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   Ericdierkerposted 11 years ago

   HubPages Earnings Program Update: Ad Program earnings for November 20 are still pending. We will have the data updated shortly. Thanks for your patience!
   
   That is posted on the 26th. Now what kind of starving artist/writer can survive with that kind of payout accounting.

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      lady rainposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Seriously, that doesn't bother me at all because I get payout at the end of the month

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      Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      They are waiting for Adsense and/or Ebay to report.

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      paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, I think that has been resolved and they just forgot to take down the sign.

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         mattforteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Not necessarily. Often times the message is up but my earnings have been updated, while my girlfriend's earnings have not.
         
         
         That said...if you are a "starving artist/writer" relying on when HubPages is going to report your earnings..then gtfo. I currently relocated, and looking for work..struggling with bills until I find a new job. I could give a rat's ass when the earnings are updated. My paycheck will come when it comes. Don't talk down on their business practices just because the system doesn't cater to your obsessive compulsive checking of the stats page.

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            paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Interesting! I wonder what the differentiation is. If you compare your accounts, maybe you can tell?

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            galleryofgraceposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            FYI- it's not obsessive compulsive! It's at the top of the page whenever you open your account! You stand corrected.

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   psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

   Payout isn't affected by the delays. They always arrive on the same day of the month regardless.

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      Ericdierkerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Let me be succinct, please.  Excuses for bad management is all I have heard.
      That is cool. But if they cannot manage my little tiny account how do you trust them to manage important ones of deal with google?

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         psycheskinnerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         They are managing it just fine.  How many content sites, or online businesses at all, work in perfect real time--even when the people paying them don't.  That would be kind of impossible.

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         mattforteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         "ones of deal with google." is all I hear.
         
         Don't criticize a writing website if your grammar doesn't even make sense.

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   christopherantonposted 11 years ago

   Eric is right. If someone goes to the trouble of writing an article, then posting it on a site in order to earn some revenue, that person is entitled to see regular and reliable updates on his level of earnings.
   Repeated excuses just don't "cut the mustard".

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      mattforteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      x2.
      This has nothing to do with management. If EPC has not yet been reported, then they can not give you an amount.
      
      ALSO - this has nothing to do with "excuses" and everything to do with useless daily reports. Give me one reason a person should REQUIRE an exact daily amount? This is one of the stupidest gripes I've ever heard on this site. If you don't like it...go somewhere else.
      
      
      Which brings me to...

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   Healthy Pursuitsposted 11 years ago

   HubPages can't control payouts from Amazon and ebay. I don't find it a problem which 24 hours they update my stats as long as I receive the payout when I should. So far, that hasn't been a problem.

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   2uesdayposted 11 years ago

   It does not bother me as I have seen it before and know that it will get sorted in time.
   
   What the others said really plus in the past it has been pointed out that if they publish numbers and then they go down people complain.
   
   I am picture myself as a tiny pebble on a beach with lots of other pebbles, the bigger the beach the more pebbles they have to count.

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   mattforteposted 11 years ago

   On second thought. I have a solution.
   
   I think HubPages, to resolve this issue...should do away with the estimated earnings entirely. Don't tell us how much we've earned until the entire month is finalized. That won't change my earnings one bit...BUT it will completely eliminate this case of whining and griping.
   Of course, you will have to find something else to cry about, but then at least we will know you simply need something to criticize HP for.
   
   Or you will go create a website and write a blog on your own, since you seem to know so much about how the system does/should work.

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      Ericdierkerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Matt for your interesting answers.

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   GoodLadyposted 11 years ago

   Try living in Italy!  Sometimes you don't get paid at all.  Sometimes you have to take a reduction.  Sometimes your company goes bankrupt.  Freelance work is paid after 90 days very often.
   Waiting a few days for payment seems a luxury!

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      Ericdierkerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I was truly not caring so much about the delay, as much as the notice. I think Matt probably hit the nail on the head, they should do away with the notice. Or they could move it to a insignificant spot. Otherwise I might obsess over it. By the way I have never received a single penny from HP.

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         SmartAndFunposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         With 123 hubs, not a penny? That is surprising to me. I see you have only been here 6 months, though. It does take time to build up momentum. Are you here for the money or just for fun? (I think many of us are here for both.) If you're here mainly for the money, there are strategies you can employ to help you get more views, more ad clicks and more Amazon sales.

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            psycheskinnerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I agree, with 123 hubs and average performance you should be closing in on a monthly payment.

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         psycheskinnerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Because this data is sometimes delayed or adjusted you don't want to see it.  Well, honestly, for you the solution would be to not look at it.
         
         I do want to see it because the 90% of the time it is accurate and on time  is helpful to me.

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   Victoria Lynnposted 11 years ago

   Not a penny? That doesn't make sense. If your hubs are being read, you should be getting paid for impressions through HubPages, regardless of how Google or Amazon or eBay are doing.

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      DrMark1961posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Actually I think that is the point--he has a lot of hubs and they are not being read. Instead of worrying about fifteen or twenty cents, I would be on a forum shouting "why is no one reading my hubs? what is wrong?"

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         Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly!

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         Ericdierkerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Victoria and Dr.Mark excellent point. But I do not do shouting very well ;-)
         
         I am ready to move into a phase to increase my traffic. I think I will ask your question.

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   donotfearposted 11 years ago

   Why are some of you quibbling?   It's like digging for suspicious darts to blow at Hubpages staff.
   It just seems ridiculous to give so much attention to something so trivial.

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      psycheskinnerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Compared to some threads on this forum this one is positively profound.

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         SmartAndFunposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I agree with this statement, also! LOL! 

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      SmartAndFunposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I agree.

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      Ericdierkerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So sorry for quibbling but I sure have learned a lot. Perhaps the only dumb question is the one we did not ask.

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