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Is There a Hidden Agenda?

  1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
    Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago

    Just out of curiosity—why is it when someone tries to introduce a positive thought there will be at least one individual who will interject a contradictory comment even when it’s non-solicited? Is it because …
    a.    Some people just enjoy debating ANYTHING
    b.    Some people don’t know HOW to think positive
    c.    Some people just don’t think …

    1. Susana S profile image92
      Susana Sposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I'm going for...
      d. there will always be people that see things differently.

      1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
        Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Yes ... That too!

    2. janshares profile image87
      jansharesposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I'll go with . . .
      a and b
      Peace . . .

      1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
        Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Kool ... Great answer!

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      Grey Templesposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      It is because there always has to be someone that has to stir the pot and make an argument.  This is why I left HP and just came back.

      1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
        Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I understand thank you very much.  Just wondered if I was a majority of one!

        1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
          Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          And let me just add to the comment I made previously ... I have also considered leaving HP for the same exact reasons. I seriously try to avoid controversial subject because I choose not to engage in stimulating conversations that become "overly stimulating."

          However, there are the rare moments when I think out loud about certain things.

    4. Phyllis Doyle profile image95
      Phyllis Doyleposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      All of the above. I like being part of good discussions, even if there are different opinions -- but, I see no reason to be part of a battle of words that go on forever.

      1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
        Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        True

    5. cfin profile image78
      cfinposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      d. Hate, jealousy, negativity and a general desire to bring others down.

      1. frantisek78 profile image86
        frantisek78posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Or maybe even genuinely disagreeing with someones point of view. It's not all as negative as you make it out to be. Of course there are people who do this out of the reasons you mentioned, but by no means a majority.

        1. Kathleen Cochran profile image85
          Kathleen Cochranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          You are right.  In 3 years I can count on one hand the number of people I've encountered who have been overtly rude here on HP.  That's encouraging - until you get zapped by one of the few.

        2. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
          Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          And it is that small minority that makes, unfortunately the greatest impact. Sensationalism sells ... unfortunately!

    6. dilyana profile image59
      dilyanaposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      There are a lot of knee-jerk people, whose first reaction is to contradict. Not all of them do it deliberately. Let's forgive them, but that doesn't mean to put up with their behavior. They could be energy vampires. It's serious. Often we don't realize it. I also agree with a., b. and c.

      1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
        Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I appreciate your input. Energy vampires ... wow ... good word usage :-)

    7. Dean Traylor profile image85
      Dean Traylorposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      It sounds like you ran into a....troll. These people get a morbid fascination and "thrill" from attacking individuals or trying to generate controversy. Often, you can ignore them. Other times, you can give them a taste of their own medicine. I've many epic battles with them on Twitter.

  2. Jodah profile image86
    Jodahposted 2 years ago

    That's exactly why I don't visit forums very often, especially if religion is mentioned. a. and b.

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks for you comment. I definitely agree with you 200%

    2. Phyllis Doyle profile image95
      Phyllis Doyleposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I put a block on the religious forums and my stress level has dropped considerably.

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        mbuggiehposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I think I need to do the same.

        Block all forums, hubs, questions that deal with religion AND particularly that deal with religion and "the gay".

        1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
          Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Sounds like a very wise choice to me ... why subject yourself to something if there is a very small chance you will be made to feel uncomfortable?

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            mbuggiehposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Exactly!

  3. The Examiner-1 profile image83
    The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago

    You already answered it. Just put a, b and c all together.

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Gotta luv this answer!

  4. ChristinS profile image93
    ChristinSposted 2 years ago

    People are passionate and like to express themselves and there is room for all sorts of ideas.  Debate is not a bad thing if it gets people thinking and pondering all sorts of perspectives. It's how we learn.  There is a difference though in disagreeing tactfully - than in say trolling just looking to pick a fight. 

    I'm all for disagreement and discussion - not so much for name calling, antagonizing, starting trouble for the sake of it, etc.

    I don't think it's a "hidden" agenda at all - in fact I think it kind of puts it all out there right in the open smile. The exception would be trolling - where it typically is a hidden way to incite others into a fight.  You know the ones, they say something controversial or mean spirited, but pretend to be saying it in all seriousness just to get a rise out of people.  Trolling does not equal debate / discussion though smile

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I would agree up to a point. I have found that there are people who find the challenge of a heated discussion undesirable. To them it may be even intimidating. Everything in its place as my late mother used to say.

