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How to get out of the basement with hubpages

  1. Holly22 profile image89
    Holly22posted 16 months ago

    So now I have been with hubpages nine months. My collection of hubs has risen from 30 with squidoo to well over 50. All of my articles are up to hub standard and new hubs I always use hub guidelines. Upon conversion my 30 hubs earned 23 cents a day, now my 55 hubs earn me 6 or 8 cents a day. I know there have been google changes but even so, I cannot see for the life of me why the earnings are so poor. I do not expect a large income like hubbers who spend a lot of hours doing lots of things. But 8 cents a day is pretty abysmal. I have asked for feedback before and the changes I made have little impact. I will continue but more because I like writing not for any hope of pecuniary compensation. All I was hoping was maybe $1 a day by now but I suppose once stuck in the basement there is little you can do.

    1. Matthew Meyer profile image78
      Matthew Meyerposted 16 months ago in reply to this

      The main thing to understand about earnings is that it is based on impressions.

      Most visitors come from search and the vast majority of those search visitors come from Google searches.
      So the best way to get traffic for your Hubs is to do SEO research before you start writing.

      The primary point to understand about SEO is that you want to be competitive.
      If you do this sort of SEO research before you create a Hub, then you can get an idea of how your Hub may fair in the search results.

      The best strategy to work toward more traffic and earnings is to continue to write high quality Hubs.
      The more Hubs you have, generally the more opportunity you have to find readers and earn.

    2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image94
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 16 months ago in reply to this

      First:  It's against the TOS at HP to reveal your earnings.  You can be banned for doing this.

      Second:  30 to 50 articles, unless extremely well written on highly desirable topics will not bring in views or money.

      Third:  Are you doing key word research and using some SEO?  This is extremely important.  You want to write on topics for which people search rather than topics you simply want to write about.

      I know it is disheartening to work hard for so long and make so little, but earning takes time, and sometimes people simply do not make any real money here.

      Why not take some time and play around with the Google Adword/Keywords chart to get some idea about what people are searching for.  Then go online and search Google for that topic to see how many articles are already written about it and who is writing them.

      If competition is mostly just other writers, go for it.  If it's big names, forget it!  Nobody will ever find your work!

      Good luck.

      1. Holly22 profile image89
        Holly22posted 16 months ago in reply to this

        Yikes I had no idea about not quoting earnings. Can I delete my post. 1000 apologies

    3. Holly22 profile image89
      Holly22posted 16 months ago in reply to this

      Sorry to anyone reading this. I have been a fool. I did not realise I should not reveal earnings. If anyone knows jow to delete I eould like to do so

      1. Jason Marovich profile image88
        Jason Marovichposted 16 months ago in reply to this
      2. chasmac profile image100
        chasmacposted 16 months ago in reply to this

        Don't worry - It's the earnings "rate" that's the big nono - i.e., how much you're being paid per view (or per thousand views). If you had also mentioned the number of views you'd been getting, that would be indirectly revealing your approximate rate. Hubbers sometimes mention money earned in general terms such as making their first dollar or first payout, but not the payment rate. Those would  be deleted - the posts I mean - not the Hubbers (I hope).

  2. janshares profile image88
    jansharesposted 16 months ago

    It takes a while to see substantial earnings, Holly2. Each hubber experience is different but I will tell you I collected pennies a day for months before I received a payout my 9th month. It was also much easier 1-1/2 years ago to make better earnings and reach a dollar a day. Not so anymore for some of us. I believe earnings are down across the board. I encourage you to have patience until things cycle out and hopefully get better. You also need more articles to increase your chances of getting more earnings. Good advice from Matthew Meyer.

    1. Holly22 profile image89
      Holly22posted 16 months ago in reply to this

      I want to thank Matthew and Jan for your response. I will take it all in and yes Jan, I will definitely continue. Thank you.

  3. tlcs profile image78
    tlcsposted 16 months ago

    Good advice timetraveler2

  4. SmartAndFun profile image92
    SmartAndFunposted 16 months ago

    Sad to say, but I think some of your topics might be too high-brow for much of the general population who want to learn how to get a bigger butt or find out Justin Bieber's secret cell phone number.

    On the other hand, building a niche for yourself is very smart. How are your more intellectual topics doing views-wise? If they're not doing well, do some keyword research and try adding in keywords, as others have suggested, and perhaps consider adding a few more articles that would appeal to a wider audience (but don't abandon your niche, especially if it is your passion and specialty).

    Also, be sure to give your articles names which are what someone might type into a search engine if they are looking for the information you are providing. Some of your titles are spot-on but others are a bit iffy.

    Are you on straight AdSense? If so, try switching over to HP ads. I tend to make more $ with that and I believe many others have the same experience.

    I have heard eBay isn't all that great either, but wasn't it recently overhauled? Maybe people are earning more with eBay now. I do OK with Amazon but have never tried eBay as I had always heard it was not worth it. That may have changed now, though.

    1. Holly22 profile image89
      Holly22posted 16 months ago in reply to this

      Well now I think I have some quality feedback. I think I will follow the niche route and try to develop a following through keywords as suggested. I cannot write about Bieber. Again, I feel awful about the earnings goof and have learned my lesson. Thanks to everyone. Onward hubbers.....

      1. SmartAndFun profile image92
        SmartAndFunposted 16 months ago in reply to this

        I do think you have some articles with wide appeal, such as those about JK Rowling, pirate costume ideas, model trains, the chutney recipe, etc. Keep writing on those types of topics as well as your history niche, and hopefully your views on both types of hubs will rise.