Earlier I posted that people should go and make links going to other sites that do not belong to you nofollow. Then someone mentioned that if your hubber score is less than 85 then "every link" will be nofollow. But this is not what HubPages says. HubPages says:
"If your HubberScore drops below 85, all outbound links will be made nofollow. The same is the case for any individual Hub that drops below 40. To keep your HubScores and Hubber Score high, continue to be a good HubPages citizen and publish high quality content."
Can you see the difference? "Every link" is not "all outbound links." What is the difference. Outbound links are not internal links. So that means that all of your links to other HP articles will not have nofollow if your hubber score drops below 85. Also HP used to encourage people to have links to other HP articles.
Now I have over 100 HP articles so that would have been a lot of work for me. But because my Hubber score is less than 85, HP did it for me. Just about all of my links that do not go to websites owned by other people, go to an HP article.
They mean outbound links. So yes, it is the same.
If you doubt this, just get look at some people's hub scores and check for yourself.
I have been trying to improve my writing and have been writing almost like 3000 words in one hub but feeling is bad. there is no much difference in the traffic and the do follow. Can any one spot why isnt happening that!
I wish I knew the answer. My score used to be in the high 90s, and my hubs were read often by hubbers and through Google. Ever since May, everything changed. My traffic is half what it was. My score is going down in spite of my activity on HubPages and four social sites.. I do not want it to get to 85 and no follow. I suspect that it may have to do with mobile traffic to some extent. Maybe it is difficult to read hubs from some mobile phones. My Iphone is not the greatest with mobile material. It keeps changing pages if you barely touch the page. I see many blank spaces on hub articles. Will Aspe and others have had trouble with the site with their tablets. Paul E. says staff is working toward better interaction with mobile phones and tablets. Hopefully, it will get better. I know some hubbers do not rely on Google anymore and use social sites for traffic. Others like Writer Fox have great organic traffic. I wish others would point out what is happening with their traffic, no follow issues and social sites. Maybe we can share ways to improve.
First - do you understand what "no follow" means? It just means that Google is told not to follow any outgoing links in your Hubs. It doesn't affect real readers - those links still work. So if you're not promoting another site in your Hubs, then the "no follow" attribute needn't worry you.
As for the loss of traffic, it can't be anything to do with mobile phones, because that would affect everyone. What's happening now is the usual roller coaster - some people's traffic has been halved while others find their traffic has doubled.
We've had this roller coaster effect happening on HubPages ever since the rule changes in 2011. Not everyone is affected every time. I've been up and down several times! I rarely write here any more and I rarely touch my existing Hubs, so it's not related to something I'm doing. It must be related to things that HubPages does, like tweaking its structure, and what Google does.
Marisa, thank you for being you. You are always so good at explaining and evaluating situations. This is a fun site, mostly because of the great people. We have our ups and downs. Everyone has theories and ideas, but all we can do is write good content and believe that better days are ahead for everyone.
Sadly, brakel2, I don't believe better days are ahead. I look at those who are more knowledgeable than me - the former "big name" Hubbers who once made an excellent income here, and were also very successful with their own blogs. They are all telling me that revenue sharing is an old business model that will never recover - whether it's writing for advertising revenue on sites like HubPages, or on your own blogs. Advertisers are paying less and less, and readers are become more and more "ad blind".
If you look at what those people are doing today, they've all moved on. Some are freelance writing (on sites like Elance, Odesk etc). Others are selling their services to other would-be online entrepreneurs - website design, ebook formatting, SEO, backlinking etc. Others have created their own products which they market. They still have their blogs and articles but they exist to market their products and services - if they make a little advertising revenue from them, it's a bonus not their main raison d'etre.
I think even HubPages knows the big profits won't return. You'll notice they're no longer marketing the site as a place to make money - their main message now is that it's a place to write because you enjoy it, and perhaps make a little money on the side.
Does it not really just mean all the same thing?
My hubber score is less than 85 and it looks like every link in my hubs is no follow.
I think it surely would be better for hubpages if they made the 'internal links' (as in links to other hubs) do follow, but on the other hand I see what they are trying to do by getting the spammers out. They certainly don't make it easy to increase your hubscore though!
I'm not sure if it will even matter anymore eventually, Google will just look at all links regardless of whether they are no follow or not.
Links to other websites AND links to other Hubs are NoFollow if your Hubber score is below 85. The exception is the links HP puts in under "Discover More Hubs", which are followed links.
This is not correct. The way that I know this is that I click VIEW and then click SOURCE. The links to other HubPages that I put in do not have the rel=nofollow code.
