I would like to begin this discussion with, "why do so many believe everything they hear"?
I just finished reading about how Obamacare is forcing folks to have a chip installed into their bodies! This is so not true! There is no chip, folks! Just as whomever the culprit that started this rumor is nothing but a liar! Should you wish to know the truth about anything and not just a rumor or a flat out lie, One may consider doing research! Before you go and say something or write something for the world to see. Maybe this is one of the reasons; my hubs are more of a personal/inspirational value type tone to them. Yet, I have been inspired to go and research about theses *chips* they are called RFID chips.
My question to you is this; it has two parts to it.
1.) Why do so many believe everything they hear?
2.) Why don’t so many believe everything they feel?
My mother told me this saying when I would be so gullible in believing anything that went through my ears and registered in my brain.
“Believe half of what you hear, very little what you see, and *EVERYTHING* you Feel!”
So, to finish up the second question, How do you think your life would change if you followed this advice? Would it change for better or worse?
Please keep this respectful of others, and let's stay on topic? Thank you so much for spending time with considering your thoughtful responses.
Wow, what an interesting viewpoint. I was in full agreement with you up until the point where you said we should agree with everything we feel. I was always of the viewpoint that emotions are fickle things and although they should never be ignored, they should be scrutinized as they are not always a reliable measure or reflection of truth.
Good heavens, Beth. Next, you'll be complaining when we lynch people who look at us wrong.
Is that how things are done in England? If I'd have known that, I would have moved there ages ago.
Well, the quality people can look at you how they like, of course. But street urchins, strumpets and writers you can string up for a smirk.
I happen to enjoy watching My Fair Lady, it was a rather good movie.
OKay..so I lost you in the message somwhere between "emotions*and reasoning, huh? Well, My point is this. When you are stressed out and yet part of you feels calm, like everything is going to work out. Should or shouldn't we accept those feelings of the latter? When some one should tell you "everything is going to work out", and we *see* the same type of situation did in fact work out with a positive outcome. Should we have went with our feeling of calm, seeing the calm that someone experienced or do we use our intellect? Thank you for your response.
Sometimes people believe what they want to believe- they will see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. I'm pretty much guided by instinct, the analysis for me is separating what I feel from instincts. There is a difference. On top of this, I also like to fact check.
Very good point Hollie. How does one arrive at the conclusion to either believe, see or feel as a method of process? Appreciate your response!
Well that's a difficult one, isn't it? For me personally, instinct is something which nags at me, at the back of mind. Something telling me that what I am seeing or hearing isn't *all* even when it *appears* to be. The old expression "there's more to this than meets the eye" feels quite apt here.
Perhaps some people have developed a higher degree of instinct than others. Or perhaps they have just learnt to trust their instincts more than other people do. My instincts are correct, usually. I think that's how I've come to feeling (instinct) as a method of process, because this method doesn't let me down. I trust myself.
People seem to believe everything that comes from an authoritative source. By feelings, I assume you mean intuition. Many times, I can tell that something is not right when listening to official statements. The level of propaganda being dispensed to the public is unbelievable. I think it is automatically assumed that the people will believe any BS that is told to them.
Yes, I agree with that. The mass media treat us all like a bunch of buffoons. Yet, it appears that they are the baffoons because levels of education are higher and many (although not all) are far more critical than they used to be when it comes to the information and news that they consume.
I don't really mean the same things when it comes to intuition and feelings. For example, there are particular UK newspapers which make me really angry (my feelings) when it comes to their commentary, history and ownership. I always envisage them (because they frequently do) further the agenda of their paymasters and other distasteful characters. So, sometimes, I have to consciously disregard my bias (my feelings) to read the information without disregarding it before actually reading it. Sometimes, they are gems, and I would have missed out if I hadn't taken the time to read them.
Why do you think the people who are in authority feel they have to control any given situation? And what is your opinion on those who have authority their process to accept what is being said, based on experience or intution?
Thank you for your thoughts, you are so very much appreciated!
As far as microchips go, they are very real, they are currently voluntary. I do not know if it is nationwide, but it occurs in Massachusetts. We refused to allow our grandchildren to have chips implanted. It was not put to us as a question however. The nurse just told us that they were going to install it. Luckily my wife was in the room and refused. They use fear to scare young moms into agreement.
I believe that those that control media use both sides to reach a certain agenda. Fear in one direction and fear of the other. In this way they are able to easily push through the decision they desire. It appears to be the middle ground. So it is accepted without question.
Fear of guns. Fear of gun confiscation. We get the regulations that those with authority desire all along. By dividing the population, they can assume the role of great compromisers.
