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Anyone else noticing a drop in traffic?

  1. vocalcoach profile image94
    vocalcoachposted 18 months ago

    I've been noticing quite a drop in traffic the past 2 days.  Is it just me?

    1. ChitrangadaSharan profile image85
      ChitrangadaSharanposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      Same here! Too many blue arrows!

    2. MelRootsNWrites profile image89
      MelRootsNWritesposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      Mine dropped at the beginning of last week, which seemed to coincide with whatever Google did to drop the site traffic.  However, since Thursday my numbers have been perking up and today looks good.

      I wonder if the NBA and NHL playoffs might be playing into some of the drop in traffic.

      1. Solaras profile image92
        Solarasposted 18 months ago in reply to this

        Also AMC was playing a Mad Men marathon for 3 days leading up to the finale. That's where all of my extra time and attention went from Friday AM to Sunday evening lol.

    3. bravewarrior profile image95
      bravewarriorposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      Yep, I just checked. Stats are stalled again, too.

      1. vocalcoach profile image94
        vocalcoachposted 18 months ago in reply to this

        Okay.  Thanks Sha.

        1. bravewarrior profile image95
          bravewarriorposted 18 months ago in reply to this

          Read this article. It specifically addresses the drop in traffic on HP and why it's happened.

          http://www.cnbc.com/id/102669423

          1. Jodah profile image86
            Jodahposted 18 months ago in reply to this

            Thanks for sharing this Shauna, that's a very interesting read. Worrying though.

          2. Solaras profile image92
            Solarasposted 18 months ago in reply to this

            WTF "Where Google used to drive traffic to other sites, it's now keeping people on its own properties, even though the information being displayed comes from other sources. The egg frying instructions, for example, are from foodnetwork.com."

            How does this help the author of an article if Google slurps up their info on to their own property. Are they paying foodnetwork for this?

    4. eugbug profile image94
      eugbugposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      I noticed a drop on Monday which is usually a busy day for traffic (why is this?).
      Has anyone noticed a jump in earnings in the last few dates despite lower views? Maybe this has something to do with the "new ad partners"?

    5. Saphyaire profile image61
      Saphyaireposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      I am new here, but I noticed a sudden drop too,  I was thinking to write science article to promote my YouTube channel, but submitting original science journal topic to low traffic site, not a good idea

    6. peachpurple profile image79
      peachpurpleposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      mine dropped a lot. from 150 to 77! What in the world in going on ? ANway, it had picked up today.

      1. vocalcoach profile image94
        vocalcoachposted 18 months ago in reply to this

        Yes, my traffic is also on the rise.

        1. Jayne Lancer profile image91
          Jayne Lancerposted 18 months ago in reply to this

          Mine was on the rise on Saturday, but dropped again on Sunday.

  2. alikhan3 profile image91
    alikhan3posted 18 months ago

    Yes I have also noticed around 40% drop in traffic these days ....... Its going up and down since the last month.

  3. Chriswillman90 profile image92
    Chriswillman90posted 18 months ago

    Well I now have no traffic at all, which hasn't happened since I joined this site. It really just sucks up any motivation to write here at all.

    1. WAHmom profile image85
      WAHmomposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      I agree; and the hubs' score are no longer ranked from highest to lowest....example: 79, 55, 53, 60, 74, 65...why is this so? It's like a scatterbrain's idea.

  4. Neha Sadana profile image83
    Neha Sadanaposted 18 months ago

    yes, severe drop in traffic with lots of blue arrows ...

  5. Daughter Of Maat profile image98
    Daughter Of Maatposted 18 months ago

    I've noticed about a 50% drop in traffic. I haven't seen my traffic this low since I started here. Did Google change their algorithm again??

  6. FatFreddysCat profile image93
    FatFreddysCatposted 18 months ago

    The past month has been one long, slow, continuous traffic drop. Ugh.

  7. DrMark1961 profile image90
    DrMark1961posted 18 months ago

    According to this thread- http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/130535 -almost everyone lost 20%. Not sure why yours would be down 50.

  8. Jayne Lancer profile image91
    Jayne Lancerposted 18 months ago

    I've seen a traffic drop of about 40% over the past three weeks. It's a mess. I hadn't even recovered from the Panda update of last September. Worse still, I'm seeing low quality (thin content) hubs that are written in fractured English beating mine in the serps. I'm livid.

    1. colorfulone profile image88
      colorfuloneposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      Those lower quality hubs might be published by newer Hubbers, who get a little hub boost when they are first starting out so they do not get discouraged right off.

      1. Jayne Lancer profile image91
        Jayne Lancerposted 18 months ago in reply to this

        These are established accounts. I've reported them, but HubPages does nothing. I guess it's because they're making money. One hub is not only in fractured English with thin content, it also has pixelated images.

        1. colorfulone profile image88
          colorfuloneposted 18 months ago in reply to this

          Oh dear!

