Here you go: http://support.google.com/bin/static.py … page=ts.cs
I just discovered one of my pieces copied word for word on Squidoo. I also emailed the lady and complained to the company, but will definitely check out these other sites. Jeez! What a hassle.
Thank you for helping me become aware.
Sadly I found a ton of mine stolen.
Here is another site I found to add to your list.
healthforpeoples
there were 3 of mine here.
I am almost afraid to check this one out after all the other ones...
JudiBee has posted a whole list of sites scraping your content:
FinanceForPeoples
Familywithparenting
FoodforCooking
EverythingAtHomes
GenderRelationships
Games-Toys-Hobbies
BusinessEmployment
EntertainmentwithMedia
EducationforScience
CelebrationforHoliday
Pets-and-Animal
artswithdesign
religion-philosophy
travelingandplaces
and adding
healthforpeoples (thanks).
Sure enough, I found two more of my hubs on this latest site. Well over half of my hubs have been copied by this guy, and I'm afraid there's still more I have yet to discover. Will it ever end?
OK, so this is really peculiar.
Julie DeNeen is my friend who helped me get started at Hubpages.
If you go to travelingandplaces . com
search for Julie DeNeen you will find 4 of her hubs stolen.
I searched for my name Carly Sullens....
What comes up is a Hub I did not write BUT Julie did! That is so odd.
I saw the same phenomenon last night when I was DMCA'ing my little butt off over stuff that this choad stole for his "entertainmentwithmedia" site. When I put "FatFreddysCat" in the search box, a whole list of stuff stolen from my Hubs came back... as well as a few articles that were not written by me. Thought that was kinda odd.
YES! I noticed this too! I was searching for mine and some of my friends user names and more than their stuff came back in the search.
Even worse, when I put my name in the search box, only ten or so of my Hubs came back. I thought "Oh, that's not so bad."
...but at the bottom of each of my stolen Hubs were "Related Articles" links to MORE of my stolen Hubs, which didn't come back on the initial search.
I ended up filing 25 DMCA's last night and like I said earlier, I'm almost afraid to go take another look at that guy's site cuz I really don't want to find anymore.... arrrrgh
and worse this twerp has more sites than we realized, I just checked out health for peoples and found more stolen stuff:(
That sinks it. Someone needs to kill this guy. Get the White House on the phone, maybe we can get someone there to authorize a drone strike on his house. "Accidentally," of course.
"Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk! Hey copy scraper, you suck!" (CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP)
OK, that is kind of funny and kind of scary that I can read that and hear his voice in my head. And you remember the words!!! Fat FreddysCat you are the kind of interesting I like.
Just tryin' to inject some much needed humor into a bad situation
...on a side note, I knew I shouldn't have gone back for another look @ this choad smoker's "entertainment" web site... cuz it looks like he's sniped a whole mess of my music articles in addition to my two dozen or so movie Hubs that I already filed DMCA's on the other day. Arrrrgh!! I REALLY don't have time for this sh*t today.
Probably because you'd commented on their hubs, or they'd linked to yours. I noticed it too. Which just goes to show they are not just lifting text - they are taking the whole pages/site.
I had a few like that, too - I think they might be hubs where our work is linked, or where we are quoted.
I need one that will make me look awfully ugly. One that will deter stalkers. The one you gave me makes me look too darn cute! I Haven't been using my real photo because the harassment started again, but this time I have no idea who, they are just emails with no return except from Facebook.
"Ugly"... Then you need an artist with more skill than me...
How do I file a copyright complaint again? - where did you get my baby picture from????!!!!!!
there's a step by step process on page one of this forum thread
Yay! My own, Special Request Mark Ewbie original!
I feel better now. Am I the blonde?
Carly, I think if we have commented on a hub, a hubber has mentioned us, or a hubber has a back link to our hub that it will show up. I noticed some hubs popped up that I had left comments. <sigh> Just more to weed through.
I just did a reverse lookup of this person on who .is
It says that the person who has stolen our content owns a total of 17 domains. Of course I can't find out what the domain names are, but we seem to have only found out about 14 of their domain names.... (maybe they aren't all websites with stolen content, but I am feeling paranoid)
Quick question: some of the sites like EverythingAtHomes .com has no search bar, and over 14,000 pages. How does one even find their articles on a site like that?
