I've just started to notice the MSN ads on my Hubs. Ok, I'm new and I miss stuff a lot but they didn't seem to be there before. Are these a source of income for Hubpages alone or do Hubbers get a slice of the action? If so how?
Hubpages is only showing the Microsoft Pubcenter ads in their percentage block. They are not only testing the ads, they are running Microsoft Pubcenter ads because they pay far better than Google AdSense does. I have 20 websites with Pubcenter on them and they are paying at least 20% more than my old Google AdSense had.
When Microsoft is finished with their beta program the ads should be available to smaller publishers.
I will never go back to Google. There are also some other advantages to using Microsoft but I will not get into that.
same thing i've asked to hubpages team through contact us form. they were showing three MSN ads and one my google ads. Its not fare.
Hope they will clarify this soon.
Hubpages has a 60% to a 40% split. That means for every one hundred views you get 60 of the visitors showing your Adsense, ebay, Kontera and Amazon links in place.
The other 40% are Hubpages views, that is they get the other 40 visitors out of the one hundred.
Its Hubpages site, they own it and with their 40% they show what ever they like, be it Yahoo or MSN ads.
Basically it is a typical membership site where the owner gets members that return an income for them.
By rule a referral traffic should be to the person who refers for 120 mins, but I find that here also MSN Ads are present ... what is the reason for that ?
This response needs clarification -- at least as I know it. You are correct that Hub Pages gets 40% of the AdSense impressions (or whatever ads they are showing there...) and the Hubber gets 40%. But the hubber gets 100% of the Amazon, Kontera and eBay ad impressions. There is no split.
Thats news to me - I was under the impression that hubs get 40% impressions of all affiliate partners
What makes you think otherwise, I would love for this to be true, but I really doubt it as then they would have no reason to offer those programs
Thx terryg for clarification. The thing that upsets me is that Hubpages MSN ads are pretty well targeted for my sites while my google ads are way off the mark. I might try yieldbuild although if google go full throttle on dart cookies that might be a waste of time and money.
This has been mentioned in the Forums before. the best thing to remember, is it's against Googles T&C's to have contextual ads from another company on the same page, and I don;t think Hubpages (Yieldbuilder) are going to risk getting blocked by Google (their major income) over a few MSN ads.
I'm 90% sure the MSN and Yahoo ads are coming from Google anyway. I don;t think Hubpages have accounts with. It would be too hard (and not really worth it) to set it up to do things differently with their traffic over ours.
Just to clarify, it's against ToS to have different contextual ad programs running on the same page at the same time.
I believe that HubPages Inc do have affiliate accounts with programs other than just Google Adsense. And they use their pageviews to see how well they perform.
Also in response to Will Apse, the performance of one ad program over another is outside of HubPage/YieldBuild's control. YieldBuild controls the size and location of the ad, not the content.
The Microsoft Pubcenter (MSN) ads only appear in the HubPages share of impressions, and they are allowed to be mixed with AdSense on the same page. It is a relatively new program from Microsoft, and they are not currently equipped to pay small publishers. So, unfortunately we can not offer it as an option for HubPages authors at this time.
Thanks for the clarification there Paul (re: being allowed on the same page at the same time as Adsense).
born to be free - that's really interesting. I hope they do roll it out to small publishers. It would be nice to have some genuine competition in the advertising market for publishers. At present Adsense is the only game in town because systems like Kontera etc arn't terribly good. Nice to see Microsoft coming back from the dead like this.
Hello Silver Rose. Myself, I do not even use Kontera. I ran several tests with and without using Kontera. At least for me, I found that the Kontera did nothing but take away from the clicks on my AdSense. Sure, we may get more clicks from Kontera than we do on Adsense, but I make a whole lot more money without using Kontera.
It may be some time before Microsoft perfects their ad system. They are having a big issue with matching ads with site content. Even with this problem I am still making more with them than I was with Google. I can't wait to see how much more it will be when they have perfected the ads.
thanks [BORN TO BE FREE] for the update on "Microsoft pubCenter Beta Program" Because I found their ads in my HubPages.
Further, right now "Microsoft pubCenter Beta Program" is available for US residents publishers. In that case, I am loose the revenue. Once out of BETA, will Microsoft pubCenter Beta Program will be available for non-USA resident publishers?
Yes it will be available for everyone when it comes out of beta, as they are planning to take the place of google.
Try reading about microsoft payments also. It has been reported that people are getting more revenue per click from microsoft. May be it is a trick to attract all publishers to them and later reduce the cpc when lot of publishers join them.
And many people have complained that a large portion of their revenues have been held up and only a partial amount paid out.
So it is good to read more about microsoft beta program from journals like tech crunch.
In Hubpages it is OK to display both Adsense and Msn ads.(Because Hubpages is a Giant Website whom both Adsense & MSN loves)
And Microsoft pubCenter Beta Program is being tested through Yield Build here.
It is better not to risk trying both adsense and msn ads in the same page in OUR OWN websites or blogs, because Google and Microsoft are Real hard Competitors.
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