writers an easy way to get published.

            It can only work if the writers actually write for on online audience.

            1. Arox profile image60
              Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Free tenancy. Is it?

    2. derek gulbranson profile image80
      derek gulbransonposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I wondered the same thing so I reached out personally to people that sign up for HubPages from the ad on Monster.com They have said they do not feel cheated or disappointed with the HubPages experience. They are generally happy to find any opportunity to make money doing what they love, writing. Their other options typically pay less and force them to write about things they do not know or care about. On HubPages, at least they can write about things they are interested in and they retain ownership of that content.

      1. aykianink profile image61
        aykianinkposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        *nods at Derek* Aye.

      2. IzzyM profile image87
        IzzyMposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Thank you Derek, for that input.

        Your whole post says more about you as a person with real feelings towards real people, than as a representative of an organization spouting out the company line.

        When I joined HP I was desperate to learn how to make money online. But I was also a wannabe writer.

        I've had stuff published, but did not consider myself a real writer.

        It did worry me that HP posted adverts online in such a manner. It could have given people the wrong idea.

        HP, or rather the community here on HP, have taught me how to write online.

        This improves our ability to become successful freelance writers.

        I am frankly shocked at the standard of writing of many of those here who say they are successful freelancers.

        HP brings us all together. It also gives each one of us an insight into writing online in general.

        I can't think of another site which could do that to the same extent, at least none that were around when HP first started.

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        GoldenThreadPressposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I agree with Derek Gulbranson. I had seen HubPages on Monster.com well over a year ago and the idea stuck with me throughout that time until I joined in late August. Make no mistake that the writing is grueling at times and the hours long, but I can honestly say that I have met quite a number of great Hubbers, learned a lot from their wisdom (as well as from the HP Staff) and got super tips to make my job easier. I haven't even mentioned being a part of a great community or becoming a better writer because of it.

        Is HubPages for everyone? No. No more than any other job would be to a bunch of candidates. That being said, there are those who are doing well on HubPages. They know that it takes time and hard work to get to the point of drawing income. And, know that for some, this is just a place to enjoy writing and meeting other writers. It isn't and shouldn't be considered a quick job/quick buck scenario. However, if one is a writer and wants to dabble in the world of online article writing, this is the best place to start.--Deb

        1. Drive By Quipper profile image60
          Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Just what I want. Long, grueling hours of writing for chump change.

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            GoldenThreadPressposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I've never known a job that didn't expect me to roll up my sleeves and work hard. Obviously, there are those who want an easy buck but not to put much time and energy into it. I have worked alongside so many print writers and they would agree with me that a writer's life may be grueling but that's the joy and pain of doing something you love. And, my words to anyone who wants a free handout: If you find it, more power to ya! Best Regards--Deb

            1. Drive By Quipper profile image60
              Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Nothing against hard work . . . just meager compensation for it. I do write freelance for print at 35 cents a word and up. 3600 words at $1 a word, and the grueling work is worth it. I do not get a steady flow, however, and I am exploring every option. Like you, I love to write!

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                GoldenThreadPressposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Then put your expertise to work and write a Hub. There are millions of niches to be filled on the Internet and perhaps you have something that will be worth sharing. No harm in giving it a try. Besides, you might just like being here. Best Regards, Deb

                1. Drive By Quipper profile image60
                  Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Thanks. you are very sweet.

    3. bravewarrior profile image94
      bravewarriorposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Steve, I found HP thru Monster.com.  Yeah, it was a misleading ad, but I don't regret coming into this community in the least.  It has led to great friendships, advice and my decision to quit the rat race in favor of my passion.

  2. Arox profile image60
    Aroxposted 4 years ago

    "at least they can write about things they are interested in and they retain ownership of that content."


    Hat off! No one is going to rob all those recipes!

    1. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      See, your time here has not been wasted!

      1. Arox profile image60
        Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        That one is called non-modified conservation of energy.

  3. Arox profile image60
    Aroxposted 4 years ago

    Happy to hear how hub pages has taught some people SEO, and that they would have spent thousands of dollars in tuitions fees hadn't HubPages taught you that. For their knowledge, there are other venues and people who do that same charity.

    1. IzzyM profile image87
      IzzyMposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Now get it right Arox.

      I didn't say Hubpages taught me SEO.

      I said the community here on HP taught me, and many others, I suspect.

      Once learned, we can go anywhere and make money online. We are not tied by our apron strings to HP.

      I just like HP. I like being here, even without traffic.

      1. Arox profile image60
        Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        It seems Hub Pages remains after one excludes the community,

  4. Arox profile image60
    Aroxposted 4 years ago

    "That's factually true, but in practice, I think it's still misleading.

    Most outsiders, reading those income figures for 2011, would assume the "success" Hubbers were earning even more today, because their portfolio of Hubs has grown.  Without the graphs, there's nothing to counter that misconception.

