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Is hub pages Dying a slow death ?

  1. ahorseback profile image51
    ahorsebackposted 3 years ago

    What's going on with sssllooowww activity on hubs lately ? Anyone know ?  I've been here three pluss years and never seen it so .....Un Hub Page like !

    1. The Frog Prince profile image79
      The Frog Princeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Many of the better writers have moved on due to Hubpages acts of censorship and constantly changing the rules to fit the Google model at the expense of those of write.  I find it interesting that the user below made the comment there.  My daily sheet says otherwise. 

      Forums often die on the vine by restrictions that are uncalled for.

      TFP

      1. izettl profile image94
        izettlposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Oh yes I agree. The censorship is ridiculous. I have to defend my hubs all the time and the worst part is the lack of consistency with the censorship- like some hubbers are on their radar while others escape it. Personally I'm tired of my original content being copied.

    2. Phyllis Doyle profile image95
      Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I do not think HubPages is dying -- it has slowed down a lot due to many writers leaving the site. And, there are a lot more forums than ever and lot less hubs being written. I am doing okay, really, and will not give up on HubPages. I really like it here.

      1. Phyllis Doyle profile image95
        Phyllis Doyleposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Also, I believe the holiday season slows down the activity on sites like this. People are busy with family gatherings, shopping, decorating, baking, entertaining, etc.

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      sheilamyersposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I'm still fairly new here so I read through the responses so that I could learn about the ups and downs of traffic. I really like it here because most of the writing I've seen seems to be top notch and the people are great. Phyllis Doyle pointed out one of the reasons I haven't been as active here in the past couple of weeks. I have a lot going on at this time of the year. I'm sure I'll get back in the swing of things after the holidays.

    4. Misfit Chick profile image94
      Misfit Chickposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I'm not sure what's going on... But I know ALOT of us have jumped over to Bubblews because we're actually making money over there. Most of us still have articles on Hubpages that we maintain because they do continue to make us a few pennies every month, however. That's the only reason I pop in here, anymore. smile

      1. mary615 profile image94
        mary615posted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Amen.

    5. Georgie Lowery profile image96
      Georgie Loweryposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Right now my views are double what they were a couple of months ago and I'm also seeing that some people who (like me) who hadn't published in months are becoming more active. I think there were a lot of problems which started in March for me, but it looks like HP is working on making it work.

      Also, I'm kind of tired about people complaining that HubPages is making all of these site changes to make it more Google compliant. Of course they are. If we don't get Google views. most of us don't get paid.

      1. gmwilliams profile image85
        gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        My views are up also.  Several of my hubs have two red arrows.  No problem here.  HubPages is VERY MUCH ALIVE!

        1. The Examiner-1 profile image83
          The Examiner-1posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I agree.

    6. sunilkunnoth2012 profile image75
      sunilkunnoth2012posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I just wish to say WINNERS NEVER QUIT and QUITTERS NEVER WIN!

    7. NateB11 profile image92
      NateB11posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Just wanted to reiterate and back up what others are saying; my traffic and earnings have been up. I also agree that with business, or anything, there's always ups and downs, highs and lows. Looks to me like HP is on the way up once again. Revenue-sharing sites have taken hits in the past and, particularly the bigger ones, have recovered and thrived.

    8. Marisa Wright profile image93
      Marisa Wrightposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      In what way?  If you're asking about the forums, or Q&A, or even commenting and following - those are not HubPages' core business.  If they're quiet, it just means writers are focussing more on writing, publishing and promoting articles than on socialising.

  2. psycheskinner profile image79
    psycheskinnerposted 3 years ago

    Honestly, my traffic is up--the best it has been in quite a while.

    1. Ericdierker profile image81
      Ericdierkerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Me too. But I do no promotion and 80% of my traffic is from here. Marisa tells me that my traffic is so low that I do not contribute. Oh well. I also noticed that many of these threads are showing people spending more time on Bubblews (or whatever it is called) and most of those were apprentices here? Zurker keeps asking me to go there. It must be a mass email blast.

      1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
        mistyhorizon2003posted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Not so, I know stacks of Hubbers on Bubblews, few of whom were apprentices (although some were).

        1. Ericdierker profile image81
          Ericdierkerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I am not talking of what they reveal on Bubblews. I am talking of the majority who discussed it here. Although I like your point and that is distressing to me that our 95+ hubber folk like it better there -- at least for the money.

