Amazon and Ebay Sales Since Transfer: Have you actually had any?

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   sockiiposted 9 years ago

   Before the transfer I regularly saw at least 1-2, sometimes 5-6, Amazon sales from my top lenses daily. These were the first lenses I fixed up to bring to HubPages standards after the transfer and traffic-wise they are generally doing as well if not better than before.
   
   However, I have not seen a single sale come through on my earnings reports since I was transferred. Are those not updated daily? How long does it take before a sale shows up on our reports after someone buys it on Amazon? Is this a warning sign that Amazon (and eBay) sales are much harder to convert here than on Squidoo? Is it due to the problem of HP Amazon modules being so widely blocked by adblocking programs?
   
   I'm not talking about "shopping cart" lenshubs, either, but predominantly my painting tutorial articles which featured significant text, all my own original photos and artwork, and carefully selected products (the exact ones, generally, I used in the paintings I am illustrating.) I guess I just am curious to know more, because if I just can't expect them to generate any real sales, I may have to think more seriously about just moving them to my own art website...

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      Cheryl Rogersposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Have you had to take out direct text links to products to meet the new standards? Or reduce the number of products showcased on your Hub? That might have something to do with it. Maybe you can break the content into two Hubs?

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      Craftypicksposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Mine is a little down. I had sales 3-4 days this week, but sales are showing up on Squidoo. I am in a group there and many people are reporting it too. I had one sale that showed up and 4 days of traffic.

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   calendarsblogposted 9 years ago

   It generally takes amazon a few days (24 to 72 hours) to report this stuff - so I'm not surprised not to see any sales here yet.

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      sockiiposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      OK, I'll relax for a while then, and give it maybe a week to see if there's any sales traffic that starts showing up.
      
      (And yes, before anyone asks - I have made sure that Amazon and eBay earnings are enabled and approved - as soon as I set up this account I published some new hubs here to get the ball rolling on all of that before my lenses were transferred)

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         Paula Atwellposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Good question to ask though.

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   sockiiposted 9 years ago

   Just an update to say that I saw my first Amazon sale show up on transferred lenses today - yay! And with a nice rate of commission using the HP Amazon program. 
   
   Hopefully this is a sign of more good things to come!

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   calendarsblogposted 9 years ago

   I have had my first sale reported too. [actually - now - 4 sales].

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      neosurkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Congratulations to both of you guys! My lenses got transferred yesterday, so I'm looking forward to the magical sales.
      
      The reason behind the low number of sales may be due to it being credited on HubPages' code during those 40% of the time. Your Amazon and eBay is only shown 60% of the time, so if sales happen on HP's, it won't be shown. It was different with Squidoo when you used to get 50% of the amount and 100% of the sale (reports).
      
      Anyways, all the best to you, sockii! You deserve showers of sales everyday.

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   makingamarkposted 9 years ago

   I'm so glad you asked this question - I was staring at my Amazon reports page this morning with a very puzzled frown.
   
   A lag in reporting makes much more sense - I only got all my affiliate codings and links onto my main account yesterday so I guess I've got to wait a little while for the sales to filter through
   
   I'm just wondering what the reporting is like. I know I made very good use of the sales information personalised to each lens on Squidoo.
   
   It makes a big difference to conversions......

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      calendarsblogposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Reporting is by hub for eBay (haven't seen sales there yet, but eBay was always tricky and I never made many).
      
      For amazon the sales reporting is unfortunately account-wide. So you know what you sold - not all of it, some goes through the hubpage-id - but also not on which hub you sold it.

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         makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Oh dear - that's really not helpful!
         
         To make sales you need marketing data. To get marketing data you need to know which channel generated sales. If we don't get basic data we can't refine and improve conversion rates
         
         I used to regularly review data on Squidoo and swop products in and out e.g.
         * a product taking up an Amazon module didn't get to keep it if it didn't generate sales! 
         * Those which sold a lot would be moved higher because we were told that placement had an impact on sales
         
         etc etc etc........
         
         I thought one of the purposes of bringing the Squidoo Amazon module code across was to improve conversions of products listed to products sold...? 
         
