I'm experiencing a traffic drop. I believe it is because of what this thread is talking about... http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/112459 When it comes to ranking, there are just too many whims of fate... And Happy Thursday! 4:30 AM, USA, West Coast.
Exactly! Things have been going great lately. But I've definitely noticed a sudden shift. Not sure if it's the start of the usual Summer Internet Trauma or if it's Google and HP-topics getting all tangled up.
Perhaps it is that we are candles in the wind. My traffic is rising. I have though read often here to not get excited when traffic drops, for it does this at times, and it will pick up again. I have been tweaking my hubs too these past two weeks, and will continue. This seems to have helped with increasing traffic.
Well in my case, tweaking is necessary. I just use to write hubs to write, without wanting to use this as a possible making money venue. Since, I decided to switch this, I am in need to tweak what has been written.
I checked Google after reading this and sure enough a LOT of my Hubs have dropped off first page. BUT, I checked Bing and Yahoo and they are still there and in some cases moved up. So let's just promote Bing and Yahoo and tell Google to go *CENSORED* themselves.
Mine are still where they were. A lot of times it is better to sign out of Google before you check. It will take 6 months to a year for a Hub to stabilize in where it is going to be in the rankings. Many I wrote last year are now on the first page for their keywords.
It looks like Google started an algo update. We've seen volatility that last few weeks which is sometimes the precursor. This update looks to be fairly broad. I haven't had a chance to compare notes with other large sites yet. If we learn anything we will share it.
I noticed earlier that my pages I normally check had dropped. Plus traffic has disappeared.
Consistency would be a good thing from the uncaring, unthinking idiots at Google. If my page was OK yesterday - what happened? Did they just notice a load of other pages that they hadn't previously indexed, or did someone carefully check every similar page and decide to move the rankings around?
Were the rankings wrong yesterday, wrong this afternoon or will they be right tomorrow?
Or do these people just play around in the hope they might get it right for their latest angle - selling more advertising, promoting their own garbage, etc?
Consistency. Give me no traffic and I have something to aim for. Keep changing it and I have not the foggiest idea what to do.
I have been on a mini-mission of improving my content for at least six months. Six months. During that time I have just about managed to keep my traffic slightly less than its best in the middle of last year. But I know that it is better for search visitors.
So in my opinion - Google have no more idea about judging quality content than.... Insert a load of especially foul mouthed swearing here and forward to Matt Cutts.
I remember an article awhile back where webmasters would experience a surge in traffic, become very happy, and then it crashed and burned. Turns out that Google was testing the sites, thus the increase in traffic; the following crash and burn was Google's implementation of the test results.
So, if my traffic crashes and burns... Was it because of my subdomain? Or was it because of my high-traffic hubs being entangled in the Google-HP-topics situation?
. I have likewise suffered a distinct loss in traffic. The last 30 days sure were fun while it lasted. Contemplating my next move. . And an observation: Habee is one of our best writers. And Habee's hubs are the best that HubPages has to offer. Therefore, Habee's 50% traffic drop has nothing to do with anything that Habee did or did not do. If the drop is due to Google, and not the beginning of the usual Summer Heat Internet Trauma cycle, then it means that Google is perturbed with HP again. . That is my speculation. I would like to hear other speculations. In fact, I would like to be dead bang wrong.
It's a Google Penguin update or similar. Perhaps HP need to add some extra floating adverts to recover lost revenue.
It is not the start of summer or any of those other red herring excuses. Google announced ages ago they wanted to see the end of content sites. Name one update that has improved traffic that wasn't a short-lived 'mistake'.
My content is no different to how it was two days ago. Therefore my content is now subject to yet another penalty. At what point to throw the towel in?
I have tweaked, and been Qapped on, I have done as much as I have time for. I have consistently improved my offering for the last year and the reward has been a gradual decline with occasional hopeful peaks.
Given a level playing field I would expect to be receiving at least double, treble last years traffic.
Google announced they were making a major change to Penguin (I think) or even doing something new in the last update relating to Panda - I guess this is kicking in. I'm not panicking yet as typically it takes about a week for these 'bubbles' to work their way through the system.
I note that I have a test hub that I check on periodically to see what google is doing. It's been sitting in third place on google for the last six months - yesterday it went down to 4 and was 'bumped' by a page with no content and only pictures. Today it's back up to 3.
So I'm assuming this is happening to all my hubs and eventually things will settle back to normal...
...if not, then I may be frequenting the local bar a little more often!
We've all been around long enough to know that traffic can swing wildly when there's a Google update and that there's no point expecting the worst. We could just as easily see an uptick over the next week as things settle.
I know it can be frustrating and demoralising Mark and I wish I had all the answers for you! Your work certainly deserves to do well.
While I don't claim to know the mind of Google, they seem to hold content sites to a higher standard than others (which I can understand given the amount of rubbish that tends to accumulate on them) - so yes the dice are loaded!
Subdomains helped mitigate the damage of poor pages on the site somewhat, but I believe that every page on HP is still affected by the others on the domain since they're all interlinked.
I'm going to drop you a line because I do have some ideas for you
As previously mentioned, I'm refusing to look at my stats for the time being. However, I took a peek at real-time. It actually perked me up. I have concluded that our lives have indeed not ended as we know it.
I also have a sea of blue arrows after a few weeks of steady traffic. It's my second Spring here, and I notice traffic does drop off around in May, and picks back up in September. It's just a matter of how low it goes.
