I am literally sick and tired of people who follow you, and then, when you follow them back, they promptly unfollow you. Really, people?
What do you do when someone unfollows you shortly after you follow them? Do you hunt them down and unfollow them as well? Do you send them mail saying what they did was rude? Do you ignore them? Or have you given up on 'followers' entirely?
I don't even pay attention in detail to that. I have never, as far as I can remember, in over two years, checked to see who is following me or who is still following me.
Has been happening on Twitter for several years. That explains how some have 50,000 + followers while they are following only 5000+.
Why did you "follow them back"?
Was it because they had great writing, or wrote on topics which interested you? If so, then why does it matter if they "unfollow" you?
if it was just because they followed you, then you're creating the problem yourself, by playing the spammers' game.
Following on HubPages is not about being friends, it's about keeping track of writers whose work you admire. Use it like that and you'll have less problems.
I've seen that happen I just don't pay attention to it. I have not been on here for awhile making comments and answering my comments because of a sickness in the family and in that time I have lost 4 followers. I have no idea why or who they are because I don't bother to look. I always see my number when I go on my profile so I do notice that. Some will unfollow and you will get more back. I wouldn't worry about it.
I do not really pay attention to any who has stopped following me. In some cases, maybe most, those who stop following are in a competition game. To quote Marisa: "Following on HubPages is not about being friends, it's about keeping track of writers whose work you admire. Use it like that and you'll have less problems.", this is the practice I use.
I don't care who unfollows me. If they are not interested in reading my hubs, then having them on my followers list is of no use to me.
Same here. I have never played the "follow me and I'll follow you back" game. It's pointless.
I barely even keep track of who's following me, so to be honest the only way I'd notice that I'd been "unfollowed" would be if a whole chunk of my "followers" dropped me at the same time.
I was just wondering this same thing, and from people's reactions here, I thought I should post to support the original post. Yes, we should follow because we like someone's writing or other creative products (be it here, on Twitter, or elsewhere), but sometimes there are other reasons for following. For one, if people don't have a pretty close balance of followers to followed, they hit Twitter limits and cannot keep following those they desire. So, if someone unfollows you for no reason, that could lower the number of people you are able to follow. When you want to follow all your faves on something like America's Got Talent, you can hit limits rather quickly.
And then you may get this scenario:
You're notified of a new follower on Twitter. You look over their posts, and while you wouldn't look for them to follow, you decide their tweets are good enough for a reciprocal follow. It's not about falsely inflating your fan base; it's just about being kind; maybe even about helping them not hit their limits. Then, because you've been kind, it's a bit infuriating to have people unfollow and give you the unspoken message that they were just using your kindness for their own benefit--inflating their own followers.
If this wasn't something that mattered to lots of people, there wouldn't be huge amounts of software and plugins that automatically unfollow people who don't follow back. I haven't installed any of it, and I won't install it because I typically follow only when I want to read someone's shares, but for those times when I follow to reciprocate, it's no fun to be disrespected by those who are cheating.
Obviously, it's better for all of us and our sanity to not worry about those things, other than for the concern about limits. but I had one that unfollowed within minutes of my reciprocal follow, and that's just plain rude. Ya know?
I have noticed in my follower's list that I see one total amount, then in a day or a week, I see that one or two followers are gone - - -all without notifying me of why they are leaving.
I guess I do have a lot to learn about HP. Maybe one day I will get over this naïve spirit.
Kenneth you are a sweetheart , funny , informative , if some one leaves you ! O well they will mis out on your beautiful talent as writer. Maybe they just left hp.
or passed away. I see no reason besides the ones you may lose you will gain a 100 fold. Keep being and doing you! You are like no one else. friends for life.
Dearest Kiss and Tales . . .
with THIS comment, I could stop hubbing altogether and go to Jesus a happy man. I am totally serious. Thanks. I love you and all of my followers. I say this often and I mean it.
I will be here as long as I draw breath Love you.
Don't qorry about followers unfollowing you. They are solely about gathering a following to make faster money. Their content really isn't worth much at all. I've gathered a quality following which in the end is worth so much more than quantity.
It's not a reflection on you or your writing. It is a reflection on the quality of the person who unfollowed you soon after you followed them back.
I feel you... It pisses me off but there are people who just wanted to have more followers and don't mind hurting others on the process... *sigh*
ineluctable, Its nomal in every social network, even in real life. You should not be too preoccupied.
If I am unfollowed on Twitter, I check the unfollowing account. If I see "0 Following, 34123 Followers," I block them. statusbrew.com and other sites make it easy to deal with these folks.