Try putting this /?s=TheKatsMeow after the .com.
Click on any article link and the search will come up on the page.
Maybe someone who knows more than I do about this internet stuff can check this out, but it appears he's plugged his own amazon ID into every Amazon product link he took from our Hubs. Can anybody verify if this is correct, and if so is there a way to take him down using that info?
I wonder how many views the jerk is getting through all the clicks from our site while we look for our content?
That's why I turn my adblocker on. It is off for HubPages, but this thief won't be getting any revenue from me!
I was thinking about that too, it's lose-lose for us.
I just don't understand why Hubpages cannot implement code onto the site that prevents copy and paste it would not stop all of the scrapers but would sure help cutting down the number of copied Hubs.
This was discussed in the first year of Hubpages and nothing was ever done about it then.....jimmy
Jim,
It is not a copy-paste request, per se.
The scraper is not actually copying/pasting the content. They are -most often- just using the server commands to "GET" the info on the page (fopen url; read elements; get this and that; fclose; display). This is precisely how Rich Snippets work --and posts on sites like Facebook, Twitter, StumbleUpon, Google +, etc. It captures certain elements and displays them in-page.
Sucks that it was discussed and not addressed. Seven years and one million pubs later... yikes!
James.
I wonder if we get paid for 'views' when Google checks our content to verify we are the authors? Just trying to find a silver lining in the cloud . . .
Not to be a downer, but I keep thinking about the boost in views that this thief is getting by everyone checking out their stolen hubs on his sites
After spending more time than I would've liked going over that rock sucker's site with a fine tooth comb while filing DMCAs the other night, I would wager that "our" views are probably the only traffic he's getting anyway... those sites are godawful ugly, plain and simply painful to look at.
I took a look -this makes me literally sick to my stomach. Thief is thief something needs to be done about this (although I personally have not been effected) Every day there seems to be another forum topic regarding copied/stolen work. Hubpages is in danger of losing a great deal of its talented writers. I know of several who have already started pulling their hubs.
Heh, that character scraped most of my older game hubs. Time to file another DMCA. *sigh*
Wow, I see what having young ears does to you, I don't want to come off pre-teeny but should not they're be a way we can unite on this issue and report as a whole, sounds serious I might be at risk too! Oh no . . .
I've only got a few Hubs published so far, and this discussion is making me wonder if it's worth it to publish any more. If HubPages can't or won't take action on a consistent basis against these scrapers but expects each individual writer to protect him- or herself, that's not a good sign.
His education for science site is certainly still up and he is adding content today.
Would be allowed if all of us hubbers click the adsense ads to these sites so that, adsense will be banned to that sites?
I wouldn't want to risk that he may not get banned and make a ton of money off of us!
A better way would be for everyone with stolen content to report copyright abuse directly to Adsense. It's a serious violation of their TOS.
By the looks of things, there are a ton of us dealing with this guy, so if each and every one of us reports the pages that are running ads on our own stolen content, that should speed things along.
I know Adsense doesn't play around and take even one complaint pretty seriously, so over a dozen all at once would hopefully do the trick!!
Here is the direct link to report Adsense abuse:
https://support.google.com/adsense/bin/ … ;&rd=1
Use the specific URLs where your stolen content appears. ( I would probably fill out one form for each of the websites that is stealing your work, but include all the links from that one site in the same form)
Choose the box under 'copyright' and then use the "violation details" box to tell them that you have also filed a DMCA complaint directly to Google and that this site is copying content from HubPages - yours and others.
I am hoping that by mentioning HubPages, it will make it easier for them to see that yes, each and every article on the site is taken directly from there, which should make it obvious that the site is an automated content scraping machine.
Thank you so much for the instructions! I'll be filing mine later today. If I understand correctly, most people are filing with google and adsense, is that right?
Yes I would recommend filling the DMCA complaint with Google first, citing a copyright infringement. This type of complaint will help get the site deindexed from Google's search, making it pretty useless to the site owner while also rendering it mostly invisible in terms of duplicate content concerns.
You can do this here:
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools … ;&rd=1
I provided the links to each of my hubs in a separate 'group', along with the location of the unauthorized posts and a description of what was the infringed upon portion ( in my case, all of it).
