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Time for HP to Apply its Own High Standards for Own Intermal Programs

  1. janderson99 profile image84
    janderson99posted 21 months ago

    Running spelling and grammar tools, and plagiarism checks, on the three Hubpro examples in the recent blog [ http://blog.hubpages.com/2015/03/23/hub … -makeover]  highlighted errors in all of them. http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/129533#post2719123

    Similarly the latest Editors Choice Award contains 2 spelling errors
    "thecharacterization"; "toneof" and a number of grammatical errors.

    I suggest it is time for HP to lift its game, and do what it asks authors to do - set the highest standard. All it takes is to use simple cheap software tools to do the checks. IMO

    This especially applies for Hubpro which is meant to showcase to Google glowing perfection in quality to defeat Panda slaps. Errors defeat this purpose.

    ECs are meant to be the best of the best and get assigned glowing labels and endorsement in related hubs, topics, etc.

    1. psycheskinner profile image82
      psycheskinnerposted 21 months ago in reply to this

      Okay so wait a minute, number three overlaps heavily with http://scmomentum.com/50-ways-to-show-m … thers-day/  (May, 2014)

      Was that just not detected, or was that actually added by the editor?

      Plagiarism is serious stuff and duplicate content is surely something a "HubPro" looks for?.

  2. Shades-of-truth profile image87
    Shades-of-truthposted 21 months ago

    Hear, hear!

  3. Robin profile image
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    Robinposted 21 months ago

    We work really hard to have the highest standards especially for Hubpro and EC. However, we are human and mistakes do get through.  Even the best of us make mistakes (take the title of your forum post for example has a simple typo that I'm sure you missed even after reading it multiple times.)  smile 

    I appreciate your sentiment, and we are working hard on improving our game.  Another thing to keep in mind is that sometimes Hubbers go back and add content or change the work that we have edited, so you can't always be sure that the changes made were by an editor.  I'm not saying we don't make mistakes, but we have had a lot of Hubbers edit their Hubs after our HubPro editor and added grammatical/spelling/style errors.  Like I said, I do appreciate the feedback.  You are right, we all need to up our game!  smile

    1. paradigm search profile image79
      paradigm searchposted 21 months ago in reply to this

      Could you tell me more about HP's intermal programs? I missed the blog post on that one.

      1. colorfulone profile image85
        colorfuloneposted 21 months ago in reply to this

        +1

    2. janderson99 profile image84
      janderson99posted 21 months ago in reply to this

      @Robin, Thanks for your response. Glad you picked up my inserted m&m 'typos'!  It is not so hard! I agree we all need to work hard to strive for the best that it can be. I use SpellCheckPlus(dot) and there are many similar software tools. I still think that HP should get the APIs for some of these packages, and develop automatic tools that check for spelling, grammar and copied content. This would be very helpful for everyone and the site overall! It is odd that HP does not even have a spellchecker on the site after 8+ years. Cheers

      1. paradigm search profile image79
        paradigm searchposted 21 months ago in reply to this

        I missed it, too, until I saw Robin's post. She has a sharp eye. lol

      2. Robin profile image
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        Robinposted 21 months ago in reply to this

        I think it's great you use other software for grammar and spelling.  We do have a spell checker in the Text Capsule, but it would be nice to have a grammar checker on HubPages.  We have looked into it in the past, and I will bring it up again.  Thanks for the feedback.  smile

        1. janderson99 profile image84
          janderson99posted 21 months ago in reply to this

          The external tools produce reports that list spelling and grammar errors as well as highlighting them in the text entered. This is very useful, especially when finalising an article or a section.

          http://www.wotheheck.com/sperror.jpg

    3. csmiravite-blogs profile image85
      csmiravite-blogsposted 21 months ago in reply to this

      Yep, we click publish and to our horror, we see errors! We edit, then we see again --- errors. It's a never ending battle with errors! But come to think of it, I sometimes see well written hubs with a soul in it, though with a number of spelling and grammatical errors. Some hubs can be so perfect, but it's like entering into a hollowed hall with no living thing in it. I'd rather read the former.  smile

      1. Robin profile image
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        Robinposted 21 months ago in reply to this

        I agree!  Thanks for pointing this out.  The holy grail is for a Hub to have soul and be well written—a hard thing to do!  smile

    4. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image94
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 21 months ago in reply to this

      I kind of like the word "intermal"!!  Just think, we now have a new word for the English language!

      Years ago I was teaching a class of advanced 7th graders and told them to make up a word that only the class would know the meaning of, but to use it liberally.  We had such a good time with that lesson!

      The word was "Gefungasblatt".  Any guess as to what it meant?

  4. sockii profile image90
    sockiiposted 21 months ago

    Snarking over a spelling mistake in a forum post versus errors in actual hubs.

    Yeah. That gives me so much faith in management at the moment.

    1. Robin profile image
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      Robinposted 21 months ago in reply to this

      I wasn't being snarky—just playing around!  I think janderson knew I was kidding.  smile

    2. relache profile image86
      relacheposted 21 months ago in reply to this

      ...throws hat in this ring...

  5. calculus-geometry profile image85
    calculus-geometryposted 21 months ago

    Suggestion: make HP's native spell check run automatically when you save a draft. The spelling errors could be highlighted and noted in the yellow warning box that appears on the side in draft mode, similar to the way broken links are highlighted.

    I know it won't result in everyone writing perfect typo-free hubs, but it might slightly improve quality site-wide if people pay attention to that sort of thing.  I know it would help me.

  6. Shades-of-truth profile image87
    Shades-of-truthposted 21 months ago

    I check my text when I am in edit mode, and the red underlines have always been helpful. If a word I am using which is a legitimate word, is underlined, I simply right-click and click on "add to dictionary". That seems to word just fine.

    Unfortunately, it does not catch things like "hear" and "here", or "to", "too", or "two", but my brain usually does.

    I am grateful for that feature, as it has caught a few things that I missed.

  7. Sue Adams profile image94
    Sue Adamsposted 21 months ago

    @ janderson99
    Your little spello proves your point for the necessity of your suggestions. Are you sure you didn't do it on purpose?

    @ TIMETRAVELER2
    Gefungasblatt... Hhmm...A leaf of fungus?
    Or ... The gasboard's magazine?
    What was it?

    1. janderson99 profile image84
      janderson99posted 21 months ago in reply to this

      Yes I did it on purpose. It Worked a Treat!

    2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image94
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 21 months ago in reply to this

      I'll give you a hint by putting the word in a sentence:

      We are all looking forward to the day when Gefungasblatt arrives.

 
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