The significant following and unfollowing behavior that is happening is likely primarily due to certain folks attempting to manipulate Twitter and perform black hat SEO (search engine optimization) vs white hat SEO. The more authentic we are in our software system actions, the more useful and valuable these systems will be to us.
I don't get a lot of new followers week to week. So, I have the time and ability to look at their Twitter profile to see if I could be genuinely interested in the individual. And if so, I may follow. The fakers (and they seem to be 5 to 10% of the folks that are currently following me) tend to come and and go quickly, if that's any consolation : ).
When you and I utilize best practices here, it, over time, should help others to be persuaded to do the same.
I've noticed this on Twitter. I'll unfollow the people who do this to me.
I had that problem as well, but I have since given up on worrying with them.
People on twitter often follow with the expectation of reciprocation. It's quid pro quo networking. I don't do it, but it works if you want to artificially increase your following. I refuse to inflate my following with blackmailers, unlike some...
I had a few recently do that. I only look at potentially following those who leave fan mail. Otherwise, it's just too hard to keep track of.
How do you know who unfollows you? I can't tell, I just notice that the # of followers decreases sometimes. I do wonder why someone unfollows, though.
Do you hunt them down and unfollow them as well? Do you send them mail saying what they did was rude?
I can't tell if the OP is serious, but if I had such an extreme reaction to something as trivial and meaningless as online followers, I would deserve to be involuntarily committed.
Really it's not important whether people follow you or not. It's really something that toys with your emotions. Really kind of like a reward and punishment scenario. Think about it, you may measure your worth, or writing skills by who follows you, but fortunately it has nothing to do with your worth or writing ability. It is just a number to me. If you have a published book someday lots of people will pick it up and put it down.
Lots of people will follow you and unfollow you. Critics will say good and bad things. Emotions can't rule your thoughts, and thoughts shouldn't be ruled by emotions. Who ever is supposed to be around you will be around you and read your work.
I generally do not follow anyone anymore unless they grab my attention somehow. Sometimes it is just being smart in the forums or one of their hubs stands out to me.
I haven’t had this issue yet. If someone I already am familiar with follows me, I will follow back. Since this is how I handle follows, I have not had the issue because I have a lot of fishing follows. I can generally tell because I have no clue why the person followed me. If it is a fishing follow, they are attempting to rush a following and then to appear popular by lessening the amount they actually follow so that their following is larger than their follows.
It is a Twitter thing. People come on there and mass follow until they get a bunch of return followers and then mass unfollow to appear more important than they are.
I've never encountered that problem either. But then again, I'm fairly new to HubPages...
Yes, that happens, but there is nothing to worry about. And there may be other reasons for their unfollow, too. Like blocked accounts of those people.
I follow people to read their stuff. If I follow them and their content is not as interesting as I had hoped, I unfollow. I don't give a flying fig if they follow me or not.
Do you ever wonder where these sayings come from? It's kind of interesting.
From the idiom section of The Free Dictionary online:
not care/give a fig (old-fashioned)
if you say that you don't care a fig, you mean that something or someone is not important to you at all. They can say what they like, I don't give a fig.
(The use of "flying" is just something that accentuates the idiom.)
"Fig" is a euphemism for that very common four-letter word starting with "f", and you are more likely to hear this idiom used nowadays with that word, rather than "fig".
I follow people who write about the things that interest me and write in the same topic areas. I want to keep track of topics that are coming up that are similar to mine so I don't duplicate what is already out there. I don't really care who follows and unfollows, though I think it is irritating that someone follows you just so they can gain a follower and then drops you.
Why does it upset you so? I sometimes read a very good article and follow the author, but on closer inspection I don't find their other hubs of interest to me. The notifications just clutter up my inbox so I unfollow. It's not because they aren't good writers, just that few of their hubs interest me.
I've finally learned to stop being upset about getting unfollowed, but even on here it really did make me sad for some reason. It made me sad to the point of writing a hub on the subject, but now I know it's a fleeting feeling and taking it personally doesn't help at all.
I thought this only happens on Twitter.
Here, i haven't really noticed whether I've been un-followed or not. Didn't even know they did that on Hubpages too.
I've always wondered why people do that on Twitter but now understand why, going by what @JRScarbrough said.
That's some real childish attitude. Such individuals need to grow up.
Having followers on Twitter and having followers on HubPages are two totally different things. Having followers on HubPages is nice for the ego, but it is almost completely irrelevant - you can be a very successful HubPages writer with no followers at all.
That's because success on HubPages comes from external readers, not other Hubbers. Sure, Followers might share your Hub on their Facebook page or leave a nice comment, but those things are a drop in the ocean. They make a little difference, but not a lot. In fact if you focus too much attention on Following and not enough on reaching out to your external audience, that will hinder your traffic instead of helping it.
