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Measure of success?

  1. JG11Bravo profile image91
    JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago

    The lack of stat updates is driving me insane and got me wondering if I'm over-the-top with my constant supervision of my view count.  I seem to hone in and focus on anything I can quantify as a measure of my success since I seem to get minimal comments on my hubs, the total views being first and foremost.

    That said, I wonder... How do you measure your success?

    1. psycheskinner profile image81
      psycheskinnerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      My goal is a payment each month.  I am not quite there yet.  But it sure saves time to just check in with the goal once a month wink

      1. JG11Bravo profile image91
        JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I suspect that I'll wind up doing the same once I start accruing any variety of earnings whatsoever.

        1. CMHypno profile image89
          CMHypnoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Patience, you've only been here two weeks.  It takes time to write good hubs, it takes times for them to gain traffic, it takes time to gain followers and it usually takes time to make first payment.  Give yourself a break and think 6 months rather than 6 weeks.

          1. JG11Bravo profile image91
            JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Oh, of course!  I don't expect to earn anything for some time yet.  Truth be told, I write more as a hobby than anything.  The only reason I write here is that I enjoy the assorted accolades, awards, and the constructive criticism offered by what seems to be a very pleasant and helpful community.  I take more pride in my EC's than I do in my Earnings Summary.

    2. paradigmsearch profile image86
      paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Money, enjoyment, satisfaction. The order changes as to whether it is a how-to or creative writing.

    3. Writer Fox profile image79
      Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      A forum is "a place where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged."  So it is a proper place to express your feelings about the lack of stat updates.  I started the thread "I wish the stats would update" which expressed my feelings, and, after 74 posts, Matt closed the thread.

      I think feelings are important and that this is the place to express them.  Like you, I do monitor the stats throughout the day and rely on them to direct my attention to what needs to be done.  I also check to see which Hub's traffic might be influencing the CPM. With holiday Hubs, there is only a short window of time to make money with them and to lose 1 1/2 days of the stats is a lot out of a 21-day opportunity.  I have had success here with holiday Hubs, but they do require constant monitoring and tweaking during their limited optimum traffic period.

      1. paradigmsearch profile image86
        paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        HubPages stats are for a convenient overview. Analytics is where one goes for specific analysis (even with the mess that Analytics is...).

        Btw, per a sometime-ago staff post, hub stats maintenance is outsourced, i.e., not done by an HP staffer.

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        epsonok0posted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I did see that the thread was closed and was sad because their was a lot of good talk on their. In the future post to free forum discussion as the only rule their is no forum fighting and TOS violations. Generaly unless their is a request from the specific creator of the thread to shut it down, the will not in that forum. To shut your own thread down, edit your first post and type, "I see that this thread has bla bla bla (type what your reason is), so I am asking that it be closed".

    4. Susana S profile image92
      Susana Sposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Over the last few years it's definitely been the amount of monthly income. Last month was successful - I earned over $600 on HP.

      In the early days I used to give myself little targets, mainly based on traffic levels and number of hubs published. E.g. publish one hub per week, reach 500 views per day, get a specific hub to reach 50 hits per day etc, or spend a few hours doing keyword research to find some promising (high traffic/low competition) phrases.

      Oh yeah - and do use google analytics for your stats - you'll find it much more helpful in the long run. HP's stats have never been good enough and were only designed to offer the basics.

    5. quiterandom profile image82
      quiterandomposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      My measure of success is only that someone was able to find information they needed easily, or helped someone understand an idea or process more thoroughly.
      Pretty low standards, I know.

    6. Marisa Wright profile image93
      Marisa Wrightposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I certainly don't use comments as any kind of measure, because most comments are made by members of HubPages. We are a very small community, and if your traffic is mainly from within that community, you will never be successful!

      Like other established Hubbers, I look at my payments to judge my success more than anything.

  2. Mark Ewbie profile image82
    Mark Ewbieposted 3 years ago

    My measures have changed in three years.

    First was to get published on HubPages!  Funny now, but when I started I thought "Whoo this is the internet - I hope I am good enough"

    Next was accolades and comments and likes and all that stuff.

    Then came search engine traffic.  Occasional shares and links.

    With that came a little money.  Google have more or less killed search traffic as far as I am concerned. It is too random, unfair and arbitrary to be worth chasing.

    My fun success today was a first Zazzle sale.  My main aim more these days would be to get decent social traffic through people liking my stuff enough to share it.


    http://s2.hubimg.com/u/8484921_f248.jpg

    1. JG11Bravo profile image91
      JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I fall firmly in the second category just now, and that timeline looks pretty darn accurate to me.

      1. Mark Ewbie profile image82
        Mark Ewbieposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Well look - good luck to you.  There is plenty of support on HubPages - people ranging from novice to experienced.

        1. JG11Bravo profile image91
          JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Much obliged.  I'm not in a position where I'm going to drive myself insane over it, but it admittedly feels good to see some growth in popularity.  Affirmation that I can write things that are worth reading, I suppose.

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            epsonok0posted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Try to make a Facebook page devoted to your work and make sure your friends list follows it, Then share each hub to Facebook. 1 A DAY! and you should gain more traffic. Your readership will increase over time. Some days I get 1 or two visitors to all of my hubs other days its dozens on each.