          1. Barbara Kay profile image84
            Barbara Kayposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            I'm a writer that still likes it here. Bubblews is fun, but I haven't seen any residual income from there.You've got to be busy there all the time.  In the long run, I still earn much more money here from hubs that have been here awhile.

          2. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
            mistyhorizon2003posted 3 years ago in reply to this

            I meant that too. Having read loads and loads of threads here on Hubpages about Bubblews I can't say it was ever mostly apprentices who said they had gone over to Bubblews. I have a large amounts of Hubbers on my connection list on Bubblews too, and few of them are apprentices (or rather ex-apprentices) here.

      2. Marisa Wright profile image93
        Marisa Wrightposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        "Marisa tells me that my traffic is so low that I do not contribute."  If I knew what that sentence meant, I could tell you whether you've understood me correctly or not.  I suspect not.

        You say 80% of your traffic is from "here".  Where is "here"?  Do you mean your traffic is 80% from other members of HubPages?   If so, then your traffic must be fairly low, as our community is very small.

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    Ghaelachposted 3 years ago

    My views are rock bottom and further. They are about to knock on the minus door.
    Nice to hear that psycheskinner are pushing up, but to be honest I never really had great views, must be doing something wrong.
    One tends to get that feeling that something ain't right around here.
    Ghaelach

  4. Will Apse profile image90
    Will Apseposted 3 years ago

    Site is recovering from big hit in July.

    https://www.quantcast.com/hubpages.com

    I'm doing okay.

    1. PaulGoodman67 profile image90
      PaulGoodman67posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, there has been a gradual HP recovery, although I am still down on what I was.  It's not going to be a great Xmas for me financially.

      The big issue for me is still the collapse of Squidoo which was doing nicely for me last year.  It was also hit like HP, but has barely seen any recovery.

      Bubblews is a white elephant, in my humble opinion.  You can earn 10 or more dollars/day but that involves a lot of time and effort, meaning a tiny hourly rate.  The passive income is miniscule in my experience.

  5. Solaras profile image93
    Solarasposted 3 years ago

    My traffic is up  2-3 times what is was a month ago. Six times what is was at rock bottom in August.  So I am encouraged!

  6. chef-de-jour profile image91
    chef-de-jourposted 3 years ago

    It has been a transitional time what with the Google updates and what not but don't all writing sites go through this roller coaster ride now and again? They must.
    I still think HP is one of the better quality sites but it's true, some of the more entrenched writers shall we say, have left for greener pastures?
    I'd like to think I'm here for the long haul and want to make the most of HP, so I'll continue to support it and interact as before.

    1. sallybea profile image96
      sallybeaposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Almost one year on and I feel far more encouraged that I did a few months back.  My stats have peaked and I expect to receive my second payment this month.
      I really enjoy writing here and I am very hopeful that the stormy patch which HubPages has undergone these past few months will soon be something which we can put behind us.

      1. prasadjain profile image18
        prasadjainposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Oh! your experience is encouraging!

  7. Millionaire Tips profile image89
    Millionaire Tipsposted 3 years ago

    Some writers have indeed left HubPages this year.  They felt their artistic license was being stifled with the rules and restrictions regarding featuring.  But there are many who decided to stay.  Some of the people simply left their hubs there and decided to stay in the forums while they were waiting for the rules to change or the traffic to pick up.

    There are others who continued to write hubs.  We learned what kinds of hubs will not bring traffic and avoided writing those.  Unfortunately, the hubs that brought the most community interaction (about ourselves or HubPages as a site) are not ones that bring in traffic from the search engines. 

    HubPages continues to invest in the site and attempts to continually improve the service.  And traffic has come up lately, so no, the site is not dying.

    The ones who stay need to keep writing quality articles to bring it back to its former glory.

  8. paradigmsearch profile image91
    paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago

    I think HubPages is doing just fine. I'm used to seeing 4,500 around this time-of-day on Sundays. And here it is currently doing 6,100 - 6,200. https://www.quantcast.com/labs/real-tim … bpages.com

    1. Ericdierker profile image81
      Ericdierkerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks -- that is cool to watch.

    2. Laura-n-Sasha profile image82
      Laura-n-Sashaposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I'm new to HubPages, just started going through the forums after writing my first Hub. And thank you Paradignsearch, that is a really cool link. Fun to watch and hope that people will see my Hub.