The Followers system on HP is for networking with other writers (because all HubPages members are writers, not readers). Having followers read and comment on your Hub is a morale booster if you're no getting good external traffic on a Hub - other writers can give you motivation to keep writing. That's it.
I never follow anybody just because they followed me.
Do you inspect their content? I will followback if they appear to have scruples and are serious about whatever their interests are. I learn a lot out of getting followed. I may not have the same interests but I have a fondness for well written articles. I love a good writer regardless of my interest in the subject.
When followed, I go asap to their profile and scan a few pages and if it looks like they are a real writer, I'll followback as a kudos.
I used to do that, but lately I just am not reading many hubs. If I don't read, then it will be no benefit to have me as a follower.
This is the point people miss - they get upset if people don't follow them, but they don't realise that having a follower IN ITSELF has no value. If that follower doesn't read or share any of your Hubs, you might as well not have them.
That's why I hardly ever follow anyone now. I don't read Hubs much these days.
I have exactly 800 followers. Any one betrayal and I am doomed.
Lol. Is 800 your pact with the devil? 799 and he gets your soul? I'm going to write that movie here.
INT. PARADIGMSEARCH'S COMPUTER ROOM - DAY
paradigmseach stares hard at a computer screen for a long time.
ON COMPUTER SCREEN:
paradigmsearch's profile reads 800 followers.
Paradigm clicks the mouse and the screen refreshes. Paradigmsearch's eyes widen and teeth clench into a face of pure terror.
ON COMPUTER SCREEN:
paradigmsearch's profile reads 799.
Thunder BOOMS outside. The room SHAKES and the PITTER PATTER of debree falling as an electrical BUZZ begins until a sudden BLAST of an explosion of sparks puts the room into total darkness. DEMONIC LAUGHTER echoes off the room walls.
You're time has come.
More DEMONIC LAUGHTER and then the only sound left from within the darkness is SOBBING.
INT. JRS COMPUTER ROOM - DAY
JR stares long and hard at his computer screen.
ON COMPUTER SCREEN:
jrscarbrough's profile reads 0 followers.
JR clicks the mouse and the screen refreshes amd his eyes widen and he smiles and nods approvingly.
ON COMPUTER SCREEN:
jrscarbrough's profile reads 1 follower.
FADE TO BLACK
Beware peoples. The devil is following us.
Are you an employee of HubPages? I have always wanted to ask you, but never had the nerve.
And . . .how do you pronounce your name?
Thanks its always a wonderful thing to know who love and care about you thank you!
I have noticed that some of the people on twitter who unfollow you after you follow them are just trying to get a lot of followers; they don't care about your twitter feed at all. These are the people who have loads of followers but don't follow many back-you get a feel for them after a while. I unfollow them because to me it is obnoxious and rude to use someone to collect followers, and kind of pathetic and I don't want anything to do with them. However, some followers unfollow me-I think because they don't like my feed-so be it. When it is blatantly obvious that I am being 'used' so that person can you use me as a number, then yes I unfollow them. Otherwise I don't care. If it happened to me on Hubpages I would be dashed and probably throw my self to the ground in self pity and use a whole box of hankies (I know...I know a bit over dramatic..couldn't help myself), because I would worry that my writing was awful that they unfriended me. I am going to follow you...I just skimmed some of your stuff and it looks very healthy and interesting. Take care.
How many followers you have is immaterial.
That figure does not reflect actual HubPages member presence (people who have left or are not active still count), it does not correlate to traffic in any way and it has nothing to do with money or earnings potential.
Nor does it matter how many people you follow.
Followers and following are empty metrics that are part of the gamefication of a website meant to keep members involved with the site more. It's meant to try and make you spend more time on HubPages.
I NEVER follow someone back on HP unless I actually plan on reading their articles. The point of following is to follow their writings.
It is pointless to follow if I don't plan on reading their work. It is also misleading. One of my accounts has around 500 followers, on that account I follow maybe 40. I struggle to read their new articles. Thankfully most aren't as active as they use to be.
Point is, if they unfollow it doesn't impact me at all, because I likely didn't follow them anyway.
When I first joined I did not notice to understand this follow feature .I had people following me but did not undestand the meaning I could follow them .I think HP has features you will discover not that you intentionally not follow. Its your misunderstanding of how to use the feature.
Some times when you comment you automatically are following the subject
But not the hub writer I have later learned
So we can see another side here it could be just plain misunderstanding.