         It takes a bit more than the code to make sales - you also have to look at behaviour of the audience and the product on an INDIVIDUAL lens/hub
         
         Also thinking about it - if we don't get 40% of the data, then we actually don't know enough about how well or not a hub is performing. I've no problem with HubPages getting their share of the money - I just want ALL the marketing data.
         
         I can see the lack of data being a major incentive to people to take Amazon to independent affiliate status.......

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            calendarsblogposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            I agree that the Squidoo system was more helpful in this respect. However, it won't help any to switch to your own amazon-id, because it will still be one amazon-id hubpage-account-wide.
            The only alternative is to take your content elsewhere and be super-scrupulous about creating an amazon-id per blogpost.

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   MyFairLadyah2posted 9 years ago

   Hi sockii, I got an amazon sale from a former lens, though I'm not sure if this will be a trend or a fluke. I'm still waiting for approval on HP eBay

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   makingamarkposted 9 years ago

   More likely multiple blogs than multiple blog posts!

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   Paula Atwellposted 9 years ago

   I think you guys transferred before me, so I will want to know this too. I don't use Adblocker, does it also block text links?

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      lisavollrathposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I use an ad blocker, and it does not block text links. However, if there are text links inside an ad block, like the Amazon capsule here on HubPages, it does block those.

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         Paula Atwellposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks. That was my supposition but didn't know.

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   paperfacetsposted 9 years ago

   I have 3 pending (ordered) from the sixth, but my Amazon account also shows 3 ordered on sixth.
   
   May be a fluke, but does the Amazon Hub Program work without being an Amazon affiliate like our old site?

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    David Stone1posted 9 years ago

    I got my first few on the third day. I'm still waiting for the fourth day report. Seems to be registering about the same way, with the same products, as Squidoo.

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    Paul Edmondsonposted 9 years ago

    We will give per hub amazon sales in the future.  We hope to start on it in the next few weeks.

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       Paula Atwellposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Terrific news!

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          jodijoyousposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Hooray!
          
          Will we also get click through data, so we can tell which links were clicked on to get the sale?

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             Paul Edmondsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

             I hope so.

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                jodijoyousposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Double hooray!

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                makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Brilliant!  Just the ticket!

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       Sarah Switalskiposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       That is fantastic! Thank you!

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       makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       That's really great news Paul - many thanks!

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       SusanDeppnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       That is excellent news! Thank you, Paul!

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       Linda BookLadyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Wonderful news! Thank you...

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       MyFairLadyah2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah! will you add the call-out capsule too?

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       pkmcrukposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       That will be incredibly helpful - thanks again Paul - very impressed with what you have done and are doing :-)

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       NateB11posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Good news, very glad to hear it!

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    ILoveLegosTooposted 9 years ago

    My hubs transferred on the 8th, and I saw an Amazon sale today around 5pm.  A little less anxious now with the first sale under my belt and some pennies from the ad program there as well.

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    gottaloveit2posted 9 years ago

    I'm still a bit confused (nothing new on this end). I was getting at least 5 sales a day on Squidoo. That stopped 7 days ago. I'm still getting Amazon Associate sales but what the heck happened to the sales that should have been from the Squidoo Amazon modules? My articles moved over last night - no sales again.

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       Paula Atwellposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       I believe there was a reporting bug on the Squidoo end. On this end, you need to wait a few days for it to catch up because the reporting is not instantaneous.

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    bobtyndallposted 9 years ago

    I would think that moving to hubs means you have to get new traffic. Any traffic that went to squido is no longer there. It will be a while before  hubs show up in the SERP's. At least that's my view.

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       jodijoyousposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       No, because there are redirects in place.  Any traffic to the lenses is being sent to hubpages instead.

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          bobtyndallposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Ok, I think I remember seeing that.

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    kislanykposted 9 years ago

    The delay in reporting worked for me as well - after 4 days of being here I finally got 4 Amazon sales credited to my account (thanks pkmcruk you were right...). Things should just improve from here on.
    
    Awesome regarding reporting sales per hub rather than account, can't wait for the change! Now if we got that AdBlock issue also out of the way as well (ok ok wishing for too much here...)

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