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  1. RachaelOhalloran profile image90
    RachaelOhalloranposted 2 years ago

    This site is going by the name healthylivingbox which is the same site I had taken down 3 months ago when they had their own domain name of same name but dot net.

    The entries on this new site are older than the one I had taken down because it was a starter site. It gave links at the end of each post to the site I had taken down.

    So in 2013 - there are 483 hubpages posts
    and in 2014 there are 179 - so far.
    It is an active site.
    Please go protect your work. If you are in the Earnings program at HP and see you are not making much money, these sites are the reason why. awordlover's account has been hurt badly by these copied sites.  Did not make payout in February and will not make payout in March. All because of these sites.

    http:// healthylivingbox.blogspot. com/

    Please check the archives, it is easier to see the titles.
    Even hubbers who just joined as of 2 weeks ago, their work is there.

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      RachaelOhalloranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

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      2. AliciaC profile image96
        AliciaCposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        This is horrible news. Thank you so much for letting us know, Rachael. I see from your list that I have some emails to send today!

        1. RachaelOhalloran profile image90
          RachaelOhalloranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          follow this other forum topic too.
          http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/120933#post2564680

          I don't know if anyone saw this forum topic I made that you are now reading, but there are over 600 hubbers who have articles uploaded to healthylivingbox. for a total of over 1000 hubs stolen.

          I had the parent company taken down last year, I didn't know there were straggler sites that had links leading to the parent company.  If you go to your work - his post, it shows part of your hub, but then a link leading to the parent site, which is no longer there, thanks to my takedown. We just need to get this one down too because it misdirects traffic for us.

          Besides it is a Google site (they own blogger) and they will take it down.

          Karun. ru is a different matter.
          from the other forum. That is going to be harder. tell billybuc he has a few on there, and so do a some of his followers. Anyone who wonders why they aren't making money on HP = traffic getting misdirected could  be a possible reason.
          The account I moderate for awordlover has 21 hubs copied to that  kakun site. I don't have what it takes to do all that work. I'm going out with my family today and I'll tackle it on Monday.

          I wish anyone who pursues this over the weekend very good luck . This has got to stop.

    2. Act 3 profile image90
      Act 3posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks for this info. I need to double check; one of the titles is very close to one of mine. My first check found two of my hubs at this site:
      http://the-alps (dot) us/
      and I suspect there are lots of other hubbers' hubs there.
      Also one hub at:
      http://www.sarenvers(dot)com/ (Beauty up my Life).
      I'm in the process of putting together DMCA notices.

      1. RachaelOhalloran profile image90
        RachaelOhalloranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        go to http:// healthylivingbox.blogspot. com/ and click on the titles. I only copied the titles to give anyone a heads up if they had a similar. The links on the blog are clickable, so go look to see if it is yours or not. There is a separate form for blogger.com
        https://support.google.com/legal/troubl … ts=1115645

        1. Act 3 profile image90
          Act 3posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks Rachael - they have my title, but there is no content.

          1. RachaelOhalloran profile image90
            RachaelOhalloranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Good luck on your DMCA's. It's a nuisance to us, but if it results in a takedown, then it's worth it.

          2. RachaelOhalloran profile image90
            RachaelOhalloranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            You need to check again. All the titles have content. There is not one empty article under a title because I looked at over 10 categories full of articles.

            The reason I did that is because I found some titles that were similar to awordlover's articles but the article was not hers. Then I found some of the titles of hubbers' works that did not match their articles in entirety - only portions matched.

            In many cases, they took a title from one hub author and put content from another hub author to place in their article.  So far today, I have found 17 that have awordlover's work but not her titles. Large paragraphs of her articles are mixed with others to condense into one article.

            The site is a capsulized version of Hubpages. It looks like they went about it as a pick and choose, trying to get the hubs that would draw the most traffic, maybe. I don't know, but that's what it looks like.

