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URL/Title Creation: Second Chance, Please?

  1. janshares profile image89
    jansharesposted 3 years ago

    I just noticed a "glitch" today after creating my latest hub when writing in a title. The title is the first thing I write when I open the hub tool. As I'm writing the hub, making many additions and changes to my original, I look at the title to see if it still fits. In most of my hubs, I end up changing the title as I write and add capsules.

    Today, after the hub had been published and featured, I noticed in Google Analytics, that the URL was my original title that I thought I had changed! I now realize whatever we type in the title box first, remains as the title in the URL! Only the actual hub title changes. This is not fair as I always tweak the title before I publish the hub.

    This discovery inadvertently answered some questions that have confused me as well, like the time I discovered that the URL for my hub on Women's Public Restroom Behavior had "Pubic" and not "Public" or another title I found that had a minor typo. Apparently, I thought I made corrections in the title during creation of the hub or in subsequent editing. But now I know the mistakes stay once you put those characters in the first time and hit "continue" or "done editing." Maybe it becomes permanent after the first time we hit "done editing" or "save unpublished."

    I already knew that URLs are permanent and cannot be changed. This is not my issue. I'd like to know if it's possible to look at this "glitch" to see if any changes can be made so that the URL is not permanent until we have actually hit "published."

    1. drmiddlebrook profile image95
      drmiddlebrookposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      One thing you can do, to change the URL, is to delete and then re-publish the Hub using the corrected title/URL. You start by saving your Hub copy in a Word file, plus any visuals you may have published with the Hub, and then, delete the Hub. In other words, "un-publish" it, and then create the new Hub with the new URL. I've done this at least once, so I know it works. It's a lot of work, but if you really want the URL and the title to match, at least there is a way you can do it.

      1. janshares profile image89
        jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks so much for that alternative, drmiddlebrook. I will keep that one in mind for the future.

        1. Writer Fox profile image74
          Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Why didn't you do that with the 'public restroom' Hub?

          1. janshares profile image89
            jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            I know that's what you suggested before, but I decided to leave it alone for now. I gets a few views here and there. Maybe after the new year I'll fix it, no rush. At least I have options.

            1. Writer Fox profile image74
              Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I understand.  I don't think most visitors will notice, but Google does. If you do a search on Google for this: "pubic restrooms", you get over 4,000 results!

              1. janshares profile image89
                jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Ha ha, maybe we have to account for searchers entering typos, too. :-)

    2. Marisa Wright profile image94
      Marisa Wrightposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      It's not a "glitch", it's the way it's always been I think.   The URL is created with whatever you first type in.  I remember noticing it a long time ago.

      1. janshares profile image89
        jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, it's an after-the-fact discovery. Now I know.

    3. Matthew Meyer profile image78
      Matthew Meyerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      As others have explained, the URL cannot be changed once it is selected.
      http://hubpages.com/faq/#Name-Hub

      1. janshares profile image89
        jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        So noted, thanks. I will select final title earlier from now on.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image94
          Marisa Wrightposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          The other thing to bear in mind is that it's not important to have the title and URL match.  In fact, some writers make them different on purpose!   That way you can use a greater variety of keywords.

          1. janshares profile image89
            jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Writer Fox explained the same, will definitely keep that in mind. Great tip, thanks Marisa.

    4. mikejhca profile image86
      mikejhcaposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I made a hub just for my rough drafts. That way I don't need to worry about getting the title exactly the way I want it before I write the hub. It is usually easier to figure out the exact title I want to use after I have written most of the hub. It also lets me see how the title fits. I can see if I want to make it longer or shorter. It is not difficult to move the content to a new hub.

    5. Cardisa profile image92
      Cardisaposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Jan, one of my best performers with over 44,000 views has a typo in teh URL...lol. If the keywords are related to the hub then it doesn't matter. As a matter of fact a different URL may work in your favor (so long as it's related). Is the hub published. Can I see it?

      1. janshares profile image89
        jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Hi Cardisa, yes the one with the mistake has been published for months. It has a lady applying red lipstick: Women's Public Restroom Behavior I think is the name. Sorry for not getting the link for you. I'm squimish about doing that. Thanks.

        1. Cardisa profile image92
          Cardisaposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I'll find it...lol

          Found it. i have to admit the title is kinda funny...lol but I don't think it will hurt it much. However, you may need to find strong keywords for that hub. Yes, back to the keywords thing.

          1. janshares profile image89
            jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Yes, ma'am. smile Always appreciate your advice because it works! I have LOTS of work to do on my hubs, will add keywords to the list.

  2. The Examiner-1 profile image83
    The Examiner-1posted 3 years ago

    I believe that once you click on 'continue' on the title page that it cannot be changed anymore. Perhaps you should write it in Word (or somewhere) and check it until you are sure it is to your liking.
    When it is, then you can copy/paste it to the new Hub page to make sure that you get it correct.
    If you want you can also check it word for word against the other one which you just typed.

    1. janshares profile image89
      jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks, The Examiner-1, I appreciate your help. I see now that I will have to settle on a title earlier than I realized and stick to it. Bummer. My hubs, as well as hub titles, always morph into something else as my writing process moves forward. It's just how I work. But I will make the adjustment.

      1. Writer Fox profile image74
        Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        You can change the Title, even after a Hub is published.  But, as you discovered, the URL will remain the same.  The URL doesn't have to exactly match the Title and most of mine don't.  I prefer a short URL and a longer Title, so most of mine don't match on purpose.

        1. janshares profile image89
          jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Oh, now that's an idea. Now that I know, I can use it to my advantage. Thanks so much, Writer Fox. What is the advantage of a shorter URL?

          1. Writer Fox profile image74
            Writer Foxposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            It looks better to users.  URL's that go on and on and on don't look professional and are less likely to be linked to by other people.

            1. janshares profile image89
              jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Thanks for the tip.

            2. MsDora profile image93
              MsDoraposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Thanks from me also for this tip.  We keep learning, don't we?  I knew that I couldn't help with the answer to Jan's problem, but it pays to read anyway.

  3. pocono foothills profile image84
    pocono foothillsposted 3 years ago

    I agree, I think it would be nice to have the ability to change the URL.  That would be a lot easier than starting from scratch again, because even copying and pasting all the content from an old Hub with a bad URL into a new one with a good URL is time consuming.

    1. janshares profile image89
      jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, pocono foothills, time is of the essence when producing hubs in our otherwise busy lives.

  4. JRScarbrough profile image87
    JRScarbroughposted 3 years ago

    You can delete the hub but I wouldn't. If you delete it after it is already indexed by Google you will need to wait out the indexing again. Really, your link doesn't matter, eventually Google's bot will return and the index info will change even though the link remains the same. Basically, as long as your title contains the keywords you are aiming for, you are fine. The link does add value like that but the way a link is formed, it is not providing you anything in the way of keyword aid.

    For example, this link http://jrscarbrough.hubpages.com/hub/5- … to-Die-For
    adds nothing to my rank in Google through the keywords at the end. That word would be a long one "5-Mexican-Dishes-to-Die-For". BUT my actual title heading does ad something. I change my titles about 3 months into their Google indexation sometimes and it does nothing to hurt the page to have the link remain the same as the first title choice.

    Hope this helps.

    1. janshares profile image89
      jansharesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, this does help, JR. I appreciate the example.

      1. JRScarbrough profile image87
        JRScarbroughposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        No problem Jan. These were questions I did a lot of reading on before I messed with my own Hubs, I noticed this too. The reason they keep the link is so Google or other search engines will not lose your hub and then you have to wait to appear in search engines again.

 
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