    HubPages should update the stats to 2012, otherwise they are deliberately giving potential recruits the wrong idea."


    http://hubpages.com/forum/post/2210363

  5. Gary Holdaway profile image81
    Gary Holdawayposted 4 years ago

    There is no scam or misleading information to do with hub pages. You can earn money, but you have to know what you are doing on a massive scale. For most people it's about the opportunity to share what they know and get involved in a large community. Somebody who only signed up looking for a get rich quick scheme has not only joined under false pretences, but is completely disillusioned by the internet.

  6. Arox profile image60
    Aroxposted 4 years ago

    Good God! We must rejoice by the fact that some people are still under the illusion.

    1. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I would have to agree with you that not many make money on hubpages. But you gotta ask yourself, who cares?

      1. Arox profile image60
        Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Those who make the real profit over people's illusions.

        1. Repairguy47 profile image60
          Repairguy47posted 4 years ago in reply to this

          You seem to care, if you don't like it after all the time you put into it why are you still here?

          1. Arox profile image60
            Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            You seem to guess.

            1. Gary Holdaway profile image81
              Gary Holdawayposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Of course, HubPages as a company  makes a lot of money. If you want to, you set up an equivalent website. If not, get over it. Write and enjoy it or look up PTC websites that give you $5.00 a click.... I'm sure you'll get lots of luck there.

  7. psycheskinner profile image82
    psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago

    It is my understanding that the job listings are not generally made by Hupages, but by people trying to earn from their affiliate links.

    I make $2 a day not a year, but still would not see it as something that could be listed as a real job.

    That said, the greatest waste of time would seem to be time spent trolling the forums of a content site you don't even write for or respect on any level.

    1. Drive By Quipper profile image60
      Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I guess not.

      1. Arox profile image60
        Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this
    2. Arox profile image60
      Aroxposted 4 years ago

      I haven't yet met a troll on Hub Pages. It's a clean site.

    3. kathleenkat profile image89
      kathleenkatposted 4 years ago

      That's how I found HubPages.

      The ad specifically states that this is a part-time, supplemental-income job, and by no means should anyone expect to support themselves on it.

      1. Drive By Quipper profile image60
        Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        To be more accurate, they should just say, "Write for chump change and have fun blathering on forums."

      2. Arox profile image60
        Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Really?

        1. kathleenkat profile image89
          kathleenkatposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Yes. At least that was the information given to me in the ad I saw back in, uh... I don't remember. Sometime early this year. I didn't actually sign up until like 3 months after I saw the ad (I had forwarded it to someone I know who loves to write, then when I had the time to write myself, I signed up).

          Actually I think the ad I saw was on Careerbuilder; but that's pretty much the same kind of thing. Probably the same exact ad went on Monster.

    4. Arox profile image60
      Aroxposted 4 years ago

      The ad:  "a stay-at-home mother of 8 earns 1/3 of her household income ($3800) passively from HubPages"

      http://hubpages.com/success/

      1. Drive By Quipper profile image60
        Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        That can happen. It is all about generating traffic. If you aren't good at that, then it is a bust.

        1. Arox profile image60
          Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Do you consider $3800 (per month) to be passive income? Did you see the paycheck?

          Even they hide the fact that the figure $3800 is an average.

          1. Drive By Quipper profile image60
            Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            It is passive income because it is residual from a previous effort. Passive income is earned from an investment. Romney makes millions in passive income. The lady must know SEO, have a very extensive social network and been around for years. She probably got a lot of people to sign up and stuck her tracking link on everything that moves.

            Now, if you are a writer looking to get a good return for well written articles, there are better avenues.

            1. Arox profile image60
              Aroxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Which ones? Don't start about Harry Potter.

              1. Drive By Quipper profile image60
                Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Most internet writing sites are micro-payout content farms. It would be better to start your own. I am doing that. HubPages is a good place to learn how. Once you get the hubs up, you can always link back to them from elsewhere. It is one of the benefits, in my opinion. Unless you go Adobe Muse the format here is typical, so you will be up to speed when you go to a host that uses this nasty Rupal based program for layout and publishing.

                Print is the best way to go to make money. The competition is almost overwhelming. Go ahead and include a SASE, you still won't hear back. No one wants finished manuscripts anymore, and it is hard to sell with a cover letter and some tear sheets. Editors are not impressed by hubs. You need your own site.

                1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image94
                  TIMETRAVELER2posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  I challenge anybody to get the kind of online writing training you get at HP for free anyplace else.  We may not make fortunes here, but the education is worth plenty.  My writing skills have improved dramatically since I joined HP and I am ever grateful for that.  I have never considered HP a waste of time.

                  1. Drive By Quipper profile image60
                    Drive By Quipperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    There is a lot that can be learned here. The international exchange is cool, too.

    5. kathleenkat profile image89
      kathleenkatposted 4 years ago

      I find it not surprising at all that the people bashing HubPages on this thread don't seem to be producing very much on HubPages.

      My mistake. I should have examined the post closer, before I replied.

      1. Gary Holdaway profile image81
        Gary Holdawayposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Very much on the same train of thought as myself. I don't know why I get involved in these sometimes. Waste of time, Waste of typing time. I'm just happy that I made $3.00 in a week, just writing in my spare time. When I get my $50.00 cheque, it's not gonna change my life, but I'll be damned proud.

     
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