            I found several paragraphs from awordlover's MS articles condensed into several arthritis articles.  I found paragraphs from "how to" on creative writing mixed in with other writers who also wrote 'how to" articles on writing. They took a lot from billybuc and even left his picture on the listing so you can see it is his, just going down the title list.

            I sent an email as per Writer Fox's instructions (TYVM) and filed the way he directed and can only wait and see what happens from here.  If enough of us get attention to this, then the rest won't have to do anything because the site will just be taken down.

            Then we will have to be vigilant for where it pops up again, because I'm sure they kept copies of their uploads after doing all that translating with a program that didn't even correctly translate. Some are so totally off the mark with what American words mean (or are out of context) and it is very evident in their translations.

  2. Suzanne Day profile image96
    Suzanne Dayposted 2 years ago

    I strongly feel that Hubpages needs to assist in these massive article copying sites. It's OK for individual authors to chase a couple of articles of their own, but seriously, if there are thousands of hubs stolen, I feel that Hubpages should step in to protect their writers and the integrity of the site.

    1. Barbara Kay profile image86
      Barbara Kayposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I agree and there is a way to prevent copying and pasting. The reason I know is I found an article with large sections from one of my hubs. When I tried to copy and paste it, so I could send it in an email to them, I couldn't. So there is a way to do it. Where is Hubpages on this one.

      1. Suzanne Day profile image96
        Suzanne Dayposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        No right click etc?

        1. Barbara Kay profile image86
          Barbara Kayposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Right.

      2. RachaelOhalloran profile image90
        RachaelOhalloranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        There is a way to disable it so no one can right click to get it. I do it on my blog, it ticks off readers, but I don't care.
        Here is a forum that talks about the pros and cons
        http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7370 … y-web-page

        1. Suzanne Day profile image96
          Suzanne Dayposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I think this has been brought up before and was a problem with HP programming and couldn't be done, though it was thought about. It would help dramatically if no right click on pics or text could be done!!!

          1. Marisa Wright profile image94
            Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            It wouldn't really.   The big problem with theft on HubPages isn't from individuals copying a chunk of an article.  It's with professionals using scraping software, and right-click protection won't stop that.

            1. Suzanne Day profile image96
              Suzanne Dayposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              True. I saw there was a lot of scraping software available. But no right click might get rid of a few stupid people.

            2. RachaelOhalloran profile image90
              RachaelOhalloranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              In the past month, whole articles have been copied from awordlover's hubs. The scraping was bad also, about 90 sites with about 200 scraped content citings that I filed against - primarily Wordpress.com. I just received the last report from them that all have been removed and I checked to make sure. But then the real work begins. I have to go to URL removal and put each one in for removal so that Anne DiGeorge's name stops coming up in the search results, so URL removal takes those out since the sites are no longer live.
              But all  of  the full content copies have not been removed and they should be easier to prove since the whole article is there word for word. The scraper should take longer to prove because they really have to look for individual phrases to  locate them unless they have some sort of reverse scraper tool to find them! . Since I have been taking care of awordlover's account (June 2013), I have filed no less than 275 DMCA for fully copied hubs and about 200 for scraped content. Any way I look at it, this is work I shouldn't have to do. If right click were disabled so they can't copy the work - by scrapers or by viewing (copy pasting), then it would make being here on HP a pleasure. Lately it is not a  pleasure.

              1. Marisa Wright profile image94
                Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Can you explain what you perceive is the difference between scraping and copying?   They are the same thing.   Do you mean "spun" (reworded)?

                I'm amazed that Wordpress.com is hosting these sites, as you can't make money on free Wordpress.com sites so I can't see why scrapers would be on there. 



                No you don't.   They will disappear naturally with time.   The URL removal just gets it gone faster.



                It's just the nature of writing on an article site, I'm afraid.  HubPages is a magnet for scrapers and copiers and always has been - just look at the related searches under this thread, and you'll see this has been going on for years.   Pre-Panda, you could make big money by setting up a scraper website using a source like HubPages to create a huge site with a constant flow of fresh content - exactly what Google was looking for.   Google is tougher on duplicate content these days, but there are still plenty of "internet gurus" flogging the idea to newbies, and so it continues.

