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it's Official - There's a PANDA rollout!

  1. misterhollywood profile image90
    misterhollywoodposted 2 years ago

    Everyone has been wondering why the numbers are so up and down with Hubs. Google JUST announced its latest Panda rollout. It's already begun!

    Here's the link to the Search Engine Land Article
    http://searchengineland.com/panda-update-rolling-204313
    http://s1.hubimg.com/u/11833820.jpg

  2. gitachud profile image88
    gitachudposted 2 years ago

    I had noticed a drop at the beginning of the week. My problem appears to be keyword density because when I reduced it, there was an immediate recovery.

    1. rebekahELLE profile image92
      rebekahELLEposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      An immediate recovery would not indicate a hit from Panda.  If a site gets penalized from a Panda update, it takes a while to recover, often not until the next update.

      1. gitachud profile image88
        gitachudposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks for the correction - probably was just a coincidence that it happened at the same time.

        1. Rhonda Lytle profile image86
          Rhonda Lytleposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          The older I get the less I believe in coincidence.  Let's take a step back and look at this from a longer perspective.  Over the last say two months, many content sharing sites have tanked, traffic is nuts, and now a new Panda update coincides with stats being down for over 24 hours.  These things are all connected and I would bet the bank there's an iceberg worth of stuff going on no one is talking about while the writers flap in the wind.  I'd bet that's purposeful too. 
          Someone looking to write the next best seller would start connecting all those little dots... I'm thinking I need better detective skills.

          1. Marisa Wright profile image93
            Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Surely the dots are already connected?

            It is a well-known fact that way back in 2011 when the first Panda was introduced, Google declared war on content farms.  Usually we have to guess what they're doing:  but they actually announced that one!   They also made it clear that their definition of content farms was far wider than ours:  it included all sites hosting articles on multiple subjects by multiple writers.  Google has never changed that stance, and has continued to tweak its algorithm to win the "war".   This is just the latest assault.

            Since all rev-sharing sites rely largely on Google for traffic, it's a wonder that many of them lasted as long as they did:  the writing on the wall has been there for a long time. 

            HubPages and Squidoo both attempted to avoid the war by splitting their sites into sub-domains, because Google judges each sub-domain separately.   That definitely worked on HubPages because when the sub-domains were introduced, some sub-domains became very successful whereas others bombed - demonstrating they were each receiving individual treatment from Google.   I can't speak for whether it worked for Squidoo.

            1. Rhonda Lytle profile image86
              Rhonda Lytleposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              I think it was working for some sub-domains on Squidoo and not others, much like here.  I was not aware they were going after all content sharing sites so hard but I do believe what you say.

              It brings many questions to mind that are all disturbing.  First and foremost from a HP perspective, it makes one seriously question the future viability of the site no matter what the site does.

              Secondly, and more concerning, it brings to mind the question of too much power.  It brings censorship to a whole new global level in a very subtle, yet real way.  While I found the information provided in your comment enlightening, it's depressing beyond measure.

              1. Marisa Wright profile image93
                Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                When you say it worked for some sub-domains on Squidoo and not for others, you're confirming what I say.  The sub-domains that did well were liked by Google.  The sub-domains that did not do well were disliked by Google, for whatever reason.

                http://mashable.com/2011/02/25/google-content-farms/

                1. Rhonda Lytle profile image86
                  Rhonda Lytleposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Thank you for the link, much.  It does confirm what you say but only to a point.  Some of those that were doing really well on Squidoo are not here.  What was liked by Google just a few weeks ago now is not.  Some have mentioned too many 301 redirects being the problem and maybe it is a contributing factor.  Regardless, a lot of good writers are seeing virtually no traffic, through no fault of their own and now left guessing at what to do about it to please some virtual computer algorithm.  What's wrong with this picture couldn't be covered in a five hundred page text.

                  1. Marisa Wright profile image93
                    Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    There have been TWO Google Panda updates since the transfer to HubPages was announced, and both or either of those could have affected Squidoo sub-domains just as much as HubPages sub-domains, either negatively or positively.

                    A sub-domain or website can go up and down in Google's estimation because they are constantly updating the algorithm to improve it (which just goes to show that they know it's imperfect).

                2. Writer Fox profile image80
                  Writer Foxposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Marisa, that article is from 2011.  It just isn't the case anymore.

                  Google's Matt Cutts:  "Subdomains are now treated just like folders (subdirectories)."

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MswMYk05tk

                  A new subdomain on HP is no more significant than a new folder on any other website, and this has been true at least since late 2012.

                  http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/125162? … ost2645025

                  1. Marisa Wright profile image93
                    Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    I used that post because I was replying to someone who said they hadn't heard of Google's war on content farms. Nothing to do with sub-domains.

