Panda update coming Friday or Monday

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ilscherzoposted 11 years ago
I'm getting increased traffic at the moment, though it could be a statistical variation due to the small number of hubs I have.
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  wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Mine doesn't seem to have changed a bit. I'll that that as a good sign, though....
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sabrebIadeposted 11 years ago
We are only down 5% in page views and March 15th page views were higher than Febuary 15th.
It also looks like we are on the verge of the upswing of the roller coaster we are on (which I still have not figured out).
https://www.quantcast.com/hubpages.com
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Daughter Of Maatposted 11 years ago
Looks like Panda's update hit yesterday.

http://searchengineland.com/google-pand … hit-151732

True to the article, my numbers are not as low as they usually are after an update which I'm quite grateful for, and it looks like this update may have "found" a couple of my hubs that have previously not done well in search results.

It looks like future panda updates won't be announced, but they also won't be as noticeable. They're going to incorporate them into their normal algo updates... yay....

lol
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paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago
I don't know if I'm doomed or it's just another one of my typical Saturdays.
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Paul Edmondsonposted 11 years ago
I can see things bouncing around a bit, but total traffic from goog is very close to last Saturday. Nothing significant to report...
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brakel2posted 11 years ago
@2bsure. eHow offered me a pitiful price. I took my articles back. Helium was worse than EHow
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  2besureposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I was making a little over $ 600 a month. They gave me a little over $13,936. I remember because I made a copy of the check, (in color). It is about 2 years salary or less. After that, they became a magazine and they went to the top of Google. That money is long gone and they are still making money off the articles. The choice was easy to sell the articles. It was only because of their platform, I was able to make that kind on money. If I had taken them an put them on a blog, I would have never made that kind of money.
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prettydarkhorseposted 11 years ago
And yet ehow still ranks 12th right now (Top Sites in the US - Quantcast)

Squidoo 78th
Hubpages 79th

http://www.quantcast.com/top-sites-1
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Not sure what kind of time frame Quantcast uses for "top sides", do they do it on a daily basis? That would probably not be very useful for sites. Anyway we might need to wait a bit to see changes in site rankings.
  
  If my traffic is a general reflection of things, I think HP will overtake the Squid. My traffic here is doing very well for a Saturday, my Squidoo traffic is devastated. It is about 50% of what it was last week.
  
  But one thing that seems to be happen is that a site might be really slapped by a Panda, but then quickly recover some of their previous traffic. This happened to HP after panda20, I think Google do corrections to the initial update.
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  Rock_njposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Didn't it take HubPages about 6 months to recover from the early 2011 panda update? That's what the Quantcast data indicates. If Squidoo takes a hit, it could only help HubPages in the searches. When I am randomly searching for information, I come across HubPages articles more often than Squidoo articles in Google.
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yep, and I think it took the move to subdomains to recover. But more recently I have seen rebounding faster from slaps. Squidoo is taking steps to improve its content, including deleting whole accounts that are too commercial. We will see how well that works. I must say there is a lot less complaining on their forums than there would have been here.
  
  Squidoo reminds me a bit of the banking crash in 2008. Everybody was commenting on how "spammy" their pages were starting to look with all the Amazon links with very thin content, and a lot of advertising, but rather than put a stop to that, they were pretty much egging people on to produce "sales pages". It was like they thought they were invulnerable.
  
  Now that Google has noticed, we are suddenly all back at Seth Godin's original vision.
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  prettydarkhorseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Time frame is last month.
  
  If you compare long time stats of HP and Squidoo, you will notice that after the holidays, the line graph (slope) of Squidoo is decreasing consistently meaning they are losing views while Hubpages is stable (slope is near constant).
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  Rock_njposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  An eHow article gave me incorrect information about how to change a front headlight on a Honda Accord. I do use eHow, but take it with a grain of salt, and always cross check the information that site provides, as it clearly isn't written by experts.
  
  I agree that even now with Penguin and Panda implemented, a lot of Google results are pure junk, and yet a lot of quality writing on HubPages gets buried.
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  prettydarkhorseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Not only that they do have answers to everything which makes it funny at times like - How to Skin a Cat, How to Scratch an Itchy Skin (duh, jk), How to Get Rid of Dry Skin on Cats, How to Scratch a Leg in a Cast.
  
