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Hub Scores have gone up dramatically including a 100!

  1. LeanMan profile image82
    LeanManposted 2 years ago

    Has anyone noticed a marked change in their hub scores? I only noticed today so not sure if it happened today or in the recent past.. But some of my hubs have seen a marked increase from 70's and 80's into the 90's and even a 100...

    Is anyone else seeing a real change?

    1. Sed-me profile image83
      Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you Sir Braggy Britches.

      1. Ilona1 profile image76
        Ilona1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I wish the forum here had a "like" feature similar to facebook. I would have "liked" this quip, because it made me smile.

        1. Sed-me profile image83
          Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          lol. I was just teasing. He's a "fun hubber." smile

    2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Here's something to chew on:

      Yesterday I went into all of my hubs that had dropped below 70 and edited them to conform with mobile standards.

      Each one went up about a point.

      Today I went back in and made the ads right only, and now all of those hub scores have dropped back into the high 60's again!

      Guess what THAT means??

      1. Jayne Lancer profile image91
        Jayne Lancerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Well, I'm not editing any of mine for that purpose. I've already checked how they look in mobile, and they're fine as they are.

        More important for me is to edit eight still unrevised hubs I published four years ago. Most of those are now scoring quite well compared to some of my newer, higher quality hubs.

      2. psycheskinner profile image81
        psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I did none of these things and went up 3 points overnight.

        1. Sed-me profile image83
          Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, but you're better than us.
          I have stayed at 77 for a few weeks now, and until I can take the system down, I tell myself that everyone over 80 are overachievers.

          1. Jayne Lancer profile image91
            Jayne Lancerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            I might be wrong, but I think Psycheskinner is talking about hub score. At least, that's what this thread is about.

            1. Sed-me profile image83
              Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Im taking down all the scores. Im working from within... as soon as my system's perfected... no one will ever again be judged by the quality of his work!

              1. Rochelle Frank profile image89
                Rochelle Frankposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                "Judge not, ..."

                1. Sed-me profile image83
                  Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  You can't judge me if I don't use my real name!

              2. Marisa Wright profile image93
                Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                If you're talking about HubberScore, it may help to know that I have written the grand total of 15 Hubs in the last 12 months, and have barely touched my old ones. 

                However I am active on the forums every day.  If I disappear for a while, my HubberScore drops.  However it doesn't seem to matter how my HubScores fluctuate, it has very little effect.

                1. Sed-me profile image83
                  Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  It is my goal to be the 'cause of the implosion of the hubber score. Some how, some way... I will destroy it. I am their worst nightmare... it's possible it will be more like a series of unpleasant thoughts than actual nightmares, but they're going down just the same! (Eventually.)

                  1. paradigmsearch profile image85
                    paradigmsearchposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Publish another "cure-cancer" recipe and let's see what happens. big_smile

            2. psycheskinner profile image81
              psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Indeed.  I was suggesting that mobile formatting was not part of the equation for my weird and sudden hubscore change.

      3. Sue Adams profile image93
        Sue Adamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Make everything full-width, including ads (for mobile view) and they'll go up again.

        1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
          TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Sorry Sue:

          I did a sample like that and they went up a total of 1 point each!
          When put the ads back the way they were, they dropped right back down again.
          I do not plan to upgrade 135 articles just to get my scores on each article up only one point, especially when they were far, far above that prior to this issue.

          1. Marisa Wright profile image93
            Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            TimeTraveller, I'm still not getting why you're even trying.   You should know that scores and earnings potential aren't related, and it would be mad to make changes on successful Hubs just to improve a meaningless score, because you might spoil something that's working.

            1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
              TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Marisa:

              I worry that down the road those hub scores will affect hubber scores negatively, and then Google will stop indexing my work in a productive way.

              For the first time since I've been here I'm getting what I consider to be good views and good money, and I sure don't want to lose that if I can avoid doing so.

              If those scores are so meaningless, why do they have them?

              1. Marisa Wright profile image93
                Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                "I worry that down the road those hub scores will affect hubber scores negatively, and then Google will stop indexing my work in a productive way."

                There is no way Google will stop indexing your work due to a low Hubber score, Google doesn't even know Hubber scores exist.

                Are you confusing indexing with  no-follow?   If your HubberScore drops too low, HubPages will mark your Hubs "no follow" - but that does NOT harm the Hub.  All it does is mark hyperlinks within the Hub as "no follow", not the Hub itself.  The only people who need to worry about that are people trying to promote other websites by linking to them.

              2. Marisa Wright profile image93
                Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                This:
                http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/123705? … ost2619519

                I'm going to try to find the link to Simone and Derek's original threads.

                1. Jayne Lancer profile image91
                  Jayne Lancerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  I've found this, which is very interesting: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/107466

        2. RockyMountainMom profile image88
          RockyMountainMomposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I did this with my (now) lowest ranking hub, and it went up three points over night.  But it had lost 10 or twelve points, so that's not really a comparable gain.

          I find it interesting, but wouldn't be happy if it returned to it's previous score by being forced into a certain format---or being forced to write for cell phones. 

          As others have said, in most cases my hubs looked fine for mobile.

          The one I changed to all full width changed the value of the photos for the text they accompanied.  Having photos inset is sometimes just what's needed, whereas the photo coming after an entire block of text, I feel detracts from the photos attention-keeping value AND the flow of the TEXT.