  9. fpherj48 profile image79
    fpherj48posted 3 years ago

    I rarely find it surprising or disappointing when slumps come along.....because in my entire life, it's been clear and apparent that every business ever, has it's roller coaster graphs.
    There are so many reasons/causes for this, you can spend vast amounts of time and energy investigating, questioning and attempting to come up with an acceptable answer.  Since "It is what it is," I question what revelation the answer would provide.
    In addition, nothing stands still nor stays the same, in terms of competing in the marketplace.  It's an impossibility, if progress and production are to continue.
    Nowhere will everyone be pleased and/or comfortable with "change."   Those it works for will be happy.....the others, not so happy.   Many, have learned to hang in there with the rain storms, realizing that at some point, sun and rainbows arrive.  Still others choose to go elsewhere, and this is fine.  We all do what we feel works best for us.......just like the business we're involved with, finds the need to do.
    Never fearful or shy to speak up when I feel necessary, I simply choose my battles by fighting those where resolution is possible and/or probable.
    For me personally, in this case, I feel my fingers are best left on the keyboard, as opposed to being used to point blame outward.
    Someone here wrote, "Some of the better writers have moved..."   I know this and I miss them.  I also know that some of the BEST are still here.   We all have choices.

    1. Ericdierker profile image81
      Ericdierkerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I think it is more like arguing baseball statistics. For some fun and for others boring. However it really is not designed to make the game better.
      This though is my quote of the day, thank you.
      ..."I feel my fingers are best left on the keyboard, as opposed to being used to point blame outward."

  10. aa lite profile image92
    aa liteposted 3 years ago

    I've noticed that far fewer hubs seem to be appearing (at least from the people I follow).  I still write here…….but slowly.  One of the problems is that the hubs that bring in money take a lot more work now.

    I think in the past you could write quite short hubs about fairly general topics and still make money.  Nowadays you have to choose your topic carefully and put a lot more into the hub, so it's hard to produce masses of them. 

    I also wonder whether the fact that it is difficult to get into Google Adsense, doesn't put off a lot of new writers.  You really need to produce a solid portfolio before you can earn from Google (and HubAds).  I suspect a lot of new people lose interest before they can get paid.

    1. brakel2 profile image85
      brakel2posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I have done some checking today, and am getting less traffic from Google. Yahoo and Bing and a site called Duck Duck Go? and various others are sending traffic. My traffic is low. For the first time, I am watching HubPages in real time. Interesting. Has anyone else noticed reduced Google traffic? My hubs are usually indexed quickly, but my last hub is not indexed. I guess we just keep writing and hoping for the best. Thanks for the thread.

  11. izettl profile image94
    izettlposted 3 years ago

    I've been here 4 years and I produce a lot less hubs now, but mostly because things like "hub of the day" is always a How to or informational only- no original thoughts...sorry no disrespect to those hubbers, but hubpages lost its personality. I personally hate the new format and image hubs is tying to portray- it's not set up to get beginners started and It's become a lot of regurgitated info lacking original thought.  I miss intelligent and engaging discussions in comment sections, but not much you can discuss about how to grow a bonsai tree...for instance.

  12. aware profile image71
    awareposted 3 years ago

    Eric? snowballs chance in hell. and im not referring to this forum.but in reference to this forum. and your last post in it. i restate that you  are the biggest finger pointer  i see on this venue. im pointing that out. and will continue to do so.

  13. CWanamaker profile image95
    CWanamakerposted 3 years ago

    I don't think that HubPages is dying. It's simply evolving.  Sure, many people have left, but many have also joined as well.  The thing with HP, or any other writing site for that matter, making money takes time and many people get impatient and move on after only a few months.  It could take years to make a decent passive income on HubPages (or anywhere else). The possibility of getting rich quick is very rare.

    As far as the censorship issues are concerned, you could operate your own website to get around it. However, then you will have a lot more to manage.  Plus you have to pay for hosting and make sure that you don't make Google mad with your content if your intent is to make money.  I guess it depends on why you write. If you simply want to make some extra money while only focusing on writing, then HubPages is a great site for that.

    1. Millionaire Tips profile image89
      Millionaire Tipsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Many people are also coming back.  I've seen several hubs and forum posts from returning members this week.

  14. The Examiner-1 profile image83
    The Examiner-1posted 3 years ago

    Is it HP or is it Google? I feel that HP is okay. I have been getting "Oops! from Google frequently lately.

  15. Shiley profile image85
    Shileyposted 3 years ago

    Never say die!  I love HubPages!

  16. Suzanne Day profile image98
    Suzanne Dayposted 3 years ago

    I love hubpages still because the layouts allow great things and I can concentrate on the writing. It's a great platform and quick to make hubs look like how you want them to.