                    As for how sub-domains are treated, I outline my view on that here:

                    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/125277? … ost2645231

  3. misterhollywood profile image90
    misterhollywoodposted 2 years ago

    Good catch! I'm gonna go through my hubs and review them all.

  4. colorfulone profile image86
    colorfuloneposted 2 years ago

    Sounds like a serious update.

  5. ecogranny profile image87
    ecogrannyposted 2 years ago

    Thanks for the link and the info.

  6. Suzanne Day profile image97
    Suzanne Dayposted 2 years ago

    MrHollywood, I like your enthusiam, but Marisa already beat you to it in this thread: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/125251

    and I said:

    It's like a relationship with Kung Fu Panda. It starts with fireworks, and then you get a little bang each year you are married wink

    1. Jayne Lancer profile image91
      Jayne Lancerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Misterhollywood was first 12 hours ago--Marisa 11 hours ago. Not that it matters. The main thing is, we now know what's going on.



      I'll wait for the dust to settle before tinkering with any of my hubs. I also need to know exactly what's 'wrong' before making any changes.

      1. Suzanne Day profile image97
        Suzanne Dayposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Hmmm I stand corrected!

        One thing Google always loves is long, original and creative content. If you are creating that, then keep going. If you are creating product hubs, wait for the dust to settle. Hoping all this will turn out OK for all of us wink

        1. Jayne Lancer profile image91
          Jayne Lancerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          As far as my hubs are concerned, I'm hoping it's just a question of holding tight and letting it pass. Time will tell.

          1. Suzanne Day profile image97
            Suzanne Dayposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            That's a good way to approach uncertainty here. Go away from the computer, have a mini holiday and come back when it's sorted itself out to whatever it ends up as.

        2. NateB11 profile image92
          NateB11posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          +1

          I posted this in the other Panda thread. It's about an older update, but I find it helpful. http://www.seochat.com/c/a/google-optim … whats-new/

        3. misterhollywood profile image90
          misterhollywoodposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          It's ok - smile

  7. firstday profile image60
    firstdayposted 2 years ago

    Thanks for posting in the forum misterhollywood.  I am new to the game.

  8. Beaddoodler profile image79
    Beaddoodlerposted 2 years ago

    Thanks for the heads up.  Too bad the article is vague on just how the filter effects thin or poorly written articles.

  9. cfin profile image74
    cfinposted 2 years ago

    Down in the dumps again sad But hey, at least it's Friday! smile

  10. David Stone profile image77
    David Stoneposted 2 years ago

    Thanks for the post. We just keep learning what we need to do to respond to Google's perception of what searchers want. These updates may be a little frustrating but consider an internet overpowered by spammers and black hat operators. I appreciate Google's policing of content.

  11. dougwest1 profile image92
    dougwest1posted 2 years ago

    Someone please let us know what impact this google change will have on our hub traffic and how to compensate. Something is always changing!

  12. I Ramjohn profile image80
    I Ramjohnposted 2 years ago

    "a filter designed to penalize “thin” or poor content from ranking well"

    Does that mean eHow will now disappear from the first page of my search results? Please? smile

  13. dougwest1 profile image92
    dougwest1posted 2 years ago

    I hope that master google will still send a few readers our way. I like writing, but it is really nice when someone reads the Hub.

  14. tameka carodine profile image57
    tameka carodineposted 2 years ago

    What is a Google panda rollout mean

    1. misterhollywood profile image90
      misterhollywoodposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      It means I'm buying some antacids, smile

      1. colorfulone profile image86
        colorfuloneposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        If you find one that works well, let the whole world know.  smile

        1. misterhollywood profile image90
          misterhollywoodposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          oMG that was funny. I'm still looking!

  15. Heidi Vincent profile image78
    Heidi Vincentposted 2 years ago

    Thanks for sharing this, misterhollywood.

    1. Rhonda Lytle profile image86
      Rhonda Lytleposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      It's good to finally see you here!  I've missed your writing, Heidi.

  16. Mark Ewbie profile image82
    Mark Ewbieposted 2 years ago

    http://s1.hubimg.com/u/11838010_f1024.jpg

    1. firstday profile image60
      firstdayposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Mark Ewbie
      Thank goodness you are here to see us through this time.  LOL

      1. firstday profile image60
        firstdayposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Your drawings always capture the moment and make it fun.

    2. Writer Fox profile image80
      Writer Foxposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Is that a Kitchenaid mixer?

    3. misterhollywood profile image90
      misterhollywoodposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I love this picture!!

  17. rebekahELLE profile image92
    rebekahELLEposted 2 years ago

    big_smile  Mark.  How about one with a Panda?

  18. Arachnea profile image83
    Arachneaposted 2 years ago

    Thanks for the link. I'll have to have a look see at the content I have posted already.

 
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