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How many Old Hubs remain un-QAP-ed? How is HP addressing this?

  1. janderson99 profile image85
    janderson99posted 2 years ago

    While HP has developed a system for testing the quality of NEW hubs via QAP, the question remains whether old-poor quality hubs that have not been fully QAP tested may stop a Panda reprieve. Paul E has outlined the strategy for Panda 5. [http://pauledmondson.hubpages.com/hub/In-Anticipation-of-Panda-5] However, it appears that not all of the old hubs have been fully assessed via QAP. Similarly, in the past some new hubs slipped through, without proper assessment on weekends or at other times. Will this frustrate efforts to convince Google that HP is a high quality site and to remove the scourge of Panda penalties? Is there a solution to this?

  2. Paul Edmondson profile image
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    Paul Edmondsonposted 2 years ago

    We are working to get through the backlog (featured hubs).  We are going to have to use a combination of human review and technology to make it feasible.

    Today, the first part of the QAP does a pretty good job on new Hubs.  Some stuff does slip through.  Most of that becomes defeatured for traffic pretty quickly.

    For content that get's a decent amount of traffic will likely get a human editor assigned.  The editors add signifiant polish.  Like I mentioned, about 30% of search views have been through HubPro.  That's substantial.  I'd like us to get to about 60% of search traffic through HubPro.

    The hole is stuff that gets enough traffic to remain featured, but not enough to get a human editor.  This bucket we will have to use a combination of technology and human review. 

    Right now, we are removing about 15K more Hubs than we are adding.  Our quality metrics are inching up.  At some point I feel like we have to cross a quality threshold and see a nice traffic bump!

    1. janderson99 profile image85
      janderson99posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks for the update Paul. That answered many questions about the approach. Cheers and Best Wishes.

    2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I believe you said that to get a human editor a hub must have quite a large number of daily views.  Can't remember the exact number, but it certainly was far higher than what I get, despite the fact that I get decent views on many articles and make money here.

      Why not open Hub Pro more realistically? For example, my best article has 56,000 views, but it does not qualify due to the monthly view limits.

      That does not seem right or fair to me because as with all other writers here, I want to do better.  I have not signed up for HubPro for this reason, and will not do so until you set a more reasonable page view limit.

    3. colorfulone profile image88
      colorfuloneposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you for letting us know that. Paul.

  3. Paul Edmondson profile image
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    Paul Edmondsonposted 2 years ago

    I'd recommend staying in HubPro because things can change and you may find yourself eligible, plus we are always looking at other services to helop Hubbers and we may use your hubpro setting to include you in a beta:)

  4. janderson99 profile image85
    janderson99posted 2 years ago

    Of course, the question is whether Google will keep penalising HP via Panda due to the large number of low quality, low traffic hubs that remain on the site. Despite their low traffic counts, there are many thousands of them. It is hard to understand how Google will judge the overall quality of the site and whether HubPro makes a real difference in Panda's eyes even for 50-60% of the traffic.

    1. integrater profile image59
      integraterposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      You mean low quality hub, don't you ? There is a huge difference between low quality and low traffic hubs. Can you please direct me to a website or a quote that says google panda is targeting low traffic content?
      I would really appreciate it .
      Thank you .

      1. janderson99 profile image85
        janderson99posted 2 years ago in reply to this
        1. integrater profile image59
          integraterposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you for that Forbes link. I went through that article but there is no mention of google panda targetting low traffic content. The buzzword seems to be quality and that is understandable. If Hubpages or some other site is offloading low traffic content there should not be a problem but I have never read anywhere that Google has any guidelines regarding low traffic content , whatever thay have is about low quality content.

          1. janderson99 profile image85
            janderson99posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            HP unfeatures (de-indexes) pages that get low traffic based on the argument that Google does not like them and so sends no traffic to them. I disagree with this concept, which is a rough and crude way a dumping "poor quality" pages. I personally believe that HP should have focused on getting rid of ALL of the bad pages on the site FIRST, before Hubpro, but time will tell if their plan works (Panda redemption). Panda is a page based penalty, and a few bad 'apples' can taint the entire barrel. HP is gradually working on the backload of un-QAP-ed pages. Time will tell if the bad apples count despite improving the high traffic hubs to lift the average quality rating of the site. Hopefully Google will look at average quality rather than the worst bunch on the vine. Sadly I think not.

  5. Virginia Allain profile image65
    Virginia Allainposted 2 years ago

    I originally opted out of Hub Pro, as I wanted to rework my former Squidoo lenses into hubs myself. Now I'm wishing I'd given Hub Pro a chance, but don't know how to opt back in.

    1. paradigm search profile image61
      paradigm searchposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      http://hubpages.com/my/profile/profile Then select Account Settings on the submenu and answer the security question.

 
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