    Plus you get a free community!

    I left and came back again and found some money in my account, so it was nice to know you can just leave and come back to it whenever you want!

    After publishing several new hubs, I am finding that earnings and traffic overally improved quite well, and this is due to me wanting to write more in depth, longer and engaging articles. I would recommend doing so, because I think that going forward, Google is going to like those very very much.

    It's a long term thing. Pick evergreen content and leave hubs published if you leave to see what happens.....rather than deleting them and losing all that buildup around them.

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    cjaroszposted 3 years ago

    I think its more a matter of fact of time. Things change, rules change. While those who go bubblebews. They may be in the same boat later down the road.
    I write for the fun of writing. It gives a chance to learn knew things, and expand my horizon. If I get rich, then right on. If not, its OK to.
    Its all about excepting that things change. Knowing that sooner or later they will. For one reason, one can be better than another. Visa versa.

  18. ahorseback profile image51
    ahorsebackposted 3 years ago

    I too write for the pure joy of writing and people connecting  ! However , I've watched the score here go from near 100 to below seventy , Not that I care about scores at all , hell I'm a poet not a writer , but its the constant change ,that is so prevalent here today - that drives people away from here !

  19. Rock_nj profile image91
    Rock_njposted 3 years ago

    It's not just your imagination.  The Hub "Google attacks our Hub Pages (Do the math, numbers don't lie)" http://goody5.hubpages.com/hub/Google-vs-the-Hub-Pages keeps a tally of the number of Hubbers and published Hubs, and both keep dropping just about every day.  I thought these figures would have stabilized by now, but they keep on dropping.

  20. The Examiner-1 profile image83
    The Examiner-1posted 3 years ago

    Whenever you go up, you must go back down. Take the roller coaster, 'up, down, up, down'. If you get to the top of a rainbow then must go down again.

  21. Victoria Lynn profile image90
    Victoria Lynnposted 3 years ago

    I've been here for over 2 years. This latest slump was pretty bad, but my traffic has come back up to almost what it was before. I am encouraged and have more hubs in mind that I'd like to write. I've always liked it here for the great community and a place to write, so I'm going to contribute now and then as I can and hope for the best. Millionaire Tips appears to be correct; I think that folks are starting to feel better about HP and are writing here again. That's encouraging.

    1. Rock_nj profile image91
      Rock_njposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      The two things HubPages really have going for it are:

      1.  As many have mentioned, the great writers community to help support writing efforts.
      2.  The excellent formatting options, which make publishing professional online articles easy.

      I am expecting the number of published Hubs and Hubbers to stop falling sometime in 2014.  So far, 2013 has been a horrible year in that regard.  I have noticed more views from non-Google search engines lately, such as Bing and Yahoo.

  22. Good Guy profile image93
    Good Guyposted 3 years ago

    I am here almost 4 years.  I think there is nothing wrong with HP, except at present there seems to be a glitch in earnings calculations on impressions.  I personally found HP to be the best and most user friendly site I have ever come across.  I am definitely here to stay.

    I also join the band wagon on Bubblews, but this does not affect my time in HP.  I think Bubblews will self explode like a bubble in due course.  I can't figure out why Adsense want to pay B for mostly "artificial" viewers.

    1. The Examiner-1 profile image83
      The Examiner-1posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I keep reading about 'problems' in the earnings but there are 4 ways to earn. Where is the 'glitch'? HP, Amazon, eBay, or AdSense? The first three have a go between - PayPal - before it reaches your bank, which could be the problem. The last one has nothing to do with HP.
      So it may or may not be HP that is the 'glitch'.

    2. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
      mistyhorizon2003posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Errrm, Bubblews is nothing to do with Adsense. Their advertisers are separate. I earn at least $100 per month from Bubblews with just a couple of brief posts a day.

      1. Victoria Lynn profile image90
        Victoria Lynnposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        mistyhorizon--I haven't been writing on Bubblews lately. I got a bit burned out. Even with just a couple of posts per day, do you feel that you have to spend a lot of time responding to comments as well as reading a lot of other posts in order to get traffic? I haven't had a lot of time lately for that.

        1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
          mistyhorizon2003posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I do spend a lot of time liking and commenting on other people's posts as well so it is quite time consuming, however I know at least one person on Bubblews who rarely ever reads, comments or likes other people's posts (he freely admits this) and he makes payout every second day.