  That is what happens when there is open publication. With the now implemented "QAP" assessment, hopefully things will change. It can never become perfect because if G can't get it, sites can't get it too.
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  2besureposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I just hope Hubpage doesn't go the way of Ehow, and stop the writing program. There were people at eHow making thousands of dollars a month.
  
  We though we were going to retire, and still have that source of income. In the agreement it said, we would continue to receive revenue from our articles, as long as we live. If I knew I was going to be offered a big payout, I would have written a lot more.
  
  Articles originally posted immediately, when they were closing the program (we didn't know it then) they went to the pre-approval method. Then they started holding up new articles for days and weeks, so they wouldn't post. They claimed they were having technical problems. We writers tried to get answers,but no one would respond. eHow was so deceptive. The writers were demoralized and so depressed.
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  Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, for the good old days. It's possible eHow believed that, too - it must have seemed like a gravy train that couldn't fail at one time. It's much harder to make money with a rev-sharing site now, and all the sites seem to be changing the rules regularly, to try to stay afloat.
  
  Helium is probably the worst, because you can't delete your articles, and you can't earn money from them if you're not active - so even if you're unhappy with changes they make, you can't walk away. The featured/idle process on HubPages and the tier system on Squidoo mean that neither of those sites is truly passive income now, either. I'm not sure any rev-sharing site is truly passive any more, because of the rule changes: I wrote a few articles on Zujava a while ago - when I went back to check on them, I found they were all de-indexed because they contravened rules introduced after I'd written them.
  
  Plus, of course, there's always the risk they'll go out of business altogether. I wrote on Today.com for a while. Luckily I joined late, but some people were highly successful there. Then the owners decided to sell their domain name to the Today program (for thousands of dollars). Of course, the Today program didn't want the content, so it all disappeared overnight. The owners moved it to a new domain - but they didn't bother to negotiate any forwarding of the old URL's. That meant all the backlinks were lost, and all the subscriptions stopped working. I think the new site lasted about six months.
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  2besureposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Writing for eHow was great for a while, All you have to do is write a 200 word article and make money. Nothing lasts for ever, huh? I wrote for Today.com at the end to. At that time, I asked them to removed my articles and they did. I have found out you always have to have a backup plan.
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Greekgeekposted 11 years ago
Since traffic drops on most sites over the weekend, it will be hard to dig much out of Quantcast data for a week. Google seems to LOVE doing Friday updates (or multiple different algo updates) so as to make it harder to reverse engineer whatever they've changed.
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Gcrhoads64posted 11 years ago
I've had a really good day, but I haven't been here long. It may be that Google is just finding me.
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Paul Edmondsonposted 11 years ago
From our end, we haven't seen any significant site wide google changes this weekend...
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  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Seems to be a non-event for me as well...
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  janderson99posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hurrah! Well done!
  Two Cheers! (saving one for when the traffic goes up)
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  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this
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  janderson99posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  QAP QAP QAP
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  PaulGoodman67posted 11 years agoin reply to this
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's great news! Mine doesn't seem hugely different from a 'normal' weekend, but the numbers seem stuck a bit - the accounts page says it was updated 19 minutes ago, but the numbers are the same (guess that's possible). Anyway - it's great news for the site!
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rhonda-ryanposted 11 years ago
They are not going to confirm this. Panda is going to be part of regular Google algo..
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Paul Maplesdenposted 11 years ago
Has anyone heard any news about what the update *did* affect? I had a look around but couldn't find any concrete information, anyone heard any whisperings?
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  SimeyCposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Looks like Squidoo continues to be hit...
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donotfearposted 11 years ago
It took 8 weeks to recover from the last one....

Rats.
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sabrebIadeposted 11 years ago
God I REALLY hate to say anything and jinx it but let's just say my traffic here is normal (maybe up slightly) and on the other site it has tanked.
It's like one site is a serene Zen garden and the other is the free-for-all at the end of Blazing Saddles.
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  Rock_njposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  It sounds as if HubPages is doing something right in Google's eyes. If another competing site like Squidoo gets slapped by Google, it can only help HubPages articles rise in the Google rankings.
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  jacharlessposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  HP seems steady as she goes and squidoo took a sharp hit, according to quantcast and seomoz.
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  To be honest, I see it more as a case of Squidoo has been a bad, bad site lately, rather than HubPages doing "something right".
  