            1. JG11Bravo profile image91
              JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I actually did the Facebook page thing this morning, finally... I do write more than one a day, though. Its a hobby and I write fast. I make no apologies for it.

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                epsonok0posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Its ok, but frequent Facebook sharing can drive people away.

                1. JG11Bravo profile image91
                  JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  I can't have that.  I only have about six friends to begin with.

                  1. Rochelle Frank profile image87
                    Rochelle Frankposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    You need to get out more-- or maybe not,--some loners are very creative within their own space.

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                    epsonok0posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Encourage people to share. People love it if they can support something so encourage sharing with memes generated with a link to a hub the meme is about. Facebook is a meme and other such things, haven. Try that. When you put the meme on facebook be sure it says "share if you agree". That may spread it if it is good enough.

    2. Dorsi profile image90
      Dorsiposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Congrats Mark!

      Hey, I agree alot with what Mark said,,,,my success now is getting paid every month and I hope that ONE day I will make enough between HubPages, Zazzle, my website and the Examiner to make a little comfy living. At one point before Google pulled the rug out from many of us here at HP, some of us were on our way to being self sufficient writers $$$.

      So much for that. We are at the mercy of Google....so be diverse and be patient most of all! It took me 10 months to get my first payout.

      And I used to be an obsessive stat checker way back when. Now I usually look at the stats once or maybe twice a day, sometimes not at all for a day or two....

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        epsonok0posted 3 years ago in reply to this

        With Zazzle your 50/50 on earnings. I am there now for almost a year and almost no earnings. I have alright and original products and in my book it costs to much. My content has also been stolen a half dozen times.

        1. Dorsi profile image90
          Dorsiposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I only have a 20% royalty set on my products, and just started really trying harder at Zazzle with my designs. I'm almost to the $50 payout and tried in earnest just about 2-3 months ago. I've been there since 2009 or so but just didn't do much except things for myself.

          1. JG11Bravo profile image91
            JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            This Zazzle is forgein to me I'm afraid. Ill have to investigate.

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              epsonok0posted 3 years ago in reply to this

              You pick a blank product. Put your own art on it. And try to sell it.

    3. Will Apse profile image90
      Will Apseposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      That rasta is pretty cool, lol. I'm sure I know him (I lived in Clapham for years).

  3. Lisa HW profile image82
    Lisa HWposted 3 years ago

    My measure of "success" on here has always been monthly earnings, and because of that - daily traffic in general and/or to any one Hub.

    I think, though, that taking a look at "My Account" at least once a day works well, because - at least for me - it gives me a reading of any ups-and-downs, so that I can see anything "dramatic" and trends within my own account.  While I'm there I scan for things like any broken links and do a quick check for unfeatured Hubs that may show up.

    Skipping days here or there is fine too, but to me, for the person who is kind of experimenting with different types of Hubs/writing, looking at least once a day at that 24-hour figure is part of keeping track of what's going on.  For the most part, I don't look at the traffic of individual Hubs at all. If anything shocking goes on with any of them I'll notice it when I do the same daily check of Google earnings.

    On the other hand, if I'm tired and/or have nothing better to do I'll go look at traffic and/or earnings for the heck of it sometimes.

    1. JG11Bravo profile image91
      JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Once a day?  I check mine.... slightly more often than that.

  4. Writer Fox profile image79
    Writer Foxposted 3 years ago

    Stats just updated.  Must have been something I said.

  5. JG11Bravo profile image91
    JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago

    Not at all. I can relate.

    1. Rochelle Frank profile image87
      Rochelle Frankposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I was going to say the same....

  6. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago

    Every time someone visits one of my hubs, I have made a contribution to society. I like that.

    Seriously. If your hubs are visited, say 100 times a day, that is 100 minds you have contributed to. That is a very worthy thing to accomplish. And you even get paid for it. An average of 300 visits a day means that you have contributed to the minds of over 100,000 people in the course of a year. Personally I find that stunningly awesome. And it is a truly legitimate reason to feel good about yourself.

    1. Writer Fox profile image79
      Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I like it when you make forum posts like this one!

      1. paradigmsearch profile image86
        paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks. smile

      2. Dorsi profile image90
        Dorsiposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        me too!

        1. paradigmsearch profile image86
          paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          You'll have to blame Bubblews for why they are so seldom. big_smile

    2. Rochelle Frank profile image87
      Rochelle Frankposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      That is profoundly motivating. You have given me a new reason to step up my writing.

      I sometimes write hubs that people mark as helpful, or interesting, or even funny. I really enjoy having that small influence to evoke a thought or -- even to tickle the funnybone, since laughter or elevating a mood is also good for health.

      Thanks, Paradigm--- you lifted my spirit.

      1. JG11Bravo profile image91
        JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Seems like a fair number think that way. Its always pleasant to provoke a thought in a world where thinking often seems to be on the decline.

      2. paradigmsearch profile image86
        paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks. I'm glad I posted it here instead of Bubblews.

  7. JG11Bravo profile image91
    JG11Bravoposted 3 years ago

    That's a good way to look at it, I think.

 
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