      If the topic is one that is of a question/what's your opinion sort ... then by all means those who are interested in the camaraderie should participate. However, there are topics where people just wish to express their appreciation for a "job well done." There is only an expression of gratitude and this is where I truly believe there is a "hidden agenda" if I say "I truly enjoy the acting talents of Steven Seagal and someone turns around and states "but he was lousy in ..."  I, Me ... Jacqueline doesn't appreciate it!

      1. frantisek78 profile image86
        frantisek78posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I don't see why it is OK for someone to say they like something, but "bad" or negative if they say they don't like something? No one has to get sucked into an argument, but people do have a right so say what they think. There seems to a bias against perceived "negative" comments as if they weren't as valid as positive comments. Being too positive can be just as closed-minded as being too negative.

        1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
          Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          That is an interesting concept. Telling someone "you are just too positive ... you need to be more negative." Humm!

          1. psycheskinner profile image80
            psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            There is also the interesting phenomenon of people complaining about negativity possibly not seeing that they are being negative themselves?

            1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
              Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Let's look at these two statements:

              "No one cares about your stupid comments" vs. "I can definitely understand your point of view however, what do YOU think about ..."

              It turns the focus on the other person but in a way that is not argumentative or destructive. Pointing out that there are people who seem to focus on using negative comments is not the same (in my humble opinion) as being negative. At least it should not be seen that way (again in my humble opinion.)

              1. psycheskinner profile image80
                psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Is that meant to relate to my post, because I don't really see it.  Negative means expressing refusal or opposition. If you actually meant being insulting and rude--that's a whole different thing which I am sure most of us can agree about.  It is a forum rule after all.

                But the OP was about wanting to debate and being negative. Both of which strike me as valid approaches on a forum.

                1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
                  Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Actually, no. If my point of view has seemed to be personalize ... then accept my humble apology. I am just giving an example of how words can be used in both a positive and negative manner. I shall humbly agree to disagree. I have no desire to create a chaotic atmosphere but to look out of my window onto my beautiful deck and marvel how wonderful nature is.

                  I shall in like manner turn my attention to such pass times as working on my novel and enjoying my daughter's lovely pictures of Jamaica and desperately wishing I was with her!

                  Have a simply lovely day everyone and thank you for a most interesting and stimulating conversation! Au revoir!

                2. relache profile image89
                  relacheposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Debate only truly happens when you have humans who have been taught the skills to debate.  Logical thinking, informational progression, researching, historical precedent...to me, all that underpins a debate.

                  What I see in the forums is people who say the same unquantified/unqualified statements of personal opinion over and over, getting more and more indignant and insulting each time, and they genuinely think they are debating.

                  1. psycheskinner profile image80
                    psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    I agree, but that was the behavior raised in OP.  And debate strikes me as a good thing, negativity per se as neutral. Rudeness, irrationality and pique--not that is what annoys me.  Not just someone contradicting an assertion in the negative for a rational reason.

  5. Kiss andTales profile image22
    Kiss andTalesposted 2 years ago

    I agree ! ChristinS

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I really don’t understand this concept of “trolling” to use the vernacular.  What exactly is this?

      1. ChristinS profile image93
        ChristinSposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        From Wikipedia

        " In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] "

        1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
          Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          This "trolling concept" sound simply deplorable! For any person to want to create such chaos is someone lacking in total consideration for another. How horrible ...

          1. Phyllis Doyle profile image95
            Phyllis Doyleposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            It is horrible and very distasteful, Jacqueline. It shows that some trolls (with the descriptions ChristinS gave us) that some people just have a very low and wicked mentality.  It happens all the time in our forums and even in comments on hubs. This is one reason I very much appreciate the fact that HubPages has given us options to not receive notices on forums we do not want to get involved in or even see in our newsfeed, and to be able to delete comments on our hubs.

            1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
              Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

              I never really realize how "cutting" some people could be until recently. I just don't understand what pleasure anyone can get from hurting others. I get misty-eyed when I see a sad scene on Telly!