I done a bit of moaning about this the other week on the forums. My score going from 85 to 80 and losing all my internal links. Guess what? My hubscore dropped by a further 2 points a day later. Now I just feel a bit like...meh!
There is a question on the forums asking about promotion. That may help
I don't worry about creating follow or no follow links. I try to make sure that every link I add to my hubs is there to benefit the reader. If it is an excellent reference, then the link is a good one.
Then I try to keep my hub scores high by making sure the hub is a good one (editing for grammar, spelling, organization, etc) and my Hubber score high by participating in the community.
holy feck. .... what ... wow, ok still waiting for 'stability' and 'security' here but alas! this? my hubs and links are ... no seeums now?
I am really targeting to get a good hubber score. Not just for the sake of do follow backlinks but to get better reputation and credibility also. I think people with greater score are looked reputed and experienced, talented, etc. (what else you can call...)
And for the sake of this, i have recently deleted all the useless hubs at my account. I am trying more useful and high quality content so that i can help the people what they are looking. HP will definitely see at later times and give is better score.
Why is your score less than 85? Could it be your grammar? Ask someone that you know has perfect grammar to critique the above article. Don't ask their opinion unless you really want it. If you have written a hundred articles on Hubpages, I assume you write elsewhere.
Get your grammar perfect and watch your score go up. Watch your respect from your readers improve also.
I must say I don't think it is just a matter of grammer. In the terms it states that to increase your score you need to be an active part of the hubpages community, so I assume this means commenting on hubs, answering questions etc. that is more likely to get your score up rather than perfect grammar, although of course good grammar is important.
I agree with logoquiz. Being active and consistent is very important. Not only on Hubpages where you participate but also at other places wherever you participate online such as your Blog, Social networking sites, web 2 properties and more.
If you are not consistent and active you will not loved and its a great part of your business and to remain in business.
Regarding 'dofollow' and 'nofollow', these are indicators for search engines to scan and index, or not, the web item that is linked to. 'Dofollow' is only of use if your own web items have either not been indexed, or they have been amended recently. It is sensible to have linking articles with 'dofollow' where you amend your articles on a regular basis (an action that HP supports).
Otherwise, why would you wish to cause search engines to crawl others content?, especially as those links should be to well-indexed content (supposing that the SE's have done their job efficiently).
Links should be there to add additional information that you don't want or need to reiterate. They are to add to user experience. If they are to your own content, then their real importance is to cause a flow of traffic through to the linked-to content, thus giving further opportunity to earn.
For these reasons 'dofollow' links should only ever be to your own content. All other links should be 'nofollow'.
I don't think that making "links going to other sites that do not belong to you nofollow" is a good idea - that's kind of the opposite of what this is for and could make you look like you are gaming the system, which may hurt your rankings. Nofollow is for links which are yours or which are promotional in some way, or which for some reason the webmaster doesn't trust (ie the links from hubbers who haven't proven themselves).
Adding nofollow to quality links to trusted and relevant sources is not good for seo, and having only your own promotional links as nofollow free is really bad seo practice.
The point is, HubPages has no way of checking whether your outbound links are "trusted and relevant sources". They may be affiliate links or self-promotional links.
The whole objective of this system is so that people who write Hubs solely to promote their own sites elsewhere, will find it's not worthwhile because the link is no follow unless they are a genuine, active member of the site.
I use hubpages to hopefully get some back links for my website, once we get above the 85 score and stop creating new articles will we keep the score?
No guarantees. Your score is also partially dependent on activity on the site, so if you completely abandon HubPages, your score is likely to drop.
However, I haven't written any new articles on here for over a year. I hardly ever read or comment on other Hubs. Occasionally I miss the place and have a burst of activity on the forums, but I'm not here constantly (as I used to be!). My score has stayed high.
I believe Hubber score also depends on traffic your hubs are getting. Increase in traffic improves hub score and eventually Hubber score. My Hubber score dropped from 90's to below 75 because of significant drop in traffic, it could be other way round also.
Increasing traffic by social media shares and link building may improve the Hubber score, I hope.
Part of Hubber Score is based on activity, too.
I agree with you Marisa.
There are many criterion HP will consider to assign rank to Hubber. I guess some as Hub quality, engagement, individual hub scores, forum activities, Answers, comments, frequency of new hub publication, (quality backlinks?) etc.
In my case I was not much active on forums before and now too. I do visit and read interesting forum threads often but don't participate in discussions much. Nothing wrong in trying all these (in ethical way) to keep the hubber score high.
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