          1. Victoria Lynn profile image90
            Victoria Lynnposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Wow. His posts must be pretty popular then, I would guess.

            1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
              mistyhorizon2003posted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I know he does try to do the full ten a day, and his posts are largely nature based, but I don't want to say who it is in case he would rather it not be widely known.

              1. Victoria Lynn profile image90
                Victoria Lynnposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                That's fine. Personally, I probably should try to write more there, but I've had a hard time finding balance.

                1. Solaras profile image93
                  Solarasposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Is that Mark?  Lol - I can't keep up with the required community service there, so my views, etc.. are half what they were when I was in full swing.  Fine.  At the end of the day $1-2 per hours is chicken sh!t.  I can only post a few posts a week.  So I get payout twice a month.  I'd rather spend 2 days (I am a slow writer) to get a hub done, than spend hours reading many things that are questionable a best. There are still some great writers there, but .... it's a lot of work for little payout.  If I lived in South America or the Far East it might be more worth while.

                  1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
                    mistyhorizon2003posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    To be honest I don't think anyone gets more than that on any writing site. Even here if I look at the hours I put in to writing my hubs I doubt I could ever say I was on more than a few cents per hour (even with a 3 figure income a month now). At least with Bubblews the payments are more frequent and require less input in terms of hours. If you make the posts good quality ones and back them up (as you should on any writing site) you could always use them elsewhere in the future if needs be.

                  2. Good Guy profile image93
                    Good Guyposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Hi Solaras, you are absolutely right.  I am from Malaysia.  The exchange rate is  USD1 to our Malaysian 3.  That's why I am still working my butt out in Bubblews, at least for the time being. LOL!

                    Quite honestly, I don't think all of you from the US should waste your time in B  unless you are  Holle Abee aka southernwriter who confirmed that she earned more than $500 a month!  LOL

        2. Good Guy profile image93
          Good Guyposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          How true, Victoria Lynn!

    3. aa lite profile image92
      aa liteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I used to think the same way, but now I think Bubblews makes most of their money from the captchas we have to do whenever we make a new post.  Some people have got these captchas on their blog comments and they pay fairly well every time somebody uses them. 

      Now why would anybody want to pay people to fill captchas……..that is a mystery.  I guess some of them might be trying to do "subliminal advertising", or raise "brand awareness".

      1. Good Guy profile image93
        Good Guyposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Hi aa lite,
        Did you notice most of the time in B we need to repeat the captchas altho we answered correctly the first time?  So this is the catch for whatever reason?

        1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
          mistyhorizon2003posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          The reason you have to repeat the captchas is that if they aren't 'answered' within a certain period of time they 'time out'. This used to frustrate me no end until another writer on Bubblews said that all you need to do is to remember to always refresh the captcha before you answer it and hit submit, then you don't have the problem any more because you are answering it before it times out. I do this every time now and haven't had the problem since.

          Never heard about sites getting paid every time someone uses a Captcha though, that is a new one on me. I will have to look into that as I can't see any benefit to the business paying for this.

          1. Solaras profile image93
            Solarasposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            They used to have ads with a captcha that said "Buy a Toyota" and a picture of a Toyota. That was compelling.  I think that did not work out for Toyota well enough to continue those ads...

            1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
              mistyhorizon2003posted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I must be lucky, I have never had a captcha that is an advert yet.

              I earn well from Bubblews, in fact much the same as I earn here. Okay there is a bit more daily effort involved, but it is more fun and the posts don't need to be so lengthy as here. I earn three figure sums from both sites each month.

          2. Good Guy profile image93
            Good Guyposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks mistyhorizon2003

            1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
              mistyhorizon2003posted 3 years ago in reply to this

              You're welcome, it has made my life a lot easier since I was told this smile

      2. NateB11 profile image92
        NateB11posted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Some of the captchas are literally ads. Also, I always refresh the captcha before I answer it to post. Otherwise, as Good Guy mentions, it will always say I got it wrong. I think the implication is we are seeing multiple ads that way. I didn't even know you could make money on captchas. Maybe I should put them on my blogs.

        1. aa lite profile image92
          aa liteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Yep I noticed the having to repeat captchas.  I guess this is cheating to improve earnings by the site.

          If you have blogs with nice traffic, and some comments, the captchas on comments are a good idea.  I think they pay my impressions as well.  I think I read a bubble about it.
          Imagine if HP introduced this on the forums!  (I hope not, but it would make them shetloads of money (which I hope they would share with us).