After you file that complaint, then report the site owner to Adsense for violating its TOS through this form: https://support.google.com/adsense/bin/ … ;&rd=1
Hopefully the two-tiered approach will have more leverage in both cases!
You can also repeat step one with Yahoo and Bing to get the site removed from their search engines as well, but I haven't done this yet myself.
Thanks so much for all the info Jezebellamina! I filed with Google. Will file with adsense next. Then I'll think about the other search engines. Hoping all this effort pays off and shuts the sites down (or at least makes them totally unprofitable).
Yes! You're welcome. I think with this many of us doing this we can at least accomplish that!!
Definitely would do the later one first. Money is a content thief's objective.
The former is really no good, as Google cannot enforce copyright, rendering them powerless, save indexing. Same as HP can only alert you of the duplicate issue. Legally they are not responsible for copyrights. However, as mentioned, you CAN and should report the domain/name-server directly to the hosting provider or registry using a whois lookup. Since the registry legally issues copyright of domain name, use of their server containers/IP Addresses and regulates/monitors content on domains, they have the legal means and authority to pursue action (i.e. remove hosting, dissolve the domain registry agreement, for violations of their terms of use, fines/damages, etc). A much more effective method.
Google has a massive back-log of DMCA claims in the States alone, which can take weeks, months --even a year to file and have a response, from the US Copyright office, or WIPO -who is the governing body over the Digital Millennium Copyright Act [DMCA]. Else go directly to the DMCA website and let their team do what they are trained to do: protect your content.
James.
Thanks James.
I guess I was thinking that the reported Adsense violation might be taken more seriously if there was an official report of the alleged copyright violation first...since the Adsense form itself doesn't really ask for proof...and that the combination of both would strengthen both claims. You may be right though, this is my first rodeo!
Actually, the first course of action I was going to take was contacting the host, but after looking them up on WhoIs, I found that they are located in Asia (both site owner and hosting provider). I thought that probably meant that there is less chance any requests would be taken seriously. Surely they're not legally bound by the US's DMCA laws? I think they are probably hedging their bets that most of us won't come after them legally. In my case, they'd be right... I don't even know if it's possible to file a suit against someone in another country...
I'm trying not to lose hope - I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that we may not be able to get the site or our stolen content taken down, but like you said we can hit 'em where it hurts... right in the Adsense nuts!!!
Question, James: why couldn't HubPages develop a relationship with Google so that when we find sites like this, HP could act on our behalf and send along the info to Google? It seems like the klout of an entire reputable website would then prompt Google to check their list...twice...and see that the duplicate content is hurting them? What's frustrating at the moment is that I feel with every hub I publish, there is a 100% probability that it will be stolen...some even as soon as I publish. So, with hundreds of hubs, I simply can't fathom the amount of time it takes to defend my work...which then, in turn, makes me not want to publish online at all...because those DMCA's take HOURS...sigh...
*(SIGH)* Well, that's another 20 or so DMCA's filed. I probably would've found even more of my stuff if I'd dug deeper but to be quite honest if Google doesn't get the idea after me sending nearly 50 DMCA's all pointed at the same domain, then what's the point? I don't have the time or the patience to do anymore.
I'm done with this for now. Whoever this thief is, I hope that the fleas of a thousand camels invade his most private areas.
That's where I'm at. I filed tons yesterday and as people find more sites, I'm like...OMG...so this is what my life is going to become? No more writing, just hunting? *sigh*
Just a reminder, Google will not take down this site - it can't (unless it's a blogspot blog). All they can do is remove the offending posts from its search engine results - so they'll still appear on Bing and Yahoo!
If you want to hurt this guy and stop his gravy train, you need to
(1) report him to Adsense, not Google - if he loses his Adsense account it won't be worth his while to do this and
(2) report him to his hosting company so they'll give him the boot.
Edit: I see this advice has been given multiple times, but maybe it doesn't hurt to say it again!
Here's another site where I found a travel and accommodation hub of mine on. Sigh.
http://acecampinggear.org/
I mentioned HubPages in each and every one of my DMCA complaints as well. By now I imagine somene at Google is mighty tired of reading "(Name of article) was written by me and published at HubPages.com on (date)" at the start of each of my reports.
