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Suggestion: Mirrored Hubs

  1. Knightmare Golem profile image96
    Knightmare Golemposted 3 years ago

    There's a thread currently active about marketing and getting people to our hubs... and that sparked a thought.


    Would it be possible to set up code and allow an author to mirror a hub on another site of ours?


    I like Hubpages and want to keep my articles here, but at the same time I've got nearly 20 hubs on one topic and I was thinking it might benefit me long term to migrate them in a little while to their own domain where I could also integrate blog type posts and create additional interest.

    I don't just mean pulling the information and pictures in the hubs, but the ads and comments too.  A whole 'Presented by Hubpages author [Author]' type of block that would show up on our sites on a hub by hub basis.

    I'd want some safeguards of course, like a private key that would be entered on the site widget that could be changed on Hubpages if we needed to revoke a site's mirroring rights, but something like this could certainly help a hubber build up a brand and enhance their exposure.

    1. Matthew Meyer profile image77
      Matthew Meyerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      So are you asking for some way to copy your content off of HubPages so that you can unpublish it from here and then publish it elsewhere?

      Is the idea that you would be permanently removing the content from HubPages?

      1. Knightmare Golem profile image96
        Knightmare Golemposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Just the opposite actually smile  If I simply wanted to remove the content on Hubpages all that I'd need to do is copy the hub contents, delete the hub and wait for a few days for it to be registered by Google, then repost.  Rather straight forward that.

        What I was thinking was more akin to the Amazon widget here on Hubpages.  In that widget you put the information for the product into the widget, and each time the page is loaded the widget pulls the information from Amazon and presents it within your Hubpages article.  Pretty much the same thing in function, except Hubpages would be the source the external widget would pull from.

        I like the community here, and don't want to remove my content... I was just thinking it might be benificial to have a way of featuring my articles elsewhere and still have Hubpages serve my ads.

        1. Matthew Meyer profile image77
          Matthew Meyerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I will bring this up in our community meeting, but I feel it is unlikely to be implemented in the near term due to the amount of resources it would involve.

          Here are a few workarounds.
          1. Create all your content in a local word processor before moving to HubPages.
          2. Print your Hubs to PDF files so you have copies of each formatted Hub.
          3. Right click and choose "View Source" then save the HTML content to a file.

          1. Knightmare Golem profile image96
            Knightmare Golemposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Yeah... I didn't think this kind of thing would be set up quickly even if you thought it was a terrific idea smile
            I just figured some more options for authors as well as more eyes in more places on Hubpages ads wouldn't be a bad thing.

            And for me the HTML isn't the issue... its easy enough to get everything formatted in a WYSIWYG editor.    I guess I'd just rather create spokes leading back to my anchor hub on Hubpages then simply copy things.

            1. Cardisa profile image90
              Cardisaposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Are you asking for an extension of the HP widget which already exist? If so I am all for that. The widget as is only displays one author's work, the best and most recent.

              If there could be a way to feed selected articles in a widget that would be great!

              1. Knightmare Golem profile image96
                Knightmare Golemposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Yes and no.

                I was checking out another thread about marketing and thought about the tools that might work well for helping users self market.  The widget right now is kinda limited... and might not entice someone to look at your greater work unless your good at titles.  What if you could forward an entire article from Hubpages to another site?  Like the widget we have, but hosting the article within it instead.  Put a snippet of code on a page and the entire article would be pulled in from Hubpages.  Kind of like putting it in it's own frame within the external site.

                That's a long term view though... and would take a programmer time to figure out the best way to do it and get the ads in there.  I mean, it wouldn't make sense to do it if Hubpages couldn't make a return on their investment... and lets be honest, if I'm putting my hub somewhere I want those ads there too.  Easy to get around on my own site, but not if I were 'loaning' someone an article for extra views.  But also smaller things too... being able to highlight in the widget the top 5 visited stories in a grouping... or custom lists.  Things that would help hubbers spread out their work around and get eyeballs drawn back to it.

    2. Marisa Wright profile image95
      Marisa Wrightposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Why would HubPages want to make it easy for Hubbers to take all their Hubs away?

      If you set up a site with he entire text of all your Hubs, what reason would the visitor have to visit HubPages?  The loss of advertising income would be massive. 

      Not to mention the issue of duplicate content.

      1. Knightmare Golem profile image96
        Knightmare Golemposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        What I'm suggesting is a way to mirror the content, not remove it.  A mirror doesn't work without the original image to reflect smile

        I can see where it might be easy to think that I'm suggesting simply copying your content somewhere else, but I'm not... I like Hubpages after all smile  I'm suggesting something that would funnel your content outwards, and keep Hubpages (and by extension your) ads being shown.  While the cash I make might not be much for my articles, I do still like getting paid for them wink

        And showing those six hubs of similar content at the bottom of the page would be just one reason visit Hubpages smile

        I was thinking that by using a widget to anchor the content back to Hubpages that Google wouldn't consider the content duplicated... but that would be for an SEO expert to verify. 

        I'm just trying to think outside the box on ways things could be set up that hubbers could help themselves with marketing their stuff.  And while making a guest blog post and adding your backlinks to it certainly works, but the post was an evergreen article and you could make money at the same time doing it, it would give people a lot more incentive to spread their content around.

        I'm not saying my suggestion is a perfect solution... it's simply a suggestion.  And if this idea doesn't work for any number of reasons, but helps spur some other idea that helps the community, I'm perfectly fine with that smile

        1. Matthew Meyer profile image77
          Matthew Meyerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          We are probably never going to create a process to move or copy your content including the ads elsewhere.  The ads and the site and part of he same system and there is no way to move the HubPages ad system to an external site.

          Your description of mirroring also sounds like you want to copy the content elsewhere, which could violate the terms of service.

          1. Knightmare Golem profile image96
            Knightmare Golemposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Well, that's the great thing about a suggestion... the worst someone can do is say no smile

            It's not like I'm going to stop writing for Hubpages... but if I decide I want to make something more comprehensive in the future I'll at least know what my options are.

 
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