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Anyone get the amount of traffic they had before last Panda Update?

  1. GwennyOh profile image84
    GwennyOhposted 3 years ago

    I am not at all sure what to do.  I started to write here because the amount of money a committed person could make at that time was okay with me. I only began writing here towards the end of January this year. 

    Since that time Google's Panda has done a lot of damage.  Now I want to ask if all are feeling the clamp down effect of Panda updates.  Are all affected severely or are some actually getting near as much traffic as before?

    1. Susana S profile image92
      Susana Sposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      4 - 6 months in is a time when traffic seems to drop off for most new hubbers (I remember it very well myself and I've seen it so often in my time working online that it's actually pretty predictable) so I wouldn't be inclined to point the finger at an algorithm change while your account is still so young.

      I'd use the next few months to go over your hubs and see what improvements can be made to them. By that time search traffic should start building again and you'll start to get an idea of what niches are working for you.

      1. GwennyOh profile image84
        GwennyOhposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks for the insight; but I wasn't speaking from a personal point of view.  I became deeply concered after reading this: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/112987 

        SimeyC has been writing a lot longer than I have.  I don't have enough time in here to have any idea of what my statistics mean in the grand scheme of things... still I don't want to be writing just to kill time.  I certainly have more important things to do than kill time.

        1. Reality Bytes profile image93
          Reality Bytesposted 3 years ago in reply to this


          "Oh please give me attention, if I threaten to leave will you beg me to stay?"

          Do yourself a favor, ignore the drama!

          1. GwennyOh profile image84
            GwennyOhposted 3 years ago in reply to this


          2. Will Apse profile image90
            Will Apseposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Personally, I reckon SimeyC deserves this more than the OP, lol.

        2. Susana S profile image92
          Susana Sposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I don't know what's happened with Simey's account and I know it is concerning for many people. I think it is more so for those who have no idea what might have caused it, that's why in this line of work, knowledge really is power - it gives us some control over what happens to our content.

          The truth is that if you're in it for money (and the long haul), then it's realistic to expect traffic fluctuations (sometimes very big ones!) especially when using a site like Hubpages. With your own sites you'll have far more control and can easily panda/penguin proof them - here there are things we can do too, but we're always going to be effected by the top level domain (hubpages.com) and the other content on the site to some extent.

          To answer your original question - my traffic is doing very well (about 4-5K per day) and it's been pretty stable over the last couple of years. I don't worry too much unless it falls below 2.5K.

    2. Marisa Wright profile image93
      Marisa Wrightposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      The big Panda penalty was way back, long before you arrived.   Panda no longer changes the landscape like it used to - it's continually running.   

      If you've been Panda'd, you'll know it - you'll have an abrupt disappearance of a large chunk of your traffic overnight.   If you dont see that "falling off a cliff" effect, then it's not Panda, it's just the natural progression of your account.

      Are your Hubs all still Featured?   Hubs that aren't Featured are invisible to Google so that will greatly affect your traffic. 

      Where did your initial traffic come from?  If it was mainly from other Hubbers, you'll get a lull now until Google decides your account is good enough to rank well in the search engines.  It can take weeks, months or even years for a Hub to rank well.

      1. GwennyOh profile image84
        GwennyOhposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks Marisa;

        At this point in time all of my hubs are featured.  And I think it's time to see where my traffic comes from; I have never considered having a good hard look. 

        Odd, as I know with all the other sites I write with, just never thought to look here.  I kind of assumed it was Google related.  Oh wait, yes, I know much of it is - the largest part anyway.  As I am writing I remembered seeing that in passing. 

        But I will now look at the details, I truly want to know.

  2. Writer Fox profile image79
    Writer Foxposted 3 years ago

    The last Panda data refresh (not an update) was March 15 - 18, 2013.  Since then, it was announced that the Panda algorithm will run continuously, as Google crawls the Web.

    1. GwennyOh profile image84
      GwennyOhposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I didn't have any assumptions about the impact of the last Panda update. 

      From a personal point of view, and without looking at stats, the date you mentioned seems to be about when my traffic took a downturn.  It doesn't really jibe with it not being a true update.  Of course not suggesting that you are lying though...

      That said, I don't know what all of the possible causes could be.

      1. Writer Fox profile image79
        Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        An 'Update' is an actual change in the algorithm.  A 'date refresh' means that all of the data collected over the past interval was applied to the search result algorithm.  (I wrote a Hub about Google Panda if you want more information.)

        But, again, it's going to be applied continually now.

        1. GwennyOh profile image84
          GwennyOhposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks for clarifying. I get it.

  3. spartucusjones profile image92
    spartucusjonesposted 3 years ago

    I have been here for 14 months and over the past couple of months I have experienced increases in both traffic and earnings. In your case I noticed you have been only here for four months. It can take a number of months for a hub to start to gain traction. So as Susanna S already stated it is a bit premature to blame low traffic on algorithm changes.