Dear Kiss and Tales,
I am Honored to Follow you and Have You Follow me. Never forget that. And I Appreciate and Love You Very Much. You have really touched my life in ways that I should write about, but do not have adequate words.
Thanks kenneth you write from your sincere heart ,when you say something its real and reaches my heart . I am sure many can say the same here on HP.
Well Kenneth I would be most honored and happy to recieve such a letter .
I proberly live miles and miles away but you are close to me .I thank HP that you are a wonderful example here to many. But speaking for myself I have leaerned how brave and how strong you are in your trials and tribulations I know it not easy but you indured and helping many with their own. I am up in age a little I am happy because Jehovah is good and he gives us gifts in each other. Looking forward to that letter anytime.
How do you even know people unfollow you? I barely ever look at my follower's list, unless it's to approve fan mail when I remember (we so need a link to that, that's easy to access).
Followers don't do much other than make for a pretty number. Less than 5% of my traffic is from Hubpages users.
I can't even begin to describe how annoying this is to me as well. I know it sounds like a such a first world problem to complain about people who unfollow you, but it is frustrating to me to see people follow me on social media and when I follow back then they unfollow me. It's like, why even bother for that extra follower? I'm just going to unfollow you as soon as I realize.
Just because someone follow's me they shouldn't expect I will follow them back. In turn, just because I follow them doesn't mean they have to follow me.
I only follow those who interest me. I don't like trading follows. It defeats the purpose.
I understand .but I have learned you get to meet new writers and hubs of good quality. You might even get to meet your new best friend for life. I have been here awhile the road has been bumby at times
But there are talented good people here.
I guess I see it this way if a person greets me and say hello ! I am going to return the greeting ! We do this HP style alot of good people.
Normally, I send ALL of my New Followers a personal email of "thanks," for following me because I do not take this kind gesture lightly. And for another reason: I want to produce hubs that can be seen as somewhat educational without attending school and humorous without buying a $50-dollar ticket to a comedy club.
My hubs are always a work in progress.
One day . . .One will be an Editor's Choice and when that happens, I will gladly post, it is due to my followers!
Be careful what you wish for. My one-and-only Editor's Choice hub has a hub score of 65.
I have two that are editor's choices. I have two chosen for niche sites. And for the life of me, i can't figure out why any of it was worthy of any of it. My best work here is left scores of 97 on good months and 78s on bad ones. It makes no sense a lot of the time.
I do know they love to force editing and reediting and reediting. One week a picture at the very top is a great thing, the next it isn't. I don't know the formulas they are using but I do know they keep changing.
Editor's Choices are simply hubs that come out of the starting gate and make them a few dollars fairly quickly I am starting to believe. I don't believe any of it is a reflection of the quality of the writing. I just edited a three year old hub that has been up near 90 for years and it had so many spelling errors I was kind of embarrassed I had my name attached to it for three years.
In fact, I am kind of embarrassed my name is attached to a lot of things. I have a habit of hitting send before i do my best editing. lol
For some reason, I felt inspired today. So I just completed overhauling the critter, replicating the previous HubPro formatting I've seen. I figure the score can't get any worse.
From what I've read of yours you are a great writer. I've spent the majority of my higher education in majoring in communication and English Composition. I mastered in Creative Composition and Screenwriting and have several degrees ranging from Psychology to Dietetics and IT fields. You're a damn good writer. You kept me hooked on the Libra Hub because I am a Libra and I found your use of pre-astrology hooplah to be better information than the horoscopes that fit everyone like a fortune cookie fortune.
"Money is coming to you soon if you get enough rest and go to work."
Well geez, I better get some sleep and go to work every day this week or else my fortune might not come true. Duh!
I found your writing to be eloquent and well-structured and even rhythmic. That's very rare. Trust me, I'd say if I saw anything that sucked. I didn't. You deserve kudos from HP on more of your stuff. It is very original and well thought out. Also, very creatively written.
I liked my little spin on callus removal for women from a man's perspective. Your writing comes off similar. You have your own voice and style. Keep it up. Show that wit. I just noticed you and already know you are witty and have a healthy sense of humor.
I don't think Editor's Choice necessarily are ones that make some money quickly - or at least mine certainly haven't. In fact, as far as my two are concerned, I've come to think of it as a kiss of death.
Idk. Mine aren't dead from it. I'm never finished writing them though. If I see anything falling behind that has been structured with keywords with low competition and should be getting alot of views, I restructure pics and tables and reword or shorten word count and just watch it for a month. Usually if its hubscore rises then it also starts moving again. Google's algorithms change often and hp changes to keep up. So, we have to evolve too. That's. How I see it regardless of hp kudos or not.
paradigmsearch, I am being careful. But now into my fifth-year of HubPages, I have NO hubs chosen as Editor's Choice. Honestly I feel left out of the loop.