  6. Kathleen Cochran profile image85
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 years ago

    I can usually handle different points of view, but every once in a while someone will just push my buttons.  I recently posted a hub straight from research on a topic that is in the news right now.  A reader took exception to my point of view but attacked me personally for the content.  And I do mean personally.  It was all I could do not to return her venom in kind, but then I thought:  what's the point? 

    We've all been there.  Hang in there.

  7. john000 profile image92
    john000posted 2 years ago

    I can see that all folks here have pretty serious views. What confuses me forever is what positive and negative means. For instance, if I say that Adolf Hitler was a wonderful person, is that positive? If I say that J.Edgar Hoover was a cross-dresser, is that negative. If I say that J.Edgar Hoover was not a cross-dresser, is that positive or negative?
    It seems that when people use the term positive or negative, they usually have a political agenda. Is there anyway that an individual can express an opinion about sexual preference without being demonized? We are in a time and place where simply refusing to write about some subjects is probably more constructive. Of course, that might be a positive or negative view.

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      As in "positive attitude" it means to emphasize what is laudable, hopeful or to the good; constructive.

      Therefore, I feel safe to say that what is positive does not violate the feelings of others but is a devise used to uplift, encourage and produce a feeling of well being.

      When our comments are criticized in such a way that it makes us feel unhappy then this is not a "positive reaction." Being considerate of other people's feelings whether we are addressing what someone wrote or face-to-face interactions should be the desire of every SANE human being. And it is human nature to defend ourselves when we feel threaten whether real or imagined.

      1. Jodah profile image86
        Jodahposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Here here, I agree totally with these points Jacqueline. I joined a seemingly innocent forum titled something like "what is the best book you have read recently?" It was going fine until a commenter (who is not a Hubber but frequents forums, mainly on religion) chimed in saying 'origin of the Species' then commenced berating everyone who hadn't read it or didn't want to as 'narrow minded-Christians'. The original topic was nothing about religion.

        1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
          Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          That sounds a lot like a Predator to me. Predators lie in wait for unsuspecting people and then attempt to cause mayhem. I am sorry that you had to have such a negative experience. We should be able to enjoy friendly interactions without interference from such people.

        2. Phyllis Doyle profile image95
          Phyllis Doyleposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          These types of attitudes is exactly why I backed out of all religious discussions, Jodah. It simply is not worth my time and effort. smile

      2. Phyllis Doyle profile image95
        Phyllis Doyleposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        +1111

      3. john000 profile image92
        john000posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        If everyone wrote with what Jacqueline 4390 refers to as "positive attitiude" we could probably even write about sex without hurting anybody's feelings. I, for one, am not holding my breath.

        1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
          Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          It is indeed so very sad that "civilized man" cannot work toward a common good without someone saying something negative, hurtful or hateful to someone else. What necessitates the desire to be destructive? What damage will it do to be polite, courteous and considerate?

          1. frantisek78 profile image86
            frantisek78posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            This is human nature though. There are always people who will play the Devil's Advocate. Some do it in a nicer way, and some in  a more rude way. Some people genuinely try to point out a different way of seeing things, whilst others will simply be having a bad day and will get their frustrations and anger out in rude comments. Just see things for what they are instead of trying to unrealistically force everyone to be positive and "civilized".

            1. janshares profile image87
              jansharesposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              As one of those hubbers who has tried to "unrealistically force everyone to be positive and 'civilized,' I really appreciate your wisdom and perspective. Thanks. smile

      4. frantisek78 profile image86
        frantisek78posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        But sometimes "negative" comments can be just as constructive as "positive" comments. Sometimes it is only being told something with "negative" honestly that gets some people to realize what they were doing wrong instead of trying to point it out using a kid gloved hand.

        1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
          Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I personally prefer the "kid gloves" approach. To each his own. I will not now or ever personally agree that purposely hurting someone is "for their own good." I am a firm believer of the Law of Reciprocity: what you give will return to you. And, usually it is a lot worse.

          1. psycheskinner profile image80
            psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            "honestly that gets some people to realize what they were doing wrong" is not the same as "deliberately hurting someone".

            1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
              Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

              I never said that it was ... what I am saying is that there is a diplomatic way to tell anybody something without being offensive. My emphasis is on tactfulness which is not a negative trait. It is having concern for the feels of others. Some may call it being "civilized."