Just curious, has anyone received a response to any of their DMCA's on this guy yet? Last time I reported a case of thievery I started hearing back from Google within 24 hours. In this case, so far ... nothin'.
Not yet. This is my first time reporting directly to Google so I had no idea how long it takes. I filed mine on the 2nd. I bookmarked my 'copyright removal request dashboard' on my browser bar so I can check it regularly.
Looks like this jerk and all his buddies is keeping them busy!!
Mine are all still showing as pending on the Webmaster Removals dashboard.
mine are still pending as well I was hoping I would wake up today and this would all be resolved, HA!
Ugh. 37 of mine stolen, and from both of my HP subdomains...
Many thanks to Judi for finding all of these!
I did find it easy to find my hubs since I write my name in all of my hubs with the copyright symbol. I know it's not necessary, but it is one extra thing that makes it easier to find my content that has been stolen...
Found a total of 7 hubs copied (I only have 10 featured so that's 2/3 of my published content) and I've filed DMCAs with google. Will file with adsense too. Maybe we need to start a new thread just to see how many have DMCAs have been filed altogether so far? Here's hoping all this work will pay off.
Hold the phone on the massive DMCA to Goo.
These sites are not essentially indexed, yet.
I did some research on this list. Every single one of these domains is listed on the same exact container/server out of South Korea. All three allowed IP Addresses are in use.
121.254.188.50
121.254.188.104
121.254.188.109
The list is/was rotating, which is why one moment you could see it and then it was gone. He ( Gong Haohui ) is swapping pointers to avoid detection when scraping. Here is the email to the Server, where you can report these domains and the IP addresses directly: admin@dnsever.com
An opinion, if you would?
I've already filed 69 claims with G, as well as complaining to adsense with multiple examples of the theft.
If I now file with the server, they jump on it and shut it down, will adsense then have nothing to act on? I'd rather leave it up for a week if I though it would cost the thief his adsense account.
I feel the same way, this guy better lose his adsense account, although after all I read about him, he probably has a fake adsense account too and could probably make another one, no problem. I still want him to lose his adsense though....
Me too! If he does lose the account, he won't be paid anything that's in it, so it will still hurt even if he finds a way to create another one!
Ah, good thought.
There is a possibility they could go dark before AdSense finds them. Still, any complaint made by anyone regarding an AdSense publisher account is pretty much the first and last nail in the coffin. Heck, they are known for dropping publishers for a single, random, oops click. But, again, go to the source - the domain registry themselves- else directly to WIPO / DMCA.com and file. This bypasses the middleman (Google) entirely or just reinforces the angle of cutting off the money flow (AdSense/Doubleclick).
James.
A year or two ago a bunch of hubbers chased a thief all over the net. Shut him down on one domain and the next day he's up and running with the same stolen content on another.
Shutting a domain down, then, only stops the money for a few days; hopefully shutting down the adsense will turn it off for a much longer time - while this one can probably get another, it won't be easy and won't be quick.
I've had lots of domains shut down a site within hours; I think I'll wait for an answer from adsense before going that route. This time, the adsense is more important than shutting him down.
So James, do you think it's still worth contacting the registry / host even if it's off shore? Of course I'm willing to try anything but I had pretty much shrugged that one off as an option that would yield any results.
I guess I was trying to focus my time and effort in the places that were most likely to work. I get so mad to think at all the time I've already spent on this and not to even feel like I'm any closer to a resolution. Anyway, I suppose it couldn't hurt, huh?
I am so happy to know I'm not alone though! I probably would have given up already if it weren't for all the other hubbers affected by this crapwad.... I really do feel like we will get somewhere by all our efforts as a group, slow as it may be. I am still sort of hoping HubPages will help...but their lack of response thus far does not impress me much, truth be told.
As others have said, it's not fair to be disappointed or unimpressed with HubPages' lack of action. It's what it is.
Others have said Squidoo has taken action in a similar situation - but you notice, Squidoo also says they can't tell their members what they did, to protect themselves legally. I suspect that's because they're doing something illegal. HubPages have obviously looked at doing the same and their legal advice is not to take the risk.