  Squidoo has been due a google slap for a while (and I've started having some success on Squidoo so I am not saying this with any kind of satisfaction). They'd avoided the big Panda punishment but then went overboard with spammy lenses that were basically nothing but lists of Amazon products, they've recently had an explosion (apparently) of people publishing spun lenses, and they have too much advertising.
  
  I am relieved that HP hasn't been affected, but traffic is much lower than a year ago. HP hasn't really improved from the traffic we were bitterly complaining about, so I don't see it as a cause for celebration yet. But at the end of last year I stopped writing here to put up lenses on Squidoo. I am not wondering about bringing these lenses over here.
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  Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  +1. There seems to be no increase in HP traffic corresponding to Squidoo dips over the last months. Google is not redirecting traffic this way.
  
  It is interesting to read the Squidoo forums because they sound like HP did a while ago.
  
  But people get used to a drop in traffic. Any miniscule improvement is supposedly a victory.
  
  I wonder where HP and Squidoo go from here?
  
  If thousands, millions? of pages have been idled ahead of that Panda update then to be honest, I had been hoping for something a bit better.
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  wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Somewhere I caught that some 140,000 hubs were removed, but don't know how true that is. Just as important, though is how many were never published at all and we have no idea of what that number might be.
  
  Like you, I had hoped for something better, but I guess there's no real indication that this updated was focused on that anyway. If (if) Squidoo was slapped for overly promotional that may have been the thrust. Or even just a directed slap at Squidoo or something else the Squids are doing.
  
  So we wait, and I'm tired of waiting!
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  sabrebIadeposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  LOL..yep Mark I have seen you over there and yes you are right, they do sound like HP did.
  You have people accusing other people of being the reason Google slapped them, then others saying there was no Google slap at all...everything is fine.
  HQ swinging wildly at anything that moves, rather than nailing the true culprits.
  Greekgeek has pretty much summed up what is wrong but it seems that HQ wants to try the scorched earth policy instead.
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  ilscherzoposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  My traffic has upped so much since Friday that my Hubber score bumped up by 7 points, from the 80 it had stayed at for ages.
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ologsinquitoposted 11 years ago
My traffic has also tanked on another site, but not here. It also seems OK on another site I just started writing for.
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ocbillposted 11 years ago
Not much has changed from what I see. I still see low quality search results in certain large niches which is why people are switching to Bing and maybe why Google has their hands in many areas.
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gmwilliamsposted 11 years ago
My hubber score is the lowest ever.......I am really depressed.
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  OMG you've fallen below 90! What did you do, beat somebody up?
  
  Truthfully I've never seen any rhyme or reason to hubber scores, not sure why they still keep showing em tbh.
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Ha! I've just noticed my score's gone up! Not sure what I'm doing talking to riff-raff like you.
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That is NOT a low score! As has been said in numerous threads, ignore the Hubber score!
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Paul Edmondsonposted 11 years ago
@Mark Ewbie That's a really good question. For the most part we think Google is treating the subdomains independently so I don't think we are likely to see all boats rise quickly from a Panda update. But, we may be able to help Hubs do better more quickly with the tweaks we are doing.

From a site wide perspective, we are tuning the QAP. That should reduce poor content from going in to google's index as well as give good stuff a longer opportunity to catch on.

We also need to get through the backlog. It's a substantial project to figure out which Hubs get rated first to subtle differences in how the system handles edits vs new content. In theory, the more content we remove, the more link juice is concentrated on fewer Hubs and it may help those Hubs over time. Also, as more good Hubs are created, those then benefit the existing Hubs. When it's working well, it's a pretty powerful cycle.

We also want to see Google remove the pages we no indexed. This seems to be taking months in some cases. I think google has digested less than 50% of the changes. So, we are working on some tests to see if we can influence that a bit more. We are doing some things with xml sitemaps and html sitemaps to see how they impact crawling and getting Google to drop pages more quickly.

After we get these changes through, I think it will take about three months to see if the good content starts to ascend more quickly and to see if we stop feeling Panda changes.

All in all, I feel pretty good now. It is just going to take a bit of time to see how it all comes out.
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  Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks for that reply Paul.
  
  This is going to sound class creepy but one of things that amazes me is how you and Simone, and others, find time to touch your customers, especially when they can be awkward so-and-sos.
  