          1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
            TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            I just changed all of mine back to the way they were originally.

            At some point the team will have to fix this problem, so I am with Marisa.

            1. RockyMountainMom profile image88
              RockyMountainMomposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              I'm not going to do more either, at least as far as pictures.  I feel I've already got the ones that can be wide, or at lest work that way, set that way.

  2. Jayne Lancer profile image91
    Jayne Lancerposted 2 years ago

    Yes, mine have also changed. I noticed it last night. It seems, in my case, that traffic is no longer a factor. I've compared quality, but that doesn't seem to be much of a factor, either.

    One of my hubs that had a score of 100 has tumbled to 92, and I find myself as puzzled as ever.

    1. janshares profile image87
      jansharesposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, mine are going down. No editing, traffic is good on one the other not so good but they dropped. It happens, probably no particular reason.

  3. paradigmsearch profile image85
    paradigmsearchposted 2 years ago

    I believe the fear-of-editing factor has also been removed. Every hub I've edited  recently the hub score has remained the same or gone up.

    Coincidentally  this has naturally caused my hub score average to rise. But my hubber score hasn't budged. I guess I'm a permanent 87 (or lower) for the foreseeable future no matter how high my hub score average goes. I still haven't figured out which moderator is mad at me. big_smile

    1. Jayne Lancer profile image91
      Jayne Lancerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      The hub I've mentioned on the other threads that suddenly went down eight points after editing is still stuck at 82.

      The only sense I've found so far, before and after this change, is that the eight remaining hubs I published four years ago and haven't yet revised all have very low scores, which they deserve. I was obviously never afraid to edit those, because their scores could only rise--I just need to get around to doing it!

      One of those, by the way, was nominated for a HubNugget back in the day.

      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I am constantly surprised by the way my hubs are scored. 

        This is because every one of them gets featured within two hours, and most have acceptable to very good views.

        I have no problems with structure or grammar, and yet the scores on many of my articles remain low, even on those that get very, very good views.

        This affects, of course, my overall hubber score, which, while not terrible, has dropped 5 points from where it was a month ago, and I see no reason for it.

        Personally, I think they ought to forget all of the scores and just let us write.  Let the readers and Google decide what is good and what they like.

        I do think that keeping the warnings about low views or poor content should remain, but other than that, the team is upsetting people for no apparent reason.  At the very least, they ought to offer some explanation for those low scores.

        1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
          TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          oops...just noticed that my score went up two points all of a sudden...but again, have no earthly clue as to why!

        2. RockyMountainMom profile image88
          RockyMountainMomposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          We'd all be spending considerably less time discussing this if a message came out---preferably just before or just after the drop.  But now would still be good  : )

  4. Sue Adams profile image93
    Sue Adamsposted 2 years ago

    I disagree - Obviously the scores and trying to figure out how they work keep us on our toes.



    The probable reason for HP not officially announcing the algorythm change and what to do about it is that they are trying things out. It is by trial and error that we have survived successfully so far.
    __________________________________________

    My overall conclusion from the many forum threads on this latest HP trauma indicates 5 things (apart from good grammar, uniqueness etc).

    1. Have all the boxes ticked in the "Need Some Goals" feature (in edit mode).

    2. Format for mobile view with all full-width photos and ads.

    3. Edit old hubs to keep them "fresh".

    4. Make sure your "latest activity" date is recent by participating.

    5.  Encourage reader engagement. People are lazy readers. Two tips to fully "engage" readers to get them to reach the end of a hub so they can rate and comment:

    a)  Alternate text with a non-text capsule (image, video, poll, map, related advert etc.) to brake up long text and lead readers onwards.

    b)  Keep the reader curious for more. End some text capsules with a promise/question/hint on what's coming next.

  5. LeanMan profile image82
    LeanManposted 2 years ago

    Just an update, I have a download of my stats from last year in September, so 11 months ago... I have not done any major changes, nor have I published since...

    But the average scores have jumped by +6pts, some hubs having increased their individual scores by +20 pts while a few have dropped by up to -10 pts.. The ones that have dropped do deserve it in my opinion as they are the shorter ones with less pictures, etc.. The ones that have risen have many capsules of different types and fall within the "stella" hub category.

    I was playing with my hubs a year ago to try to figure out why very similar hubs had very different scores which is why I have the download. Similar length hubs with the same number of videos, pictures, and other capsules would have very different scores even if traffic was similar - I gave up worrying about the scores as it is only the traffic from Google that really counts! But the scoring I could not figure out it seemed to be fairly random!! If I added capsules, sometimes the score would rise, sometimes drop - no sense!!

    The only thing I did notice was that groups would rise or fall at the same time. So one week all of my Saudi hubs would drop by 2-4pts each another week they would rise.. other groups would not change at all. It was as if groups were "audited" together and either given a boost or a kick...

    But the changes that were made at this time last year gave us a more stable hub and hubber score.

    This recent change would not be explained by traffic changes as my traffic is probably a fraction lower than it was last year but my performing hubs are still the same etc..

    Personally, I think something has changed even if they say it has not..... The difference is too great for it to be random!

  6. SmartAndFun profile image91
    SmartAndFunposted 2 years ago

    Do hub scores matter? I never look at mine. I just look at traffic and earnings. I couldn't tell you if my scores have risen or fallen. Should I be tracking this?

    1. Marisa Wright profile image93
      Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      No

 
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