      2. WAHmom profile image85
        WAHmomposted 18 months ago in reply to this

        Really? Hubpages wants to please new hubbers even if means sacrificing quality? Well,yeah....they are not big about writing quality. I see hubs that are poorly written but they are accepted. Sometimes I wonder why the editors don't correct the errors at all! HP has really gone down the drain.

  9. ChristinS profile image93
    ChristinSposted 18 months ago

    Are any of you looking at your Google Analytics as well or are you only going by the stats here?  the stats here are regularly glitchy and incorrect, particularly over the weekend.  My stats here are very low, but my analytics showed higher traffic.  Of course, it's been dropping a bit too - but it's not as dire as the stats here make it look.

    1. janshares profile image87
      jansharesposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      True. The sharp decline started last night and I immediately checked GA. My stats were off by more than half. They seem to be stabilizing now and on the increase.

    2. Jayne Lancer profile image91
      Jayne Lancerposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      HP stats are so off, I hardly take any notice of them nowadays, apart from checking for copied content, unfeatured hubs etc.

  10. steve8miller profile image86
    steve8millerposted 18 months ago

    Yep I noticed.

  11. Jodah profile image86
    Jodahposted 18 months ago

    Yes, down down down..all blue arrows.

  12. Rafiq23 profile image86
    Rafiq23posted 18 months ago

    Yea. Mine has fallen drastically.

  13. Cardia profile image90
    Cardiaposted 18 months ago

    I've also noticed a drop as well in my views. Not sure of the percentage, but definitely a lot of those little blue arrows! Hopefully it's just a bad patch.

  14. PaulGoodman67 profile image91
    PaulGoodman67posted 18 months ago

    My traffic is bouncing back up today...

    1. Susana S profile image92
      Susana Sposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      Same here. I'm back to normal.

      1. PaulGoodman67 profile image91
        PaulGoodman67posted 18 months ago in reply to this

        Last week my have been some sort of trial precluding a proper algo update.  Or maybe Paul E's stern email to Google worked...  big_smile

        1. colorfulone profile image88
          colorfuloneposted 18 months ago in reply to this

          I was wondering the same thing.
          Whatever it is I am seeing some improvement.

  15. Kierstin Gunsberg profile image98
    Kierstin Gunsbergposted 18 months ago

    Not drastically. For the most part traffic is status quo for me, though it's certainly not rising. This time of year I feel like my hubs that are directly related to travel or summer holidays do the very best.

  16. janderson99 profile image83
    janderson99posted 18 months ago

    Looks like the 20% universal drop in Traffic Quota for HP is now locked in.

    http://www.wotisnew.com/ustats.jpg

    1. Writer Fox profile image80
      Writer Foxposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      What happened has nothing to do with a 'quota.'  What happened is that Google has further refined its algorithm and has, once again, targeted low-quality pages on HP.  As many of us have stated over and over again on this forum, there are still too many low-quality Hubs on the site.  More of those low-quality pages took a hit from Google this time around. http://searchengineland.com/the-quality … -up-221118

      1. janderson99 profile image83
        janderson99posted 18 months ago in reply to this

        An old debate but
        "once again, [Google] targeted low-quality pages on HP" does not marry with Paul E's findings that the 22% drop applied universally to pages of all qualities, shapes and sizes (the Good, Bad and Ugly - all dropped). "This Update isn't About Quality at the Page Level ........This means Google applied a site-wide ranking factor that ignores quality and subdomains" See: http://pauledmondson.hubpages.com/hub/M … gle-Update

        Google applied a penalty to HP (rich snippets abuse, thin pages, manual penalties, etc), which effectively amounts to a Quota or share adjustment. Why else is the traffic so consistent over many months despite all the changes that were made?

        I call it a Quota, it looks like a Quota, the traffic behaves like there is a Quota - call it what you will.

        I believe that Google has a quota for all sites which is manipulated after Panda and core algo changes to share the traffic the way it wants (a universal ranking penalty adjustment). Radical perchange, but it explains what is happening

        1. Writer Fox profile image80
          Writer Foxposted 18 months ago in reply to this

          In that article, Paul E. was just looking at traffic numbers for May 3.  When you look at the average traffic from April 19 – April 30 and compare it to the average May 6 – May 18, HP traffic went down by about 11.7%.  Not every Hub lost traffic and some Hubs gained traffic.  My most-trafficked Hubs did not lose their ranking positions on Google.

          Paul E. also stated that the change Google made in ranking "ignores quality" on HP.  That's not what Google stated in the link I posted.  But HP's definition of a quality Hub has never matched Google's definition. This is why you find Hubs with high traffic sent from Google but with very low Hub Scores. 

          And this was not a Google-applied "penalty to HP."  This algorithm adjustment was for the purpose of ranking webpages on search results pages.  Hubs that lost rankings on Google's SERPs were evaluated as lesser quality answers for a given search query.