                1. RachaelOhalloran profile image90
                  RachaelOhalloranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Marisa, I have fair knowledge of the differences between the two since I've been filing DMCA removals on awordlover's behalf since last June. Some people here on HP have been so kind to explain to me the differences and Google has returned some of my  filings telling me that what I thought was copied content was indeed scraped because they have a separate form just for scraped content and I was directed to fill out that form instead.

                  With all that said, the site that now looks exactly like Hubpages, because it IS exactly like Hubpages

                  called kakun.ru

                  is where my attention is going to be for the forseeable future because there are many of awordlover's articles copied in entirety (copied content) or selected phrases (scraped content) mixed in with other copied hubs on this site.

                  1. Marisa Wright profile image94
                    Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    I've learned something new in that case.  Do you have some links you could point me to, to understand the difference?   I do know about the scraper reporting tool, but I understood this was simply  to make it easier to report sites which were copying en masse from another site - not because scraping and copying were two different things.  Also it only reports to Google, and doesn't necessarily get the site removed from the SERPS

                    http://www.searchenginejournal.com/matt … ent/92953/

                    I never bother filing a DMCA with Google anyway.   I'm not satisfied with getting the site removed from the search engines - I want to get their site closed down and hopefully get them banned from Adsense, so I always go for the hosting company and Adsense.  If those work, the site will disappear from the SERPs in its own good time anyway.



                    It looks as though it has already been removed.  Besides, I'm not sure I understand why it would require so much attention?   If you file with the hosting company, you don't have to file a separate DMCA for each individual article - just list the lot on one email, using the correct wording, and send it to the correct email address, and you're done.

            3. RachaelOhalloran profile image90
              RachaelOhalloranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              The theft on Hubpages lately is from people who are either still on Hubpages with dormant accounts or former hubbers on Hubpages who are still here with ghost accounts. There are several forums in last few days on this topic. The one I am writing about here is a hubber who copied all the ones listed at the top of this forum page.

              Do not go by the title. Go to the site and click on it to see if it is your work. he changed some of the titles. I found awordlover's work under a different title, same article.  So click and check,don't go by the title I gave you at top.

              I resent that he had the nerve to copy any of us when he knows the rules. His account has no posts, he's been a member for 3 years. And stolen hubs have been going on for a long time, but I bet this isn't his first claim to fame making these two websites to steal our work. He was also stupid because he left names on many of the copied work.

      3. ChristinS profile image92
        ChristinSposted 2 years ago in reply to this



        I agree, disabling copy and paste won't stop it - but it sure would make it harder to scrape the content.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image94
          Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Not really, because scrapers use software that can bypass all that.

    2. ologsinquito profile image94
      ologsinquitoposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I appreciate the new copied hubs feature, but I agree we need more help to fight this plague.

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    Bronwyn Hansenposted 2 years ago

    HubPages remains the only site that I have ever had my work stolen from. This is why I have delayed publishing anything since I reactivated my account here.

    I write on several other sites - commonly criticized in the HP forums - where this has never been an issue for me.

    Surely there is something that HP can do to increase security of members' works?

    1. lobobrandon profile image83
      lobobrandonposted 2 years ago

      hmm mine's linked to on the home page itself... So it's just put up: Green apple benefits - 10 health benefits of green apples

      Weird! It's linking to another scraper site that I filed a DMCA against a few months back.

    2. Nadine May profile image91
      Nadine Mayposted 2 years ago

      I just looked and they seem to target hubs on health issues or treatments. Ive not spotted any of mine, but thanks for the warning

    3. Shyron E Shenko profile image85
      Shyron E Shenkoposted 2 years ago

      I just this minute attempted to go to this site and it says. "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage"

      1. RachaelOhalloran profile image90
        RachaelOhalloranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        My first thought was great! They took it down. But, when I went to the site, it is still there.
        Use a different browser like Chrome or Firefox. IE doesn't open all webpages.

     
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