          1. NateB11 profile image92
            NateB11posted 3 years ago in reply to this

            You're right about that, as far as HP forums go. It would be a pain for participants but a rather savvy move by admin. Thanks for the info on captchas. Not sure yet if I'd want to torture my visitors with captchas but it's definitely a useful thought, in terms of income. Sort of like the getting paid for Twitter short links that I read about. I considered that for a time.

  23. spartucusjones profile image92
    spartucusjonesposted 3 years ago

    With me my traffic and earnings started to tank in July. But over the past couple of month there has been some nice increases.  The cool thing is that those increases started to take place despite of the fact that I really haven't been that active during the past few months.

    As far as the changes go, I can understand the potential frustration, but unfortunately the world of Google make these changes necessary. Also it is difficult from Hubpages perspective, because in order to try to figure out Google there will be a lot of trail and error. All of this is just the nature of the game.

    Also there will continued to be ups and downs and those that are happy and those that are not. But I do have confidence that with their continued efforts that Hubpages will continue to survive.

    1. The Examiner-1 profile image83
      The Examiner-1posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, there seem to be changes going on all over at this time - both online and offline. Google and AdSense  are going through changes. I keep getting letters in the mail about changes being made (nothing to do with this).
      As I said, it just seems to be a time that changes are happening everywhere.

  24. Ericdierker profile image81
    Ericdierkerposted 3 years ago

    Two important things for me to add here: 1. I just love HP. 2. I just love to complain.

    I just checked and 80% of my views are fellow hubbers. The numbers go up and down as my consistency in publishing changes. (right now I am working on editing old and so my numbers are down) Soon I will publish one a day and my numbers will be up.
    And then next year I will start a companion website and a blog and bubblews or Zurker maybe and then I will network and promote and make sure I work more closely with advertisers including HP.
    So my plate is full and HP really does not alter my plans. I am going to have a blast doing this for money and views.
    Please do not worry I will still have plenty of time to complain and do my exercises -- jumping to conclusions and trash talking :-)
    Happy Holidays to all my buddy hubbies!!!

  25. Gypsy Rose Lee profile image58
    Gypsy Rose Leeposted 3 years ago

    Still here because it feels like home due to all the friends I've made but yes, there is a different feel to it Never expected to and never made any money and will keep on posting poetry at least for awhile but now i have many other projects and it's a bit more difficult for me to get on each day

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      Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      You have 438 hubs! I don't want to quote a certain HOTD cause it seemed to cause an uproar, so instead I will say, Oh my Goodness!

  26. mathom profile image86
    mathomposted 3 years ago

    Hubpages seems to be ticking along the same as ever for me, even though I've been busy on my own blogs and haven't written new hubs in months.

    I see a few more visitors now than last summer. Around the 6000 a week range these days (with both accounts). Not bad, not super.

    My 100-ish hub account gets a payout every month. Not great, but enough to pay for my net and electric bills.

    This one should get a payout by year's end, although it's taking a while since it's just 8 trial hubs I built last year for a test. (Yes I'm being lazy and not switching accounts to reply).

    Seems to be about the same as ever, although people may indeed be flocking to the Next Shiny Thing.

    Modestly effective. Not scintillatingly successful. A portfolio of hubs needed to see results. And, as always, you have to write what some people are genuinely interested in reading and scouring the web for — it's no good trying to attract visitors with pieces of cardboard.

  27. brakel2 profile image85
    brakel2posted 3 years ago

    I guess I spoke to soon. My traffic has doubled today. Maybe we are on the way up. Even more Google traffic. Don't ever give up.

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      Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Wow, that's awesome. Good for you!

    2. Suzanne Day profile image98
      Suzanne Dayposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah my traffic vastly improved after the impressions glitch was fixed!

  28. davidlivermore profile image95
    davidlivermoreposted 3 years ago

    Sooo tired of these threads.

    My traffic is fine.  It's up since the latest changes.  Censorship isn't an issue for me, never has been.  Maybe it's the content I write?  Who knows.

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      Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      What kind of threads do you like? Eric just posted one that's probably gonna blow up, you could get in on the ground floor of that one. smile

  29. Sherry Hewins profile image94
    Sherry Hewinsposted 3 years ago

    I am about to reach my second anniversary at HP. I lost interest in writing here for a while because of a serious traffic slump; it just wasn't fun anymore.

    I recently returned to find that my traffic was actually up. I even wrote my first hub in many months. So, I'd have to say that I don't think HubPages is dying, I sure hope not.