              1. frantisek78 profile image86
                frantisek78posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Have you never met anyone who simply does not understand tactful hints and kind words and will only react if they are talked to in a more forceful way? Your theory would only work if everyone were "civilized" and had they same calm personality that would allow them to listen to and accept "positive" criticism. A finger wag and slap on the wrist will not work for many people as well as a more forceful approach.

            2. Jodah profile image86
              Jodahposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              I see where Jacqueline is coming from here. Constructive criticism is fine and correcting someone if they have made an incorrect statement is too, but on the Internet you have to be more tactful in the way you do it than if you were talking to them in person. It is difficult to read the intonation and intent in the written word without the added assistance of tone of voice and body language, so if someone is a littlest sensitive about a certain subject they can take your helpful remark as harsh criticism if it is not worded carefully. I agree you should never deliberately try to hurt someone.

  8. ChristinS profile image93
    ChristinSposted 2 years ago

    I would add though that people are often emotionally attached to their opinions - in that they take a constructive criticism of an idea as a personal assault.  This happens a lot in forums - you can disagree with a persons idea and be respectful, but some people will still take the disagreement with their idea as you being a bully or they will see themselves as a victim - when in actuality you were only pointing out disagreement with their ideas.  I have many people who I deeply respect that I disagree with vehemently - but I still have love for the person even if I don't like their particular mindset on things.

    We live in a vast world full of different people with a myriad of experiences, perspectives and opinions all their own.  I think it's terrible to sanitize everything so much to avoid hurting feelings that good ideas get lost.  It is definitely a delicate balance.

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      What separates humans from lower forms of animals is our ability to emphasize. Intelligent beings with sensitive natures are normally very artistic and caring. Most people are known by their words ... not having the ability to "read minds" we are sometimes limited to the "verbal responses" of others.

      Without the ability to "read" body language I can only translate your feelings by what you write and the way in which you write it. I can't "see" that you only mean well if the "tone" of your writing denotes otherwise. Expressions like "please" ... "thank you" ... "if you don't mind" and the very popular "don't take this personal" a some ways of buffering your words.

      However, if you criticize my words ... you ARE criticizing me :-)
      After all, they are my words!

      1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
        Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        If you don't mind my humble opinion :-)

        1. ChristinS profile image93
          ChristinSposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Not at all smile - I have found though that sometimes phrases like "No offense" lol - are code for "I'm about to offend you" lol. 

          By all means, people can - and should - be polite and respectful in their statements.  I've just learned that sometimes, especially around subjects that people tend to be very passionate about - religion, politics, parenting styles etc. that sometimes if you say "I disagree because this this and that" - they reach the conclusion that if you disagree with me, you are attacking me.  - precisely for the reasons you just stated actually - that in writing especially it's hard to gauge tone, intent etc. and a lot can get lost that way.  Communication on the net is certainly like the wild west sometimes.  I think too the anonymity of the net gives people a lot of courage to cross the line to personal insults.  Things you wouldn't dare say to someone's face are somehow easier when it's someone you don't really know and it's on a keyboard.

          1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
            Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Right you are ... Hahahahaha! I agree with this comment "on point." People do tend to be bolder online. Me? I have mellowed 200% according to my face-to-face buddies :-)

            Perhaps its age or finally being able to get it right but regardless I try very hard to consider the feelings of others (and ... I did say try!)

  9. ShirleyJCJohnson profile image88
    ShirleyJCJohnsonposted 2 years ago

    There are some people, when given a choice, would rather be mean and malicious, rather than be positive and offer suggestions instead of criticism.  It's inevitable.  Personally, I don't like offering critical words because words can hurt like nobody's business...I'm just saying...

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      So true, so very true. Words can really, really, really hurt. I have the scars to prove it.

      1. ShirleyJCJohnson profile image88
        ShirleyJCJohnsonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        You know as a child I learned "Sticks and stones may break my bones; but, names will never hurt me."  That is so not true.  And I try very diligently to teach my children the value of the words they choose.  Once a word, name, etc. is spoken, you can never take it back.  It may be forgiven; but, never forgotten.