  Here's hoping it all works out OK.
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  janderson99posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I have a new theory - Freshness above the fold!
  I wonder how much of the boost in traffic for sites that consolidate their contents is simply due to the removal of the old stuff ( not edited in the last 6 months ). I have several large websites and I have noticed that the newer ones do better. Freshness is definitely a factor for the new G. Oddly the idling may have a two fold benefit - removal of low quality stuff + pages getting edited by their authors ( adds a dash of freshness, especially above the fold - sounds like deodorant ??). I think G is looking for 'living' stuff that gets updated.
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  This at least makes the whole pending thing seem more sensible. If bad pages take so long to get clear of Google's index, you really don't want them in the system at all.
  
  Makes me think it is worthwhile filing an URL removal request when I delete a page, as well.
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Paul Edmondsonposted 11 years ago
Updating content is very healthy. Think of the wiki model where they ideally get frequent incremental improvements. Editing does help.

I'm pretty sure, google's initial advice of either improve content, no index it, or remove it still holds true for Panda.
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WriteAngledposted 11 years ago
On the other hand, my best earning web site has not been touched for about six months...
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  janderson99posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  In my case, my websites are 1, 3 and 4 years old.
  I think beyond 6 months, G starts to consider the site/pages are getting stale.
  What to do? I think making changes above the fold may help - in my case I'm talking of 5,000 pages! A hell of a job!
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ologsinquitoposted 11 years ago
Thank you for the update. I am optimistic with how things are going. Recently, someone else on another forum on another site reported a positive change in earnings on HP.
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Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago
Eenie, meenie, miney, moe, catch HubPages by the toe. If it hollers let it go.........! My lowest profile score since I first joined 4 years ago. Sucko.......!

This is working out really well.......
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  gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Haha, so is mine. Dip, dip, diiiiiiipppp.......So utterly depressing.
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intelpagesposted 11 years ago
So anyone else notice anything out of the ordinary?
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  Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I did notice something! It got dark after the sun went down tonight! Eureka!
  
  My score remains the same, however, views are up a tad for today. Will wait it out with high expectations the the views will continue to climb.
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Winterfateposted 11 years ago
My traffic seems to be about normal, within a 5% tolerance range. It's kind of hard to gauge whether my traffic is up because of Panda or because of the day (Monday night/Tuesday morning). I'm looking at my Analytics account and not my stats on this site, since they sometimes freeze during the early hours before sunrise.

I sincerely hope that everyone who is losing traffic because of this Panda gets it back ASAP. I suffered through a Google slap about a year and it stinks, to say the least.
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SmartAndFunposted 11 years ago
Over the weekend my views always dip down, pretty much like everyone else, but this past weekend they were a little lower than usual. Today they've been slowly working their way back up.
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Savio Dawsonposted 11 years ago
Whatever Panda did or did not do, my views only increased in the last couple of days.... So, good for me.... Bring 'em on... :-)
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gmwilliamsposted 11 years ago
Panda is killing me.........killing me.............killing meeeeee..............My score is the LOWEST it has ever been in 3 years.
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Idling hubs are a joke! A useless program in my opinion. Google has no way to tell quality from garbage, at least, not at this point. I'm steadily deleting the idled hubs and can't wait till all my hubs are thus designated. Bring it on HP geniuses!
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I agree that Google can't tell quality from junk - but, as irked as I get to see them penalize sites that don't get search hits, I can somewhat understand trying to keep those pages from lowering traffic to the rest of the pages in a subdomain, or on a site.
  
  What I don't understand is how Google expects 'good' work to rise to the top if they rank according to Google searches - it's circular. That's how junk content will REMAIN on top. Go figure - how can you get hits if Google works hard to punish you for not getting them? At any rate, I understand why sites such as HP and others that have turned to 'idling' to help keep pages that get search hits ranked as high as possible. It's just a sin that Google still hasn't got it's act together in a way that raises quality to the top.
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  It's a hopeless system at this point, Marcy. Just HP going through the motions of doing something useful. Sad really.
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Do you have to encourage the picture posters?
  
  I honestly don't mind people posting nonsense, as long as it is their own nonsense.
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Ha Will! What about your nonsense?
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Len Cannonposted 11 years ago
I feel like we have a decent idea of how Google measures quality.

1. Spelling and Grammar/Pictures/Other media elements
2. Do people spend time on your page?
3. Do they click out to other pages or do they hit back?
4. If they do hit back, are they going to other search terms or did they find what they need?
5. Probably comments/etc. have a small effect as well as it shows
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I've always thought that spelling&grammar didn't have much of a role in the algo. I think they are there, one of over 200 signals considered, but not a major one.
  