  30. Polly C profile image87
    Polly Cposted 3 years ago

    For me, my views have gone up recently, and by quite a bit as well.  However, I have one hub that seems to excel during winter months - last year it skyrocketed, died a death in the summer (and I wrongly thought it was because it had been chosen as Editor's Choice) but now it is up again, exactly at the same time as last year. It's not about Christmas or anything, so it's a bit weird, but there you go.  Anyway, I'm happy with Hubpages at the moment.  I write on Bubblews too, and whilst it is a quicker way to earn instant money, there is little long term potential in posts. I don't like to compare them too much, they are built for different ways of writing, in my opinion, and for a completely different audience.

    1. The Examiner-1 profile image83
      The Examiner-1posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I think that I know which Hub you are talking about and why it does it. Does it start to slow down in the spring?

  31. Jason Marovich profile image89
    Jason Marovichposted 3 years ago

    HubPages isn't dying.  God bless Bubblews for their international social networking and dribbles of cash for internet bloggers, but it's not going to supplant HP as a venue for writers who don't want to spend all their online time "liking and friending".

    1. NateB11 profile image92
      NateB11posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Lol. You're right about that. It can be time-consuming on the Big B. I feel a person should also do other things, something with long-term potential like HP.

  32. WriteAngled profile image93
    WriteAngledposted 3 years ago

    The person in question also makes extensive use of Facebook to feature bubbles

  33. healthyfitness profile image83
    healthyfitnessposted 3 years ago

    While I love the SEO benefits that writing awesome content for hubpages and linking out to other sites can provide; I feel like a lot of writers are abusing the privilege.... especially overseas.

    I link out to my personal site from my articles, but i also go out of my way to write unique articles for hubpages that will benefit both parties.

    Just my 2 cents.

  34. daisydayz profile image87
    daisydayzposted 3 years ago

    My views are up too, seasonal hubs do so well for me really. I have joined bubblews too about a month ago, but got my account shut for no reason after redeeming twice in 2 weeks, so not sure bubblews is really the ways to go, I didn't break any rule and of course they never respond to tell you what you did wrong byway. Here is more serious well written articles whereas I see bubblews like a live journal and thats how I treat it, hub pages will pay passively whereas if you don't post for a day or two on bubblews you will make no money at all. But time will only tell how they both do. I think it is good to diversify and keep an open mind

  35. word55 profile image82
    word55posted 3 years ago

    It's the holiday week and season. Many hubbers may be into the holiday. Give it two weeks but then they'll go away for Christmas and New Years so, traffic may slow down again until mid January. They'll all be back.

    1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
      mistyhorizon2003posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      At this time of year most hubbers notice a rise in traffic, not a drop. This is because people are:

      1) In shopping mode and many people write on commercial products that people might buy as presents for Christmas.

      2) Because it is cold outside and people don't go out and stay inside and surf the Internet instead.

      3) They save their money for Christmas by not going out and staying home and killing their time online.

      During summer is the quiet time online, most of us spend our time waiting for the colder weather in order to see our views (and therefore earnings) rise again.

      1. NateB11 profile image92
        NateB11posted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I was kind of wondering why my traffic was fairly low around summer and picked up a lot in past few months. What you said here makes sense and what I suspected; Christmas shopping, more time indoors. I had thought that school starting back up had something to do with it too.

      2. Victoria Lynn profile image90
        Victoria Lynnposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Oh, yeah, my dressing from a box hub is going nuts! Several of my turkey and other recipe hubs are way up in views. Then come the Christmas hubs! Holidays are great for traffic. I typically do the best in March and April with my St. Patrick's Day and Easter hubs. Go figure!

  36. Rock_nj profile image91
    Rock_njposted 3 years ago

    My traffic has been good lately, but not today.  I thought with people in airports and on trains and buses, they'd be reading articles, but I guess a lot of them were in cars or on planes and not looking at their computer or smart phone.  It was more like a typical Sunday for my traffic.  I have a feeling Thanksgiving is going to be like a Saturday (even worse).  Looking forward to a busy December!

    1. Writer Fox profile image82
      Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I've had 5,500 views in the past one hour!  This is a great day for traffic - people are off work, kids are out of school, and everyone's cruising the net while the turkey cooks before the football games start.

      1. Good Guy profile image93
        Good Guyposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        WOW!!!

      2. Will Apse profile image90
        Will Apseposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Does this mean you worked out how to use analytics?