        1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
          Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          This is so true, Shirley! Words have a much longer lasting affect than those "sticks and stones." No matter how you try; the words linger on! This is a wonderful lesson you are teaching your children. It never hurts to treat people in a kind, courteous and respectable manner. It will pay off ... maybe not now but it will pay off!

  10. word55 profile image82
    word55posted 2 years ago

    Don't let it be an issue. Don't be bothered by it. Address them if you feel the need to or keep going if you don't :-)

  11. limpet profile image59
    limpetposted 2 years ago

    Growing up in the 1950's which was a great tyme to be alive when everything was nieve and innocent so to speak we never heard of the 'hidden agenda' until after college life. Well it came to pass that i got involved in a hidden agenda or in another term 'feathering one's own nest' and it soon became apparent that perhaps there is a hidden agenda behind practically everthing! That is why i decided to become involved in the counter culture and i reckon even that has been penetrated with the buying and selling of consumables. We probably don't even know what the biggest hidden agenda is but what does the media persist in trying to tell us daily in the news?:

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Hmmm!

  12. krantcents profile image60
    krantcentsposted 2 years ago

    It is very simple, we all tend to interpret information based on our own experience. It is part of the reason, people react differently to information. I think the key is to not take it personally.

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      In theory this is very sound advise ... however, there are times when I find it difficult to "not take things personally" especially when it is a direct attack against something I have said. So maybe its safer to just "stir clear" of certain subjects :-)

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        mbuggiehposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I think you are right.

        I need to learn to avoid things---and opinions, most of which I can never affect in any positive way.

        Sometimes I do wonder, though, why there is so much religious fanaticism in this particular medium; why do much of the space of Hubpages is devoted to a decidedly right-wing Christian agenda.

        1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
          Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Perhaps the key is "fanaticism" ...

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            mbuggiehposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            I hear you.

            Fanatics and fanaticism sells soap; informed and intelligent discussion does not.

  13. Kathleen Cochran profile image85
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 years ago

    I hate to hear moderates, the voices of reason, concede discussions of important topics of the day.  If you/we don't lift our voices the extremes will be the only voices heard.  I'd hate to see that happen to HP.

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      When a lion roars it evokes fear and distress. A gentle voice "turns away wrath." I prefer to be a gentle voice.

      1. Kathleen Cochran profile image85
        Kathleen Cochranposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Moi aussi.

        1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
          Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Oui madame

  14. psycheskinner profile image80
    psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago

    It is also true that forums are not just for show and tell.  You are--in most cases-- inviting comment, elaboration or disagreement from other members. To just display something you want appreciated without comment or critique, there are better venues (like a hub).

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Perhaps ... however some comments wouldn't actually rate an entire hub.

      1. frantisek78 profile image86
        frantisek78posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Any idea or theory can be elaborated into a longer hub where you could explain your point of view in a more in-depth way.

  15. Fryday profile image85
    Frydayposted 2 years ago

    I say A,B,C, and D.  LOL.  It's a crazy world out there friend!

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Right you are! Haha!

  16. C.V.Rajan profile image69
    C.V.Rajanposted 2 years ago

    e) To tease too egoistic and too sensitive people who are averse to any criticism and enjoy seeing them exploding!

    1. Jacqueline4390 profile image89
      Jacqueline4390posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Sounds very much like instigating. How very sad. Why would I want to upset somebody intentionally?

      1. C.V.Rajan profile image69
        C.V.Rajanposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        It is my opinion that oversensitive people who are averse to criticism make their own life miserable and also make the life of those close to them miserable. They tend to lack humor. I love humor. I get a sort of sadistic joy in teasing them and I chuckle and laugh when they hit me back in vengeance!

  17. limpet profile image59
    limpetposted 2 years ago

    I think that the real 'hidden agenda' is actually within us all. We all have the potential to increase our talents through this personal awareness.

  18. relache profile image89
    relacheposted 2 years ago

    In my experience, the scenario raised in the OP is not debate.  I agree that those interjecting humans may *think* they are debating, when it strikes me a lot more like a script-free reenactment of the Monty Python skit about the argument clinic.

    What the OP is on about is explained in that skit:  automatic gainsayers.

  19. ddsurfsca profile image77
    ddsurfscaposted 2 years ago

    It is my observation that there are some people who like to always be right, and always think they are correct in their thinkingev3n if they are changing the topic.

 
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