  If I were Google I would look at spelling in two different ways. If a page was full of spelling or grammar errors, that would be a major factor against it, since it makes it a real hassle to decipher, and there is a high chance that the page is spam.
  
  However if the page has a few typos, I wouldn't hold it against it if the other signals were good.
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  Len Cannonposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I don't know that they will s***can your page just because of typos, but I am pretty confident they're very aware of them when it comes to determining what constitutes a "quality" page. I'm sure the veneer of professionalism goes a long way. Fake it until you make it, at least.
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paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

Well..., it's beginning to look "official"...

This week's Sat, Sun, Mon are considerably lower than my last week's Sat, Sun, Mon.

By this weekend I will decide what to do. Nothing definitive yet, but I'm reasonably sure that whatever I decide is going to be drastic and very not pretty.
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lorddraven2000posted 11 years ago
I am actually seeing an increase in traffic but a decrease in adsense revenue so that kind of sucks, but I guess we will just have to learn to adapt.
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Dale Hydeposted 11 years ago
Usually these updates hurt me, but I checked again this morning and my views are still up over the past three or so months for the past two days.... I hope it stays that way!
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PaulGoodman67posted 11 years ago
Squidoo has definitely taken a much worse hit this time (I have accounts there too). I hope that some of the anti-idlers at HP will take note. There (unfortunately) has to be some sort of quality control, even if it's crude, or the spinners will get a foothold and the site's credibility with Google will suffer.

The atmosphere here at HP seems sanguine. But there seems to be a degree of hysteria at Squidoo. No doubt it will die down with time, but I am fully expecting Squidoo to adopt stricter measures and rule changes.

HP seems ahead of the game at present and Squidoo is lingering behind. I personally want them both to do well!
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Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago
Doom and gloom! Or is it gloom and doom? Doom and doomer? Dumb and dumber?
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  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I see that you are feeling well and good.
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  It's always good to wake up alive in the morning, Para!
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  Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You wake up? lol!
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Nice to see you back on the forums Randy, they were not the same without you And I see that you've been busy making up rhymes. I always thought HP would be a good subject for a limerick or two.
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  There was once a site called HubPages
  Where spammers could spin for their wages
  Then Panda came
  And ended the game
  To the deep consternation of internet sages
  
  Ok this is totally crap but I just made it up this minute, and I have to go and sleep.
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  Jason Marovichposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Or this...
  
  Years from now, in much brighter times,
  prosperous Hubbers read our old rhymes,
  And wondered why anyone doubted,
  The Hub which now was so highly touted
  by Google, by Yahoo, and yes, even by Bing,
  that only a fool didn't see HubPages was king.
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  nice! but I don't think that's a limerick! Well you've got the rhymes, but I think the 3rd and 4th line are supposed to be much shorter. I'm sure there are technical terms for this.
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  Jason Marovichposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You're making me want to know how to write limericks, now. And poetry. And haiku. Dang.
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I think the basic rule is that it is made of 5 lines and the rhyming scheme is AABBA. Then there is some stuff about the metre (or rhythm or beat or whatever ppl call it). that I am totally ignorant about so I never do them right. But the 3rd and 4th lines are much shorter.
  
  This is what wikipedia has to say about them:
  
  The limerick packs laughs anatomical
  In space that is quite economical.
  But the good ones I've seen
  So seldom are clean
  And the clean ones so seldom are comical.
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  SimeyCposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  There was a young man from Uganda,
  Whose writing was wonderfully grandeur,
  His traffic was sublime,
  But sadly it’s a crime,
  As he got hit by the latest update of Panda
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Like!!!!
  
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I put my ideas in a bucket
  And each in a hub I then stuck it.
  My goal is a trip
  On plane, train or ship,
  To visit my aunt in Nantucket.
  