Do you have any uncommon hobbies Kenneth?
Like, making birdhouses or using fimo clay or anything like that? Interested in medieval armor or old coins?
They tend to focus on unusual or in depth articles about a person's passions or deep interests.
I real about your love hate relationship with May. Maybe you should write about social classifications that harm young people's spirit. I come from a rural area and as a young person felt out of place around the more urban and stuck up crowd because they tended to look down on people from my area. School was hard due to a class system of cliques.
People were either from town and acted superior. Or from the sticks and saw as low class or dumb when it wasn't accurate. It was a very poisonous environment to grow to maturity in but also strengthened my character and gave me a thick skin.
I related very much to your story. It was awesome that you shared it with me.
Kenneth, I'd be glad to help you write an editor's choice. Every time I have gone for one I get it. It really is not as difficult as it might seem. The best way to do it is to leave out any ads and shoot for something they don't have much of in their articles.
I write for a living. I am a hubber for fun and a writing community. I just love to make friends and help others and share my knowledge. An editor's choice, I have found, is close to the 1250 word goal and uses low competition but popular keywords. usually two of each chose one that pertains to your subject. AND right when published, it tends to spark a rush to read by fellow hubbers.
Both of mine had 50 reads within a few hours of being featured. That's the only differences between the editor choice hubs I have and the ones not chosen. They started fast and started with a score close to 90 or above 90.
Really, there isn't anything great about either article other than how well they started off.
Hey, thanks a million for the super-nice comments about my "love/hate relationship with May." That made my night. And all of it is true. I still carry the scars as the hub states and I am not the only one. There were more from the rural school system who were never briefed or "walked though" the transition of going from a rural school to a city school, but to be honest, this was in the early 60's and things back then were solid black and white and nothing to muddy the waters, to be as pointed as I can.
One day things were okay. The next day I wanted to stay home and let my dad teach me how to farm for a living.
It was that bad.
Years ago I wanted to get someone to help me secure a government grant to study "test couples" from both school systems and then find out what income bracket each were in; what type of home; job, etc.
And publish the results in a noted magazine or newspaper. Then maybe changes might be made.
I will give your offer of helping me write an EC hub. I really will. I will contact you via email on your profile page.
I don't follow people whose content I don't enjoy, even if they follow me. Similarly, I do not expect people to continue to follow me if they do not truly enjoy what my passions contribute to them.
I know it impacts you in some kind of way when you see your follower numbers go down, but you have to understand that figures are a matter of indifference if you are truly passionate about what you're doing. If you believe what you're doing matters, what other people perceive is nothing of concern.
I rarely pay attention to them, actually I don't keep track of people I follow and people who follows me. I just follow someone who have great articles so there is little or no need from me to unfollow them.
This reply went over my head - I'm a technophobe. I have a Twitter account but never use it. Ought I to be doing so? And I haven't got to grips with SEO - what is the difference between black hat and white hat SEO?
Wikipedia does a nice job of explaining the difference between black hat and white hat SEO: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_en … techniques
The reply really isn't relevant because the thread is about followers on HubPages, not followers on Twitter. Although that's one of the reasons why we get these weird followers here on HP - they think it's like Twitter and they'll get some kind of benefit from following people mindlessly!
Black Hat SEO is using tricks to try to fool Google into sending your website or Hub more traffic. White hat is sticking to the rules and simply trying to create Hubs that the search engines can understand.
I mostly sell tees these days but this fascinating thread caught my eye.
Following has been proven to make lots of money. It needn't take much time because you only pretend to follow. Whereas everyone else does it for real.
Armed with that brilliant SEO knowledge - and by the way isn't SEO wonderful - I have been trying out tee sales using the follow method.
What I do is find a hopefully attractive or at least fairly attractive woman who is out shopping. I get my best tee ready and start following her. Eventually or quite soon if I bump into her on purpose she will notice me.
Then with luck she will see the tee I am holding out.
I am writing a book on this called "TEO - My Way". Tee Engine Optimisation - geddit. Love the internet.
Be careful following women around,Mark...you could be holding a stripped tee ,in the local jail!
Thank God you CAN read 'other people's' hubs without following them. All you gotta do is bookmark their profile page or memorize their username!
I do it all the while! ......
I don't "follow" people. I use my bookmarks.
I don't like to be "inundated" with everything .... I get overwhelmed too easily.
I know who I read, who I "follow" and I don't need the system to continually tell me who's just written or something .... I can find that for myself
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