        1. Writer Fox profile image82
          Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          We don't get paid on GA's figures, Will.  Haven't you figured that out yet?

          1. Will Apse profile image90
            Will Apseposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            So if you don't understand analytics where does this figure of 5000 come from?

            HP stats are always a couple of hours behind. Also, you would need some incredible maths to work out any hour's traffic.

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        Ghaelachposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I am very pleased to hear that your views are up. Your income must be following this trend.
        I have been at HP for just about 3 years (12 days short). I have 12543 views in all that time, with over 100 hubs (have deleted the non-performing, in total 50+). How the hell do you get 5,500 in one hour???
        Please let me into your secret. At the moment I get 20-30 views a day, must be doing something wrong or my setting are all deactivated.
        Ghaelach

        1. Will Apse profile image90
          Will Apseposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          'How the hell do you get 5,500 in one hour???'

          We all want to know this particular secret.

          1. Victoria Lynn profile image90
            Victoria Lynnposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Yeah, seriously. I've never heard of such a thing. ;-)

        2. Writer Fox profile image82
          Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          My HP hubs/stats page shows more than 90,700 views in the past seven days and I've earned over $500 so far this month just on the HP Ad Program. (I only have 36 Hubs.) I've written several Hubs about the methodology I use: SEO Tutorial, Website Content Writing, Google Panda, etc. Also, I encourage you to read my interview with another successful Hubber, Barbara Kay, which you'll find in this week's HP Newsletter or you can find it at this link:
          http://hubpages.com/about/interview

          1. Barbara Kay profile image84
            Barbara Kayposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks for mentioning me Writer Fox.

            1. Writer Fox profile image82
              Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              My pleasure.  I hope many Hubbers will read your Hub mentioned in that interview.  You list some great ideas for sources of traffic:
              http://hubpages.com/hub/Unusual-Ways-to … ee-Traffic

        3. aa lite profile image92
          aa liteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Ghaelach, I certainly can't tell you how to get 5500 views in an hour, or even in a day, but having looked at your account, I can see why you are not getting much traffic.

          Your hub topics are overambitious.  The ones I've seen were on health topics, and very general health topics, at that.  Foods to prevent cancer, headaches and migraines etc.  These are very popular topics, and Google doesn't consider HP to be an authority site on health.  The very first thing you need to do is look at the kinds of topics (and the titles used) of people who are successful on HP. 

          I'm not saying that is all, but it is definitely a first step.

      4. Rock_nj profile image91
        Rock_njposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Congrats Writer Fox.  It sounds like you are doing things really right and writing articles that get a lot of organic traffic.  Congrats on your success here at HubPages!

        1. Writer Fox profile image82
          Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you.  It's been a killer month for me on HP!  I think I should write some more Hubs.

  37. Writer Fox profile image82
    Writer Foxposted 3 years ago

    I understand GA, all right.  But since you don't understand traffic/earnings, try the Learning Center.

  38. Will Apse profile image90
    Will Apseposted 3 years ago

    I am sort of guessing that what you meant to say was that the last stat you saw on your account's page said 5500 views total.

    This means you had 5500 views in the 24 hours before the time indicated.

    Is this the case?

    Or did you someone decide you have had 5500 views in the last (single) hour?

  39. Will Apse profile image90
    Will Apseposted 3 years ago

    If WF got the hang of analytics he  could see the number of views that his sub got in the last hour, at the end of each hour, at any rate.

    He could even work out the views that would be credited to his account by applying the 60:40 split.

    Has he ever really got 5500 views in an hour?

    Possible with a viral hub but I am doubtful...

    1. Writer Fox profile image82
      Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      It's about bedtime for Bonzo and dinosaurs. Nighty night.

      1. Will Apse profile image90
        Will Apseposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Can I offer some advice?

        If you post something that is misleading and someone points it out, just say something like: I'm sorry, I did not mean to mislead you. Then clarify the matter.

        If you post something that is wrong and someone points out the truth, say something like: 'I did not realize that'.

        And then it is all over. And no one remembers, except perhaps to think 'well at least he's an honest guy'.

        1. Writer Fox profile image82
          Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I accept your apology, but I'm not so sure that you are included in the 'honest guy' part.

  40. prettydarkhorse profile image63
    prettydarkhorseposted 3 years ago

    Nope. I think this site is user friendly and it is here to stay. It continues to improve.

  41. Will Apse profile image90
    Will Apseposted 3 years ago

    Groan....

 
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