          It's no surprise that the HubPro-edited Hubs lost traffic because the editors do not consider the effects of their edits on SEO and they are tampering with things they do not understand. The edited Hubs I've looked at have had many new photos added without proper Alt tags, which is a violation of Google's Webmaster Guidelines. The Editor's Choice designation never had any correlation with Google search rankings and the Google algorithm never selected those as the best Hubs on this site. 

          Google does not seek to "share traffic" but, rather, to deliver the best answer for a given search query.

          1. janderson99 profile image83
            janderson99posted 18 months ago in reply to this

            Beg to differ. Cheers!

      2. Jodah profile image86
        Jodahposted 18 months ago in reply to this

        If they targetted low quality pages, Writer Fox, why did all my hubs with scores in the 90s get hit (I had six two weeks ago now none) and all my lower hubs stay virtually the same? Ok, I have just read your second post..that explains it somewhat. Google and HP's version of quality is different.

        1. PaulGoodman67 profile image91
          PaulGoodman67posted 18 months ago in reply to this

          Nobody really quite knows what Google's definition of quality is, they deliberately use slightly vague language and never give any practical examples - supposedly because they don't want to help people game the system.

          1. Writer Fox profile image80
            Writer Foxposted 18 months ago in reply to this
            1. PaulGoodman67 profile image91
              PaulGoodman67posted 18 months ago in reply to this

              I don't think either of those articles from 2011 and 2012 conflict with the thrust of what I said.

              If you think that statements of intent, such as: "Does the article describe both sides of a story?", or "Would you expect to see this article in a printed magazine, encyclopedia or book?" are exact, and not open to multiple interpretations, then that is your prerogative.  smile

              1. PaulGoodman67 profile image91
                PaulGoodman67posted 18 months ago in reply to this

                Is the Google algo, a mathematical equation, capable of assessing a hub according to those two questions?  I would say no. 

                It would be virtually impossible to get two humans to agree, so a freaking computer algorithm, which doesn't understand concepts of value, morality, etc. has no chance  smile

                Google often puts out "statements of intent", but in some ways, one could view them as propaganda tools, as they often bear scant resemblance to the reality on the ground.

  17. paradigm search profile image81
    paradigm searchposted 18 months ago

    Monday traffic less than Sunday traffic. That never happens. Until now.

    edit: actually I'll have to take that half back. Only happened with US traffic. Global was indeed a tad more.

  18. Fiction Teller profile image60
    Fiction Tellerposted 18 months ago
    1. paradigm search profile image81
      paradigm searchposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      Well, that is that!

      My main website has gained traffic. My main HP subdomain has lost traffic. I'm going to chew on that for awhile...

  19. paradigm search profile image81
    paradigm searchposted 18 months ago

    Excerpted from Google Support, "Engaging: Bring color and life to your site by adding images of your products, your team, or yourself. Make sure visitors are not distracted by spelling, stylistic, and factual errors. An excessive amount of ads can also be distracting for visitors. Engage visitors by interacting with them through regular updates, comment boxes, or social media widgets."

    Maybe now is the time to get rid of those Sponsored Links? That's 5 ads right there. And if you follow any of those links, you are met with a solid wall of ads. Google has really got to hate that... And besides, we don't get paid for those anyway.

    1. Barbara Kay profile image84
      Barbara Kayposted 18 months ago in reply to this

      paradigm, I've thought that for a long time. Our hubs look spammy with all those.

      1. Solaras profile image92
        Solarasposted 18 months ago in reply to this

        They look even more spammy on mobile devices.

        I have had to move images to less than optimal places in the article and delete polls just to keep the reader from running into bock after block of ad, image, poll with no  relevant text in between. The mobile screen ads are often huge and junky looking; in some instances it looks like the article ended abruptly.

    2. janderson99 profile image83
      janderson99posted 18 months ago in reply to this

      Hey Paradigm the related search ads are kapput! - Someone heard you. Great news after 2 years of pleading!

  20. sunilkunnoth2012 profile image74
    sunilkunnoth2012posted 18 months ago

    For me traffic and earnings showing a very negative trend. I am more upset on the sharp fall in earnings. Last month i couln't earn even 10 $. Things are in a bad shape here and clueless how to address these negative trend.

  21. Valerie P Davis profile image83
    Valerie P Davisposted 18 months ago

    Pinterest started selling pin placements last week--simultaneously my Pinterest traffic dropped to about a third. It's going to be even harder now to get traffic without paying for it.

  22. Zhivko Stanev profile image82
    Zhivko Stanevposted 18 months ago

    Blue arrows here... No idea what could have caused it though.

  23. Lee Hansen profile image82
    Lee Hansenposted 18 months ago

    And then there's this to consider ... it could get better. Or worse. http://searchengineland.com/google-we-a … ter-221331

 
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