  Scared you for a minute, didn't it. No, I don't have an aunt living in You-Know-Where. Just wanted to see if I could write a clean limerick using That Word.
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  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  There was a young lady from Boston, Mass
  Who stood in the ocean up to her... ankles.
  It doesn't rhyme
  But in twelve hours, it will.
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Lol!
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  @aa--HP is always good for a laugh these days! And more than a laugh most others. Glad to be back!
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Dorsiposted 11 years ago
Nothing major to report here. After Panda and Penguin took 4,500 views a day away from me last year I'm down to about 500 views a day now. Holding steady at that so far.
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  Tealparadiseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's quite a hit! I didn't know the slap last year was so bad (new member obviously). Did you have any idea why your views were taken, or was it just because you were part of HP?
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  Dorsiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I still don't know why. I used to be golden in Googles eyes, everything I wrote pretty much sailed to the top of the first page of search. Even my first name was on the first page of search. Now I've been either sand-boxed or just took a big big hit.
  
  My traffic is down 200 more page views today. Ugh.
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  Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  No idea, really.
  
  All of us took a massive Google hit when the first Panda happened. That was before we had our own sub-domains, so clearly that was because we were part of HubPages. The whole site lost well over half its traffic.
  
  HubPages then spent a few months changing things, trying to recover. Nothing seemed to work, until they had the idea to split us up into sub-domains. Google looks at each sub-domain as though it were a separate website, so the good writers are "quarantined" from the spammers.
  
  When the sub-domains were first introduced, many Hubbers saw a big recovery - some (like me) were getting more traffic than ever before. However, it hasn't been a smooth ride. Some never recovered from the original Panda, while some recovered and then got slapped again. Some (like me) went on a roller coaster ride where their traffic soared for a few months, then dropped by 75%, then soared again, then dropped...
  
  All we know is that these rises and drops are caused by Google deciding to like or not like our sub-domains. We don't know why. I've had several of my own websites and also write at other sites, and I haven't seen the roller-coaster effect anywhere else. So my guess is that effect has something to do with HubPages' unique architecture - where although we have our own separate sub-domains, we are interlinked by the topic pages and "related Hubs".
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khmohsinposted 11 years ago
Few Domain Authorities are updated and few are in process of updating.
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Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years ago
Our friend Google has changed SEO;
Former friend, now it's naught but a foe.
First Pandas attack you;
The Penquins? They smack you!
Then traffic is suddenly low . . .
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Damn! This is excellent. I'm sorely tempted to take a break from researching titles for hubs and try to think seriously about one. But must churn out those hubs.....must churn out those hubs.....or I will lose my a!
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  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That is really good!
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  Barbara Kayposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Marcy, That was good one.
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks, Barbara!
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MelissaBarrettposted 11 years ago
A poet who's skills were quite thin
Thought a blog on HP to begin
But when her poem on her poodle
Got bitch-slapped by Google
She was surprised when she shouldn't have been.
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Excellent! Here's my attempt, I fear not as good,
  
  There were writers whose hubs went Idle
  Hubpages forums became homicidal
  But then Google learned
  And traffic returned
  The Mturker became the SEO’s Idol
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  wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You're going to have Melissa's head as big as a beach ball!
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  It isn't already?
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  MelissaBarrettposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  There was an old man on HP
  On most things we seem to agree
  On one most egotistic
  He used a quick wit kick
  And soon became absentee
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  wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I think I'd better leave you two to it - a poet I'm not!
  
  The only limericks I know are not...ah...appropriate.
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  LOL! Is the man to be left unnamed?
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I love it!
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  MelissaBarrettposted 11 years agoin reply to this
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Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years ago
Politically, very correctly,
HP now states so circumspectly,
"We no longer say idled
Our words we have bridled;
Dead hubs are 'unfeatured' directly."
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  MelissaBarrettposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Very nice
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CloudExplorerposted 11 years ago
Yay! we gonna have another Panda party, cool stuff!
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Horatio Plotposted 11 years ago
There once was a black and white Panda
Who stole our page views and went to Uganda
Where he said with a leer
If they trace me to here
Then I'm moving my ass to Rwanda.
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  Barbara Kayposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Horatio, I love this one.
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Horatio Plotposted 11 years ago
There once was a black and white Penguin
Who one day was feeling quite sanguine
He teamed up with a Panda
And with cheap propaganda
They made out like Hitler and Stalin
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Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years ago
We write and wait impatiently.
For that blasted new thing, QAP.
It's hard to pass Go
When things seem so slow;
Hubs to be? Or hubs not to be?
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aa liteposted 11 years ago
Bloody hell! The literary creativity is amazing. Do you think it is possible to put together a hub about limericks using examples from the forum, or would it be certain to be idled? I reckon somebody should do it, I think most "poets" here would agree if their profiles were linked?
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Lol! Go for it! Or maybe start a Panda/Penguin Limerick & Haiku thread on the forum?
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paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago
30% hub traffic drop from yesterday. I'm used to weekend drops, but I don't think I've seen this large of one before. And the weekend hasn't even started yet.
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  Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  My traffic is very poor too.
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  LCDWriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Mine is astronomically bad. I'm kind of glad to know it seems to be many people and not just me.
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  David 470posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Mine has dropped a bit as well....Ever since that Google Alg early last 2012 I have NEVER been able to get back where I was. This seems hopeless...
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  theherbivorehippiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I thought the last big update destroyed my traffic...ugh, this one has it beat. I'm at an all-time low.
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  My traffic drop is less alarming on google analytics than it is on HP stats. It is quite difficult to compare. There is still 11/2 hours till midnight here, then I can compare all of today to yesterday. But is it possible that HP stats have gone wonky again?
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  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You have a point. Per Analytics: SSMT my traffic was worse than the previous week. WT my traffic was better than the previous week. F it continues to look like I'm entering the Land of Doom...
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I was puzzled by one of your acronyms, so I Googled (Google runs my life).
  
