Has anyone noticed a marked change in their hub scores? I only noticed today so not sure if it happened today or in the recent past.. But some of my hubs have seen a marked increase from 70's and 80's into the 90's and even a 100...
Is anyone else seeing a real change?
Here's something to chew on:
Yesterday I went into all of my hubs that had dropped below 70 and edited them to conform with mobile standards.
Each one went up about a point.
Today I went back in and made the ads right only, and now all of those hub scores have dropped back into the high 60's again!
Guess what THAT means??
Well, I'm not editing any of mine for that purpose. I've already checked how they look in mobile, and they're fine as they are.
More important for me is to edit eight still unrevised hubs I published four years ago. Most of those are now scoring quite well compared to some of my newer, higher quality hubs.
I did none of these things and went up 3 points overnight.
Yes, but you're better than us.
I have stayed at 77 for a few weeks now, and until I can take the system down, I tell myself that everyone over 80 are overachievers.
I might be wrong, but I think Psycheskinner is talking about hub score. At least, that's what this thread is about.
Im taking down all the scores. Im working from within... as soon as my system's perfected... no one will ever again be judged by the quality of his work!
If you're talking about HubberScore, it may help to know that I have written the grand total of 15 Hubs in the last 12 months, and have barely touched my old ones.
However I am active on the forums every day. If I disappear for a while, my HubberScore drops. However it doesn't seem to matter how my HubScores fluctuate, it has very little effect.
It is my goal to be the 'cause of the implosion of the hubber score. Some how, some way... I will destroy it. I am their worst nightmare... it's possible it will be more like a series of unpleasant thoughts than actual nightmares, but they're going down just the same! (Eventually.)
Publish another "cure-cancer" recipe and let's see what happens.
Meanwhile, do publish some more of your recipes. If you can come up with a total of 10 that have any sort of common theme, I'll hype them on my website. And it will be interesting to see what your hubber score does.
Indeed. I was suggesting that mobile formatting was not part of the equation for my weird and sudden hubscore change.
Make everything full-width, including ads (for mobile view) and they'll go up again.
I did a sample like that and they went up a total of 1 point each!
When put the ads back the way they were, they dropped right back down again.
I do not plan to upgrade 135 articles just to get my scores on each article up only one point, especially when they were far, far above that prior to this issue.
TimeTraveller, I'm still not getting why you're even trying. You should know that scores and earnings potential aren't related, and it would be mad to make changes on successful Hubs just to improve a meaningless score, because you might spoil something that's working.
I worry that down the road those hub scores will affect hubber scores negatively, and then Google will stop indexing my work in a productive way.
For the first time since I've been here I'm getting what I consider to be good views and good money, and I sure don't want to lose that if I can avoid doing so.
If those scores are so meaningless, why do they have them?
"I worry that down the road those hub scores will affect hubber scores negatively, and then Google will stop indexing my work in a productive way."
There is no way Google will stop indexing your work due to a low Hubber score, Google doesn't even know Hubber scores exist.
Are you confusing indexing with no-follow? If your HubberScore drops too low, HubPages will mark your Hubs "no follow" - but that does NOT harm the Hub. All it does is mark hyperlinks within the Hub as "no follow", not the Hub itself. The only people who need to worry about that are people trying to promote other websites by linking to them.
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/123705? … ost2619519
I'm going to try to find the link to Simone and Derek's original threads.
I did this with my (now) lowest ranking hub, and it went up three points over night. But it had lost 10 or twelve points, so that's not really a comparable gain.
I find it interesting, but wouldn't be happy if it returned to it's previous score by being forced into a certain format---or being forced to write for cell phones.
As others have said, in most cases my hubs looked fine for mobile.
The one I changed to all full width changed the value of the photos for the text they accompanied. Having photos inset is sometimes just what's needed, whereas the photo coming after an entire block of text, I feel detracts from the photos attention-keeping value AND the flow of the TEXT.
I just changed all of mine back to the way they were originally.
At some point the team will have to fix this problem, so I am with Marisa.
Yes, mine have also changed. I noticed it last night. It seems, in my case, that traffic is no longer a factor. I've compared quality, but that doesn't seem to be much of a factor, either.