OMG! This was not something I wanted to hear. There is no way I am getting a chip implanted in me! No how, No way! As far as my children/grandchildren, I will be praying alot harder and more often that they never get one either. It would figure that evil people like to use *fear* as a way to control those they normally couldn't control. Thank you for sharing. Protection/Prayers and Blessings my friend.
My Dad always told me
"Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see."
He meant to weigh everything before believing it.
I would put feelings in that category too; those need to be weighed, balanced out.
My dad said the same thing as well. He also believed actions spoke louder than words, too. The reasoning for me to start this thread, is because sometimes we hear so much in our personal life and via the media buzz.
So in this case (media) shouldn't it be best to be cautious of what you see and hear, and trust the instinct or emotional response to what is being processed? Example. The chatter is obama care is going to force those who receive it, a chip. My research pointed for this to be false. I felt like it was another propaganda started by some Obama hater, and now it is creating more feelings of fear. So, should we be afraid of something like this we hear? Or should we believe everything (source) wise that contradicts this to be a false fear? And should I listen to my feeling that this is just more B.S.?
Thank you for your response. Wishing you the very best.
It is hard to know what to believe these days!
While I agree that it's possible that the chip idea may not be true (or could be!)..........the fact is that one of the points of Obamacare is to force people to go by its rules or pay a fine, and that's not right, nor even Constitutional from what I see, even though the Supreme Court ruled that it is.
I think the sad part is that we now have to weigh out even what the highest Court in the land says, when we really should be able to depend upon that entity to do what's right.
Obamacare is such a huge intricate mess of legislation that even the people who made it up don't know what all is involved in it.
Apparently, our parents were right in telling us to weigh things out. That, at least, is good.
I feel slightly bad about wrecking this thread (although only very slightly since it obviously has no place here) so I am going to backtrack, rewind past the urchins and the lynchings and come out to the difficult to defend philosophical position that you should only trust what you feel.
There. A pristine topic.
p.s. my wife would kill Audrey without hesitation. She definitely takes directions from her feelings...
Audrey's already dead. Your wife must be ruthless.
Why does this thread have no place here?
Because you say so, are you now the HP forum patrol?
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Ahh. I kind of enjoy it when ppl go off track for a minute or two... it's more like a real life conversation where humor or seriousness is interjected. Someone (as Hollie did) always comes around and brings things back to the original subject. A couple of jokes, no harm, no foul.
Although there is no limit to the number of threads that a member can initiate, you believe it is polite community behavior to consistently hijack the threads of others? It is disrespectful forum behavior and against the TOS. As much as you may find it titillating, many of us just see it as discourteous.
Not to be disrespectful, but I wonder if your reprimand could be considered a form of "hijacking". Luckily Hollie is incredibly skillful at keeping things on track. Thank you Hollie. I will make a hasty exit now.
Don't go Beth, lets just get things back on track.
Ppl are interesting. There are those who are controlling, and there are those who hate to be controlled. There is probably a very fine line between the two, both are trying to be comfortable in their environment... I don't want to make RB uncomfortable on this thread, but I've never been comfortable within such strict perimeters, so the best I can do is bow out... not a big deal. Interestingly enough this probably could be fit into the "emotional aspect" of this thread if we tried hard enough.
Interestingly enough (or perhaps not, I'm quite a boring person) my other post about my bias when it comes to certain media outlets refers to my anger at them, I perceive them to be controlling. They can't control my thoughts, but if they control the news they can control what I think about. So that was quite a clever connection on your part And yes, I'm a pretty controlling person myself- although I do try to fight my nasty alter ego.
Actually if I say anything clever it's most certainly by accident. I don't know if I caught your other thread or not, but now I will look for it. I hate to keep talking... I need to put my web hand over my internet mouth now... quite frankly, I'm scared.
The post was on this thread, Beth. And I don't believe that when you say something clever it's by accident. You're hiding behind humour
Do I detect an element of control?
Obamacare and microchips! I can feel Sir Topham Hatt coming on...
Sometimes it's better to trust people than not trusting anyone
And sometimes, it's better to earn the trust of someone as everyone should wish to earn your trust. I don't know about "sometimes it's better to *trust* people than not trust anyone". I have been burned so many times because I have *trusted* because I "assumed" they were honest and their feelings and beliefs were in line with my own. All they were doing is *probing* to see what a *sucker* I was, just then to "repeat" everything they knew I wanted or wished to hear. Emotions, reasoning, instinct is a difficult task to master.
I go by my instinct first, rationale second, then I chew on it for a little, and then make a decision. This has seemed to work out better for me, in my personal/professional life. Thank you for your response.
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