  SSMT:
  
  SSMT Somerset School of Massage Therapy (New Jersey)
  SSMT Sarasota School of Massage Therapy (Sarasota, FL)
  SSMT Satan Stole My Teddybear (music review website)
  SSMT Site Security Maintenance Team
  SSMT Subordinate Simultaneous Micro-Threading
  SSMT Scarsdale Summer Music Theater (Scarsdale, NY)
  
  I'm sort of guessing you are using SSMT to mean Satan Stole My Teddybear, where Satan=Google and Teddybear=Traffic.
  
  Please correct me if necessary.
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  calculus-geometryposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  lol! I'm a puzzle nerd so I stared at it for a while and came up with SSMT = Saturday Sunday Monday Tuesday, WT = Wednesday Thursday, and F = Friday.
  
  But Sexy Spanish Massage Therapist and Society of Stuttering Manatee Trainers are also possibilities.
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  aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Lol! But I think the days of the week are right. PDS actually makes sense now
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  SmartAndFunposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Unfortunately my traffic for the last two days is more like WTF.
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I think my days of the week are like yours. I'm asking WT (heck) too.
  
  I had a bit of a slump last weekend, then recovered. Then had two days of really good traffic, and now it's steadily dropping & worse than last weekend.
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  SmartAndFunposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  The Panda adjustment last week, at the time, had my views slightly down, I think about 3%, but now they have taken a nosedive. Maybe by about 20% (too lazy to calculate an actual figure, lol, sorry.) Last week I was thinking maybe I was out of the woods. I guess not.
  
  Edited to add that Marcy, your description of your traffic is exactly what I would say mine has been doing.
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  Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Same here.
  
  I have high hopes of one day getting no traffic at all, and then being delighted when some poor soul accidentally finds my page under a dog turd.
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I'd suggest Google is punishing those of us who live in Texas (Smart&Fun - I'm in Austin - not sure where you live). But Mark is across the pond.
  
  FYI to Mark - I posted a suggestion about Stick Man on Simone's thread about the new rating threshold.
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  SmartAndFunposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  HI Marcy, I'm in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, but I'm hoping to send you a Longhorn art major in a few years. Cross your fingers on that one, though!
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  Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yay! Your student will love Austin! We should meet up in Salado or something someday.
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  SmartAndFunposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Salado is such a cute town! I would love to meet you there!
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Winterfateposted 11 years ago
Hard to tell if this is a traffic drop or not. Guess I'll be finding out within the next 10 hours or so. -_-
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Will Apseposted 11 years ago
Satan didn't steal my teddybear last week he just ripped off the arms and legs. But lo and behold! Today, he gave me back some fingers and toes. So a traffic dip need not be permanent.
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SmartAndFunposted 11 years ago
My depressing slide continues.
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Ky Cardinalposted 11 years ago
Interesting to learn about everyone's experience. I'm anxious also to see what happens.
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Winterfateposted 11 years ago
Taking a look at Analytics, I took a nosedive for a few days, but it looks like that I'll start recovering today.
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Jenn-Anneposted 11 years ago
My traffic has been off all week but my hubs seem to have maintained their positions with the search engines. Maybe all my readers are away on spring break...
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