Hey Barbara Kay, I'm just trying to rationalize it in my mind . It's so frustrating, when you have great results for a few days, and then look at your account and see you had one person reading your hubs. Sigh.
My best guess right now is another Panda iteration. Over the years, those have really been the only algo updates that changes traffic at this scale. I traded a few emails with a goog rep today...hope to learn more by early next week.
I just read this from SEL, and my head was swimming by the end of it... after a crazy day of work, I don't want to read about Pandas and Penguins and decimals. Danny Sullivan's guess is that it's a Panda update.
I'm in another site that has Google Ad-sense and Since last month I wanted to associate my account with the ad sense program, they tell me they can't because Google is making an API update and until it ends no one on that site can associate the account.
This update has also delayed some people's applications to Ad sense, they have to wait more time, to get approved.
Funny, I had not looked at HP for about a week. But I was looking for info on Google and was unhappy with the first page results - lots of the stupid Q & A forums as well as sites that had nothing to do with my search. I shoulda known something was up.
Last Panda was great for me. My traffic returned to highs known before all this Panda crap. Now I am down about 1/3.
Ugh, stupid Google. I work for a company that sells goods online, and our search results all plummeted a few months back, and where we were, eBay and Walmart were now in our place. And their results didn't even have the product that was being searched for. Think Google is making money off those websites? Most definitely.
Aye, the past two weeks have been a blissful surge with 400ish more visitors than usual and then all of a sudden it started to plummet... I thought it was just an error like the 3 days it claimed I had no clicks because it was so sudden but alas no. Now it's down below what it was before the surge. It's annoying... I work toward getting it higher, achieve that goal, only to take these back steps which don't seem to go forward again. I will hope that I am wrong in that but time will tell.
Yah. And it might be that, er, in that neighbourhood there's a house where we all live. And in the basement is a real bad guy who writes content that isn't very good. And the Google Car has seen him and is going to take us all out unless we confront the bad guy. Except we are all in the basement and I don't know who the bad guy is. Maybe it's me. Fortunately there's a long rope and a bucket of cement handy.
But wait. Who's this coming? It's Matt Cutts, in his special superhero costume. He leaps from the Google Car, which is now a tank, and torches the building. We are all doomed. I ask him to call the Fire Brigade and he just laughs.
At that moment Simone and Paul leap out of a helicopter and land on Matt's head. They pummel him until he is completely pummelled. They use one of Simone's smaller bows to fashion a wind turbine that blows out the flames - except for the bad guy who is done to a crisp. We're saved!
Hooray for HubPages! Hooray for Paul and Simone and her Bow!!!
Traffic recovers. Quantcast shows a slight upturn. I earn three dollars.
Even though my views are down to dismal numbers, I earned more from Google Adsense yesterday than since Christmas. It still wasn't much though. I never earn that much from Adsense. I just thought it was funny.
My traffic is way down too. At first I put it down to the normal drop that seems to happen from Thursday until Sunday afternoon, but looking at the figures today they are the lowest I have seen them in months even on a weekend
Traffic is dropping but the thing which is making me worried is the performance of new hubs. They are not just doing well. No matter what I did the new hubs are not getting much traffic. These thing is happening after the introduction of Squidoo style 24 hour waiting system.
You certainly know how to jump to unwarranted conclusions. If the issue was the ads it would hit people equally. After a small recovery, I'm down less than 10% now, others have reported 30%, 50% and one person, two thirds.
What else could it be that has affected the entire HP site? Varying impact, but all affected to some extent. Most hubs QAPed, this appeared to provide benefits last time. Quality improved, traffic up and now this. Any other suggestions?
Edited after reviewing Quantcast which shows appalling traffic drop. My own traffic is the worst for a long time.
So why did HP get hit so bad? We have QAP. It should be better. It was better.
What has changed recently?
In my opinion it is the floating adverts. They immediately say spammy site where the adverts are the reason for the content. I don't care what possible justification there might be - they are awful to look at.
I would never stay on a site with that level of constantly in your face advertising.
OK. It could be some other reason. But as someone trying to engage with a reader, maybe get them to read something else as well the ads are annoying. It's saying "sure the text is ok but LOOK, LOOK, LOOK AT THE ADS".
Makes a mockery of QAP. Quality content with over the top advertising.
Oh we're doing war stories now? I was slapped by Microsoft for installing Windows in my tent. In fact "she was born in a tent" originated from my birth there, meaning I had the opportunity to write my birth story before it happened so I got slapped with Pre-Google's backward duplicate pre-sensationalised time travel ban.
Happy Mother's Day! It's been a tough weekend for page views here on HubPages.
I saw a nice, mild surge Sunday through Wednesday (5/5 to 5/8/2013). I always see a drop Friday through Saturday, sometime Sunday. This week was particularly bad, and my page views went down across the board below 1/2, down almost to 1/3 their usual, in spite of my maintaining my Hubscore and also publishing two new hubs. (Though I believe my drop would have been worse without those efforts.)
I would suggest that we got hit with a 3-way slam. First, changes in Google's algorithm. Second, the release of a tragic news story (about the women who had been imprisoned and Ohio), and third, Mother's Day weekend. A lot that pulls away our readers to other things.
I know my next step is to build a social media presence. I saw how that would add page views. I wasn't sure if it would help with placement of my hubs in Google. Now I see that it can. I'm glad I learned that here.
Sometimes, it's hard to do all this work and see no growth yet. But I'm here for the long term . . .
These ups and downs in page views and income will happen. But the joys of writing and sharing in community are steady.
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