One of my hubs that had a score of 100 has tumbled to 92, and I find myself as puzzled as ever.
I believe the fear-of-editing factor has also been removed. Every hub I've edited recently the hub score has remained the same or gone up.
Coincidentally this has naturally caused my hub score average to rise. But my hubber score hasn't budged. I guess I'm a permanent 87 (or lower) for the foreseeable future no matter how high my hub score average goes. I still haven't figured out which moderator is mad at me.
The hub I've mentioned on the other threads that suddenly went down eight points after editing is still stuck at 82.
The only sense I've found so far, before and after this change, is that the eight remaining hubs I published four years ago and haven't yet revised all have very low scores, which they deserve. I was obviously never afraid to edit those, because their scores could only rise--I just need to get around to doing it!
One of those, by the way, was nominated for a HubNugget back in the day.
I am constantly surprised by the way my hubs are scored.
This is because every one of them gets featured within two hours, and most have acceptable to very good views.
I have no problems with structure or grammar, and yet the scores on many of my articles remain low, even on those that get very, very good views.
This affects, of course, my overall hubber score, which, while not terrible, has dropped 5 points from where it was a month ago, and I see no reason for it.
Personally, I think they ought to forget all of the scores and just let us write. Let the readers and Google decide what is good and what they like.
I do think that keeping the warnings about low views or poor content should remain, but other than that, the team is upsetting people for no apparent reason. At the very least, they ought to offer some explanation for those low scores.
oops...just noticed that my score went up two points all of a sudden...but again, have no earthly clue as to why!
We'd all be spending considerably less time discussing this if a message came out---preferably just before or just after the drop. But now would still be good : )
I disagree - Obviously the scores and trying to figure out how they work keep us on our toes.
The probable reason for HP not officially announcing the algorythm change and what to do about it is that they are trying things out. It is by trial and error that we have survived successfully so far.
My overall conclusion from the many forum threads on this latest HP trauma indicates 5 things (apart from good grammar, uniqueness etc).
1. Have all the boxes ticked in the "Need Some Goals" feature (in edit mode).
2. Format for mobile view with all full-width photos and ads.
3. Edit old hubs to keep them "fresh".
4. Make sure your "latest activity" date is recent by participating.
5. Encourage reader engagement. People are lazy readers. Two tips to fully "engage" readers to get them to reach the end of a hub so they can rate and comment:
a) Alternate text with a non-text capsule (image, video, poll, map, related advert etc.) to brake up long text and lead readers onwards.
b) Keep the reader curious for more. End some text capsules with a promise/question/hint on what's coming next.
Just an update, I have a download of my stats from last year in September, so 11 months ago... I have not done any major changes, nor have I published since...
But the average scores have jumped by +6pts, some hubs having increased their individual scores by +20 pts while a few have dropped by up to -10 pts.. The ones that have dropped do deserve it in my opinion as they are the shorter ones with less pictures, etc.. The ones that have risen have many capsules of different types and fall within the "stella" hub category.
I was playing with my hubs a year ago to try to figure out why very similar hubs had very different scores which is why I have the download. Similar length hubs with the same number of videos, pictures, and other capsules would have very different scores even if traffic was similar - I gave up worrying about the scores as it is only the traffic from Google that really counts! But the scoring I could not figure out it seemed to be fairly random!! If I added capsules, sometimes the score would rise, sometimes drop - no sense!!
The only thing I did notice was that groups would rise or fall at the same time. So one week all of my Saudi hubs would drop by 2-4pts each another week they would rise.. other groups would not change at all. It was as if groups were "audited" together and either given a boost or a kick...
But the changes that were made at this time last year gave us a more stable hub and hubber score.
This recent change would not be explained by traffic changes as my traffic is probably a fraction lower than it was last year but my performing hubs are still the same etc..
Personally, I think something has changed even if they say it has not..... The difference is too great for it to be random!
Do hub scores matter? I never look at mine. I just look at traffic and earnings. I couldn't tell you if my scores have risen or fallen. Should I be tracking this?
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