The law is the law. The law states our articles are ours. As others have said, in the real world, the publisher can be involved as an injured party, but that's not how the complaints system on the internet works - it's geared to copyright holders only.
I definitely understand the legal aspects of this as far as HubPages is concerned. But - and I'll be the first to admit I am probably being naive about this - I was thinking that since the scale of this is so huge and the thief is systematically copying all of the content from HubPages (and exclusively from HubPages) that it might be different. Across all the sites that this guy owns (we're up to what, 17 so far?), thousands upon thousands of hubs are being copied, word for word. It will be very detrimental to the health of HubPages if this continues at this pace.
Of course, HP has no legal obligations or even legal recourse to act on our behalf, but they do have a vested interest in the content that is published on their site. Without {our} content, they are literally nothing. Their entire business is dependent on our content being good quality, original material, and ranking well in the search engines in order to make revenue. They are dependent on us even more than we are dependent on them.
I still maintain that there are measures that can be taken - even something as simple as emailing a contact at Google (nothing illegal about that) - to speed this process along and let everyone get back to what they'd rather be focusing on...writing. Just because they can't file a DMCA complaint or sue somebody, doesn't mean there's nothing that can be done.
That's assuming they have any contacts at Google. People seem to imagine HubPages has a hotline into Google - they don't. They have the same access as any webmaster, which is limited.
If they had special access to Google, don't you think they would have avoided all the problems they've had with Panda?
Not such an idiotic assumption after all:
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/111495
HP staff is stepping in to "take examples to Google".
Yes, contact them anyway.
As well as dmca.com. The DMC Act has governing authority worldwide.
Great news, I didn't know that. THANK YOU!!!!
I am not seeing the Adsense option on my DMCA form, why?
Adsense is a separate form. There is a copyright checkbox. Here you go! https://support.google.com/adsense/bin/ … ;&rd=1
You can always find the Adsense form by clicking on the little tab on the bottom of any Adsense ad on the offending site, and following the links.
Feeling better now we are getting somewhere with all this. Agree... Adsense first. And yep... Google can only shut a site down if it's one of their properties.
I was told that at least one of my food Hubs was copied on foodsforcooking, but it appears that the site has been taken down. Anyone else find this to be the case?
It's still there, adding content today.
foodforcooking dot com
There is no "s" in the website URL. It is still up, although I don't know if your hub is still there. It probably is.
Unfortunately, the site is still indexed as well.
I found my 12 hubs stolen. My online articles were also stolen in the past, I filed DMCA and Google replied me saying the webpages have been removed for the search. Once I deleted an online article, but few days later I found out that it was already stolen. I did not have any proof to show that was actually my article. Nevertheless, I wrote to Google and they understood my condition.
Let's hope that Google acts quickly and accordingly, like they did for you in the past!
This is one of the many reasons I no longer contribute to Hubpages. I have 35 stolen so far, mostly craft hubs. There are many other craft hubs stolen under:
http://www.artswithdesign.com. I gave it a year but I hate to say it, it isn't worth the time and the effort to contribute here.
OMG!!! They have stolen all my recipe hubs and my restaurant reviews! Seriously annoyed right now! Luckily (an unluckily!) I am off work sick today so actually have time to submit some DMCA's. I mean seriously this is awful! I only had to put in my hubpages user name and they all popped up. Now to check the rest of those sites. Looks like they have literally ripped all of hubpages!
A total of 31 of my articles over his sites so far! So annoyed! I have reported them all, lets just hope I don't find any more and this guy gets shut down asap!
I also have noticed a significant drop in my crafty hubs. This site http://www.artswithdesign.com/sample-page
had scraped my content. I saw a lot other hubbers' crafty works there. I'm going to file DMCA. Thanks for posting the details of these sites.
Great news! HP staff is stepping in to help us!! Paul Edmondson is collecting examples of stolen content to take to Google. He says, 'the more, the better' so hop on over and add yours to the list if your hub is being outranked in search results by certain phrases of the copied content:
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/111495
Bump - just learned of some Hubbers who still need to see this thread.
What great news - I've been in and out today - I will look for the thread.
Yay, great news! Glad to see they have all been shut down. Lets hope he doesn't just open some more
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