    1. GwennyOh profile image84
      GwennyOhposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Cross posted, but thanks for the opinion.  smile

  4. psycheskinner profile image84
    psycheskinnerposted 3 years ago

    My traffic is still down 10-20%, and it previously had very stable performance.

    1. GwennyOh profile image84
      GwennyOhposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks for the insight.  Appreciated.

  5. GwennyOh profile image84
    GwennyOhposted 3 years ago

    I have read a few people say that traffic comes and goes.  Is it true?  After a nosedive in traffic - specifically asking people reading this thread; in your experience, have you ever seen it regenerate?

    1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image95
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I've been here for 16 months and my numbers have taken two major nose dives.  My numbers mostly returned after both of them...BUT...I did a lot of work on my articles to get my numbers up again.  Four months is way too soon for you to know enough to be writing real quality hubs unless you've done online writing successfully elsewhere in the past.  Persevere and update.  Persevere and update.

    2. Reality Bytes profile image93
      Reality Bytesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      For me, traffic goes up and down.  I tend to look at the numbers by month, less headaches.  Right now I am down by 50% from last year.  I have also not published anything since that time.

      I recently published one hub and I am working on three more.  All of them will be within the same niches and will add to different groups.  In the past this has helped my traffic grow.  I will have to wait for six months or so to see if the same is true this time.

      The summer always has a decrease in numbers.

      1. GwennyOh profile image84
        GwennyOhposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks; appreciated.

  6. agilitymach profile image100
    agilitymachposted 3 years ago

    For what it's worth, my traffic is slowly increasing.  I've been here 10 months and even though I haven't been able to find time to write anything new this last several weeks, my "base" numbers (minus social media bumps) are rising.

    1. GwennyOh profile image84
      GwennyOhposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Well that sounds promising  smile

  7. CarlySullens profile image87
    CarlySullensposted 3 years ago

    I have been here almost a year.  I find if you focus on writing good quality hubs, with good search friendly titles, you will increase your earnings steadily.  Like anything there are dips, but you want to look at the overall progression.  From where I started to now, there is a definite progression going up.

    Write about what you know, and what you enjoy.  The earnings will follow...

    What is that saying...

    Slow and steady get's the worm?

  8. Lisa HW profile image84
    Lisa HWposted 3 years ago

    My traffic's been low (after slow decline between a year ago and several months ago), but it hasn't helped that I've chopped up my subdomain and made a big mess of it by "putting it into overhaul mode" (for my own reasons because most of the deleted ones were featured, but also to get things more in keeping with what HP is emphasizing these days).

    Anyway, I haven't had any overnight traffic drops.  (Of course, removing a couple of hundred of my Hubs resulted in quite the drop, but it was my own doing.)  Every Hubber and every Hub is individual.

  9. karthikkash profile image91
    karthikkashposted 3 years ago

    I had a good traffic before I got Panda'd and Penguin'd. I started off in the December 2011. Within 6 months, I had a huge traffic (a bit more than 1300 views per day).. Then just before I got Panda'd I had almost 1700 views per day. Then the roller coaster started. With all the updates, I now have about 800+ views per days. I initially thought that I had become a bit irregular in updating my posts and that hit me. But I guess the hubpages domain has been clamped down, because even after a lot of Google updates, I still had about 1200-1300 views per day.

    My earnings haven't been hit massively, but after monitoring my daily earnings in the last month, it has definitely dipped. Till now I was relying on Hubpages as a source of extra earnings. But I guess that won't be sufficient. I think I will be reactivating my other blogs as well.

  10. WryLilt profile image87
    WryLiltposted 3 years ago


    The two red arrows indicate 1. The first Panda. 2. The introduction of subdomains.

    Gotta say, although it does fluctuate, it's still better than just a couple of years ago. The Panda slap was half my traffic back then, but it's climbed back and over.

    Traffic goes up and down with seasons, news events, weather events, holidays, algorithm changes and lots of other things. What effects someone who writes about chickens won't effect someone who writes about lawnmowers in the same way.

    You can't just make the blanket assumption that any one factor on the internet will hurt or help everyone in the same ways. Even things like MFP images only work on some topics. Every situation and topic is different and you need to find what works for you!

  11. wabond profile image88
    wabondposted 3 years ago

    All I can say is that the Panda updates have badly effected to traffic on my hubs and blogs.  My most successful blog was getting over a 1,000 to 2,000 hits a day and it went down to an average of 200 hits a day, when we had the first Panda update.  And it has stayed that way.  Things have improved over the last few days but I don't know if that is a blip or it will be permanent.

  12. charliegrumples profile image69
    charliegrumplesposted 3 years ago

    I stopped writing here ages ago .. my hits have gone from around 500 a month to 40 ... I've just had a look and I see HP seem to have 'downgraded' most of mine and quite frankly, it isn't worth my time doing any more work on them for the pittance of returns so I'm going to try an experiment and in a short while, remove them all from here and just stick them on a 'random' blog with adsense and see if I get any joy ... I know it's not an overly succesful strategy but at least I won't have to write new articles and it will be interesting to see what happens.